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bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote:
The whole USA's gonna be after Democrats in November 2022.
RENO, Nev. — Republican voters in Nevada were aware Tuesday that
the Jan. 6 committee was building a public case that Donald
Trump knew the election wasn’t stolen.
They saw some of the committee’s new video footage of violence
at the Capitol on Jan. 6.
“Reprehensible,” said one voter.
“Disgusting,” said a second.
“It has everybody angry,” said a third.
It wasn’t the noose hanging outside the Capitol that upset them,
the chants of “hang Mike Pence” or the testimony of the
president’s former attorney general.
Instead, it was “Washington politicians” and “the media
establishment,” several voters interviewed said, who they saw as
trying to stack the deck against the former president.
“It might as well be impeachment No. 3 for Donald Trump,” said
Judy Cameron, a Reno retiree who had just voted in Nevada’s
Republican primaries on Tuesday with her husband. “This is their
big push to get Donald Trump off the ballot.”
NBC News talked to more than two dozen voters in both Washoe and
Clark counties — the two most populous in Nevada — and found
that the Jan. 6 committee hearings that captivated Washington
not only failed to persuade these voters but pushed them in the
opposite direction.
Among this sampling of Republicans, including in Washoe, the
swingiest county in one of the nation’s swingiest states, it has
hardened partisan views, spawned more conspiracies or deepened
fealty toward Trump.
Though a limited snapshot, the unpersuaded voters underscore the
near impossibility that the committee — no matter how stunning
the new evidence they unearthed appeared to be — will be able to
persuade a segment of voters who remain unmoved.
Fox News — a major driver of public opinion on the right —
refused to carry the first prime-time hearing (it has since
reversed course). Still, prime-time hosts like Laura Ingraham
have chosen to forgo replaying the new violent scenes, and,
after the first hearing, spent much of the hour afterward
mocking Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., the top Republican on the
committee, and her voice.
The committee’s members have acknowledged they’re unlikely to
move many Trump loyalists, and instead have set lower goals,
like trying to convince enough moderates to sign on to
overhauling the Electoral Count Act to remove loopholes. Their
loftier goals — like convincing the Department of Justice to
indict Trump — don’t require voter support.
And Trump voters say they see through the effort as purely
political.
On Nevada’s primary election day, as voters hurried in and out
of their polling spots, wearing stars-and-stripes socks pulled
up to their knees or collecting into small groups to grouse that
developing countries had superior election integrity,
Republicans were light-years away from granting credibility to
the Jan. 6 committee.
“It’s all political and designed to try to prevent Donald Trump
from running for president again,” said Tom Berenato, a two-time
Trump voter and Clark County resident.
He called the Jan. 6 committee flawed because it has “nobody on
it with opposing views” to the majority on the panel of
Democrats and what he called “anti-Trumpers” like Cheney.
While Berenato doesn’t believe Trump’s false claim that the 2020
election was stolen, he still thought the former president’s
pursuit of election audits and lawsuits were worthy “because
there were a lot of irregularities and shenanigans going on in
several swing states.”
Many other voters interviewed dug in on 2020 election denialism
and repeatedly brought up the need for election integrity. They
slammed the mainstream media — including Fox News — and even
suggested that the witnesses, nearly all of whom so far have
been Republican men, were coerced into their testimony.
The hardened views persisted after testimony was aired from
Trump’s former attorney general, William Barr, and former
campaign manager Bill Stepien, both of whom said they had told
the then-president that there was insufficient evidence of
massive voter fraud and no legal support to overturn the 2020
election.
Several Nevada Republicans interviewed contend Barr’s testimony
was “trash” and quickly discarded Stepien — who continues to
advise Trump-aligned candidates — into a heap of traitorous
RINOs (Republicans in Name Only) attempting to take out Trump.
“You’ve got the liberal mass media, completely controlled with a
narrative that’s sent out to all of them at about 4 a.m. in the
morning,” said Donald Fossum, a supporter rallying outside Reno
High School for the unsuccessful Senate GOP candidate Sam Brown.
“That’s why you can read their lips on your screen; they’re all
saying the same thing.”
Fossum, who dubbed himself “your local cut-the-crap guy,”
stopped himself from going on, saying: “We are being careful in
our realm to not sound conspiratorial.”
At one point on Tuesday, voters consumed with fraud concerns
surrounded Bruce Parks, GOP chair of Washoe County, as he exited
his polling location.
“How do you think we’re doing as far as getting the vote trued
in this state?” John Roberts, who described himself as a
conservative voter, asked Parks. Roberts expressed concern about
the upcoming midterm general election and the 2024 presidential
contest. Another man chimed in about the worry of ballot boxes
being stuffed. Those assembling on the sidewalk began to debate
the need to change state law.
“I understand that and there’s a way to overcome that — vote,”
Parks told them.
When a reporter asked the group if they were persuaded by
testimony the day before of insufficient voter fraud in 2020,
one of the voters who did not give his name pulled his head
back: “You mean on the TV?” Then waved his hand in disgust.
Another voter complained he didn’t know who to trust in the
Republican Party anymore.
“[Barr] came to a conclusion before ever looking at the
evidence,” Roberts said. “I found that really strange.”
At a time when inflation is up, gasoline prices in Nevada lead
the nation at $6-plus a gallon and housing prices are on the
rise, Parks said he’s been swarmed with questions about voter
fraud.
“I hear it all day, every day: ‘Is my vote gonna count this
time?’” Parks said in an interview. “That is one of the biggest
concerns.”
Still, some voters said they were deeply troubled by the events
of Jan. 6. and the hypercharged, politicized environment that
led to it.
“Anybody in the government having a hand in that or allowing it
to happen, to me, is just criminal,” said Steve Trollope, a
voter from Sparks, Nevada. Trollope lamented the dangerous
climate that both parties feed into, he said, where people can
no longer disagree without escalation.
“To me, this is a volatile place,” he said. “Democracy is about
to die. That’s frightening.”
Kill some Democrats.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/impeachment-no-3- jan-6-panel-isnt-swaying-swing-state-republicans-rcna34037
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