The evolution of trolling is fascinating. I can remember back when
it wasn't much more than a minor annoyance. Now people can base a whole
career on various forms of trolling. This is an interesting example of
modern high stakes trolling. #45 is an expert. With the help of his
staff, Biden is getting there.

Biden Laid the Trap. Trump Walked Into It.

At his Pennsylvania rally, the former president gave exactly the
narcissistic display his Democratic nemesis tried to provoke.

By David Frum

"In 2016, Hillary Clinton warned that Donald Trump was a fool who could
be baited with a tweet. This past Thursday night, in Philadelphia, Joe
Biden upped the ante by asking, in effect: What idiot thing might the
former president do if baited with a whole speech? On Saturday night,
the world got its answer.

For the 2022 election cycle, smart Republicans had a clear and simple
plan: Don’t let the election be about Trump. Make it about gas prices,
or crime, or the border, or race, or sex education, or anything—anything
but Trump. Trump lost the popular vote in 2016. He lost control of the
House in 2018. He lost the presidency in 2020. He lost both Senate seats
in Georgia in 2021. Republicans had good reason to dread the havoc he’d create if he joined the fight in 2022.

So they pleaded with Trump to keep out of the 2022 race. A Republican
lawmaker in a close contest told CNN on August 19, “I don’t say his
name, ever.”

Maybe the pleas were always doomed to fail. Show Trump a spotlight, and
he’s going to step into it. But Republicans pinned their hopes on the
chance that Trump might muster some self-discipline this one time, some
regard for the interests and wishes of his partners and allies.

One of the purposes of Biden’s Philadelphia attack on Trump’s faction within the Republican Party was surely to goad Trump. It worked.
Yesterday, in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, Trump addressed a rally
supposedly in support of Republican candidates in the state: Mehmet Oz
for the Senate; the January 6 apologist Doug Mastriano for governor.
This was not Trump’s first 2022 rally speech. He spoke in Arizona in
July. But this one was different: so extreme, strident, and ugly—and so obviously provoked by Biden’s speech that this was what led local news: “Donald Trump Blasts Philadelphia, President Biden During Rally for Doug Mastriano, Dr. Oz in Wilkes-Barre.”

Yes, you read that right: Campaigning in Pennsylvania, the ex-president denounced the state’s largest city. “I think Philadelphia was a great choice to make this speech of hatred and anger. [Biden’s] speech was
hatred and anger,” Trump declared last night. “Last year, the city set
an all-time murder record with 560 homicides, and it’s on track to
shatter that record again in 2022. Numbers that nobody’s ever seen other
than in some other Democrat-run cities.”

Trump spoke at length about the FBI search of his house for stolen
government documents. He lashed out at the FBI, attacking the bureau and
the Department of Justice as “vicious monsters.” He complained about the FBI searching his closets for stolen government documents, inadvertently reminding everyone that the FBI had actually found stolen government
documents in his closet—and in his bathroom too. Trump called Biden an “enemy of the state.” He abused his party’s leader in the U.S. Senate as someone who “should be ashamed.” He claimed to have won the popular vote
in the state of Pennsylvania, which, in fact, he lost by more than
80,000 votes.

The rally format allowed time for only brief remarks by the two
candidates actually on the ballot, Oz and Mastriano. Its message was
otherwise all Trump, Trump, Trump. A Republican vote is a Trump vote. A Republican vote is a vote to endorse lies about the 2020 presidential
election.

On and on it went, in a protracted display of narcissistic injury that
was exactly the behavior that Biden’s Philadelphia speech had been
designed to elicit.

David A. Graham: Trump can’t hide from the Mar-a-Lago photo
Every day since the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago has brought new proof that
Trump still dominates the Republican Party. He has extracted support
even from would-be rivals like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis—rituals of submission within a party hierarchy that respects only acts of domination.

Republican congressional leaders desperately but hopelessly tried to
avert the risk that this next election would become yet another national referendum on Trump’s leadership. Despite Trump’s lying and boasting, politicians who can count to 50 and 218—the respective numbers needed
for a majority in the Senate and House—have to reckon with the
real-world costs of Trump’s defeats. But Biden understood their man’s psychology too well.

Biden came to Philadelphia to deliver a wound to Trump’s boundless yet fragile ego. Trump obliged with a monstrously self-involved meltdown 48
hours later. And now his party has nowhere to hide. Trump has
overwritten his name on every Republican line of every ballot in 2022.
Biden dangled the bait. Trump took it—and put his whole party on the
hook with him. Republican leaders are left with little choice but to
pretend to like it."

https://archive.ph/vYs9R#selection-613.0-835.157

One of the many odd things about trolls is that they are generally
the easiest people to troll. The troll war should be fun to watch.

TB

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On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 7:08:04 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:

The evolution of trolling is fascinating. I can remember back when
it wasn't much more than a minor annoyance. Now people can base a whole career on various forms of trolling. This is an interesting example of modern high stakes trolling. #45 is an expert. With the help of his
staff, Biden is getting there.

Biden Laid the Trap. Trump Walked Into It.

At his Pennsylvania rally, the former president gave exactly the narcissistic display his Democratic nemesis tried to provoke.

By David Frum

"In 2016, Hillary Clinton warned that Donald Trump was a fool who could
be baited with a tweet. This past Thursday night, in Philadelphia, Joe
Biden upped the ante by asking, in effect: What idiot thing might the
former president do if baited with a whole speech? On Saturday night,
the world got its answer.

For the 2022 election cycle, smart Republicans had a clear and simple
plan: Don’t let the election be about Trump. Make it about gas prices,
or crime, or the border, or race, or sex education, or anything—anything but Trump. Trump lost the popular vote in 2016. He lost control of the
House in 2018. He lost the presidency in 2020. He lost both Senate seats
in Georgia in 2021. Republicans had good reason to dread the havoc he’d create if he joined the fight in 2022.

So they pleaded with Trump to keep out of the 2022 race. A Republican lawmaker in a close contest told CNN on August 19, “I don’t say his name, ever.”

Maybe the pleas were always doomed to fail. Show Trump a spotlight, and he’s going to step into it. But Republicans pinned their hopes on the chance that Trump might muster some self-discipline this one time, some regard for the interests and wishes of his partners and allies.

One of the purposes of Biden’s Philadelphia attack on Trump’s faction within the Republican Party was surely to goad Trump. It worked.
Yesterday, in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, Trump addressed a rally
supposedly in support of Republican candidates in the state: Mehmet Oz
for the Senate; the January 6 apologist Doug Mastriano for governor.
This was not Trump’s first 2022 rally speech. He spoke in Arizona in
July. But this one was different: so extreme, strident, and ugly—and so obviously provoked by Biden’s speech that this was what led local news: “Donald Trump Blasts Philadelphia, President Biden During Rally for Doug Mastriano, Dr. Oz in Wilkes-Barre.”

Yes, you read that right: Campaigning in Pennsylvania, the ex-president denounced the state’s largest city. “I think Philadelphia was a great choice to make this speech of hatred and anger. [Biden’s] speech was hatred and anger,” Trump declared last night. “Last year, the city set an all-time murder record with 560 homicides, and it’s on track to
shatter that record again in 2022. Numbers that nobody’s ever seen other than in some other Democrat-run cities.”

Trump spoke at length about the FBI search of his house for stolen government documents. He lashed out at the FBI, attacking the bureau and
the Department of Justice as “vicious monsters.” He complained about the FBI searching his closets for stolen government documents, inadvertently reminding everyone that the FBI had actually found stolen government documents in his closet—and in his bathroom too. Trump called Biden an “enemy of the state.” He abused his party’s leader in the U.S. Senate as
someone who “should be ashamed.” He claimed to have won the popular vote in the state of Pennsylvania, which, in fact, he lost by more than
80,000 votes.

The rally format allowed time for only brief remarks by the two
candidates actually on the ballot, Oz and Mastriano. Its message was otherwise all Trump, Trump, Trump. A Republican vote is a Trump vote. A Republican vote is a vote to endorse lies about the 2020 presidential election.

On and on it went, in a protracted display of narcissistic injury that
was exactly the behavior that Biden’s Philadelphia speech had been designed to elicit.

David A. Graham: Trump can’t hide from the Mar-a-Lago photo
Every day since the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago has brought new proof that Trump still dominates the Republican Party. He has extracted support
even from would-be rivals like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis—rituals of submission within a party hierarchy that respects only acts of domination.

Republican congressional leaders desperately but hopelessly tried to
avert the risk that this next election would become yet another national referendum on Trump’s leadership. Despite Trump’s lying and boasting, politicians who can count to 50 and 218—the respective numbers needed
for a majority in the Senate and House—have to reckon with the
real-world costs of Trump’s defeats. But Biden understood their man’s psychology too well.

Biden came to Philadelphia to deliver a wound to Trump’s boundless yet fragile ego. Trump obliged with a monstrously self-involved meltdown 48 hours later. And now his party has nowhere to hide. Trump has
overwritten his name on every Republican line of every ballot in 2022.
Biden dangled the bait. Trump took it—and put his whole party on the
hook with him. Republican leaders are left with little choice but to
pretend to like it."

https://archive.ph/vYs9R#selection-613.0-835.157

One of the many odd things about trolls is that they are generally
the easiest people to troll. The troll war should be fun to watch.

TB

One of the OrangeTreasonWeasel's most endearing qualities is that he's always willing to display exactly who he is, loudly and publicly. It's a pity so many folks still refuse to believe the evidence of their eyes and ears.

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On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 08:30:50 -0700 (PDT), dm_callier
<dm.callier@gmail.com> wrote:

One of the OrangeTreasonWeasel's most endearing qualities is that he's always willing to display exactly who he is, loudly and publicly. It's a pity so many folks still refuse to believe the evidence of their eyes and ears.

We do not refuse to believe the evidence of our eyes and ears. We do
believe the evidence and find it refreshing - an up front, honest (as to
how he thinks and feels), politician is a rare find.

Jerry O.
--

When bad things start happening to the Middle Class look around and you
will find Liberals, with the best of intentions, interfering in things
they do not understand.

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On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 3:45:39 PM UTC-7, Jerry wrote:

On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 08:30:50 -0700 (PDT), dm_callier
<dm.ca...@gmail.com> wrote:

One of the OrangeTreasonWeasel's most endearing qualities is that he's always willing to display exactly who he is, loudly and publicly. It's a pity so many folks still refuse to believe the evidence of their eyes and ears.

We do not refuse to believe the evidence of our eyes and ears. We do
believe the evidence and find it refreshing - an up front, honest (as to
how he thinks and feels), politician is a rare find.

Jerry O.
--

When bad things start happening to the Middle Class look around and you
will find Liberals, with the best of intentions, interfering in things
they do not understand.

Don't you think "conservatives" (sic) do prexactly the same thing? Having an unqualified desire to supervise, or censor, others activities, without a lack of understanding, just seems to be human nature, from what I see? At the end of the day,
moving forward, both are sort of like "Mammy", in "Gone With The Wind", who have somehow determined, what is "fittin'"...

Scarlett O'Hara Jr.

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On 9/5/2022 5:51 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 3:45:39 PM UTC-7, Jerry wrote:

On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 08:30:50 -0700 (PDT), dm_callier
<dm.ca...@gmail.com> wrote:

One of the OrangeTreasonWeasel's most endearing qualities is that he's always willing to display exactly who he is, loudly and publicly. It's a pity so many folks still refuse to believe the evidence of their eyes and ears.

We do not refuse to believe the evidence of our eyes and ears. We do
believe the evidence and find it refreshing - an up front, honest (as to
how he thinks and feels), politician is a rare find.

Jerry O.
--

When bad things start happening to the Middle Class look around and you
will find Liberals, with the best of intentions, interfering in things
they do not understand.

Don't you think "conservatives" (sic) do prexactly the same thing? Having an unqualified desire to supervise, or censor, others activities, without a lack of understanding, just seems to be human nature, from what I see? At the end of the day,

moving forward, both are sort of like "Mammy", in "Gone With The Wind", who have somehow determined, what is "fittin'"...

Scarlett O'Hara Jr.

My wife says that she wishes the men who want to control her body
could find her clitoris.

TB

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On 9/5/2022 3:45 PM, "Jerry Osage"@osage.com wrote:

On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 08:30:50 -0700 (PDT), dm_callier
<dm.callier@gmail.com> wrote:

One of the OrangeTreasonWeasel's most endearing qualities is that he's always willing to display exactly who he is, loudly and publicly. It's a pity so many folks still refuse to believe the evidence of their eyes and ears.

We do not refuse to believe the evidence of our eyes and ears. We do
believe the evidence and find it refreshing - an up front, honest (as to
how he thinks and feels), politician is a rare find.

Jerry O.

LOL, Who would have thunk it? Feelings are important after all. And
here I thought feelings were the exclusive territory of "special
snowflakes".

"All snowflakes are special. Some snowflakes are more special than
others. Deer leader, #45, is the most special of all.

TB

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On 9/5/2022 6:45 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

On 9/5/2022 5:51 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 3:45:39 PM UTC-7, Jerry wrote:

On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 08:30:50 -0700 (PDT), dm_callier
<dm.ca...@gmail.com> wrote:

One of the OrangeTreasonWeasel's most endearing qualities is that
he's always willing to display exactly who he is, loudly and
publicly. It's a pity so many folks still refuse to believe the
evidence of their eyes and ears.

We do not refuse to believe the evidence of our eyes and ears. We do
believe the evidence and find it refreshing - an up front, honest (as to >>> how he thinks and feels), politician is a rare find.

Jerry O.
--

When bad things start happening to the Middle Class look around and you
will find Liberals, with the best of intentions, interfering in things
they do not understand.

Don't you think "conservatives" (sic) do prexactly the same thing?
Having an unqualified desire to supervise,  or censor,  others
activities,  without a lack of understanding,  just seems to be human
nature,  from what I see?   At the end of the day,  moving forward,
both are sort of like "Mammy", in "Gone With The Wind", who have
somehow determined, what is "fittin'"...

Scarlett O'Hara Jr.

     My wife says that she wishes the men who want to control her body could find her clitoris.

TB

The orange goon would be happy to take a grab at it! HawHawHaw!

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On 9/5/2022 7:32 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

On 9/5/2022 3:45 PM, "Jerry Osage"@osage.com wrote:

On Mon, 5 Sep 2022 08:30:50 -0700 (PDT), dm_callier
<dm.callier@gmail.com> wrote:

One of the OrangeTreasonWeasel's most endearing qualities is that
he's always willing to display exactly who he is, loudly and
publicly. It's a pity so many folks still refuse to believe the
evidence of their eyes and ears.

We do not refuse to believe the evidence of our eyes and ears.  We do
believe the evidence and find it refreshing - an up front, honest (as to
how he thinks and feels), politician is a rare find.

Jerry O.

   LOL, Who would have thunk it? Feelings are important after all. And here I thought feelings were the exclusive territory of "special
snowflakes".

    "All snowflakes are special. Some snowflakes are more special than others. Deer leader, #45, is the most special of all.

TB

Calling the orange goon "honest" is pretty funny. I guess Stalin was
"caring". HawHawHaw!

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