"Ferry fury in Washington hits boiling point
2022/7/24 06:12 (EDT)
SEATTLE — Ferry line cutting is getting out of control, and drivers are raging.
"It makes people's blood boil," said Ian Sterling, a spokesperson for Washington State Ferries.
While waiting in line for an Edmonds-Kingston boat the other day,
Sterling was cut off by someone who, he said, knew what they were doing.
There was little Sterling could do but stew, take a picture of the
license plate and contemplate social media shaming.
"It's at a peak," he said, "as bad as we've seen it."
Ferry line cutting is a legitimate grievance to drivers who sit for
hours in mileslong, single-file, roadside lanes for their spot, only to
have someone barge in shamelessly in front of them, said Sterling.
And it's an added insult when they finally get up to the tollbooth to
report the offender and are told there's little that ferry employees can
do.
Workers don't have the authority or training to confront reported lane cutters, and Sterling says WSF doesn't want them to do it.
"You never know what someone's going to do. It's the Wild West out
there," Sterling said.
Cutting in a ferry line is illegal and can result in a $139 fine if
witnessed by local police or state troopers.
Trooper Kevin Fortino, the public information officer for Washington
State Patrol's Homeland Security Division, says he often works at Colman Dock. If he sees someone cut the line there, he may, depending on the circumstances, write a ticket, let a handful of cars load in front of
the offender or even send the cutter to the back of the line.
But line cutting is not a public safety priority and does not merit the resources that must first go to keeping boats and passengers safe,
Fortino said.
Last year, the State Patrol and the ferry system launched a campaign to educate people about the illegality of line cutting and the potential
for fines. But there aren't enough officers to police ferry lines or
launch lane-cutting stings, Fortino said.
Fortino noted there are legitimate reasons for people to cut in line.
Some people have medical exemptions, he said, because they're going
through grueling procedures in a Seattle medical center. Others are
ferry employees trying to get to work. Keeping the boats running is one
of the better ways to deal with line issues, he said.
Additionally, some drivers have been led by GPS to tollbooths rather
than the end of the ferry line, while others have been confused by
signage, he said.
Sterling said that while line cutting is not new, especially in summer's tourist season, the anger seems more intense.
Law enforcement officers have told him that drivers, in general, seem
angrier and more aggressive than before the pandemic."
[snip]
BINGO! We have a winner! This is what has been happening all over
the country--everywhere. The whole nation has PTSD.
I experienced the problem with the signs the last time we were in Seattle. The GPS was useless. Because of the construction at the
terminal it was a complex maze to get to the toll booth and another maze
to get to the boat. It looked like they were making frequent changes to
the mazes so that no one got used to any one pattern.
TB
On 7/24/2022 10:17 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
"Ferry fury in Washington hits boiling point
2022/7/24 06:12 (EDT)
SEATTLE — Ferry line cutting is getting out of control, and
drivers are raging.
"It makes people's blood boil," said Ian Sterling, a spokesperson
for Washington State Ferries.
While waiting in line for an Edmonds-Kingston boat the other day,
Sterling was cut off by someone who, he said, knew what they were
doing.
There was little Sterling could do but stew, take a picture of the
license plate and contemplate social media shaming.
"It's at a peak," he said, "as bad as we've seen it."
Ferry line cutting is a legitimate grievance to drivers who sit for
hours in mileslong, single-file, roadside lanes for their spot, only
to have someone barge in shamelessly in front of them, said Sterling.
And it's an added insult when they finally get up to the tollbooth
to report the offender and are told there's little that ferry
employees can do.
Workers don't have the authority or training to confront reported
lane cutters, and Sterling says WSF doesn't want them to do it.
"You never know what someone's going to do. It's the Wild West out
there," Sterling said.
Cutting in a ferry line is illegal and can result in a $139 fine if
witnessed by local police or state troopers.
Trooper Kevin Fortino, the public information officer for Washington
State Patrol's Homeland Security Division, says he often works at
Colman Dock. If he sees someone cut the line there, he may,
depending on the circumstances, write a ticket, let a handful of
cars load in front of the offender or even send the cutter to the
back of the line.
But line cutting is not a public safety priority and does not merit
the resources that must first go to keeping boats and passengers
safe, Fortino said.
Last year, the State Patrol and the ferry system launched a campaign
to educate people about the illegality of line cutting and the
potential for fines. But there aren't enough officers to police
ferry lines or launch lane-cutting stings, Fortino said.
Fortino noted there are legitimate reasons for people to cut in line.
Some people have medical exemptions, he said, because they're going
through grueling procedures in a Seattle medical center. Others are
ferry employees trying to get to work. Keeping the boats running is
one of the better ways to deal with line issues, he said.
Additionally, some drivers have been led by GPS to tollbooths rather
than the end of the ferry line, while others have been confused by
signage, he said.
Sterling said that while line cutting is not new, especially in
summer's tourist season, the anger seems more intense.
Law enforcement officers have told him that drivers, in general,
seem angrier and more aggressive than before the pandemic."
[snip]
   BINGO! We have a winner! This is what has been happening all >> over the country--everywhere. The whole nation has PTSD.
   I experienced the problem with the signs the last time we
were in Seattle. The GPS was useless. Because of the construction at
the terminal it was a complex maze to get to the toll booth and
another maze to get to the boat. It looked like they were making
frequent changes to the mazes so that no one got used to any one
pattern.
TB
I can see how it could ruffle some feathers. I've been across the
sound from several different locations but I have never seen this
once. Not denying it happens, though. I've waited in line for a long
time on many occasions. It is against the law and there are signs
indicating such. Not that it matters. They don't enforce many laws up
there in one of the hot beds of liberalism. If you can't get arrested
for destroying property I doubt you could get a ticket for line cutting.
On 2022-07-24 15:17:47 +0000, Technobarbarian said:
"Ferry fury in Washington hits boiling point
2022/7/24 06:12 (EDT)
SEATTLE — Ferry line cutting is getting out of control, and drivers
are raging.
"It makes people's blood boil," said Ian Sterling, a spokesperson for
Washington State Ferries.
I've seen this many times. But than I've probably ridden the ferry
thousands of times more than anyone else in this group
I've also seen the ferry depart (to Seattle) with -one- vehicle on it.
That was an ambulance.
I haven't seen that though since Medical Helicopter flights became common.
On 2022-07-24 15:17:47 +0000, Technobarbarian said:
"Ferry fury in Washington hits boiling point
2022/7/24 06:12 (EDT)
SEATTLE — Ferry line cutting is getting out of control, and drivers
are raging.
"It makes people's blood boil," said Ian Sterling, a spokesperson for
Washington State Ferries.
I've seen this many times. But than I've probably ridden the ferry
thousands of times more than anyone else in this group
I've also seen the ferry depart (to Seattle) with -one- vehicle on it.
That was an ambulance.
I haven't seen that though since Medical Helicopter flights became common.
George.Anthony wrote:
On 7/24/2022 10:17 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
"Ferry fury in Washington hits boiling point
2022/7/24 06:12 (EDT)
SEATTLE — Ferry line cutting is getting out of control, and drivers >>> are raging.
"It makes people's blood boil," said Ian Sterling, a spokesperson for
Washington State Ferries.
While waiting in line for an Edmonds-Kingston boat the other day,
Sterling was cut off by someone who, he said, knew what they were doing. >>>
There was little Sterling could do but stew, take a picture of the
license plate and contemplate social media shaming.
"It's at a peak," he said, "as bad as we've seen it."
Ferry line cutting is a legitimate grievance to drivers who sit for
hours in mileslong, single-file, roadside lanes for their spot, only
to have someone barge in shamelessly in front of them, said Sterling.
And it's an added insult when they finally get up to the tollbooth to
report the offender and are told there's little that ferry employees
can do.
Workers don't have the authority or training to confront reported
lane cutters, and Sterling says WSF doesn't want them to do it.
"You never know what someone's going to do. It's the Wild West out
there," Sterling said.
Cutting in a ferry line is illegal and can result in a $139 fine if
witnessed by local police or state troopers.
Trooper Kevin Fortino, the public information officer for Washington
State Patrol's Homeland Security Division, says he often works at
Colman Dock. If he sees someone cut the line there, he may, depending
on the circumstances, write a ticket, let a handful of cars load in
front of the offender or even send the cutter to the back of the line.
But line cutting is not a public safety priority and does not merit
the resources that must first go to keeping boats and passengers
safe, Fortino said.
Last year, the State Patrol and the ferry system launched a campaign
to educate people about the illegality of line cutting and the
potential for fines. But there aren't enough officers to police ferry
lines or launch lane-cutting stings, Fortino said.
They could increase the fine to a more efficacious $140, and hire red
state Walmart retired receipt checkers to enforce it and literally
collect the fines on the spot. I'll bet they never had that in their calculus.
And while they're at it, they should ban weapons of war and large
magazines in ferry lines before ferrylinecutting rage turns into
gunfights at the OK Ferrylines, and turns the PNW into the WWW (wild
wild West).
Along with an abundance of caution, everything should be on the table,
and no loophole should be left unplugged.
Fortino noted there are legitimate reasons for people to cut in line.
Some people have medical exemptions, he said, because they're going
through grueling procedures in a Seattle medical center. Others are
ferry employees trying to get to work. Keeping the boats running is
one of the better ways to deal with line issues, he said.
Additionally, some drivers have been led by GPS to tollbooths rather
than the end of the ferry line, while others have been confused by
signage, he said.
Sterling said that while line cutting is not new, especially in
summer's tourist season, the anger seems more intense.
Law enforcement officers have told him that drivers, in general, seem
angrier and more aggressive than before the pandemic."
[snip]
   BINGO! We have a winner! This is what has been happening all >>> over the country--everywhere. The whole nation has PTSD.
   I experienced the problem with the signs the last time we >>> were in Seattle. The GPS was useless. Because of the construction at
the terminal it was a complex maze to get to the toll booth and
another maze to get to the boat. It looked like they were making
frequent changes to the mazes so that no one got used to any one
pattern.
TB
I can see how it could ruffle some feathers. I've been across the
sound from several different locations but I have never seen this
once. Not denying it happens, though. I've waited in line for a long
time on many occasions. It is against the law and there are signs
indicating such. Not that it matters. They don't enforce many laws up
there in one of the hot beds of liberalism. If you can't get arrested
for destroying property I doubt you could get a ticket for line cutting.
On 7/24/2022 9:57 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 7/24/2022 10:17 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
"Ferry fury in Washington hits boiling point
2022/7/24 06:12 (EDT)
SEATTLE  Ferry line cutting is getting out of control, and
drivers are raging.
"It makes people's blood boil," said Ian Sterling, a spokesperson
for Washington State Ferries.
While waiting in line for an Edmonds-Kingston boat the other day,
Sterling was cut off by someone who, he said, knew what they were
doing.
There was little Sterling could do but stew, take a picture of the
license plate and contemplate social media shaming.
"It's at a peak," he said, "as bad as we've seen it."
Ferry line cutting is a legitimate grievance to drivers who sit
for hours in mileslong, single-file, roadside lanes for their
spot, only to have someone barge in shamelessly in front of them,
said Sterling.
And it's an added insult when they finally get up to the tollbooth
to report the offender and are told there's little that ferry
employees can do.
Workers don't have the authority or training to confront reported
lane cutters, and Sterling says WSF doesn't want them to do it.
"You never know what someone's going to do. It's the Wild West out
there," Sterling said.
Cutting in a ferry line is illegal and can result in a $139 fine
if witnessed by local police or state troopers.
Trooper Kevin Fortino, the public information officer for
Washington State Patrol's Homeland Security Division, says he
often works at Colman Dock. If he sees someone cut the line there,
he may, depending on the circumstances, write a ticket, let a
handful of cars load in front of the offender or even send the
cutter to the back of the line.
But line cutting is not a public safety priority and does not
merit the resources that must first go to keeping boats and
passengers safe, Fortino said.
Last year, the State Patrol and the ferry system launched a
campaign to educate people about the illegality of line cutting
and the potential for fines. But there aren't enough officers to
police ferry lines or launch lane-cutting stings, Fortino said.
They could increase the fine to a more efficacious $140, and hire
red state Walmart retired receipt checkers to enforce it and
literally collect the fines on the spot. I'll bet they never had
that in their calculus.
And while they're at it, they should ban weapons of war and large
magazines in ferry lines before ferrylinecutting rage turns into
gunfights at the OK Ferrylines, and turns the PNW into the WWW (wild
wild West).
They should give everyone a gun when they get in line and get it back
when the get off the ferry on the other side. That'd fix them damn
line cutter inners!
Along with an abundance of caution, everything should be on the
table, and no loophole should be left unplugged.
Fortino noted there are legitimate reasons for people to cut in line.
Some people have medical exemptions, he said, because they're
going through grueling procedures in a Seattle medical center.
Others are ferry employees trying to get to work. Keeping the
boats running is one of the better ways to deal with line issues,
he said.
Additionally, some drivers have been led by GPS to tollbooths
rather than the end of the ferry line, while others have been
confused by signage, he said.
Sterling said that while line cutting is not new, especially in
summer's tourist season, the anger seems more intense.
Law enforcement officers have told him that drivers, in general,
seem angrier and more aggressive than before the pandemic."
[snip]
 Â Â Â BINGO! We have a winner! This is what has been
happening all over the country--everywhere. The whole nation has
PTSD.
 Â Â Â I experienced the problem with the signs the last
time we were in Seattle. The GPS was useless. Because of the
construction at the terminal it was a complex maze to get to the
toll booth and another maze to get to the boat. It looked like
they were making frequent changes to the mazes so that no one got
used to any one pattern.
TB
I can see how it could ruffle some feathers. I've been across the
sound from several different locations but I have never seen this
once. Not denying it happens, though. I've waited in line for a
long time on many occasions. It is against the law and there are
signs indicating such. Not that it matters. They don't enforce many
laws up there in one of the hot beds of liberalism. If you can't
get arrested for destroying property I doubt you could get a ticket
for line cutting.
kmiller wrote:
On 7/24/2022 9:57 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 7/24/2022 10:17 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
"Ferry fury in Washington hits boiling point
2022/7/24 06:12 (EDT)
SEATTLE  Ferry line cutting is getting out of control, and
drivers are raging.
"It makes people's blood boil," said Ian Sterling, a spokesperson
for Washington State Ferries.
While waiting in line for an Edmonds-Kingston boat the other day,
Sterling was cut off by someone who, he said, knew what they were
doing.
There was little Sterling could do but stew, take a picture of the
license plate and contemplate social media shaming.
"It's at a peak," he said, "as bad as we've seen it."
Ferry line cutting is a legitimate grievance to drivers who sit for
hours in mileslong, single-file, roadside lanes for their spot,
only to have someone barge in shamelessly in front of them, said
Sterling.
And it's an added insult when they finally get up to the tollbooth
to report the offender and are told there's little that ferry
employees can do.
Workers don't have the authority or training to confront reported
lane cutters, and Sterling says WSF doesn't want them to do it.
"You never know what someone's going to do. It's the Wild West out
there," Sterling said.
Cutting in a ferry line is illegal and can result in a $139 fine if
witnessed by local police or state troopers.
Trooper Kevin Fortino, the public information officer for
Washington State Patrol's Homeland Security Division, says he often
works at Colman Dock. If he sees someone cut the line there, he
may, depending on the circumstances, write a ticket, let a handful
of cars load in front of the offender or even send the cutter to
the back of the line.
But line cutting is not a public safety priority and does not merit
the resources that must first go to keeping boats and passengers
safe, Fortino said.
Last year, the State Patrol and the ferry system launched a
campaign to educate people about the illegality of line cutting and
the potential for fines. But there aren't enough officers to police
ferry lines or launch lane-cutting stings, Fortino said.
They could increase the fine to a more efficacious $140, and hire red
state Walmart retired receipt checkers to enforce it and literally
collect the fines on the spot. I'll bet they never had that in their
calculus.
And while they're at it, they should ban weapons of war and large
magazines in ferry lines before ferrylinecutting rage turns into
gunfights at the OK Ferrylines, and turns the PNW into the WWW (wild
wild West).
They should give everyone a gun when they get in line and get it back
when the get off the ferry on the other side. That'd fix them damn
line cutter inners!
If they're gonna do that, they should instead just give the would-be handerouter a gun and let him shoot the line cutterinners. It'd be a lot cheaper - they'd only have to buy and maintain one weapon of war instead
of dozens. You liberals always like to go the most dumbass and expensive route.
Along with an abundance of caution, everything should be on the
table, and no loophole should be left unplugged.
Fortino noted there are legitimate reasons for people to cut in line. >>>>>
Some people have medical exemptions, he said, because they're going
through grueling procedures in a Seattle medical center. Others are
ferry employees trying to get to work. Keeping the boats running is
one of the better ways to deal with line issues, he said.
Additionally, some drivers have been led by GPS to tollbooths
rather than the end of the ferry line, while others have been
confused by signage, he said.
Sterling said that while line cutting is not new, especially in
summer's tourist season, the anger seems more intense.
Law enforcement officers have told him that drivers, in general,
seem angrier and more aggressive than before the pandemic."
[snip]
 Â Â Â BINGO! We have a winner! This is what has been
happening all over the country--everywhere. The whole nation has PTSD. >>>>>
 Â Â Â I experienced the problem with the signs the last
time we were in Seattle. The GPS was useless. Because of the
construction at the terminal it was a complex maze to get to the
toll booth and another maze to get to the boat. It looked like they
were making frequent changes to the mazes so that no one got used
to any one pattern.
TB
I can see how it could ruffle some feathers. I've been across the
sound from several different locations but I have never seen this
once. Not denying it happens, though. I've waited in line for a long
time on many occasions. It is against the law and there are signs
indicating such. Not that it matters. They don't enforce many laws
up there in one of the hot beds of liberalism. If you can't get
arrested for destroying property I doubt you could get a ticket for
line cutting.
On 2022-07-25 16:27:56 +0000, Technobarbarian said:
On 7/25/2022 7:28 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
On 2022-07-24 15:17:47 +0000, Technobarbarian said:
"Ferry fury in Washington hits boiling point
2022/7/24 06:12 (EDT)
SEATTLE — Ferry line cutting is getting out of control, and drivers
are raging.
"It makes people's blood boil," said Ian Sterling, a spokesperson
for Washington State Ferries.
I've seen this many times. But than I've probably ridden the ferry
thousands of times more than anyone else in this group
I've also seen the ferry depart (to Seattle) with -one- vehicle on
it. That was an ambulance.
I haven't seen that though since Medical Helicopter flights became
common.
Yeah, I hadn't seen the mazes around the terminal before.
Hopefully that will end with all the construction going on in that
area. I had seen line jumping before, including on our last trip. I
never worried about it because, as long as I got there at a reasonable
time, I was still getting on the boat.
Honestly the area around the Seattle terminal has been a maze for years. Anyone that takes an RV there is a fool..
Weekends, for Kingston and Bainbridge I've seen delays of up to three
hours, when two ferries are running. Before "Eyman" the Ferry system actually was putting three ferries on the Bainbridge run. That was just
plain "WOW" as you could just show and know you could get on a ferry.
Of course the entire story of Tim would take too much room here.
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