• Portland's Pod People

    From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 22 12:05:44 2022
    Younger working people have real reasons to be pessimistic about
    our economy that have nothing to do with the short term. To put it
    simply unless we make some drastic changes most of them will never own a
    home. We're a prosperous country. It should be easy for everyone to own
    a home. It isn't because of our thinking and our laws.

    This is far from a perfect example, but it demonstrates that
    reasonable shelter doesn't need to be all *that* expensive.

    "Where are Portland’s homeless pods coming from?
    by: Elise Haas

    Posted: Jul 20, 2022 / 04:43 PM PDT

    Updated: Jul 20, 2022 / 06:22 PM PDT

    Neighbors in the area say they see people show up on their streets,
    build them quickly and then take off, not saying who they are.

    PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) — Homeless pods on wheels have been popping up
    around Portland.

    You may have already started to see these structures around town. They
    are roughly 6×8 foot pods that have wheels — but are reportedly heavy
    and hard to move.

    Neighbors in the area say they see people show up on their streets,
    build them quickly and then take off, not saying who they are.

    “Popping up just about anywhere and everywhere over the last month
    without really any description of who is creating them,” said Larry
    Smith, a homeowner in Southeast Portland.

    While neighbors are confused, KOIN 6 went out in search of answers.
    Reporter Elise Haas stopped by a pod next to Kern Park. She found Nancy
    and Jim sitting inside. They preferred to keep their last names off the
    record. They say their families don’t know they’re living like this.

    “I’m not trying to do anything to hurt anybody or make anybody’s life hard or make their home look filthy,” Nancy said. “We just don’t have anywhere to go.”

    They told KOIN 6 a man is building these tiny structures on his own and
    that he has a website and phone number. But they don’t give out his information. They said he prefabricates the structure elsewhere, then
    quickly builds it on site for people living on the streets.

    “You get more privacy and it’s kind of like a step closer to being in a real place,” Nancy said.

    Homeowners nearby said they understand the motivation behind the mobile
    huts — but stress they don’t fix the deeper issues.

    “The problem is a lot of these people need a physical space to occupy. I mean, you can’t get a job if you can’t put an address on an
    application,” Homeowner Chris Engbretson said. “You want someone to have
    a safe space to occupy, but I’m assuming it’s still not an address, so it’s not necessarily a solution to the problem.”

    While some people living in the pods are friendly and neighborly,
    homeowners say others are not. Larry Smith said a woman came out of a
    pod screaming at him while passing by near Southeast 80th and Bush as he
    was out for a walk.

    Engbretson said there used to be another pod next to Nancy’s, which he
    says the city already removed.

    “One of our neighbors [has] photos looking in because the structures
    have windows, have drug paraphernalia straight up inside the structure,
    just like tinfoil drug paraphernalia. So, these are people that are
    really in need of a lot of help,” Engbretson added.

    Smith said this is a difficult problem."
    [snip

    https://www.koin.com/local/multnomah-county/where-are-portlands-homeless-pods-structures-coming-from/

    Yup, that's the message blasting out of the TV here. "DRUG PARAPHERNALIA!" OMG! ALL of those people need a lot of help.

    It's the same way with housing. Nobody wants poor people living in
    their neighborhood. The easiest way to stop that is making sure everyone
    has an expensive home--or they have to live somewhere else. Everyone
    needs a registered address, so the neighbors feel safe and it's easy to
    find you. Even more importantly, if we let people live in cheap houses
    what will happen to the value of the nice homes all those "middle class"
    people own?

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Jul 22 15:24:41 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:

        Younger working people have real reasons to be pessimistic about
    our economy that have nothing to do with the short term. To put it
    simply unless we make some drastic changes most of them will never own
    a home. We're a prosperous country. It should be easy for everyone to
    own a home. It isn't because of our thinking and our laws.

        This is far from a perfect example, but it demonstrates that reasonable shelter doesn't need to be all *that* expensive.

    "Where are Portland’s homeless pods coming from?
    by: Elise Haas

    Posted: Jul 20, 2022 / 04:43 PM PDT

    Updated: Jul 20, 2022 / 06:22 PM PDT

    Neighbors in the area say they see people show up on their streets,
    build them quickly and then take off, not saying who they are.

    PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) — Homeless pods on wheels have been popping up around Portland.

    You may have already started to see these structures around town. They
    are roughly 6×8 foot pods that have wheels — but are reportedly heavy and hard to move.

    Neighbors in the area say they see people show up on their streets,
    build them quickly and then take off, not saying who they are.

    “Popping up just about anywhere and everywhere over the last month without really any description of who is creating them,” said Larry Smith, a homeowner in Southeast Portland.

    While neighbors are confused, KOIN 6 went out in search of answers.
    Reporter Elise Haas stopped by a pod next to Kern Park. She found
    Nancy and Jim sitting inside. They preferred to keep their last names
    off the record. They say their families don’t know they’re living
    like this.

    “I’m not trying to do anything to hurt anybody or make anybody’s
    life hard or make their home look filthy,” Nancy said. “We just don’t have anywhere to go.”

    They told KOIN 6 a man is building these tiny structures on his own
    and that he has a website and phone number. But they don’t give out his information. They said he prefabricates the structure elsewhere,
    then quickly builds it on site for people living on the streets.

    “You get more privacy and it’s kind of like a step closer to being
    in a real place,” Nancy said.

    Homeowners nearby said they understand the motivation behind the
    mobile huts — but stress they don’t fix the deeper issues.

    “The problem is a lot of these people need a physical space to
    occupy. I mean, you can’t get a job if you can’t put an address
    on an application,” Homeowner Chris Engbretson said. “You want someone to have a safe space to occupy, but I’m assuming it’s still not an address, so it’s not necessarily a solution to the problem.”

    While some people living in the pods are friendly and neighborly,
    homeowners say others are not. Larry Smith said a woman came out of a
    pod screaming at him while passing by near Southeast 80th and Bush as
    he was out for a walk.

    Engbretson said there used to be another pod next to Nancy’s, which he says the city already removed.

    “One of our neighbors [has] photos looking in because the structures have windows, have drug paraphernalia straight up inside the
    structure, just like tinfoil drug paraphernalia. So, these are people
    that are really in need of a lot of help,” Engbretson added.

    Smith said this is a difficult problem."
    [snip

    https://www.koin.com/local/multnomah-county/where-are-portlands-homeless-pods-structures-coming-from/


         Yup, that's the message blasting out of the TV here. "DRUG PARAPHERNALIA!" OMG! ALL of those people need a lot of help.

         It's the same way with housing. Nobody wants poor people living
    in their neighborhood. The easiest way to stop that is making sure
    everyone has an expensive home--or they have to live somewhere else. Everyone needs a registered address, so the neighbors feel safe and
    it's easy to find you. Even more importantly, if we let people live in
    cheap houses what will happen to the value of the nice homes all those "middle class" people own?

    TB

    Beats a tent, I suppose, and redefines the 1954 traditional definition
    of pod people.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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