• Demand for marijuana in Oregon plummets, so does the price

    From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 17 09:14:01 2022
    Yep, yet more suffering. lol And I gotta tell ya', yet more funny
    numbers. If yer payin' close attention to the marijuana stories comin'
    out of Oregon the numbers seldom add up. This one is worse than most.

    Demand for marijuana in Oregon plummets, so does the price

    "PORTLAND, Ore. — There is record-high inflation nationwide but not everything is increasing in price. The price of cannabis in Oregon took
    a nosedive over the past year and sales are also on a downward spiral.

    In July of last year, the price of a pound of marijuana was about $1,000
    more than what it costs today. It dropped from $5,433 to $4,536. Sales
    dropped from over $103 million this time last year to just over $82
    million."

    Errrr, screeeeeeech, I gotta stop right there. A pound of pot is
    selling for over $4K in Oregon? At retail today, right down the street,
    without any discounts and before taxes I can buy an ounce of pot for as
    little as $30. The top retail price at that shop, without any discounts,
    is $280 for an ounce of pot. And they offer a lot of discounts. Today
    the smallest discount you can expect is 10%. For lucky veterans it can
    run 30%. Any retailer paying $4K+/pound is losing a lot of money and I
    don't think they can make it up with volume. lol

    "Top grade" pot is one of the biggest scams going. It can cost 3
    times what perfectly good pot costs and it will not get anywhere near
    twice as good as the more reasonably priced pot. Mostly what people are
    buying is bragging rights. That's just the way pot and the market for it
    work. Past a certain point the differences are very subtle, to put it
    nicely. Anyone paying more than $100/ounce is buying high octane fuel
    for a family sedan.

    Just as another matter of simple math: If the price goes down and
    demand stays the same the dollar volume of your sales will go down, even
    though you're still selling the same amount of pot. In the unlikely case
    that their numbers are somewhere close to right, somewhere, the actual
    amount of pot crossing the sales counters hasn't really changed much.

    As a simple matter of fact: Prices plunged several years ago. In
    American dollars the price of pot at retail has not changed all that
    much recently.

    You gotta feel sorry for the poor stoners who can't afford to stay
    baked all the time anymore. LOL

    Bottom line: "“The demand just went down because people stopped
    getting the stimulus checks. There was more stuff to do. People are
    traveling again [and] spending money on other things,” he said."

    https://katu.com/news/local/demand-for-marijuana-in-oregon-plummets-so-does-the-price

    TB

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  • From Don Lampson@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sun Jul 17 11:46:35 2022
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 9:14:07 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    Yep, yet more suffering. lol And I gotta tell ya', yet more funny
    numbers. If yer payin' close attention to the marijuana stories comin'
    out of Oregon the numbers seldom add up. This one is worse than most.

    Demand for marijuana in Oregon plummets, so does the price

    "PORTLAND, Ore. — There is record-high inflation nationwide but not everything is increasing in price. The price of cannabis in Oregon took
    a nosedive over the past year and sales are also on a downward spiral.

    In July of last year, the price of a pound of marijuana was about $1,000 more than what it costs today. It dropped from $5,433 to $4,536. Sales dropped from over $103 million this time last year to just over $82 million."

    Errrr, screeeeeeech, I gotta stop right there. A pound of pot is
    selling for over $4K in Oregon? At retail today, right down the street, without any discounts and before taxes I can buy an ounce of pot for as little as $30. The top retail price at that shop, without any discounts,
    is $280 for an ounce of pot. And they offer a lot of discounts. Today
    the smallest discount you can expect is 10%. For lucky veterans it can
    run 30%. Any retailer paying $4K+/pound is losing a lot of money and I
    don't think they can make it up with volume. lol

    "Top grade" pot is one of the biggest scams going. It can cost 3
    times what perfectly good pot costs and it will not get anywhere near
    twice as good as the more reasonably priced pot. Mostly what people are buying is bragging rights. That's just the way pot and the market for it work. Past a certain point the differences are very subtle, to put it nicely. Anyone paying more than $100/ounce is buying high octane fuel
    for a family sedan.

    Just as another matter of simple math: If the price goes down and
    demand stays the same the dollar volume of your sales will go down, even though you're still selling the same amount of pot. In the unlikely case that their numbers are somewhere close to right, somewhere, the actual amount of pot crossing the sales counters hasn't really changed much.

    As a simple matter of fact: Prices plunged several years ago. In
    American dollars the price of pot at retail has not changed all that
    much recently.

    You gotta feel sorry for the poor stoners who can't afford to stay
    baked all the time anymore. LOL

    Bottom line: "“The demand just went down because people stopped
    getting the stimulus checks. There was more stuff to do. People are traveling again [and] spending money on other things,” he said."

    https://katu.com/news/local/demand-for-marijuana-in-oregon-plummets-so-does-the-price

    TB

    "Top Grade" pot is a scam? How so? The "good shit" can be almost twice as potent as "commercial grade", or "back yard" weed! The cheap stuff is about 16% THC, while "Primo" can run "up to" 36% THC! That's quite a difference! Of course, there
    are diminishing returns for the money spent, just like a Toyota Corolla, vs a Rolls Royce, when both will get one from point A, to point B, just as well as the other..... Do you view Waygu beef, fancy cheeses, and $100 bottles of wine as "scams"
    too?

    When prices increase for luxury goods, & services, the suffering of connoisseurs can nearly put them on the cross in agony, while for those at the bottom of the food chain, the suffering is barely noticeable....

    Orson Wells Jr.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to Don Lampson on Sun Jul 17 16:08:50 2022
    On 7/17/2022 11:46 AM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 9:14:07 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    Yep, yet more suffering. lol And I gotta tell ya', yet more funny
    numbers. If yer payin' close attention to the marijuana stories comin'
    out of Oregon the numbers seldom add up. This one is worse than most.

    Demand for marijuana in Oregon plummets, so does the price

    "PORTLAND, Ore. — There is record-high inflation nationwide but not
    everything is increasing in price. The price of cannabis in Oregon took
    a nosedive over the past year and sales are also on a downward spiral.

    In July of last year, the price of a pound of marijuana was about $1,000
    more than what it costs today. It dropped from $5,433 to $4,536. Sales
    dropped from over $103 million this time last year to just over $82
    million."

    Errrr, screeeeeeech, I gotta stop right there. A pound of pot is
    selling for over $4K in Oregon? At retail today, right down the street,
    without any discounts and before taxes I can buy an ounce of pot for as
    little as $30. The top retail price at that shop, without any discounts,
    is $280 for an ounce of pot. And they offer a lot of discounts. Today
    the smallest discount you can expect is 10%. For lucky veterans it can
    run 30%. Any retailer paying $4K+/pound is losing a lot of money and I
    don't think they can make it up with volume. lol

    "Top grade" pot is one of the biggest scams going. It can cost 3
    times what perfectly good pot costs and it will not get anywhere near
    twice as good as the more reasonably priced pot. Mostly what people are
    buying is bragging rights. That's just the way pot and the market for it
    work. Past a certain point the differences are very subtle, to put it
    nicely. Anyone paying more than $100/ounce is buying high octane fuel
    for a family sedan.

    Just as another matter of simple math: If the price goes down and
    demand stays the same the dollar volume of your sales will go down, even
    though you're still selling the same amount of pot. In the unlikely case
    that their numbers are somewhere close to right, somewhere, the actual
    amount of pot crossing the sales counters hasn't really changed much.

    As a simple matter of fact: Prices plunged several years ago. In
    American dollars the price of pot at retail has not changed all that
    much recently.

    You gotta feel sorry for the poor stoners who can't afford to stay
    baked all the time anymore. LOL

    Bottom line: "“The demand just went down because people stopped
    getting the stimulus checks. There was more stuff to do. People are
    traveling again [and] spending money on other things,” he said."

    https://katu.com/news/local/demand-for-marijuana-in-oregon-plummets-so-does-the-price

    TB

    "Top Grade" pot is a scam? How so? The "good shit" can be almost twice as potent as "commercial grade", or "back yard" weed! The cheap stuff is about 16% THC, while "Primo" can run "up to" 36% THC! That's quite a difference! Of course,
    there are diminishing returns for the money spent, just like a Toyota Corolla, vs a Rolls Royce, when both will get one from point A, to point B, just as well as the other..... Do you view Waygu beef, fancy cheeses, and $100 bottles of wine as "
    scams" too?

    When prices increase for luxury goods, & services, the suffering of connoisseurs can nearly put them on the cross in agony, while for those at the bottom of the food chain, the suffering is barely noticeable....

    Orson Wells Jr.

    Well, first off, it is possible to get just as stoned as you want
    to be these days at fairly low cost. You aren't going to get there if
    you're merely smoking flowers. Your body just can't absorb the chemicals
    fast enough and all of that is headed to a limited number of receptors.
    If you want to get seriously blasted start with a transdermal patch.

    I'm not sure this link will work.

    https://todaysherbalchoice.com/thc-barbur/?dtche%5Bproduct%5D=1-1-transdermal-patch

    If not, start with the homepage and go to topicals.

    https://todaysherbalchoice.com/

    $20 worth is more than enough to start with.

    Here's the amazing thing. I'm sure it's different for everyone,
    BUT there is a point where marijuana intoxication is no longer fun. Put
    a big enough patch of that stuff on your skin long enough and you *will*
    hit that point. Eventually you just want it to stop. The kids I've
    talked to suggest that you start with a quarter of one of those things.
    $5 worth. This is more than the suggested dose and probably more than
    enough for most folks. If you're in the mood you can always smoke more
    right along with that. From what they tell me, I think the kids are
    usually ready to take the patch off before they've worn it out.

    At current prices the $30/ounce stuff is what I would call
    commercial grade. It's still better than what most people were smoking
    in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Once you're spending anywhere close to
    $100/ounce you are into the good stuff here in OR. Spending $280/ounce
    cannot and will not give you anywhere close to commensurate boost in performance. If you can't get where you want to go with the $100 stuff
    it's time to head off into the concentrates.

    TB

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  • From Don Lampson@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sun Jul 17 16:57:26 2022
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 4:08:56 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/17/2022 11:46 AM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 9:14:07 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    Yep, yet more suffering. lol And I gotta tell ya', yet more funny
    numbers. If yer payin' close attention to the marijuana stories comin'
    out of Oregon the numbers seldom add up. This one is worse than most.

    Demand for marijuana in Oregon plummets, so does the price

    "PORTLAND, Ore. — There is record-high inflation nationwide but not
    everything is increasing in price. The price of cannabis in Oregon took >> a nosedive over the past year and sales are also on a downward spiral.

    In July of last year, the price of a pound of marijuana was about $1,000 >> more than what it costs today. It dropped from $5,433 to $4,536. Sales
    dropped from over $103 million this time last year to just over $82
    million."

    Errrr, screeeeeeech, I gotta stop right there. A pound of pot is
    selling for over $4K in Oregon? At retail today, right down the street, >> without any discounts and before taxes I can buy an ounce of pot for as >> little as $30. The top retail price at that shop, without any discounts, >> is $280 for an ounce of pot. And they offer a lot of discounts. Today
    the smallest discount you can expect is 10%. For lucky veterans it can
    run 30%. Any retailer paying $4K+/pound is losing a lot of money and I
    don't think they can make it up with volume. lol

    "Top grade" pot is one of the biggest scams going. It can cost 3
    times what perfectly good pot costs and it will not get anywhere near
    twice as good as the more reasonably priced pot. Mostly what people are >> buying is bragging rights. That's just the way pot and the market for it >> work. Past a certain point the differences are very subtle, to put it
    nicely. Anyone paying more than $100/ounce is buying high octane fuel
    for a family sedan.

    Just as another matter of simple math: If the price goes down and
    demand stays the same the dollar volume of your sales will go down, even >> though you're still selling the same amount of pot. In the unlikely case >> that their numbers are somewhere close to right, somewhere, the actual
    amount of pot crossing the sales counters hasn't really changed much.

    As a simple matter of fact: Prices plunged several years ago. In
    American dollars the price of pot at retail has not changed all that
    much recently.

    You gotta feel sorry for the poor stoners who can't afford to stay
    baked all the time anymore. LOL

    Bottom line: "“The demand just went down because people stopped
    getting the stimulus checks. There was more stuff to do. People are
    traveling again [and] spending money on other things,” he said."

    https://katu.com/news/local/demand-for-marijuana-in-oregon-plummets-so-does-the-price

    TB

    "Top Grade" pot is a scam? How so? The "good shit" can be almost twice as potent as "commercial grade", or "back yard" weed! The cheap stuff is about 16% THC, while "Primo" can run "up to" 36% THC! That's quite a difference! Of course, there are
    diminishing returns for the money spent, just like a Toyota Corolla, vs a Rolls Royce, when both will get one from point A, to point B, just as well as the other..... Do you view Waygu beef, fancy cheeses, and $100 bottles of wine as "scams" too?

    When prices increase for luxury goods, & services, the suffering of connoisseurs can nearly put them on the cross in agony, while for those at the bottom of the food chain, the suffering is barely noticeable....

    Orson Wells Jr.
    Well, first off, it is possible to get just as stoned as you want
    to be these days at fairly low cost. You aren't going to get there if
    you're merely smoking flowers. Your body just can't absorb the chemicals fast enough and all of that is headed to a limited number of receptors.
    If you want to get seriously blasted start with a transdermal patch.

    I'm not sure this link will work.

    https://todaysherbalchoice.com/thc-barbur/?dtche%5Bproduct%5D=1-1-transdermal-patch

    If not, start with the homepage and go to topicals.

    https://todaysherbalchoice.com/

    $20 worth is more than enough to start with.

    Here's the amazing thing. I'm sure it's different for everyone,
    BUT there is a point where marijuana intoxication is no longer fun. Put
    a big enough patch of that stuff on your skin long enough and you *will*
    hit that point. Eventually you just want it to stop. The kids I've
    talked to suggest that you start with a quarter of one of those things.
    $5 worth. This is more than the suggested dose and probably more than
    enough for most folks. If you're in the mood you can always smoke more
    right along with that. From what they tell me, I think the kids are
    usually ready to take the patch off before they've worn it out.

    At current prices the $30/ounce stuff is what I would call
    commercial grade. It's still better than what most people were smoking
    in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Once you're spending anywhere close to
    $100/ounce you are into the good stuff here in OR. Spending $280/ounce cannot and will not give you anywhere close to commensurate boost in performance. If you can't get where you want to go with the $100 stuff
    it's time to head off into the concentrates.

    TB

    Have you actually tried this method, yourself? It sounds like hogwash, to me? Of course, this could be an example of "Yesterday's hipster, today's total S-Q-U-A-R-E!", but I doubt it? Trying absorb any chemical through the skin is time consuming,
    and an inefficient way of doing it.... Besides, the prices for cosmetic pot haven't suffered nearly like flower has... Apparently, you haven't been buying any quality canabanoid infused wrinkle cream, lately?

    Dr. Feelgood Jr.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to Don Lampson on Sun Jul 17 19:03:35 2022
    On 7/17/2022 11:46 AM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 9:14:07 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    Yep, yet more suffering. lol And I gotta tell ya', yet more funny
    numbers. If yer payin' close attention to the marijuana stories comin'
    out of Oregon the numbers seldom add up. This one is worse than most.

    Demand for marijuana in Oregon plummets, so does the price

    "PORTLAND, Ore. — There is record-high inflation nationwide but not
    everything is increasing in price. The price of cannabis in Oregon took
    a nosedive over the past year and sales are also on a downward spiral.

    In July of last year, the price of a pound of marijuana was about $1,000
    more than what it costs today. It dropped from $5,433 to $4,536. Sales
    dropped from over $103 million this time last year to just over $82
    million."

    Errrr, screeeeeeech, I gotta stop right there. A pound of pot is
    selling for over $4K in Oregon? At retail today, right down the street,
    without any discounts and before taxes I can buy an ounce of pot for as
    little as $30. The top retail price at that shop, without any discounts,
    is $280 for an ounce of pot. And they offer a lot of discounts. Today
    the smallest discount you can expect is 10%. For lucky veterans it can
    run 30%. Any retailer paying $4K+/pound is losing a lot of money and I
    don't think they can make it up with volume. lol

    "Top grade" pot is one of the biggest scams going. It can cost 3
    times what perfectly good pot costs and it will not get anywhere near
    twice as good as the more reasonably priced pot. Mostly what people are
    buying is bragging rights. That's just the way pot and the market for it
    work. Past a certain point the differences are very subtle, to put it
    nicely. Anyone paying more than $100/ounce is buying high octane fuel
    for a family sedan.

    Just as another matter of simple math: If the price goes down and
    demand stays the same the dollar volume of your sales will go down, even
    though you're still selling the same amount of pot. In the unlikely case
    that their numbers are somewhere close to right, somewhere, the actual
    amount of pot crossing the sales counters hasn't really changed much.

    As a simple matter of fact: Prices plunged several years ago. In
    American dollars the price of pot at retail has not changed all that
    much recently.

    You gotta feel sorry for the poor stoners who can't afford to stay
    baked all the time anymore. LOL

    Bottom line: "“The demand just went down because people stopped
    getting the stimulus checks. There was more stuff to do. People are
    traveling again [and] spending money on other things,” he said."

    https://katu.com/news/local/demand-for-marijuana-in-oregon-plummets-so-does-the-price

    TB

    "Top Grade" pot is a scam? How so? The "good shit" can be almost twice as potent as "commercial grade", or "back yard" weed! The cheap stuff is about 16% THC, while "Primo" can run "up to" 36% THC! That's quite a difference! Of course,
    there are diminishing returns for the money spent, just like a Toyota Corolla, vs a Rolls Royce, when both will get one from point A, to point B, just as well as the other..... Do you view Waygu beef, fancy cheeses, and $100 bottles of wine as "
    scams" too?

    When prices increase for luxury goods, & services, the suffering of connoisseurs can nearly put them on the cross in agony, while for those at the bottom of the food chain, the suffering is barely noticeable....

    Orson Wells Jr.

    Oh and BTW, the "Waygu" beef you buy in this country is famously
    a scam. I've had the real deal--in Japan. To put it simply what you buy
    here is not raised nearly as carefully. That extra care is why the
    Japanese version costs more. American beef grades don't even go as high
    as the Japanese grades.

    "
    The Real Reason Your Wagyu Beef Is Probably Fake

    Read More: https://www.mashed.com/282674/the-real-reason-your-wagyu-beef-is-probably-fake/?utm_campaign=clip"

    Fancy alcohol of any sort is also a scam. No matter what the labels
    say it's all just slightly different flavors of yeast piss. You can get
    just as drunk and just as hungover on the "good" stuff as you can on the "rotgut". It's all about bragging rights.

    TB

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  • From filmbydon@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sun Jul 17 20:14:50 2022
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 7:03:40 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/17/2022 11:46 AM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 9:14:07 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    Yep, yet more suffering. lol And I gotta tell ya', yet more funny
    numbers. If yer payin' close attention to the marijuana stories comin'
    out of Oregon the numbers seldom add up. This one is worse than most.

    Demand for marijuana in Oregon plummets, so does the price

    "PORTLAND, Ore. — There is record-high inflation nationwide but not
    everything is increasing in price. The price of cannabis in Oregon took >> a nosedive over the past year and sales are also on a downward spiral.

    In July of last year, the price of a pound of marijuana was about $1,000 >> more than what it costs today. It dropped from $5,433 to $4,536. Sales
    dropped from over $103 million this time last year to just over $82
    million."

    Errrr, screeeeeeech, I gotta stop right there. A pound of pot is
    selling for over $4K in Oregon? At retail today, right down the street, >> without any discounts and before taxes I can buy an ounce of pot for as >> little as $30. The top retail price at that shop, without any discounts, >> is $280 for an ounce of pot. And they offer a lot of discounts. Today
    the smallest discount you can expect is 10%. For lucky veterans it can
    run 30%. Any retailer paying $4K+/pound is losing a lot of money and I
    don't think they can make it up with volume. lol

    "Top grade" pot is one of the biggest scams going. It can cost 3
    times what perfectly good pot costs and it will not get anywhere near
    twice as good as the more reasonably priced pot. Mostly what people are >> buying is bragging rights. That's just the way pot and the market for it >> work. Past a certain point the differences are very subtle, to put it
    nicely. Anyone paying more than $100/ounce is buying high octane fuel
    for a family sedan.

    Just as another matter of simple math: If the price goes down and
    demand stays the same the dollar volume of your sales will go down, even >> though you're still selling the same amount of pot. In the unlikely case >> that their numbers are somewhere close to right, somewhere, the actual
    amount of pot crossing the sales counters hasn't really changed much.

    As a simple matter of fact: Prices plunged several years ago. In
    American dollars the price of pot at retail has not changed all that
    much recently.

    You gotta feel sorry for the poor stoners who can't afford to stay
    baked all the time anymore. LOL

    Bottom line: "“The demand just went down because people stopped
    getting the stimulus checks. There was more stuff to do. People are
    traveling again [and] spending money on other things,” he said."

    https://katu.com/news/local/demand-for-marijuana-in-oregon-plummets-so-does-the-price

    TB

    "Top Grade" pot is a scam? How so? The "good shit" can be almost twice as potent as "commercial grade", or "back yard" weed! The cheap stuff is about 16% THC, while "Primo" can run "up to" 36% THC! That's quite a difference! Of course, there are
    diminishing returns for the money spent, just like a Toyota Corolla, vs a Rolls Royce, when both will get one from point A, to point B, just as well as the other..... Do you view Waygu beef, fancy cheeses, and $100 bottles of wine as "scams" too?

    When prices increase for luxury goods, & services, the suffering of connoisseurs can nearly put them on the cross in agony, while for those at the bottom of the food chain, the suffering is barely noticeable....

    Orson Wells Jr.
    Oh and BTW, the "Waygu" beef you buy in this country is famously
    a scam. I've had the real deal--in Japan. To put it simply what you buy
    here is not raised nearly as carefully. That extra care is why the
    Japanese version costs more. American beef grades don't even go as high
    as the Japanese grades.

    "
    The Real Reason Your Wagyu Beef Is Probably Fake

    Read More: https://www.mashed.com/282674/the-real-reason-your-wagyu-beef-is-probably-fake/?utm_campaign=clip"

    Fancy alcohol of any sort is also a scam. No matter what the labels
    say it's all just slightly different flavors of yeast piss. You can get
    just as drunk and just as hungover on the "good" stuff as you can on the "rotgut". It's all about bragging rights.

    TB

    A better example might be pianos, which for a century was the family home's bastion of culture... Being a piano teacher was a genuine profession for decades... Now days, teachers are on the internet, and it's hard to get someone to haul a spinet, or
    even an upright, away, without paying to have it done.... However, grand pianos are still selling well, even in luxurious homes, where nobody play "keyboards".... "Tis a fine line, betwixt snob appeal, and making a genuine tasteful
    distinction....

    Julia Child Jr.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to Don Lampson on Sun Jul 17 20:27:44 2022
    On 7/17/2022 4:57 PM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 4:08:56 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/17/2022 11:46 AM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 9:14:07 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    Yep, yet more suffering. lol And I gotta tell ya', yet more funny
    numbers. If yer payin' close attention to the marijuana stories comin' >>>> out of Oregon the numbers seldom add up. This one is worse than most.

    Demand for marijuana in Oregon plummets, so does the price

    "PORTLAND, Ore. — There is record-high inflation nationwide but not
    everything is increasing in price. The price of cannabis in Oregon took >>>> a nosedive over the past year and sales are also on a downward spiral. >>>>
    In July of last year, the price of a pound of marijuana was about $1,000 >>>> more than what it costs today. It dropped from $5,433 to $4,536. Sales >>>> dropped from over $103 million this time last year to just over $82
    million."

    Errrr, screeeeeeech, I gotta stop right there. A pound of pot is
    selling for over $4K in Oregon? At retail today, right down the street, >>>> without any discounts and before taxes I can buy an ounce of pot for as >>>> little as $30. The top retail price at that shop, without any discounts, >>>> is $280 for an ounce of pot. And they offer a lot of discounts. Today
    the smallest discount you can expect is 10%. For lucky veterans it can >>>> run 30%. Any retailer paying $4K+/pound is losing a lot of money and I >>>> don't think they can make it up with volume. lol

    "Top grade" pot is one of the biggest scams going. It can cost 3
    times what perfectly good pot costs and it will not get anywhere near
    twice as good as the more reasonably priced pot. Mostly what people are >>>> buying is bragging rights. That's just the way pot and the market for it >>>> work. Past a certain point the differences are very subtle, to put it
    nicely. Anyone paying more than $100/ounce is buying high octane fuel
    for a family sedan.

    Just as another matter of simple math: If the price goes down and
    demand stays the same the dollar volume of your sales will go down, even >>>> though you're still selling the same amount of pot. In the unlikely case >>>> that their numbers are somewhere close to right, somewhere, the actual >>>> amount of pot crossing the sales counters hasn't really changed much.

    As a simple matter of fact: Prices plunged several years ago. In
    American dollars the price of pot at retail has not changed all that
    much recently.

    You gotta feel sorry for the poor stoners who can't afford to stay
    baked all the time anymore. LOL

    Bottom line: "“The demand just went down because people stopped
    getting the stimulus checks. There was more stuff to do. People are
    traveling again [and] spending money on other things,” he said."

    https://katu.com/news/local/demand-for-marijuana-in-oregon-plummets-so-does-the-price

    TB

    "Top Grade" pot is a scam? How so? The "good shit" can be almost twice as potent as "commercial grade", or "back yard" weed! The cheap stuff is about 16% THC, while "Primo" can run "up to" 36% THC! That's quite a difference! Of course, there are
    diminishing returns for the money spent, just like a Toyota Corolla, vs a Rolls Royce, when both will get one from point A, to point B, just as well as the other..... Do you view Waygu beef, fancy cheeses, and $100 bottles of wine as "scams" too?

    When prices increase for luxury goods, & services, the suffering of connoisseurs can nearly put them on the cross in agony, while for those at the bottom of the food chain, the suffering is barely noticeable....

    Orson Wells Jr.
    Well, first off, it is possible to get just as stoned as you want
    to be these days at fairly low cost. You aren't going to get there if
    you're merely smoking flowers. Your body just can't absorb the chemicals
    fast enough and all of that is headed to a limited number of receptors.
    If you want to get seriously blasted start with a transdermal patch.

    I'm not sure this link will work.

    https://todaysherbalchoice.com/thc-barbur/?dtche%5Bproduct%5D=1-1-transdermal-patch

    If not, start with the homepage and go to topicals.

    https://todaysherbalchoice.com/

    $20 worth is more than enough to start with.

    Here's the amazing thing. I'm sure it's different for everyone,
    BUT there is a point where marijuana intoxication is no longer fun. Put
    a big enough patch of that stuff on your skin long enough and you *will*
    hit that point. Eventually you just want it to stop. The kids I've
    talked to suggest that you start with a quarter of one of those things.
    $5 worth. This is more than the suggested dose and probably more than
    enough for most folks. If you're in the mood you can always smoke more
    right along with that. From what they tell me, I think the kids are
    usually ready to take the patch off before they've worn it out.

    At current prices the $30/ounce stuff is what I would call
    commercial grade. It's still better than what most people were smoking
    in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Once you're spending anywhere close to
    $100/ounce you are into the good stuff here in OR. Spending $280/ounce
    cannot and will not give you anywhere close to commensurate boost in
    performance. If you can't get where you want to go with the $100 stuff
    it's time to head off into the concentrates.

    TB

    Have you actually tried this method, yourself? It sounds like hogwash, to me? Of course, this could be an example of "Yesterday's hipster, today's total S-Q-U-A-R-E!", but I doubt it? Trying absorb any chemical through the skin is time consuming,
    and an inefficient way of doing it.... Besides, the prices for cosmetic pot haven't suffered nearly like flower has... Apparently, you haven't been buying any quality canabanoid infused wrinkle cream, lately?

    Dr. Feelgood Jr.

    BTDT. With all the drugs the real secret is learning what dosage
    of what works for you. Pretty much everyone is this country knows how
    their body reacts to how much yeast piss. One of the nice things about
    anything from "the good stuff" to top shelf flower is that you will not
    hit a point where you seriously feel like you've had way waaaaay TOO
    much. You simply can't smoke that much unless you have a very low
    tolerance. I think most people would hit that point with half of one of
    those $20 patches, or less.

    This is one of the many things that makes THC numbers look silly.
    For awhile we could buy nearly pure THC powder. It was no big whoop. Any
    way you use it you lose a lot of active ingredients. The accuracy of the
    THC numbers you see at retail are dubious--at best. When I see pot
    products graded by the shelf I always wonder who in the hell and on what
    basis someone decided what goes on what shelf. The same goes for alcohol products. What the hell? The only real difference is that one will get
    you screwed up a bit faster than another.

    Why I Had To Stop Drinking | Gabriel Iglesias

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaapnVtm8lI

    TB

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  • From Frank Howell@21:1/5 to Don Lampson on Sun Jul 17 21:04:17 2022
    Don Lampson wrote:
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 9:14:07 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    Yep, yet more suffering. lol And I gotta tell ya', yet more funny
    numbers. If yer payin' close attention to the marijuana stories comin'
    out of Oregon the numbers seldom add up. This one is worse than most.

    Demand for marijuana in Oregon plummets, so does the price

    "PORTLAND, Ore. — There is record-high inflation nationwide but not
    everything is increasing in price. The price of cannabis in Oregon took
    a nosedive over the past year and sales are also on a downward spiral.

    In July of last year, the price of a pound of marijuana was about $1,000
    more than what it costs today. It dropped from $5,433 to $4,536. Sales
    dropped from over $103 million this time last year to just over $82
    million."

    Errrr, screeeeeeech, I gotta stop right there. A pound of pot is
    selling for over $4K in Oregon? At retail today, right down the street,
    without any discounts and before taxes I can buy an ounce of pot for as
    little as $30. The top retail price at that shop, without any discounts,
    is $280 for an ounce of pot. And they offer a lot of discounts. Today
    the smallest discount you can expect is 10%. For lucky veterans it can
    run 30%. Any retailer paying $4K+/pound is losing a lot of money and I
    don't think they can make it up with volume. lol

    "Top grade" pot is one of the biggest scams going. It can cost 3
    times what perfectly good pot costs and it will not get anywhere near
    twice as good as the more reasonably priced pot. Mostly what people are
    buying is bragging rights. That's just the way pot and the market for it
    work. Past a certain point the differences are very subtle, to put it
    nicely. Anyone paying more than $100/ounce is buying high octane fuel
    for a family sedan.

    Just as another matter of simple math: If the price goes down and
    demand stays the same the dollar volume of your sales will go down, even
    though you're still selling the same amount of pot. In the unlikely case
    that their numbers are somewhere close to right, somewhere, the actual
    amount of pot crossing the sales counters hasn't really changed much.

    As a simple matter of fact: Prices plunged several years ago. In
    American dollars the price of pot at retail has not changed all that
    much recently.

    You gotta feel sorry for the poor stoners who can't afford to stay
    baked all the time anymore. LOL

    Bottom line: "“The demand just went down because people stopped
    getting the stimulus checks. There was more stuff to do. People are
    traveling again [and] spending money on other things,” he said."

    https://katu.com/news/local/demand-for-marijuana-in-oregon-plummets-so-does-the-price

    TB

    "Top Grade" pot is a scam? How so? The "good shit" can be almost twice as potent as "commercial grade", or "back yard" weed! The cheap stuff is about 16% THC, while "Primo" can run "up to" 36% THC! That's quite a difference! Of course,
    there are diminishing returns for the money spent, just like a Toyota Corolla, vs a Rolls Royce, when both will get one from point A, to point B, just as well as the other..... Do you view Waygu beef, fancy cheeses, and $100 bottles of wine as "
    scams" too?

    When prices increase for luxury goods, & services, the suffering of connoisseurs can nearly put them on the cross in agony, while for those at the bottom of the food chain, the suffering is barely noticeable....

    Orson Wells Jr.

    Excuse me but you are comparing apples to oranges. Oregon and California
    pot rules and taxes are completely different. California's black market
    makes up about 75% of all sales due to the botched roll out rules and
    high taxes. In Salem Oregon pot stores out number 7/11's
    Oregon pot stores sell pot with 30% THC for $65 and 29% for $60 and so
    on. But if you want a higher potency say Elephant Ears at 37% it costs
    $350. That said probably the smoke is more enjoyable.

    Check it out. https://herbalremedies503.com/

    --
    Frank Howell

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  • From filmbydon@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Frank Howell on Mon Jul 18 02:01:17 2022
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 9:04:09 PM UTC-7, Frank Howell wrote:
    Don Lampson wrote:
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 9:14:07 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    Yep, yet more suffering. lol And I gotta tell ya', yet more funny
    numbers. If yer payin' close attention to the marijuana stories comin'
    out of Oregon the numbers seldom add up. This one is worse than most.

    Demand for marijuana in Oregon plummets, so does the price

    "PORTLAND, Ore. — There is record-high inflation nationwide but not
    everything is increasing in price. The price of cannabis in Oregon took >> a nosedive over the past year and sales are also on a downward spiral.

    In July of last year, the price of a pound of marijuana was about $1,000 >> more than what it costs today. It dropped from $5,433 to $4,536. Sales
    dropped from over $103 million this time last year to just over $82
    million."

    Errrr, screeeeeeech, I gotta stop right there. A pound of pot is
    selling for over $4K in Oregon? At retail today, right down the street, >> without any discounts and before taxes I can buy an ounce of pot for as >> little as $30. The top retail price at that shop, without any discounts, >> is $280 for an ounce of pot. And they offer a lot of discounts. Today
    the smallest discount you can expect is 10%. For lucky veterans it can
    run 30%. Any retailer paying $4K+/pound is losing a lot of money and I
    don't think they can make it up with volume. lol

    "Top grade" pot is one of the biggest scams going. It can cost 3
    times what perfectly good pot costs and it will not get anywhere near
    twice as good as the more reasonably priced pot. Mostly what people are >> buying is bragging rights. That's just the way pot and the market for it >> work. Past a certain point the differences are very subtle, to put it
    nicely. Anyone paying more than $100/ounce is buying high octane fuel
    for a family sedan.

    Just as another matter of simple math: If the price goes down and
    demand stays the same the dollar volume of your sales will go down, even >> though you're still selling the same amount of pot. In the unlikely case >> that their numbers are somewhere close to right, somewhere, the actual
    amount of pot crossing the sales counters hasn't really changed much.

    As a simple matter of fact: Prices plunged several years ago. In
    American dollars the price of pot at retail has not changed all that
    much recently.

    You gotta feel sorry for the poor stoners who can't afford to stay
    baked all the time anymore. LOL

    Bottom line: "“The demand just went down because people stopped
    getting the stimulus checks. There was more stuff to do. People are
    traveling again [and] spending money on other things,” he said."

    https://katu.com/news/local/demand-for-marijuana-in-oregon-plummets-so-does-the-price

    TB

    "Top Grade" pot is a scam? How so? The "good shit" can be almost twice as potent as "commercial grade", or "back yard" weed! The cheap stuff is about 16% THC, while "Primo" can run "up to" 36% THC! That's quite a difference! Of course, there are
    diminishing returns for the money spent, just like a Toyota Corolla, vs a Rolls Royce, when both will get one from point A, to point B, just as well as the other..... Do you view Waygu beef, fancy cheeses, and $100 bottles of wine as "scams" too?

    When prices increase for luxury goods, & services, the suffering of connoisseurs can nearly put them on the cross in agony, while for those at the bottom of the food chain, the suffering is barely noticeable....

    Orson Wells Jr.

    Excuse me but you are comparing apples to oranges. Oregon and California
    pot rules and taxes are completely different. California's black market makes up about 75% of all sales due to the botched roll out rules and
    high taxes. In Salem Oregon pot stores out number 7/11's
    Oregon pot stores sell pot with 30% THC for $65 and 29% for $60 and so
    on. But if you want a higher potency say Elephant Ears at 37% it costs
    $350. That said probably the smoke is more enjoyable.

    Check it out. https://herbalremedies503.com/

    --
    Frank Howell


    I didn't find any 30% for $65 per Oz.... I also didn't see much difference in the price of flower, in OR, compared to CA.... Vape cartridges seem to be cheaper, but most I saw were lower in THC, than in CA....

    Harry Ashslinger Jr.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to film...@gmail.com on Mon Jul 18 09:58:34 2022
    On 7/17/2022 8:14 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 7:03:40 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/17/2022 11:46 AM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 9:14:07 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    Yep, yet more suffering. lol And I gotta tell ya', yet more funny
    numbers. If yer payin' close attention to the marijuana stories comin' >>>> out of Oregon the numbers seldom add up. This one is worse than most.

    Demand for marijuana in Oregon plummets, so does the price

    "PORTLAND, Ore. — There is record-high inflation nationwide but not
    everything is increasing in price. The price of cannabis in Oregon took >>>> a nosedive over the past year and sales are also on a downward spiral. >>>>
    In July of last year, the price of a pound of marijuana was about $1,000 >>>> more than what it costs today. It dropped from $5,433 to $4,536. Sales >>>> dropped from over $103 million this time last year to just over $82
    million."

    Errrr, screeeeeeech, I gotta stop right there. A pound of pot is
    selling for over $4K in Oregon? At retail today, right down the street, >>>> without any discounts and before taxes I can buy an ounce of pot for as >>>> little as $30. The top retail price at that shop, without any discounts, >>>> is $280 for an ounce of pot. And they offer a lot of discounts. Today
    the smallest discount you can expect is 10%. For lucky veterans it can >>>> run 30%. Any retailer paying $4K+/pound is losing a lot of money and I >>>> don't think they can make it up with volume. lol

    "Top grade" pot is one of the biggest scams going. It can cost 3
    times what perfectly good pot costs and it will not get anywhere near
    twice as good as the more reasonably priced pot. Mostly what people are >>>> buying is bragging rights. That's just the way pot and the market for it >>>> work. Past a certain point the differences are very subtle, to put it
    nicely. Anyone paying more than $100/ounce is buying high octane fuel
    for a family sedan.

    Just as another matter of simple math: If the price goes down and
    demand stays the same the dollar volume of your sales will go down, even >>>> though you're still selling the same amount of pot. In the unlikely case >>>> that their numbers are somewhere close to right, somewhere, the actual >>>> amount of pot crossing the sales counters hasn't really changed much.

    As a simple matter of fact: Prices plunged several years ago. In
    American dollars the price of pot at retail has not changed all that
    much recently.

    You gotta feel sorry for the poor stoners who can't afford to stay
    baked all the time anymore. LOL

    Bottom line: "“The demand just went down because people stopped
    getting the stimulus checks. There was more stuff to do. People are
    traveling again [and] spending money on other things,” he said."

    https://katu.com/news/local/demand-for-marijuana-in-oregon-plummets-so-does-the-price

    TB

    "Top Grade" pot is a scam? How so? The "good shit" can be almost twice as potent as "commercial grade", or "back yard" weed! The cheap stuff is about 16% THC, while "Primo" can run "up to" 36% THC! That's quite a difference! Of course, there are
    diminishing returns for the money spent, just like a Toyota Corolla, vs a Rolls Royce, when both will get one from point A, to point B, just as well as the other..... Do you view Waygu beef, fancy cheeses, and $100 bottles of wine as "scams" too?

    When prices increase for luxury goods, & services, the suffering of connoisseurs can nearly put them on the cross in agony, while for those at the bottom of the food chain, the suffering is barely noticeable....

    Orson Wells Jr.
    Oh and BTW, the "Waygu" beef you buy in this country is famously
    a scam. I've had the real deal--in Japan. To put it simply what you buy
    here is not raised nearly as carefully. That extra care is why the
    Japanese version costs more. American beef grades don't even go as high
    as the Japanese grades.

    "
    The Real Reason Your Wagyu Beef Is Probably Fake

    Read More:
    https://www.mashed.com/282674/the-real-reason-your-wagyu-beef-is-probably-fake/?utm_campaign=clip"

    Fancy alcohol of any sort is also a scam. No matter what the labels
    say it's all just slightly different flavors of yeast piss. You can get
    just as drunk and just as hungover on the "good" stuff as you can on the
    "rotgut". It's all about bragging rights.

    TB

    A better example might be pianos, which for a century was the family home's bastion of culture... Being a piano teacher was a genuine profession for decades... Now days, teachers are on the internet, and it's hard to get someone to haul a spinet,
    or even an upright, away, without paying to have it done.... However, grand pianos are still selling well, even in luxurious homes, where nobody play "keyboards".... "Tis a fine line, betwixt snob appeal, and making a genuine tasteful
    distinction....

    Julia Child Jr.

    Yep, when you're talking about machinery there are all sorts of
    excellent examples of why you have to pay more for "the good stuff". I
    have never regretted the cost of good tools and good machinery.

    OTOH you can buy a very reliable and comfortable vehicle these
    days without spending an arm and a leg. When I get "there" I'm just as
    much there as the guy who arrived in a Rolls Royce. Past a certain point
    and you're just buying bragging rights.

    Cheese OTOH? Just because you paid more it doesn't mean it will
    really taste any better than something that came out of a factory.

    TB

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to film...@gmail.com on Mon Jul 18 10:31:48 2022
    On 7/18/2022 2:01 AM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 9:04:09 PM UTC-7, Frank Howell wrote:
    Don Lampson wrote:
    On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 9:14:07 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    Yep, yet more suffering. lol And I gotta tell ya', yet more funny
    numbers. If yer payin' close attention to the marijuana stories comin' >>>> out of Oregon the numbers seldom add up. This one is worse than most.

    Demand for marijuana in Oregon plummets, so does the price

    "PORTLAND, Ore. — There is record-high inflation nationwide but not
    everything is increasing in price. The price of cannabis in Oregon took >>>> a nosedive over the past year and sales are also on a downward spiral. >>>>
    In July of last year, the price of a pound of marijuana was about $1,000 >>>> more than what it costs today. It dropped from $5,433 to $4,536. Sales >>>> dropped from over $103 million this time last year to just over $82
    million."

    Errrr, screeeeeeech, I gotta stop right there. A pound of pot is
    selling for over $4K in Oregon? At retail today, right down the street, >>>> without any discounts and before taxes I can buy an ounce of pot for as >>>> little as $30. The top retail price at that shop, without any discounts, >>>> is $280 for an ounce of pot. And they offer a lot of discounts. Today
    the smallest discount you can expect is 10%. For lucky veterans it can >>>> run 30%. Any retailer paying $4K+/pound is losing a lot of money and I >>>> don't think they can make it up with volume. lol

    "Top grade" pot is one of the biggest scams going. It can cost 3
    times what perfectly good pot costs and it will not get anywhere near
    twice as good as the more reasonably priced pot. Mostly what people are >>>> buying is bragging rights. That's just the way pot and the market for it >>>> work. Past a certain point the differences are very subtle, to put it
    nicely. Anyone paying more than $100/ounce is buying high octane fuel
    for a family sedan.

    Just as another matter of simple math: If the price goes down and
    demand stays the same the dollar volume of your sales will go down, even >>>> though you're still selling the same amount of pot. In the unlikely case >>>> that their numbers are somewhere close to right, somewhere, the actual >>>> amount of pot crossing the sales counters hasn't really changed much.

    As a simple matter of fact: Prices plunged several years ago. In
    American dollars the price of pot at retail has not changed all that
    much recently.

    You gotta feel sorry for the poor stoners who can't afford to stay
    baked all the time anymore. LOL

    Bottom line: "“The demand just went down because people stopped
    getting the stimulus checks. There was more stuff to do. People are
    traveling again [and] spending money on other things,” he said."

    https://katu.com/news/local/demand-for-marijuana-in-oregon-plummets-so-does-the-price

    TB

    "Top Grade" pot is a scam? How so? The "good shit" can be almost twice as potent as "commercial grade", or "back yard" weed! The cheap stuff is about 16% THC, while "Primo" can run "up to" 36% THC! That's quite a difference! Of course, there are
    diminishing returns for the money spent, just like a Toyota Corolla, vs a Rolls Royce, when both will get one from point A, to point B, just as well as the other..... Do you view Waygu beef, fancy cheeses, and $100 bottles of wine as "scams" too?

    When prices increase for luxury goods, & services, the suffering of connoisseurs can nearly put them on the cross in agony, while for those at the bottom of the food chain, the suffering is barely noticeable....

    Orson Wells Jr.

    Excuse me but you are comparing apples to oranges. Oregon and California
    pot rules and taxes are completely different. California's black market
    makes up about 75% of all sales due to the botched roll out rules and
    high taxes. In Salem Oregon pot stores out number 7/11's
    Oregon pot stores sell pot with 30% THC for $65 and 29% for $60 and so
    on. But if you want a higher potency say Elephant Ears at 37% it costs
    $350. That said probably the smoke is more enjoyable.

    Check it out. https://herbalremedies503.com/

    --
    Frank Howell


    I didn't find any 30% for $65 per Oz.... I also didn't see much difference in the price of flower, in OR, compared to CA.... Vape cartridges seem to be cheaper, but most I saw were lower in THC, than in CA....

    Harry Ashslinger Jr.


    I seldom pay attention to out of state prices and I'm not
    interested in a pissing contest over prices. BUT, just taking a quick
    look around here I found ounces for $8.33, before the 20% taxes. (No
    taxes for the people who have a medical marijuana card.) The claim is
    16.8% THC and 0.05% CBD. I can get you to 24.4% for $30/ounce. Today
    after a very quick look I can only get you to 24.8% for your $65 (before
    taxes, but with the store's discount). I think that price range usually
    tops out around 27%, plus or minus a percentage point.

    In case anyone missed it the first time I'll say it again. THC
    numbers are generally ridiculous. The pot shops obviously know this
    because there is not a direct correlation between the THC number and the
    price. Even though their THC numbers are nearly the same the effect of
    the 24.4% $30 ounce will probably be different than the effect of the
    24.8% $65 ounce. OTOH the more expensive stuff is not likely to be twice
    as good.

    TB

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