• Sweet Cakes by Melissa - again

    From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 13 12:29:00 2022
    "Oregon Labor Commissioner Val Hoyle announced Tuesday that she had
    slashed the penalty for Sweet Cakes by Melissa from $135,000 to $30,000
    in response to a Jan. 26 ruling by the Oregon Court of Appeals."

    "The long-running case began nine years ago, when Laurel and Rachel Bowman-Cryer filed a complaint against Sweet Cakes by Melissa owners
    Aaron and Melissa Klein, alleging the bakery refused to bake them a
    wedding cake upon learning the cake would be for a same-sex couple."

    https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2022/07/oregon-labor-commissioner-slashes-fine-for-bakery-that-refused-to-sell-same-sex-wedding-cake.html

    TB

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Wed Jul 13 18:55:52 2022
    On 7/13/2022 12:29 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Oregon Labor Commissioner Val Hoyle announced Tuesday that she had
    slashed the penalty for Sweet Cakes by Melissa from $135,000 to $30,000
    in response to a Jan. 26 ruling by the Oregon Court of Appeals."

    "The long-running case began nine years ago, when Laurel and Rachel Bowman-Cryer filed a complaint against Sweet Cakes by Melissa owners
    Aaron and Melissa Klein, alleging the bakery refused to bake them a
    wedding cake upon learning the cake would be for a same-sex couple."

    https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2022/07/oregon-labor-commissioner-slashes-fine-for-bakery-that-refused-to-sell-same-sex-wedding-cake.html


    TB

    Still a hefty fine for a small business.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to kmiller on Thu Jul 14 07:53:11 2022
    On 7/13/2022 6:55 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 7/13/2022 12:29 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Oregon Labor Commissioner Val Hoyle announced Tuesday that she had
    slashed the penalty for Sweet Cakes by Melissa from $135,000 to
    $30,000 in response to a Jan. 26 ruling by the Oregon Court of Appeals."

    "The long-running case began nine years ago, when Laurel and Rachel
    Bowman-Cryer filed a complaint against Sweet Cakes by Melissa owners
    Aaron and Melissa Klein, alleging the bakery refused to bake them a
    wedding cake upon learning the cake would be for a same-sex couple."

    https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2022/07/oregon-labor-commissioner-slashes-fine-for-bakery-that-refused-to-sell-same-sex-wedding-cake.html


    TB

    Still a hefty fine for a small business.

    Yep, the negative publicity alone would have probably been enough
    to kill the business. Mr. Melissa did not help himself by immediately
    going on talk radio to complain about the way he was being horribly
    mistreated, and disclose the names and address of the couple who made
    the complaint--insuring maximum harassment for them. If they ever pay a
    fine it will come from donations, with a hefty sum left over. Their
    lawyers are working for free and vow to fight on.

    TB

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Jul 14 18:30:24 2022
    On 7/14/2022 7:53 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/13/2022 6:55 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 7/13/2022 12:29 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Oregon Labor Commissioner Val Hoyle announced Tuesday that she had
    slashed the penalty for Sweet Cakes by Melissa from $135,000 to
    $30,000 in response to a Jan. 26 ruling by the Oregon Court of Appeals." >>>
    "The long-running case began nine years ago, when Laurel and Rachel
    Bowman-Cryer filed a complaint against Sweet Cakes by Melissa owners
    Aaron and Melissa Klein, alleging the bakery refused to bake them a
    wedding cake upon learning the cake would be for a same-sex couple."

    https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2022/07/oregon-labor-commissioner-slashes-fine-for-bakery-that-refused-to-sell-same-sex-wedding-cake.html


    TB

    Still a hefty fine for a small business.

         Yep, the negative publicity alone would have probably been enough to kill the business. Mr. Melissa did not help himself by immediately
    going on talk radio to complain about the way he was being horribly mistreated, and disclose the names and address of the couple who made
    the complaint--insuring maximum harassment for them. If they ever pay a
    fine it will come from donations, with a hefty sum left over. Their
    lawyers are working for free and vow to fight on.

    TB

    The orange goon oughta hire their lawyers! HawHawHaw!

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to kmiller on Fri Jul 15 08:46:40 2022
    On 7/14/2022 6:30 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 7/14/2022 7:53 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/13/2022 6:55 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 7/13/2022 12:29 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Oregon Labor Commissioner Val Hoyle announced Tuesday that she had
    slashed the penalty for Sweet Cakes by Melissa from $135,000 to
    $30,000 in response to a Jan. 26 ruling by the Oregon Court of
    Appeals."

    "The long-running case began nine years ago, when Laurel and Rachel
    Bowman-Cryer filed a complaint against Sweet Cakes by Melissa owners
    Aaron and Melissa Klein, alleging the bakery refused to bake them a
    wedding cake upon learning the cake would be for a same-sex couple."

    https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2022/07/oregon-labor-commissioner-slashes-fine-for-bakery-that-refused-to-sell-same-sex-wedding-cake.html


    TB

    Still a hefty fine for a small business.

          Yep, the negative publicity alone would have probably been
    enough to kill the business. Mr. Melissa did not help himself by
    immediately going on talk radio to complain about the way he was being
    horribly mistreated, and disclose the names and address of the couple
    who made the complaint--insuring maximum harassment for them. If they
    ever pay a fine it will come from donations, with a hefty sum left
    over. Their lawyers are working for free and vow to fight on.

    TB

    The orange goon oughta hire their lawyers! HawHawHaw!

    eh, Both teams seem to be equally good at stalling. I'm sure the
    orange outrage's lawyers work hard for their money. I don't think Rudy
    ever got paid for his work. The orange outrage's current lawyers are
    probably keeping a close eye on the money.

    Mr. and Mrs. Sweet Cakes' lawyers? Not so much. They're shuffling a
    few papers for the publicity. So they're in no rush. And they get paid,
    win, lose, or draw. This organization is providing the lawyers for Mr.
    and Mrs. Sweet Cakes:

    https://firstliberty.org/about-us/

    "First Liberty Institute is the largest legal organization in the nation dedicated exclusively to defending religious liberty for all Americans.
    We believe that every American of any faith—or no faith at all—has a fundamental right to follow their conscience and live according to their beliefs."

    Sweet Cakes from their point of view.

    https://firstliberty.org/cases/kleins/

    I think that "business" was doomed from the start. These were
    amateurs who didn't realize that making the cakes is the easy part of
    the business. If you want to make a living selling expensive cakes the
    really hard part of the business is the work and money involved in
    selling those cakes. The people who make a living selling wedding cakes
    give away far more cake at bridal events than they actually sell.

    TB

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