• Time of Use Pricing

    From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 7 17:49:46 2022
    I got an email from the electrical company. They made an offer I
    could refuse. I was paying a fixed rate, no matter what time I used the
    power, and I can go back to that anytime I want (for now). They said
    that if I didn't change my ways "time of use pricing" would save me
    about $45 a year, mostly during the Winter. This time of year I would go
    back and forth saving a little or losing a little--if I don't change my
    ways. Some of the "savings" will come from heating the house in the
    middle of the night during the Winter, when electricity will cost almost nothing. We cam easily shift some of our usage for more savings.

    "Time of Use Pricing
    For Residential
    Pricing periods
    Time of Use pricing is different for different times of the day. We call
    these periods:

    On-peak (times when demand is high)

    Mid-peak

    Off-peak (times when demand is low)

    Your bill includes these electricity charges plus other charges that
    apply to all PGE customers, such as a basic charge, distribution charge
    and supplemental adjustments. See the for more information on all the
    charges included on your bill.

    Time of Use rates also include a 0.36 cent per kWh credit for the first
    1,000 kWh used. This credit is not applicable to separately metered
    Electric Vehicle Time of Use option.

    Time of Use period
    Time of Use price
    Basic Service price
    On-peak

    22.22 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Mid-peak

    16.85 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Off-peak

    4.12 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh"

    Except for the 4 coldest months of the year we're always under
    1,000 Kwh. I don't try to heat or cool the whole place any time of year.
    I just have comfort zones, depending on the time of day and the weather.
    The weather has been very comfortable lately, so we haven't been heating
    or cooling. I expect that to change soon.

    They offer a not really guarantee that during the first year this
    won't raise my bill by more than 10%. If I does they'll refund the difference--over that 10%. They're supposed to let me know how we're doin'.

    TB

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to Don Lampson on Thu Jul 7 18:57:09 2022
    On 7/7/2022 6:30 PM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 5:49:50 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    I got an email from the electrical company. They made an offer I
    could refuse. I was paying a fixed rate, no matter what time I used the
    power, and I can go back to that anytime I want (for now). They said
    that if I didn't change my ways "time of use pricing" would save me
    about $45 a year, mostly during the Winter. This time of year I would go
    back and forth saving a little or losing a little--if I don't change my
    ways. Some of the "savings" will come from heating the house in the
    middle of the night during the Winter, when electricity will cost almost
    nothing. We cam easily shift some of our usage for more savings.

    "Time of Use Pricing
    For Residential
    Pricing periods
    Time of Use pricing is different for different times of the day. We call
    these periods:

    On-peak (times when demand is high)

    Mid-peak

    Off-peak (times when demand is low)

    Your bill includes these electricity charges plus other charges that
    apply to all PGE customers, such as a basic charge, distribution charge
    and supplemental adjustments. See the for more information on all the
    charges included on your bill.

    Time of Use rates also include a 0.36 cent per kWh credit for the first
    1,000 kWh used. This credit is not applicable to separately metered
    Electric Vehicle Time of Use option.

    Time of Use period
    Time of Use price
    Basic Service price
    On-peak

    22.22 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Mid-peak

    16.85 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Off-peak

    4.12 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh"

    Except for the 4 coldest months of the year we're always under
    1,000 Kwh. I don't try to heat or cool the whole place any time of year.
    I just have comfort zones, depending on the time of day and the weather.
    The weather has been very comfortable lately, so we haven't been heating
    or cooling. I expect that to change soon.

    They offer a not really guarantee that during the first year this
    won't raise my bill by more than 10%. If I does they'll refund the
    difference--over that 10%. They're supposed to let me know how we're doin'. >>
    TB

    The juice monopoly is just seeking another way of billing, to put "La Chinga" to you! I expect the other "Big Power Outfits", will soon follow suit.. Alternative sources are becoming a serious threat to them, with their huge fines to pay......

    Lt. Columbo

    Ummmm....., around here that would probably be the morally
    superior "renewable" energy. That's all water over the dam, or something
    like that, and costs extra.

    TB

    "When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've
    never tried before." Mae West

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  • From Don Lampson@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Jul 7 18:30:09 2022
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 5:49:50 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    I got an email from the electrical company. They made an offer I
    could refuse. I was paying a fixed rate, no matter what time I used the power, and I can go back to that anytime I want (for now). They said
    that if I didn't change my ways "time of use pricing" would save me
    about $45 a year, mostly during the Winter. This time of year I would go back and forth saving a little or losing a little--if I don't change my ways. Some of the "savings" will come from heating the house in the
    middle of the night during the Winter, when electricity will cost almost nothing. We cam easily shift some of our usage for more savings.

    "Time of Use Pricing
    For Residential
    Pricing periods
    Time of Use pricing is different for different times of the day. We call these periods:

    On-peak (times when demand is high)

    Mid-peak

    Off-peak (times when demand is low)

    Your bill includes these electricity charges plus other charges that
    apply to all PGE customers, such as a basic charge, distribution charge
    and supplemental adjustments. See the for more information on all the charges included on your bill.

    Time of Use rates also include a 0.36 cent per kWh credit for the first 1,000 kWh used. This credit is not applicable to separately metered
    Electric Vehicle Time of Use option.

    Time of Use period
    Time of Use price
    Basic Service price
    On-peak

    22.22 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Mid-peak

    16.85 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Off-peak

    4.12 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh"

    Except for the 4 coldest months of the year we're always under
    1,000 Kwh. I don't try to heat or cool the whole place any time of year.
    I just have comfort zones, depending on the time of day and the weather.
    The weather has been very comfortable lately, so we haven't been heating
    or cooling. I expect that to change soon.

    They offer a not really guarantee that during the first year this
    won't raise my bill by more than 10%. If I does they'll refund the difference--over that 10%. They're supposed to let me know how we're doin'.

    TB

    The juice monopoly is just seeking another way of billing, to put "La Chinga" to you! I expect the other "Big Power Outfits", will soon follow suit.. Alternative sources are becoming a serious threat to them, with their huge fines to pay......

    Lt. Columbo

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Jul 7 19:31:19 2022
    On 7/7/2022 6:57 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/7/2022 6:30 PM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 5:49:50 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    I got an email from the electrical company. They made an offer I
    could refuse. I was paying a fixed rate, no matter what time I used the
    power, and I can go back to that anytime I want (for now). They said
    that if I didn't change my ways "time of use pricing" would save me
    about $45 a year, mostly during the Winter. This time of year I would go >>> back and forth saving a little or losing a little--if I don't change my
    ways. Some of the "savings" will come from heating the house in the
    middle of the night during the Winter, when electricity will cost almost >>> nothing. We cam easily shift some of our usage for more savings.

    "Time of Use Pricing
    For Residential
    Pricing periods
    Time of Use pricing is different for different times of the day. We call >>> these periods:

    On-peak (times when demand is high)

    Mid-peak

    Off-peak (times when demand is low)

    Your bill includes these electricity charges plus other charges that
    apply to all PGE customers, such as a basic charge, distribution charge
    and supplemental adjustments. See the for more information on all the
    charges included on your bill.

    Time of Use rates also include a 0.36 cent per kWh credit for the first
    1,000 kWh used. This credit is not applicable to separately metered
    Electric Vehicle Time of Use option.

    Time of Use period
    Time of Use price
    Basic Service price
    On-peak

    22.22 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Mid-peak

    16.85 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Off-peak

    4.12 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh"

    Except for the 4 coldest months of the year we're always under
    1,000 Kwh. I don't try to heat or cool the whole place any time of year. >>> I just have comfort zones, depending on the time of day and the weather. >>> The weather has been very comfortable lately, so we haven't been heating >>> or cooling. I expect that to change soon.

    They offer a not really guarantee that during the first year this
    won't raise my bill by more than 10%. If I does they'll refund the
    difference--over that 10%. They're supposed to let me know how we're
    doin'.

    TB

    The juice monopoly is just seeking another way of billing,  to put "La
    Chinga" to you!  I expect the other "Big Power Outfits", will soon
    follow suit..   Alternative sources are becoming a serious threat to
    them,  with their huge fines to pay......

    Lt. Columbo

         Ummmm....., around here that would probably be the morally
    superior "renewable" energy. That's all water over the dam, or something
    like that, and costs extra.

    TB

    "When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've
    never tried before." Mae West

    We have one of those damn liberal energy systems. Thanks to that hippie
    loving tree hugging "green" energy our power bill is $7.49 a month.

    --
    Liz Cheney for President!

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Jul 8 08:55:18 2022
    On 7/7/2022 8:57 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/7/2022 6:30 PM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 5:49:50 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    I got an email from the electrical company. They made an offer I
    could refuse. I was paying a fixed rate, no matter what time I used the
    power, and I can go back to that anytime I want (for now). They said
    that if I didn't change my ways "time of use pricing" would save me
    about $45 a year, mostly during the Winter. This time of year I would go >>> back and forth saving a little or losing a little--if I don't change my
    ways. Some of the "savings" will come from heating the house in the
    middle of the night during the Winter, when electricity will cost almost >>> nothing. We cam easily shift some of our usage for more savings.

    "Time of Use Pricing
    For Residential
    Pricing periods
    Time of Use pricing is different for different times of the day. We call >>> these periods:

    On-peak (times when demand is high)

    Mid-peak

    Off-peak (times when demand is low)

    Your bill includes these electricity charges plus other charges that
    apply to all PGE customers, such as a basic charge, distribution charge
    and supplemental adjustments. See the for more information on all the
    charges included on your bill.

    Time of Use rates also include a 0.36 cent per kWh credit for the first
    1,000 kWh used. This credit is not applicable to separately metered
    Electric Vehicle Time of Use option.

    Time of Use period
    Time of Use price
    Basic Service price
    On-peak

    22.22 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Mid-peak

    16.85 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Off-peak

    4.12 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh"

    Except for the 4 coldest months of the year we're always under
    1,000 Kwh. I don't try to heat or cool the whole place any time of year. >>> I just have comfort zones, depending on the time of day and the weather. >>> The weather has been very comfortable lately, so we haven't been heating >>> or cooling. I expect that to change soon.

    They offer a not really guarantee that during the first year this
    won't raise my bill by more than 10%. If I does they'll refund the
    difference--over that 10%. They're supposed to let me know how we're
    doin'.

    TB

    The juice monopoly is just seeking another way of billing,  to put "La
    Chinga" to you!  I expect the other "Big Power Outfits", will soon
    follow suit..   Alternative sources are becoming a serious threat to
    them,  with their huge fines to pay......

    Lt. Columbo

         Ummmm....., around here that would probably be the morally
    superior "renewable" energy. That's all water over the dam, or something
    like that, and costs extra.

    TB

    "When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've
    never tried before." Mae West

    $45/year. That should keep you out of the poor house.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Fri Jul 8 09:32:27 2022
    On 7/8/2022 6:55 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    On 7/7/2022 8:57 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/7/2022 6:30 PM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 5:49:50 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    I got an email from the electrical company. They made an offer I
    could refuse. I was paying a fixed rate, no matter what time I used the >>>> power, and I can go back to that anytime I want (for now). They said
    that if I didn't change my ways "time of use pricing" would save me
    about $45 a year, mostly during the Winter. This time of year I
    would go
    back and forth saving a little or losing a little--if I don't change my >>>> ways. Some of the "savings" will come from heating the house in the
    middle of the night during the Winter, when electricity will cost
    almost
    nothing. We cam easily shift some of our usage for more savings.

    "Time of Use Pricing
    For Residential
    Pricing periods
    Time of Use pricing is different for different times of the day. We
    call
    these periods:

    On-peak (times when demand is high)

    Mid-peak

    Off-peak (times when demand is low)

    Your bill includes these electricity charges plus other charges that
    apply to all PGE customers, such as a basic charge, distribution charge >>>> and supplemental adjustments. See the for more information on all the
    charges included on your bill.

    Time of Use rates also include a 0.36 cent per kWh credit for the first >>>> 1,000 kWh used. This credit is not applicable to separately metered
    Electric Vehicle Time of Use option.

    Time of Use period
    Time of Use price
    Basic Service price
    On-peak

    22.22 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Mid-peak

    16.85 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Off-peak

    4.12 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh"

    Except for the 4 coldest months of the year we're always under
    1,000 Kwh. I don't try to heat or cool the whole place any time of
    year.
    I just have comfort zones, depending on the time of day and the
    weather.
    The weather has been very comfortable lately, so we haven't been
    heating
    or cooling. I expect that to change soon.

    They offer a not really guarantee that during the first year this
    won't raise my bill by more than 10%. If I does they'll refund the
    difference--over that 10%. They're supposed to let me know how we're
    doin'.

    TB

    The juice monopoly is just seeking another way of billing,  to put
    "La Chinga" to you!  I expect the other "Big Power Outfits", will
    soon follow suit..   Alternative sources are becoming a serious
    threat to them,  with their huge fines to pay......

    Lt. Columbo

          Ummmm....., around here that would probably be the morally
    superior "renewable" energy. That's all water over the dam, or
    something like that, and costs extra.

    TB

    "When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've
    never tried before." Mae West

    $45/year. That should keep you out of the poor house.


    Economics 101, for dumb shits: The easiest way to make money is by
    not spending it. $45/year for a few minutes reading and a few mouse
    clicks works out to around $1,000/hour this year alone, with no further
    effort required, year after year. With a little effort I can save even
    more. I wasn't expecting any presents from the power company. When they
    want more money *that* isn't news.

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Jul 8 17:41:28 2022
    Technobarbarian <technobarbarian-ztopzpam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/8/2022 6:55 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    On 7/7/2022 8:57 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/7/2022 6:30 PM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 5:49:50 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>> I got an email from the electrical company. They made an offer I
    could refuse. I was paying a fixed rate, no matter what time I used the >>>>> power, and I can go back to that anytime I want (for now). They said >>>>> that if I didn't change my ways "time of use pricing" would save me
    about $45 a year, mostly during the Winter. This time of year I
    would go
    back and forth saving a little or losing a little--if I don't change my >>>>> ways. Some of the "savings" will come from heating the house in the
    middle of the night during the Winter, when electricity will cost
    almost
    nothing. We cam easily shift some of our usage for more savings.

    "Time of Use Pricing
    For Residential
    Pricing periods
    Time of Use pricing is different for different times of the day. We
    call
    these periods:

    On-peak (times when demand is high)

    Mid-peak

    Off-peak (times when demand is low)

    Your bill includes these electricity charges plus other charges that >>>>> apply to all PGE customers, such as a basic charge, distribution charge >>>>> and supplemental adjustments. See the for more information on all the >>>>> charges included on your bill.

    Time of Use rates also include a 0.36 cent per kWh credit for the first >>>>> 1,000 kWh used. This credit is not applicable to separately metered
    Electric Vehicle Time of Use option.

    Time of Use period
    Time of Use price
    Basic Service price
    On-peak

    22.22 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Mid-peak

    16.85 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Off-peak

    4.12 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh"

    Except for the 4 coldest months of the year we're always under
    1,000 Kwh. I don't try to heat or cool the whole place any time of
    year.
    I just have comfort zones, depending on the time of day and the
    weather.
    The weather has been very comfortable lately, so we haven't been
    heating
    or cooling. I expect that to change soon.

    They offer a not really guarantee that during the first year this
    won't raise my bill by more than 10%. If I does they'll refund the
    difference--over that 10%. They're supposed to let me know how we're >>>>> doin'.

    TB

    The juice monopoly is just seeking another way of billing,  to put
    "La Chinga" to you!  I expect the other "Big Power Outfits", will
    soon follow suit..   Alternative sources are becoming a serious
    threat to them,  with their huge fines to pay......

    Lt. Columbo

          Ummmm....., around here that would probably be the morally
    superior "renewable" energy. That's all water over the dam, or
    something like that, and costs extra.

    TB

    "When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've
    never tried before." Mae West

    $45/year. That should keep you out of the poor house.


    Economics 101, for dumb shits: The easiest way to make money is by
    not spending it. $45/year for a few minutes reading and a few mouse
    clicks works out to around $1,000/hour this year alone, with no further effort required, year after year. With a little effort I can save even
    more. I wasn't expecting any presents from the power company. When they
    want more money *that* isn't news.

    TB


    “…if I didn't change my ways "time of use pricing" would save me about $45 a year”

    How does $45/year equate to $1000/hour. That’s more like $00.005/hour. Let’s see, 8760 hours in a year times $1000 equals $8.76 million dollars a year. You are really saving the money now. No wonder Bidenflation doesn’t worry you.

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    A great civilization cannot be conquered from without until it has
    destroyed itself from within - Will Durant

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Fri Jul 8 14:20:06 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/7/2022 6:57 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/7/2022 6:30 PM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 5:49:50 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    I got an email from the electrical company. They made an offer I
    could refuse. I was paying a fixed rate, no matter what time I
    used the
    power, and I can go back to that anytime I want (for now). They said
    that if I didn't change my ways "time of use pricing" would save me
    about $45 a year, mostly during the Winter. This time of year I
    would go
    back and forth saving a little or losing a little--if I don't
    change my
    ways. Some of the "savings" will come from heating the house in the
    middle of the night during the Winter, when electricity will cost
    almost
    nothing. We cam easily shift some of our usage for more savings.

    "Time of Use Pricing
    For Residential
    Pricing periods
    Time of Use pricing is different for different times of the day.
    We call
    these periods:

    On-peak (times when demand is high)

    Mid-peak

    Off-peak (times when demand is low)

    Your bill includes these electricity charges plus other charges that
    apply to all PGE customers, such as a basic charge, distribution
    charge
    and supplemental adjustments. See the for more information on all the
    charges included on your bill.

    Time of Use rates also include a 0.36 cent per kWh credit for the
    first
    1,000 kWh used. This credit is not applicable to separately metered
    Electric Vehicle Time of Use option.

    Time of Use period
    Time of Use price
    Basic Service price
    On-peak

    22.22 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Mid-peak

    16.85 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Off-peak

    4.12 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh"

    Except for the 4 coldest months of the year we're always under
    1,000 Kwh. I don't try to heat or cool the whole place any time of
    year.
    I just have comfort zones, depending on the time of day and the
    weather.
    The weather has been very comfortable lately, so we haven't been
    heating
    or cooling. I expect that to change soon.

    They offer a not really guarantee that during the first year this
    won't raise my bill by more than 10%. If I does they'll refund the
    difference--over that 10%. They're supposed to let me know how
    we're doin'.

    TB

    The juice monopoly is just seeking another way of billing,  to put
    "La Chinga" to you!  I expect the other "Big Power Outfits", will
    soon follow suit..   Alternative sources are becoming a serious
    threat to them,  with their huge fines to pay......

    Lt. Columbo

     Â Â Â Â  Ummmm....., around here that would probably be the morally
    superior "renewable" energy. That's all water over the dam, or
    something like that, and costs extra.

    TB

    "When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've
    never tried before." Mae West

    We have one of those damn liberal energy systems. Thanks to that
    hippie loving tree hugging "green" energy our power bill is $7.49 a
    month.

    Power bill: You lucky bastard.
    Living on the left coast: You unlucky bastard.

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Fri Jul 8 13:42:29 2022
    On 7/8/2022 11:20 AM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/7/2022 6:57 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/7/2022 6:30 PM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 5:49:50 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>> I got an email from the electrical company. They made an offer I
    could refuse. I was paying a fixed rate, no matter what time I used
    the
    power, and I can go back to that anytime I want (for now). They said >>>>> that if I didn't change my ways "time of use pricing" would save me
    about $45 a year, mostly during the Winter. This time of year I
    would go
    back and forth saving a little or losing a little--if I don't
    change my
    ways. Some of the "savings" will come from heating the house in the
    middle of the night during the Winter, when electricity will cost
    almost
    nothing. We cam easily shift some of our usage for more savings.

    "Time of Use Pricing
    For Residential
    Pricing periods
    Time of Use pricing is different for different times of the day. We
    call
    these periods:

    On-peak (times when demand is high)

    Mid-peak

    Off-peak (times when demand is low)

    Your bill includes these electricity charges plus other charges that >>>>> apply to all PGE customers, such as a basic charge, distribution
    charge
    and supplemental adjustments. See the for more information on all the >>>>> charges included on your bill.

    Time of Use rates also include a 0.36 cent per kWh credit for the
    first
    1,000 kWh used. This credit is not applicable to separately metered
    Electric Vehicle Time of Use option.

    Time of Use period
    Time of Use price
    Basic Service price
    On-peak

    22.22 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Mid-peak

    16.85 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Off-peak

    4.12 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh" >>>>>
    Except for the 4 coldest months of the year we're always under
    1,000 Kwh. I don't try to heat or cool the whole place any time of
    year.
    I just have comfort zones, depending on the time of day and the
    weather.
    The weather has been very comfortable lately, so we haven't been
    heating
    or cooling. I expect that to change soon.

    They offer a not really guarantee that during the first year this
    won't raise my bill by more than 10%. If I does they'll refund the
    difference--over that 10%. They're supposed to let me know how
    we're doin'.

    TB

    The juice monopoly is just seeking another way of billing,  to put
    "La Chinga" to you!  I expect the other "Big Power Outfits", will
    soon follow suit..   Alternative sources are becoming a serious
    threat to them,  with their huge fines to pay......

    Lt. Columbo

     Â Â Â Â  Ummmm....., around here that would probably be the morally
    superior "renewable" energy. That's all water over the dam, or
    something like that, and costs extra.

    TB

    "When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've
    never tried before." Mae West

    We have one of those damn liberal energy systems. Thanks to that
    hippie loving tree hugging "green" energy our power bill is $7.49 a
    month.

    Power bill: You lucky bastard.
    Living on the left coast: You unlucky bastard.

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    Ping ms 42

    I almost moved to Georgia when Raffensperger told the orange goon to go
    stuff his lost votes.

    132.84
    7.62
    32

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Fri Jul 8 19:53:36 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/8/2022 11:20 AM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/7/2022 6:57 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/7/2022 6:30 PM, Don Lampson wrote:
    On Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 5:49:50 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian
    wrote:
    I got an email from the electrical company. They made an offer I
    could refuse. I was paying a fixed rate, no matter what time I
    used the
    power, and I can go back to that anytime I want (for now). They
    said
    that if I didn't change my ways "time of use pricing" would save me >>>>>> about $45 a year, mostly during the Winter. This time of year I
    would go
    back and forth saving a little or losing a little--if I don't
    change my
    ways. Some of the "savings" will come from heating the house in the >>>>>> middle of the night during the Winter, when electricity will
    cost almost
    nothing. We cam easily shift some of our usage for more savings.

    "Time of Use Pricing
    For Residential
    Pricing periods
    Time of Use pricing is different for different times of the day.
    We call
    these periods:

    On-peak (times when demand is high)

    Mid-peak

    Off-peak (times when demand is low)

    Your bill includes these electricity charges plus other charges
    that
    apply to all PGE customers, such as a basic charge, distribution
    charge
    and supplemental adjustments. See the for more information on
    all the
    charges included on your bill.

    Time of Use rates also include a 0.36 cent per kWh credit for
    the first
    1,000 kWh used. This credit is not applicable to separately metered >>>>>> Electric Vehicle Time of Use option.

    Time of Use period
    Time of Use price
    Basic Service price
    On-peak

    22.22 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Mid-peak

    16.85 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Off-peak

    4.12 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per
    kWh"

    Except for the 4 coldest months of the year we're always under
    1,000 Kwh. I don't try to heat or cool the whole place any time
    of year.
    I just have comfort zones, depending on the time of day and the
    weather.
    The weather has been very comfortable lately, so we haven't been
    heating
    or cooling. I expect that to change soon.

    They offer a not really guarantee that during the first year this
    won't raise my bill by more than 10%. If I does they'll refund the >>>>>> difference--over that 10%. They're supposed to let me know how
    we're doin'.

    TB

    The juice monopoly is just seeking another way of billing,  to >>>>> put "La Chinga" to you!  I expect the other "Big Power
    Outfits", will soon follow suit..   Alternative sources are
    becoming a serious threat to them,  with their huge fines to >>>>> pay......

    Lt. Columbo

     Â Â Â Â  Ummmm....., around here that would probably be
    the morally superior "renewable" energy. That's all water over the
    dam, or something like that, and costs extra.

    TB

    "When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one
    I've never tried before." Mae West

    We have one of those damn liberal energy systems. Thanks to that
    hippie loving tree hugging "green" energy our power bill is $7.49 a
    month.

    Power bill: You lucky bastard.
    Living on the left coast: You unlucky bastard.

    Download Mbps
    41.06
    Upload Mbps
    9.27
    Ping ms 42

    I almost moved to Georgia when Raffensperger told the orange goon to
    go stuff his lost votes.

    132.84
    7.62
    32

    damn. It's been a couple of weeks since I've seen 132 or better.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From dm_callier@21:1/5 to Ralph E Lindberg on Mon Jul 11 09:21:33 2022
    On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:28:29 AM UTC-7, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
    <snip>
    PSE and Seattle City Light both tried this a couple years ago, I know
    PSE stopped and I think Seattle did also.

    PGE started a similar program a few months ago here in NorCal. I doubt it's going to make much difference at our house. I did note that we're paying about 3X more per KWH than folks in Oregon. Our electrons must be a lot classier, or maybe they're just
    better negotiators...

    Enjoy the day,
    dmc

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to Ralph E Lindberg on Mon Jul 11 09:31:54 2022
    On 7/11/2022 7:28 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
    On 2022-07-08 00:49:46 +0000, Technobarbarian said:

         I got an email from the electrical company. They made an offer I
    could refuse. I was paying a fixed rate, no matter what time I used
    the power, and I can go back to that anytime I want (for now). They
    said that if I didn't change my ways "time of use pricing" would save
    me about $45 a year, mostly during the Winter. This time of year I
    would go back and forth saving a little or losing a little--if I don't
    change my ways. Some of the "savings" will come from heating the house
    in the middle of the night during the Winter, when electricity will
    cost almost nothing. We cam easily shift some of our usage for more
    savings.

    "Time of Use Pricing
    For Residential
    Pricing periods
    Time of Use pricing is different for different times of the day. We
    call these periods:

    On-peak (times when demand is high)

    Mid-peak

    Off-peak (times when demand is low)

    Your bill includes these electricity charges plus other charges that
    apply to all PGE customers, such as a basic charge, distribution
    charge and supplemental adjustments. See the  for more information on
    all the charges included on your bill.

    Time of Use rates also include a 0.36 cent per kWh credit for the
    first 1,000 kWh used. This credit is not applicable to separately
    metered Electric Vehicle Time of Use option.

    Time of Use period
    Time of Use price
    Basic Service price
    On-peak

    22.22 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Mid-peak

    16.85 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Off-peak

    4.12 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh"

         Except for the 4 coldest months of the year we're always under
    1,000 Kwh. I don't try to heat or cool the whole place any time of
    year. I just have comfort zones, depending on the time of day and the
    weather. The weather has been very comfortable lately, so we haven't
    been heating or cooling. I expect that to change soon.

         They offer a not really guarantee that during the first year this >> won't raise my bill by more than 10%. If I does they'll refund the
    difference--over that 10%. They're supposed to let me know how we're
    doin'.

    TB

    PSE and Seattle City Light both tried this a couple years ago,  I know
    PSE stopped and I think Seattle did also.



    Since you can switch pricing at any time it's hard to figure out how
    this will work out for PGE in the long run. They show you all the
    numbers. I could easily game the system by choosing my pricing based on
    the season. At this point I'm just experimenting to see if I can save a significant amount of money this time of year by watching when I use
    power. I already know I'll save money during the Winter.

    I worked for a low margin business years ago that had no choice.
    They were paying a lot of attention to when they used electricity.

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Tue Jul 12 03:05:46 2022
    Technobarbarian <technobarbarian-ztopzpam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/11/2022 7:28 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:
    On 2022-07-08 00:49:46 +0000, Technobarbarian said:

         I got an email from the electrical company. They made an offer I >>> could refuse. I was paying a fixed rate, no matter what time I used
    the power, and I can go back to that anytime I want (for now). They
    said that if I didn't change my ways "time of use pricing" would save
    me about $45 a year, mostly during the Winter. This time of year I
    would go back and forth saving a little or losing a little--if I don't
    change my ways. Some of the "savings" will come from heating the house
    in the middle of the night during the Winter, when electricity will
    cost almost nothing. We cam easily shift some of our usage for more
    savings.

    "Time of Use Pricing
    For Residential
    Pricing periods
    Time of Use pricing is different for different times of the day. We
    call these periods:

    On-peak (times when demand is high)

    Mid-peak

    Off-peak (times when demand is low)

    Your bill includes these electricity charges plus other charges that
    apply to all PGE customers, such as a basic charge, distribution
    charge and supplemental adjustments. See the  for more information on
    all the charges included on your bill.

    Time of Use rates also include a 0.36 cent per kWh credit for the
    first 1,000 kWh used. This credit is not applicable to separately
    metered Electric Vehicle Time of Use option.

    Time of Use period
    Time of Use price
    Basic Service price
    On-peak

    22.22 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Mid-peak

    16.85 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh

    Off-peak

    4.12 ¢ per kWh

    Up to 1000 kWh: 12.65 ¢ per kWh ; > 1000 kWh: 13.01 ¢ per kWh"

         Except for the 4 coldest months of the year we're always under
    1,000 Kwh. I don't try to heat or cool the whole place any time of
    year. I just have comfort zones, depending on the time of day and the
    weather. The weather has been very comfortable lately, so we haven't
    been heating or cooling. I expect that to change soon.

         They offer a not really guarantee that during the first year this >>> won't raise my bill by more than 10%. If I does they'll refund the
    difference--over that 10%. They're supposed to let me know how we're
    doin'.

    TB

    PSE and Seattle City Light both tried this a couple years ago,  I know
    PSE stopped and I think Seattle did also.



    Since you can switch pricing at any time it's hard to figure out how
    this will work out for PGE in the long run. They show you all the
    numbers. I could easily game the system by choosing my pricing based on
    the season. At this point I'm just experimenting to see if I can save a significant amount of money this time of year by watching when I use
    power. I already know I'll save money during the Winter.

    I worked for a low margin business years ago that had no choice.
    They were paying a lot of attention to when they used electricity.

    TB


    If you switch will you lose the $8.7mil/year?

    --
    A great civilization cannot be conquered from without until it has
    destroyed itself from within - Will Durant

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