You’ll soon need a reservation to visit Central Oregon’s Lava River Cave
"Your party will now be spelunked.
Starting Aug. 1, visitors to Lava River Cave will need to reserve a
parking space before exploring the mile-long lava tube south of Bend.
The cave is one of the most popular in Oregon, receiving around 70,000 visitors each year.
The crush of visitors has often led to long lines of cars backed up on
the roadway waiting to get in. Deschutes National Forest public affairs officer Jean Nelson-Dean said people would sometimes wait an hour or
more just to get into the small parking lot at the cave, creating safety hazards on the nearby road.
“We’re hoping that this timed reservation system will make it so people don’t have to sit there and wait,” Nelson-Dean said. “It makes it safer both for people on the road … and it’s safer for our employees as well.”
Lava River Cave is the latest in a growing list of natural spaces in
Oregon to require permits or reservations.
Motorists now need to purchase a permit to access Multnomah Falls and
the entire “waterfall corridor” of the Historic Columbia River Highway.
An increase in people attempting to summit Oregon’s tallest peak, Mount Hood, prompted the Forest Service to propose a $20 per person, per climb permit. That program could start next year, according to the Salem
Statesman Journal.
To ease overcrowding, the Forest Service also launched a permit program
last year limiting entry to some of the most popular trails in Central Oregon’s Mount Jefferson, Mount Washington and Three Sisters wilderness areas, including South Sister and Green Lakes near Bend."
[snip]
Green lakes is one of the many hiking trails outside of Bend that seems like a city park during the Summer. During the Winter you
generally need skis to get in there and it gets much quieter.
Geologists figure that there are hundreds of miles of lava tubes
in Central Oregon. They're usually only found when they break through to
the surface. They could reduce the crowding by finding and developing a
few more miles of cave.
TB
George.Anthony wrote:
On 7/7/2022 8:59 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
You’ll soon need a reservation to visit Central Oregon’s Lava >>> River Cave
"Your party will now be spelunked.
Starting Aug. 1, visitors to Lava River Cave will need to reserve a
parking space before exploring the mile-long lava tube south of Bend.
The cave is one of the most popular in Oregon, receiving around
70,000 visitors each year.
The crush of visitors has often led to long lines of cars backed up
on the roadway waiting to get in. Deschutes National Forest public
affairs officer Jean Nelson-Dean said people would sometimes wait an
hour or more just to get into the small parking lot at the cave,
creating safety hazards on the nearby road.
“We’re hoping that this timed reservation system will make it so
people don’t have to sit there and wait,†Nelson-Dean said. “It
makes it safer both for people on the road … and it’s safer for
our employees as well.â€
Lava River Cave is the latest in a growing list of natural spaces in
Oregon to require permits or reservations.
Motorists now need to purchase a permit to access Multnomah Falls and
the entire “waterfall corridor†of the Historic Columbia River >>> Highway.
An increase in people attempting to summit Oregon’s tallest peak, >>> Mount Hood, prompted the Forest Service to propose a $20 per person,
per climb permit. That program could start next year, according to
the Salem Statesman Journal.
To ease overcrowding, the Forest Service also launched a permit
program last year limiting entry to some of the most popular trails
in Central Oregon’s Mount Jefferson, Mount Washington and Three
Sisters wilderness areas, including South Sister and Green Lakes near
Bend."
[snip]
    Green lakes is one of the many hiking trails outside of >>> Bend that seems like a city park during the Summer. During the Winter
you generally need skis to get in there and it gets much quieter.
    Geologists figure that there are hundreds of miles of lava
tubes in Central Oregon. They're usually only found when they break
through to the surface. They could reduce the crowding by finding and
developing a few more miles of cave.
Or spend some Build Back Better money to enlarge the parking lot.
You're already in a cave, why not continue digging to help alleviate
the problem.
Not only that, but charging to climb Mt Hood is clear and present discrimination against poor people - they'll have to choose between
whether to buy bread and milk at Putin's inflated prices or pay to climb
a mountain.
On 7/7/2022 8:59 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
You’ll soon need a reservation to visit Central Oregon’s Lava >> River Cave
"Your party will now be spelunked.
Starting Aug. 1, visitors to Lava River Cave will need to reserve a
parking space before exploring the mile-long lava tube south of
Bend. The cave is one of the most popular in Oregon, receiving
around 70,000 visitors each year.
The crush of visitors has often led to long lines of cars backed up
on the roadway waiting to get in. Deschutes National Forest public
affairs officer Jean Nelson-Dean said people would sometimes wait an
hour or more just to get into the small parking lot at the cave,
creating safety hazards on the nearby road.
“We’re hoping that this timed reservation system will make it so
people don’t have to sit there and wait,†Nelson-Dean said.
“It makes it safer both for people on the road … and it’s
safer for our employees as well.â€
Lava River Cave is the latest in a growing list of natural spaces in
Oregon to require permits or reservations.
Motorists now need to purchase a permit to access Multnomah Falls
and the entire “waterfall corridor†of the Historic Columbia
River Highway.
An increase in people attempting to summit Oregon’s tallest peak,
Mount Hood, prompted the Forest Service to propose a $20 per person,
per climb permit. That program could start next year, according to
the Salem Statesman Journal.
To ease overcrowding, the Forest Service also launched a permit
program last year limiting entry to some of the most popular trails
in Central Oregon’s Mount Jefferson, Mount Washington and Three
Sisters wilderness areas, including South Sister and Green Lakes
near Bend."
[snip]
    Green lakes is one of the many hiking trails outside of >> Bend that seems like a city park during the Summer. During the
Winter you generally need skis to get in there and it gets much
quieter.
    Geologists figure that there are hundreds of miles of lava
tubes in Central Oregon. They're usually only found when they break
through to the surface. They could reduce the crowding by finding
and developing a few more miles of cave.
You're already in a cave, why not continue digging to help alleviate
the problem.
On 7/7/2022 9:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 7/7/2022 8:59 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
You’ll soon need a reservation to visit Central Oregon’s Lava
River Cave
"Your party will now be spelunked.
Starting Aug. 1, visitors to Lava River Cave will need to reserve a
parking space before exploring the mile-long lava tube south of
Bend. The cave is one of the most popular in Oregon, receiving
around 70,000 visitors each year.
The crush of visitors has often led to long lines of cars backed up
on the roadway waiting to get in. Deschutes National Forest public
affairs officer Jean Nelson-Dean said people would sometimes wait an
hour or more just to get into the small parking lot at the cave,
creating safety hazards on the nearby road.
“We’re hoping that this timed reservation system will make it so
people don’t have to sit there and wait,†Nelson-Dean said. >>>> “It makes it safer both for people on the road … and it’s
safer for our employees as well.â€
Lava River Cave is the latest in a growing list of natural spaces in
Oregon to require permits or reservations.
Motorists now need to purchase a permit to access Multnomah Falls
and the entire “waterfall corridor†of the Historic Columbia >>>> River Highway.
An increase in people attempting to summit Oregon’s tallest peak, >>>> Mount Hood, prompted the Forest Service to propose a $20 per person,
per climb permit. That program could start next year, according to
the Salem Statesman Journal.
To ease overcrowding, the Forest Service also launched a permit
program last year limiting entry to some of the most popular trails
in Central Oregon’s Mount Jefferson, Mount Washington and Three >>>> Sisters wilderness areas, including South Sister and Green Lakes
near Bend."
[snip]
    Green lakes is one of the many hiking trails outside of >>>> Bend that seems like a city park during the Summer. During the
Winter you generally need skis to get in there and it gets much
quieter.
    Geologists figure that there are hundreds of miles of lava
tubes in Central Oregon. They're usually only found when they break
through to the surface. They could reduce the crowding by finding
and developing a few more miles of cave.
Or spend some Build Back Better money to enlarge the parking lot.
You're already in a cave, why not continue digging to help alleviate
the problem.
Not only that, but charging to climb Mt Hood is clear and present
discrimination against poor people - they'll have to choose between
whether to buy bread and milk at Putin's inflated prices or pay to
climb a mountain.
"Mount Hood rescues have started early, worrying mountaineers"
"Broadcast: Wednesday, June 8"
"Mountain rescue doctors and volunteers have already undertaken eight
alpine rescue missions this year, in a normal year they just have a few. Rescue Mountaineer Christopher Van Tilburg says that increasing crowds, inexperienced climbers and access to equipment have changed who is
headed to Mount Hood. A single mission can take all night or last
multiple days. He wrote about his rescues for Outside magazine. Tilburg
joins us to share his experience as a rescue doctor and what makes this
year so different."
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/06/08/mt-hood-rescues-have-started-early-worrying-mountaineers/
"Dramatic moment a second climber is airlifted off Mount Hood in Oregon
in as many weeks after losing grip on his ice ax and falling as much as
700 feet
The man, a 43-year-old from the Portland suburb of Happy Valley, lost
his grip on his ice axe while climbing a ridge near the mountain's
11,000 foot summit on Saturday
The man was taken to a hospital in the Portland area. His condition is unknown at this time, but he reportedly suffered 'serious injuries'
The incident was the second fall in the same area of Mt. hood in as many weeks, following a 31-year-old woman's fall from the same location on
June 24"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10989041/Dramatic-moment-climber-airlifted-Mount-Hood-Oregon-falling-700-feet.html
All that drama has gotta be worth something.
"So they paved paradise
Put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique and a swingin' night spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone
They paved paradise put up a parking lot
They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum
And they charged all the people an arm and a leg just to see 'em"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM
TB
You’ll soon need a reservation to visit Central Oregon’s Lava River Cave
"Your party will now be spelunked.
Starting Aug. 1, visitors to Lava River Cave will need to reserve a
parking space before exploring the mile-long lava tube south of Bend.
The cave is one of the most popular in Oregon, receiving around 70,000 visitors each year.
The crush of visitors has often led to long lines of cars backed up on
the roadway waiting to get in. Deschutes National Forest public affairs officer Jean Nelson-Dean said people would sometimes wait an hour or
more just to get into the small parking lot at the cave, creating safety hazards on the nearby road.
“We’re hoping that this timed reservation system will make it so people don’t have to sit there and wait,” Nelson-Dean said. “It makes it safer
both for people on the road … and it’s safer for our employees as well.”
Lava River Cave is the latest in a growing list of natural spaces in
Oregon to require permits or reservations.
Motorists now need to purchase a permit to access Multnomah Falls and
the entire “waterfall corridor” of the Historic Columbia River Highway.
An increase in people attempting to summit Oregon’s tallest peak, Mount Hood, prompted the Forest Service to propose a $20 per person, per climb permit. That program could start next year, according to the Salem
Statesman Journal.
To ease overcrowding, the Forest Service also launched a permit program
last year limiting entry to some of the most popular trails in Central Oregon’s Mount Jefferson, Mount Washington and Three Sisters wilderness areas, including South Sister and Green Lakes near Bend."
[snip]
Green lakes is one of the many hiking trails outside of Bend that
seems like a city park during the Summer. During the Winter you
generally need skis to get in there and it gets much quieter.
Geologists figure that there are hundreds of miles of lava tubes
in Central Oregon. They're usually only found when they break through to
the surface. They could reduce the crowding by finding and developing a
few more miles of cave.
TB
On 7/7/2022 10:02 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 7/7/2022 9:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 7/7/2022 8:59 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
You’ll soon need a reservation to visit Central Oregon’s Lava
River Cave
"Your party will now be spelunked.
Starting Aug. 1, visitors to Lava River Cave will need to reserve a
parking space before exploring the mile-long lava tube south of
Bend. The cave is one of the most popular in Oregon, receiving
around 70,000 visitors each year.
The crush of visitors has often led to long lines of cars backed up
on the roadway waiting to get in. Deschutes National Forest public
affairs officer Jean Nelson-Dean said people would sometimes wait
an hour or more just to get into the small parking lot at the cave,
creating safety hazards on the nearby road.
“We’re hoping that this timed reservation system will make it
so people don’t have to sit there and wait,†Nelson-Dean said.
“It makes it safer both for people on the road … and it’s
safer for our employees as well.â€
Lava River Cave is the latest in a growing list of natural spaces
in Oregon to require permits or reservations.
Motorists now need to purchase a permit to access Multnomah Falls
and the entire “waterfall corridor†of the Historic Columbia >>>>> River Highway.
An increase in people attempting to summit Oregon’s tallest peak, >>>>> Mount Hood, prompted the Forest Service to propose a $20 per
person, per climb permit. That program could start next year,
according to the Salem Statesman Journal.
To ease overcrowding, the Forest Service also launched a permit
program last year limiting entry to some of the most popular trails
in Central Oregon’s Mount Jefferson, Mount Washington and Three >>>>> Sisters wilderness areas, including South Sister and Green Lakes
near Bend."
[snip]
    Green lakes is one of the many hiking trails outside of
Bend that seems like a city park during the Summer. During the
Winter you generally need skis to get in there and it gets much
quieter.
    Geologists figure that there are hundreds of miles of >>>>> lava tubes in Central Oregon. They're usually only found when they
break through to the surface. They could reduce the crowding by
finding and developing a few more miles of cave.
Or spend some Build Back Better money to enlarge the parking lot.
You're already in a cave, why not continue digging to help alleviate
the problem.
Not only that, but charging to climb Mt Hood is clear and present
discrimination against poor people - they'll have to choose between
whether to buy bread and milk at Putin's inflated prices or pay to
climb a mountain.
"Mount Hood rescues have started early, worrying mountaineers"
"Broadcast: Wednesday, June 8"
"Mountain rescue doctors and volunteers have already undertaken eight
alpine rescue missions this year, in a normal year they just have a
few. Rescue Mountaineer Christopher Van Tilburg says that increasing
crowds, inexperienced climbers and access to equipment have changed
who is headed to Mount Hood. A single mission can take all night or
last multiple days. He wrote about his rescues for Outside magazine.
Tilburg joins us to share his experience as a rescue doctor and what
makes this year so different."
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/06/08/mt-hood-rescues-have-started-early-worrying-mountaineers/
"Dramatic moment a second climber is airlifted off Mount Hood in
Oregon in as many weeks after losing grip on his ice ax and falling as
much as 700 feet
The man, a 43-year-old from the Portland suburb of Happy Valley, lost
his grip on his ice axe while climbing a ridge near the mountain's
11,000 foot summit on Saturday
The man was taken to a hospital in the Portland area. His condition is
unknown at this time, but he reportedly suffered 'serious injuries'
The incident was the second fall in the same area of Mt. hood in as
many weeks, following a 31-year-old woman's fall from the same
location on June 24"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10989041/Dramatic-moment-climber-airlifted-Mount-Hood-Oregon-falling-700-feet.html
All that drama has gotta be worth something.
"So they paved paradise
Put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique and a swingin' night spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone
They paved paradise put up a parking lot
They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum
And they charged all the people an arm and a leg just to see 'em"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM
TB
Quit playing that damn hippie-dippie music for bill. This is more his
style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XE8A2f1-nc
HawHawHaw!
On 7/7/2022 9:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 7/7/2022 8:59 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
You’ll soon need a reservation to visit Central Oregon’s Lava
River Cave
"Your party will now be spelunked.
Starting Aug. 1, visitors to Lava River Cave will need to reserve a
parking space before exploring the mile-long lava tube south of
Bend. The cave is one of the most popular in Oregon, receiving
around 70,000 visitors each year.
The crush of visitors has often led to long lines of cars backed up
on the roadway waiting to get in. Deschutes National Forest public
affairs officer Jean Nelson-Dean said people would sometimes wait an
hour or more just to get into the small parking lot at the cave,
creating safety hazards on the nearby road.
“We’re hoping that this timed reservation system will make it so
people don’t have to sit there and wait,†Nelson-Dean said. >>>> “It makes it safer both for people on the road … and it’s
safer for our employees as well.â€
Lava River Cave is the latest in a growing list of natural spaces in
Oregon to require permits or reservations.
Motorists now need to purchase a permit to access Multnomah Falls
and the entire “waterfall corridor†of the Historic Columbia >>>> River Highway.
An increase in people attempting to summit Oregon’s tallest peak, >>>> Mount Hood, prompted the Forest Service to propose a $20 per person,
per climb permit. That program could start next year, according to
the Salem Statesman Journal.
To ease overcrowding, the Forest Service also launched a permit
program last year limiting entry to some of the most popular trails
in Central Oregon’s Mount Jefferson, Mount Washington and Three >>>> Sisters wilderness areas, including South Sister and Green Lakes
near Bend."
[snip]
    Green lakes is one of the many hiking trails outside of >>>> Bend that seems like a city park during the Summer. During the
Winter you generally need skis to get in there and it gets much
quieter.
    Geologists figure that there are hundreds of miles of lava
tubes in Central Oregon. They're usually only found when they break
through to the surface. They could reduce the crowding by finding
and developing a few more miles of cave.
Or spend some Build Back Better money to enlarge the parking lot.
You're already in a cave, why not continue digging to help alleviate
the problem.
Not only that, but charging to climb Mt Hood is clear and present
discrimination against poor people - they'll have to choose between
whether to buy bread and milk at Putin's inflated prices or pay to
climb a mountain.
"Mount Hood rescues have started early, worrying mountaineers"
"Broadcast: Wednesday, June 8"
"Mountain rescue doctors and volunteers have already undertaken eight
alpine rescue missions this year, in a normal year they just have a few. Rescue Mountaineer Christopher Van Tilburg says that increasing crowds, inexperienced climbers and access to equipment have changed who is
headed to Mount Hood. A single mission can take all night or last
multiple days. He wrote about his rescues for Outside magazine. Tilburg
joins us to share his experience as a rescue doctor and what makes this
year so different."
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/06/08/mt-hood-rescues-have-started-early-worrying-mountaineers/
"Dramatic moment a second climber is airlifted off Mount Hood in Oregon
in as many weeks after losing grip on his ice ax and falling as much as
700 feet
The man, a 43-year-old from the Portland suburb of Happy Valley, lost
his grip on his ice axe while climbing a ridge near the mountain's
11,000 foot summit on Saturday
The man was taken to a hospital in the Portland area. His condition is unknown at this time, but he reportedly suffered 'serious injuries'
The incident was the second fall in the same area of Mt. hood in as many weeks, following a 31-year-old woman's fall from the same location on
June 24"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10989041/Dramatic-moment-climber-airlifted-Mount-Hood-Oregon-falling-700-feet.html
All that drama has gotta be worth something.
"So they paved paradise
Put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique and a swingin' night spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone
They paved paradise put up a parking lot
They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum
And they charged all the people an arm and a leg just to see 'em"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM
TB
On 7/7/2022 10:02 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 7/7/2022 9:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 7/7/2022 8:59 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
You’ll soon need a reservation to visit Central Oregon’s Lava
River Cave
"Your party will now be spelunked.
Starting Aug. 1, visitors to Lava River Cave will need to reserve a
parking space before exploring the mile-long lava tube south of
Bend. The cave is one of the most popular in Oregon, receiving
around 70,000 visitors each year.
The crush of visitors has often led to long lines of cars backed up
on the roadway waiting to get in. Deschutes National Forest public
affairs officer Jean Nelson-Dean said people would sometimes wait
an hour or more just to get into the small parking lot at the cave,
creating safety hazards on the nearby road.
“We’re hoping that this timed reservation system will make it
so people don’t have to sit there and wait,†Nelson-Dean said.
“It makes it safer both for people on the road … and it’s
safer for our employees as well.â€
Lava River Cave is the latest in a growing list of natural spaces
in Oregon to require permits or reservations.
Motorists now need to purchase a permit to access Multnomah Falls
and the entire “waterfall corridor†of the Historic Columbia >>>>> River Highway.
An increase in people attempting to summit Oregon’s tallest peak, >>>>> Mount Hood, prompted the Forest Service to propose a $20 per
person, per climb permit. That program could start next year,
according to the Salem Statesman Journal.
To ease overcrowding, the Forest Service also launched a permit
program last year limiting entry to some of the most popular trails
in Central Oregon’s Mount Jefferson, Mount Washington and Three >>>>> Sisters wilderness areas, including South Sister and Green Lakes
near Bend."
[snip]
    Green lakes is one of the many hiking trails outside of
Bend that seems like a city park during the Summer. During the
Winter you generally need skis to get in there and it gets much
quieter.
    Geologists figure that there are hundreds of miles of >>>>> lava tubes in Central Oregon. They're usually only found when they
break through to the surface. They could reduce the crowding by
finding and developing a few more miles of cave.
Or spend some Build Back Better money to enlarge the parking lot.
You're already in a cave, why not continue digging to help alleviate
the problem.
Not only that, but charging to climb Mt Hood is clear and present
discrimination against poor people - they'll have to choose between
whether to buy bread and milk at Putin's inflated prices or pay to
climb a mountain.
"Mount Hood rescues have started early, worrying mountaineers"
"Broadcast: Wednesday, June 8"
"Mountain rescue doctors and volunteers have already undertaken eight
alpine rescue missions this year, in a normal year they just have a
few. Rescue Mountaineer Christopher Van Tilburg says that increasing
crowds, inexperienced climbers and access to equipment have changed
who is headed to Mount Hood. A single mission can take all night or
last multiple days. He wrote about his rescues for Outside magazine.
Tilburg joins us to share his experience as a rescue doctor and what
makes this year so different."
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/06/08/mt-hood-rescues-have-started-early-worrying-mountaineers/
"Dramatic moment a second climber is airlifted off Mount Hood in
Oregon in as many weeks after losing grip on his ice ax and falling as
much as 700 feet
The man, a 43-year-old from the Portland suburb of Happy Valley, lost
his grip on his ice axe while climbing a ridge near the mountain's
11,000 foot summit on Saturday
The man was taken to a hospital in the Portland area. His condition is
unknown at this time, but he reportedly suffered 'serious injuries'
The incident was the second fall in the same area of Mt. hood in as
many weeks, following a 31-year-old woman's fall from the same
location on June 24"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10989041/Dramatic-moment-climber-airlifted-Mount-Hood-Oregon-falling-700-feet.html
All that drama has gotta be worth something.
"So they paved paradise
Put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique and a swingin' night spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone
They paved paradise put up a parking lot
They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum
And they charged all the people an arm and a leg just to see 'em"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM
TB
Quit playing that damn hippie-dippie music for bill. This is more his
style:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XE8A2f1-nc
HawHawHaw!
On 7/7/2022 12:02 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 7/7/2022 9:33 AM, bfh wrote:Maybe these are more suited to the wannabe climbers.
George.Anthony wrote:
On 7/7/2022 8:59 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
You’ll soon need a reservation to visit Central
Oregon’s Lava River Cave
"Your party will now be spelunked.
Starting Aug. 1, visitors to Lava River Cave will need to reserve
a parking space before exploring the mile-long lava tube south of
Bend. The cave is one of the most popular in Oregon, receiving
around 70,000 visitors each year.
The crush of visitors has often led to long lines of cars backed
up on the roadway waiting to get in. Deschutes National Forest
public affairs officer Jean Nelson-Dean said people would
sometimes wait an hour or more just to get into the small parking
lot at the cave, creating safety hazards on the nearby road.
“We’re hoping that this timed reservation system
will make it so people don’t have to sit there and >>>>> wait,†Nelson-Dean said. “It makes it safer both for
people on the road … and it’s safer for our
employees as well.â€Â
Lava River Cave is the latest in a growing list of natural spaces
in Oregon to require permits or reservations.
Motorists now need to purchase a permit to access Multnomah Falls
and the entire “waterfall corridor†of the Historic
Columbia River Highway.
An increase in people attempting to summit Oregon’s >>>>> tallest peak, Mount Hood, prompted the Forest Service to propose
a $20 per person, per climb permit. That program could start next
year, according to the Salem Statesman Journal.
To ease overcrowding, the Forest Service also launched a permit
program last year limiting entry to some of the most popular
trails in Central Oregon’s Mount Jefferson, Mount
Washington and Three Sisters wilderness areas, including South
Sister and Green Lakes near Bend."
[snip]
 Â Â Â Â Green lakes is one of the many hiking trails
outside of Bend that seems like a city park during the Summer.
During the Winter you generally need skis to get in there and it
gets much quieter.
 Â Â Â Â Geologists figure that there are hundreds of
miles of lava tubes in Central Oregon. They're usually only found
when they break through to the surface. They could reduce the
crowding by finding and developing a few more miles of cave.
Or spend some Build Back Better money to enlarge the parking lot.
You're already in a cave, why not continue digging to help
alleviate the problem.
Not only that, but charging to climb Mt Hood is clear and present
discrimination against poor people - they'll have to choose between
whether to buy bread and milk at Putin's inflated prices or pay to
climb a mountain.
"Mount Hood rescues have started early, worrying mountaineers"
"Broadcast: Wednesday, June 8"
"Mountain rescue doctors and volunteers have already undertaken
eight alpine rescue missions this year, in a normal year they just
have a few. Rescue Mountaineer Christopher Van Tilburg says that
increasing crowds, inexperienced climbers and access to equipment
have changed who is headed to Mount Hood. A single mission can take
all night or last multiple days. He wrote about his rescues for
Outside magazine. Tilburg joins us to share his experience as a
rescue doctor and what makes this year so different."
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/06/08/mt-hood-rescues-have-started-early-worrying-mountaineers/
"Dramatic moment a second climber is airlifted off Mount Hood in
Oregon in as many weeks after losing grip on his ice ax and falling
as much as 700 feet
The man, a 43-year-old from the Portland suburb of Happy Valley,
lost his grip on his ice axe while climbing a ridge near the
mountain's 11,000 foot summit on Saturday
The man was taken to a hospital in the Portland area. His condition
is unknown at this time, but he reportedly suffered 'serious injuries'
The incident was the second fall in the same area of Mt. hood in as
many weeks, following a 31-year-old woman's fall from the same
location on June 24"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10989041/Dramatic-moment-climber-airlifted-Mount-Hood-Oregon-falling-700-feet.html
    All that drama has gotta be worth something.
"So they paved paradise
Put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique and a swingin' night spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone
They paved paradise put up a parking lot
They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum
And they charged all the people an arm and a leg just to see 'em"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM
TB
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George.Anthony wrote:
On 7/7/2022 12:02 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On 7/7/2022 9:33 AM, bfh wrote:Maybe these are more suited to the wannabe climbers.
George.Anthony wrote:
On 7/7/2022 8:59 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
You’ll soon need a reservation to visit Central
Oregon’s Lava River Cave
"Your party will now be spelunked.
Starting Aug. 1, visitors to Lava River Cave will need to reserve
a parking space before exploring the mile-long lava tube south of
Bend. The cave is one of the most popular in Oregon, receiving
around 70,000 visitors each year.
The crush of visitors has often led to long lines of cars backed
up on the roadway waiting to get in. Deschutes National Forest
public affairs officer Jean Nelson-Dean said people would
sometimes wait an hour or more just to get into the small parking
lot at the cave, creating safety hazards on the nearby road.
“We’re hoping that this timed reservation system will
make it so people don’t have to sit there and wait,â€Â
Nelson-Dean said. “It makes it safer both for people on the
road … and it’s safer for our employees as well.â€Â
Lava River Cave is the latest in a growing list of natural spaces
in Oregon to require permits or reservations.
Motorists now need to purchase a permit to access Multnomah Falls
and the entire “waterfall corridor†of the Historic
Columbia River Highway.
An increase in people attempting to summit Oregon’s tallest
peak, Mount Hood, prompted the Forest Service to propose a $20 per >>>>>> person, per climb permit. That program could start next year,
according to the Salem Statesman Journal.
To ease overcrowding, the Forest Service also launched a permit
program last year limiting entry to some of the most popular
trails in Central Oregon’s Mount Jefferson, Mount >>>>>> Washington and Three Sisters wilderness areas, including South
Sister and Green Lakes near Bend."
[snip]
 Â Â Â Â Green lakes is one of the many hiking trails
outside of Bend that seems like a city park during the Summer.
During the Winter you generally need skis to get in there and it
gets much quieter.
 Â Â Â Â Geologists figure that there are hundreds of
miles of lava tubes in Central Oregon. They're usually only found
when they break through to the surface. They could reduce the
crowding by finding and developing a few more miles of cave.
Or spend some Build Back Better money to enlarge the parking lot.
You're already in a cave, why not continue digging to help
alleviate the problem.
Not only that, but charging to climb Mt Hood is clear and present
discrimination against poor people - they'll have to choose between
whether to buy bread and milk at Putin's inflated prices or pay to
climb a mountain.
"Mount Hood rescues have started early, worrying mountaineers"
"Broadcast: Wednesday, June 8"
"Mountain rescue doctors and volunteers have already undertaken eight
alpine rescue missions this year, in a normal year they just have a
few. Rescue Mountaineer Christopher Van Tilburg says that increasing
crowds, inexperienced climbers and access to equipment have changed
who is headed to Mount Hood. A single mission can take all night or
last multiple days. He wrote about his rescues for Outside magazine.
Tilburg joins us to share his experience as a rescue doctor and what
makes this year so different."
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/06/08/mt-hood-rescues-have-started-early-worrying-mountaineers/
"Dramatic moment a second climber is airlifted off Mount Hood in
Oregon in as many weeks after losing grip on his ice ax and falling
as much as 700 feet
The man, a 43-year-old from the Portland suburb of Happy Valley, lost
his grip on his ice axe while climbing a ridge near the mountain's
11,000 foot summit on Saturday
The man was taken to a hospital in the Portland area. His condition
is unknown at this time, but he reportedly suffered 'serious injuries'
The incident was the second fall in the same area of Mt. hood in as
many weeks, following a 31-year-old woman's fall from the same
location on June 24"
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10989041/Dramatic-moment-climber-airlifted-Mount-Hood-Oregon-falling-700-feet.html
    All that drama has gotta be worth something.
"So they paved paradise
Put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique and a swingin' night spot
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you got 'til it's gone
They paved paradise put up a parking lot
They took all the trees
Put 'em in a tree museum
And they charged all the people an arm and a leg just to see 'em"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwUJH70ubM
TB
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This one looks a lot like the "unscalable" fence they put around the
SCOTUS building. https://outdoorworkoutsupply.com/collections/climbing/products/everlast-climbing-clear-playground-walls
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