• Covid and Paxlovid

    From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 24 09:35:18 2022
    This is probably what I get for bragging about my travels before I
    get it done. I tested positive for Covid on Wednesday in Burns--300
    miles from home--so we came home a couple of days sooner than we
    expected. It had been a fun trip up to that point. Since I came home in
    one piece and I'm still married I consider our vacation a success. I'll
    have more to say about our travels when I'm feeling better.

    It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild case. I'm already
    starting to feel better and I haven't lost my sense of smell. I'm taking Paxlovid as a precaution. The Paxlovid might be worse than the disease.
    My mouth tastes like I've been eating dandelion stems and I had some
    diarrhea this morning. These are known side effects. There are some
    other known side effects that can be worse. I'll have more to say about Paxlovid when I'm feeling better.

    I think I'm a good example of why there isn't more concern about
    the current surge in cases. I had 4 shots of the Pfizer vaccine, which
    is probably the main reason I didn't get sicker and I was able to get an anti-viral medication when I did get sick. My odds of ending up in a
    hospital appear to be very low, despite my age. If I suddenly stop
    posting for a long period of time you can probably assume the unlikely
    worst case scenario.

    TB

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Jun 24 18:20:47 2022
    On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

        This is probably what I get for bragging about my travels before I get it done. I tested positive for Covid on Wednesday in Burns--300
    miles from home--so we came home a couple of days sooner than we
    expected. It had been a fun trip up to that point. Since I came home in
    one piece and I'm still married I consider our vacation a success. I'll
    have more to say about our travels when I'm feeling better.

        It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild case. I'm already starting to feel better and I haven't lost my sense of smell. I'm taking Paxlovid as a precaution. The Paxlovid might be worse than the disease.
    My mouth tastes like I've been eating dandelion stems and I had some
    diarrhea this morning. These are known side effects. There are some
    other known side effects that can be worse. I'll have more to say about Paxlovid when I'm feeling better.

         I think I'm a good example of why there isn't more concern about the current surge in cases. I had 4 shots of the Pfizer vaccine, which
    is probably the main reason I didn't get sicker and I was able to get an anti-viral medication when I did get sick. My odds of ending up in a
    hospital appear to be very low, despite my age. If I suddenly stop
    posting for a long period of time you can probably assume the unlikely
    worst case scenario.

    TB

    Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also hope you
    don't end up with some variation of long covid.

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  • From Don Lampson@21:1/5 to kmiller on Fri Jun 24 21:02:23 2022
    On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:20:51 PM UTC-7, kmiller wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

    This is probably what I get for bragging about my travels before I
    get it done. I tested positive for Covid on Wednesday in Burns--300
    miles from home--so we came home a couple of days sooner than we
    expected. It had been a fun trip up to that point. Since I came home in
    one piece and I'm still married I consider our vacation a success. I'll have more to say about our travels when I'm feeling better.

    It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild case. I'm already
    starting to feel better and I haven't lost my sense of smell. I'm taking Paxlovid as a precaution. The Paxlovid might be worse than the disease.
    My mouth tastes like I've been eating dandelion stems and I had some diarrhea this morning. These are known side effects. There are some
    other known side effects that can be worse. I'll have more to say about Paxlovid when I'm feeling better.

    I think I'm a good example of why there isn't more concern about
    the current surge in cases. I had 4 shots of the Pfizer vaccine, which
    is probably the main reason I didn't get sicker and I was able to get an anti-viral medication when I did get sick. My odds of ending up in a hospital appear to be very low, despite my age. If I suddenly stop
    posting for a long period of time you can probably assume the unlikely worst case scenario.

    TB
    Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also hope you don't end up with some variation of long covid.

    He probably was infected by sitting on a dirty toilet seat in some filthy gas station, or seeking hydration from a drinking fountain, frequented by those sweet old "Hoover kissing" Grandmas who were Covid+?

    Dr. Ben Casey Jr.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to kmiller on Sat Jun 25 07:49:33 2022
    On 6/24/2022 6:20 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

         This is probably what I get for bragging about my travels before
    I get it done. I tested positive for Covid on Wednesday in Burns--300
    miles from home--so we came home a couple of days sooner than we
    expected. It had been a fun trip up to that point. Since I came home
    in one piece and I'm still married I consider our vacation a success.
    I'll have more to say about our travels when I'm feeling better.

         It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild case. I'm already
    starting to feel better and I haven't lost my sense of smell. I'm
    taking Paxlovid as a precaution. The Paxlovid might be worse than the
    disease. My mouth tastes like I've been eating dandelion stems and I
    had some diarrhea this morning. These are known side effects. There
    are some other known side effects that can be worse. I'll have more to
    say about Paxlovid when I'm feeling better.

          I think I'm a good example of why there isn't more concern about >> the current surge in cases. I had 4 shots of the Pfizer vaccine, which
    is probably the main reason I didn't get sicker and I was able to get
    an anti-viral medication when I did get sick. My odds of ending up in
    a hospital appear to be very low, despite my age. If I suddenly stop
    posting for a long period of time you can probably assume the unlikely
    worst case scenario.

    TB

    Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also hope you don't end up with some variation of long covid.

    Of course we're not really certain where I got infected, but our
    best guess is better story than Don's guesses. The Forest Service is
    doing something very annoying at the Lava River Cave. When their parking
    lot fills up they simply close the gate at the entrance. There are no
    signs to warn anyone whats going on until you finally reach the
    entrance. We saw cars parked on the shoulder near the entrance and got
    in that line. It was even more confusing for the people who came from
    the opposite direction, where there was no line. Their signs are so
    small and poorly located that no one could read them from the opposite
    side of the highway. So there was about a 45 minute delay before we
    could park. Then there's another delay while you wait for a 10 minute orientation about some bat disease that's killing off a lot of bats.
    White Nose disease IIRC. Once they have everyone nicely bunched up you
    can go stand in line to pay for the admission and rent a strong
    flashlight if you need one.

    When we finally reached the entrance to the cave there was a big
    family group blocking the path getting ready for a group selfie. Even
    under ordinary circumstance I get annoyed with people who block the path
    for their damn selfie. Dad asked if I would take their picture. I told
    him I would if that would get them out of my way any faster. I wasn't
    masked because I was outside and distancing. I think Dad infected me
    while we were handing his camera back and forth. This would explain why
    I got infected and my wife didn't. She tested negative on Thursday and
    positive on Friday. Most likely I infected her before I realized I was sick.

    So far it looks like both of us are going to do fine. My symptoms
    are mild enough that I considered passing on the Paxlovid. I'm only
    taking it as a rather annoying precaution. While I'm not completely over
    it I'm feeling much better this morning. For my wife it was a bit more important. She starts on her Paxlovid this morning. They're telling
    everyone to start taking it in the morning. This is probably because
    they're worried about people with Covid becoming confused. What you get
    is 5 blister packs with 6 pills divided into a morning and evening dose.
    You're actually taking 2 different drugs.

    The doctor I saw in Burns said he had Covid a month ago and he
    expected that sooner or later just about everyone would catch it. I can
    believe it. My exposure to other people has been very limited. This
    stuff obviously passes from person to person very easily.

    Getting my Paxlovid in Burns was a whole 'nother story that I'll
    post in the near future. I have a lot of stories to get to.

    Oh, and BTW, ALL of the medical professionals we have spoken with
    said that a 5 day isolation period is BULLSHIT. Everyone has told us a
    10 to 14 day isolation period is more realistic. I got the impression
    that they're saying this frequently to anyone who will listen.

    One last thought and I'll get this thing off my desk. We're
    fortunate that my wife works for a very progressive company that's based
    in San Francisco. They don't have an official Covid policy because they
    don't need one. My wife works from home and she can take as much time
    off as she needs, with full pay, for any illness.

    TB

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sat Jun 25 19:34:10 2022
    On 6/25/2022 7:49 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 6:20 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

         This is probably what I get for bragging about my travels before >>> I get it done. I tested positive for Covid on Wednesday in Burns--300
    miles from home--so we came home a couple of days sooner than we
    expected. It had been a fun trip up to that point. Since I came home
    in one piece and I'm still married I consider our vacation a success.
    I'll have more to say about our travels when I'm feeling better.

         It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild case. I'm already
    starting to feel better and I haven't lost my sense of smell. I'm
    taking Paxlovid as a precaution. The Paxlovid might be worse than the
    disease. My mouth tastes like I've been eating dandelion stems and I
    had some diarrhea this morning. These are known side effects. There
    are some other known side effects that can be worse. I'll have more
    to say about Paxlovid when I'm feeling better.

          I think I'm a good example of why there isn't more concern
    about the current surge in cases. I had 4 shots of the Pfizer
    vaccine, which is probably the main reason I didn't get sicker and I
    was able to get an anti-viral medication when I did get sick. My odds
    of ending up in a hospital appear to be very low, despite my age. If
    I suddenly stop posting for a long period of time you can probably
    assume the unlikely worst case scenario.

    TB

    Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also hope
    you don't end up with some variation of long covid.

        Of course we're not really certain where I got infected, but our
    best guess is better story than Don's guesses. The Forest Service is
    doing something very annoying at the Lava River Cave. When their parking
    lot fills up they simply close the gate at the entrance. There are no
    signs to warn anyone whats going on until you finally reach the
    entrance. We saw cars parked on the shoulder near the entrance and got
    in that line. It was even more confusing for the people who came from
    the opposite direction, where there was no line. Their signs are so
    small and poorly located that no one could read them from the opposite
    side of the highway. So there was about a 45 minute delay before we
    could park. Then there's another delay while you wait for a 10 minute orientation about some bat disease that's killing off a lot of bats.
    White Nose disease IIRC. Once they have everyone nicely bunched up you
    can go stand in line to pay for the admission and rent a strong
    flashlight if you need one.

         When we finally reached the entrance to the cave there was a big family group blocking the path getting ready for a group selfie. Even
    under ordinary circumstance I get annoyed with people who block the path
    for their damn selfie. Dad asked if I would take their picture. I told
    him I would if that would get them out of my way any faster. I wasn't
    masked because I was outside and distancing. I think Dad infected me
    while we were handing his camera back and forth. This would explain why
    I got infected and my wife didn't. She tested negative on Thursday and positive on Friday. Most likely I infected her before I realized I was
    sick.

         So far it looks like both of us are going to do fine. My symptoms are mild enough that I considered passing on the Paxlovid. I'm only
    taking it as a rather annoying precaution. While I'm not completely over
    it I'm feeling much better this morning. For my wife it was a bit more important. She starts on her Paxlovid this morning. They're telling
    everyone to start taking it in the morning. This is probably because
    they're worried about people with Covid becoming confused. What you get
    is 5 blister packs with 6 pills divided into a morning and evening dose. You're actually taking 2 different drugs.

        The doctor I saw in Burns said he had Covid a month ago and he expected that sooner or later just about everyone would catch it. I can believe it. My exposure to other people has been very limited. This
    stuff obviously passes from person to person very easily.

        Getting my Paxlovid in Burns was a whole 'nother story that I'll
    post in the near future. I have a lot of stories to get to.

         Oh, and BTW, ALL of the medical professionals we have spoken with said that a 5 day isolation period is BULLSHIT. Everyone has told us a
    10 to 14 day isolation period is more realistic. I got the impression
    that they're saying this frequently to anyone who will listen.

        One last thought and I'll get this thing off my desk. We're
    fortunate that my wife works for a very progressive company that's based
    in San Francisco. They don't have an official Covid policy because they
    don't need one. My wife works from home and she can take as much time
    off as she needs, with full pay, for any illness.

    TB

    Thanks for the followup. We seem to be among the "lucky" few who haven't
    gotten it, yet. I'll be just as happy to stay that way, too.

    --
    Liz Cheney For President!

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to kmiller on Sat Jul 2 09:27:51 2022
    On 6/25/2022 7:34 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 6/25/2022 7:49 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 6:20 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

         This is probably what I get for bragging about my travels
    before I get it done. I tested positive for Covid on Wednesday in
    Burns--300 miles from home--so we came home a couple of days sooner
    than we expected. It had been a fun trip up to that point. Since I
    came home in one piece and I'm still married I consider our vacation
    a success. I'll have more to say about our travels when I'm feeling
    better.

         It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild case. I'm already >>>> starting to feel better and I haven't lost my sense of smell. I'm
    taking Paxlovid as a precaution. The Paxlovid might be worse than
    the disease. My mouth tastes like I've been eating dandelion stems
    and I had some diarrhea this morning. These are known side effects.
    There are some other known side effects that can be worse. I'll have
    more to say about Paxlovid when I'm feeling better.

          I think I'm a good example of why there isn't more concern
    about the current surge in cases. I had 4 shots of the Pfizer
    vaccine, which is probably the main reason I didn't get sicker and I
    was able to get an anti-viral medication when I did get sick. My
    odds of ending up in a hospital appear to be very low, despite my
    age. If I suddenly stop posting for a long period of time you can
    probably assume the unlikely worst case scenario.

    TB

    Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also hope
    you don't end up with some variation of long covid.

         Of course we're not really certain where I got infected, but our
    best guess is better story than Don's guesses. The Forest Service is
    doing something very annoying at the Lava River Cave. When their
    parking lot fills up they simply close the gate at the entrance. There
    are no signs to warn anyone whats going on until you finally reach the
    entrance. We saw cars parked on the shoulder near the entrance and got
    in that line. It was even more confusing for the people who came from
    the opposite direction, where there was no line. Their signs are so
    small and poorly located that no one could read them from the opposite
    side of the highway. So there was about a 45 minute delay before we
    could park. Then there's another delay while you wait for a 10 minute
    orientation about some bat disease that's killing off a lot of bats.
    White Nose disease IIRC. Once they have everyone nicely bunched up you
    can go stand in line to pay for the admission and rent a strong
    flashlight if you need one.

          When we finally reached the entrance to the cave there was a big >> family group blocking the path getting ready for a group selfie. Even
    under ordinary circumstance I get annoyed with people who block the
    path for their damn selfie. Dad asked if I would take their picture. I
    told him I would if that would get them out of my way any faster. I
    wasn't masked because I was outside and distancing. I think Dad
    infected me while we were handing his camera back and forth. This
    would explain why I got infected and my wife didn't. She tested
    negative on Thursday and positive on Friday. Most likely I infected
    her before I realized I was sick.

          So far it looks like both of us are going to do fine. My
    symptoms are mild enough that I considered passing on the Paxlovid.
    I'm only taking it as a rather annoying precaution. While I'm not
    completely over it I'm feeling much better this morning. For my wife
    it was a bit more important. She starts on her Paxlovid this morning.
    They're telling everyone to start taking it in the morning. This is
    probably because they're worried about people with Covid becoming
    confused. What you get is 5 blister packs with 6 pills divided into a
    morning and evening dose. You're actually taking 2 different drugs.

         The doctor I saw in Burns said he had Covid a month ago and he
    expected that sooner or later just about everyone would catch it. I
    can believe it. My exposure to other people has been very limited.
    This stuff obviously passes from person to person very easily.

         Getting my Paxlovid in Burns was a whole 'nother story that I'll
    post in the near future. I have a lot of stories to get to.

          Oh, and BTW, ALL of the medical professionals we have spoken
    with said that a 5 day isolation period is BULLSHIT. Everyone has told
    us a 10 to 14 day isolation period is more realistic. I got the
    impression that they're saying this frequently to anyone who will listen.

         One last thought and I'll get this thing off my desk. We're
    fortunate that my wife works for a very progressive company that's
    based in San Francisco. They don't have an official Covid policy
    because they don't need one. My wife works from home and she can take
    as much time off as she needs, with full pay, for any illness.

    TB

    Thanks for the followup. We seem to be among the "lucky" few who haven't gotten it, yet. I'll be just as happy to stay that way, too.

    --
    Liz Cheney For President!

    I feel sort of like someone from The Invasion of the Body
    Snatchers. And I'm saying, "Come on in, the water is fine." "Hey, we're
    all out here havin' a good time." I feel so "radioactive" that I should
    have an obvious green glow.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP_SdjD5ms

    "Invasion of the Body Snatchers (12/12) Movie CLIP - The Scream (1978) HD"

    My wife is back to work today. But, I think the world sort of
    changed around me.

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sat Jul 2 13:14:46 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/25/2022 7:34 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 6/25/2022 7:49 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 6:20 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

         This is probably what I get for bragging about my
    travels before I get it done. I tested positive for Covid on
    Wednesday in Burns--300 miles from home--so we came home a couple
    of days sooner than we expected. It had been a fun trip up to
    that point. Since I came home in one piece and I'm still married
    I consider our vacation a success. I'll have more to say about
    our travels when I'm feeling better.

         It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild case. I'm >>>>> already starting to feel better and I haven't lost my sense of
    smell. I'm taking Paxlovid as a precaution. The Paxlovid might be
    worse than the disease. My mouth tastes like I've been eating
    dandelion stems and I had some diarrhea this morning. These are
    known side effects. There are some other known side effects that
    can be worse. I'll have more to say about Paxlovid when I'm
    feeling better.

          I think I'm a good example of why there isn't more >>>>> concern about the current surge in cases. I had 4 shots of the
    Pfizer vaccine, which is probably the main reason I didn't get
    sicker and I was able to get an anti-viral medication when I did
    get sick. My odds of ending up in a hospital appear to be very
    low, despite my age. If I suddenly stop posting for a long period
    of time you can probably assume the unlikely worst case scenario.

    TB

    Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also
    hope you don't end up with some variation of long covid.

         Of course we're not really certain where I got infected, >>> but our best guess is better story than Don's guesses. The Forest
    Service is doing something very annoying at the Lava River Cave.
    When their parking lot fills up they simply close the gate at the
    entrance. There are no signs to warn anyone whats going on until
    you finally reach the entrance. We saw cars parked on the shoulder
    near the entrance and got in that line. It was even more confusing
    for the people who came from the opposite direction, where there
    was no line. Their signs are so small and poorly located that no
    one could read them from the opposite side of the highway. So there
    was about a 45 minute delay before we could park. Then there's
    another delay while you wait for a 10 minute orientation about some
    bat disease that's killing off a lot of bats. White Nose disease
    IIRC. Once they have everyone nicely bunched up you can go stand in
    line to pay for the admission and rent a strong flashlight if you
    need one.

          When we finally reached the entrance to the cave there
    was a big family group blocking the path getting ready for a group
    selfie. Even under ordinary circumstance I get annoyed with people
    who block the path for their damn selfie. Dad asked if I would take
    their picture. I told him I would if that would get them out of my
    way any faster. I wasn't masked because I was outside and
    distancing. I think Dad infected me while we were handing his
    camera back and forth. This would explain why I got infected and my
    wife didn't. She tested negative on Thursday and positive on
    Friday. Most likely I infected her before I realized I was sick.

          So far it looks like both of us are going to do fine. My
    symptoms are mild enough that I considered passing on the Paxlovid.
    I'm only taking it as a rather annoying precaution. While I'm not
    completely over it I'm feeling much better this morning. For my
    wife it was a bit more important. She starts on her Paxlovid this
    morning. They're telling everyone to start taking it in the
    morning. This is probably because they're worried about people with
    Covid becoming confused. What you get is 5 blister packs with 6
    pills divided into a morning and evening dose. You're actually
    taking 2 different drugs.

         The doctor I saw in Burns said he had Covid a month ago >>> and he expected that sooner or later just about everyone would
    catch it. I can believe it. My exposure to other people has been
    very limited. This stuff obviously passes from person to person
    very easily.

         Getting my Paxlovid in Burns was a whole 'nother story >>> that I'll post in the near future. I have a lot of stories to get to.

          Oh, and BTW, ALL of the medical professionals we have >>> spoken with said that a 5 day isolation period is BULLSHIT.
    Everyone has told us a 10 to 14 day isolation period is more
    realistic. I got the impression that they're saying this frequently
    to anyone who will listen.

         One last thought and I'll get this thing off my desk.
    We're fortunate that my wife works for a very progressive company
    that's based in San Francisco. They don't have an official Covid
    policy because they don't need one. My wife works from home and she
    can take as much time off as she needs, with full pay, for any
    illness.

    TB

    Thanks for the followup. We seem to be among the "lucky" few who
    haven't gotten it, yet. I'll be just as happy to stay that way, too.

    --
    Liz Cheney For President!

          I feel sort of like someone from The Invasion of the Body Snatchers. And I'm saying, "Come on in, the water is fine." "Hey,
    we're all out here havin' a good time." I feel so "radioactive" that I
    should have an obvious green glow.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP_SdjD5ms

    "Invasion of the Body Snatchers (12/12) Movie CLIP - The Scream (1978)
    HD"

        My wife is back to work today. But, I think the world sort of changed around me.

    TB

    At the end of the end of the day going forward, whether or not you
    like the metrics of the self-perceived change, because of the
    significance of the passage of time, it's literally transitory..............and according to some experts, the only thing permanent is change. Follow the science.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat Jul 2 11:03:04 2022
    On 7/2/2022 10:14 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/25/2022 7:34 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 6/25/2022 7:49 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 6:20 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

         This is probably what I get for bragging about my travels
    before I get it done. I tested positive for Covid on Wednesday in
    Burns--300 miles from home--so we came home a couple of days
    sooner than we expected. It had been a fun trip up to that point.
    Since I came home in one piece and I'm still married I consider
    our vacation a success. I'll have more to say about our travels
    when I'm feeling better.

         It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild case. I'm >>>>>> already starting to feel better and I haven't lost my sense of
    smell. I'm taking Paxlovid as a precaution. The Paxlovid might be
    worse than the disease. My mouth tastes like I've been eating
    dandelion stems and I had some diarrhea this morning. These are
    known side effects. There are some other known side effects that
    can be worse. I'll have more to say about Paxlovid when I'm
    feeling better.

          I think I'm a good example of why there isn't more >>>>>> concern about the current surge in cases. I had 4 shots of the
    Pfizer vaccine, which is probably the main reason I didn't get
    sicker and I was able to get an anti-viral medication when I did
    get sick. My odds of ending up in a hospital appear to be very
    low, despite my age. If I suddenly stop posting for a long period
    of time you can probably assume the unlikely worst case scenario.

    TB

    Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also
    hope you don't end up with some variation of long covid.

         Of course we're not really certain where I got infected, >>>> but our best guess is better story than Don's guesses. The Forest
    Service is doing something very annoying at the Lava River Cave.
    When their parking lot fills up they simply close the gate at the
    entrance. There are no signs to warn anyone whats going on until you
    finally reach the entrance. We saw cars parked on the shoulder near
    the entrance and got in that line. It was even more confusing for
    the people who came from the opposite direction, where there was no
    line. Their signs are so small and poorly located that no one could
    read them from the opposite side of the highway. So there was about
    a 45 minute delay before we could park. Then there's another delay
    while you wait for a 10 minute orientation about some bat disease
    that's killing off a lot of bats. White Nose disease IIRC. Once they
    have everyone nicely bunched up you can go stand in line to pay for
    the admission and rent a strong flashlight if you need one.

          When we finally reached the entrance to the cave there
    was a big family group blocking the path getting ready for a group
    selfie. Even under ordinary circumstance I get annoyed with people
    who block the path for their damn selfie. Dad asked if I would take
    their picture. I told him I would if that would get them out of my
    way any faster. I wasn't masked because I was outside and
    distancing. I think Dad infected me while we were handing his camera
    back and forth. This would explain why I got infected and my wife
    didn't. She tested negative on Thursday and positive on Friday. Most
    likely I infected her before I realized I was sick.

          So far it looks like both of us are going to do fine. My
    symptoms are mild enough that I considered passing on the Paxlovid.
    I'm only taking it as a rather annoying precaution. While I'm not
    completely over it I'm feeling much better this morning. For my wife
    it was a bit more important. She starts on her Paxlovid this
    morning. They're telling everyone to start taking it in the morning.
    This is probably because they're worried about people with Covid
    becoming confused. What you get is 5 blister packs with 6 pills
    divided into a morning and evening dose. You're actually taking 2
    different drugs.

         The doctor I saw in Burns said he had Covid a month ago and
    he expected that sooner or later just about everyone would catch it.
    I can believe it. My exposure to other people has been very limited.
    This stuff obviously passes from person to person very easily.

         Getting my Paxlovid in Burns was a whole 'nother story that
    I'll post in the near future. I have a lot of stories to get to.

          Oh, and BTW, ALL of the medical professionals we have >>>> spoken with said that a 5 day isolation period is BULLSHIT. Everyone
    has told us a 10 to 14 day isolation period is more realistic. I got
    the impression that they're saying this frequently to anyone who
    will listen.

         One last thought and I'll get this thing off my desk. We're
    fortunate that my wife works for a very progressive company that's
    based in San Francisco. They don't have an official Covid policy
    because they don't need one. My wife works from home and she can
    take as much time off as she needs, with full pay, for any illness.

    TB

    Thanks for the followup. We seem to be among the "lucky" few who
    haven't gotten it, yet. I'll be just as happy to stay that way, too.

    --
    Liz Cheney For President!

           I feel sort of like someone from The Invasion of the Body
    Snatchers. And I'm saying, "Come on in, the water is fine." "Hey,
    we're all out here havin' a good time." I feel so "radioactive" that I
    should have an obvious green glow.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP_SdjD5ms

    "Invasion of the Body Snatchers (12/12) Movie CLIP - The Scream (1978)
    HD"

         My wife is back to work today. But, I think the world sort of
    changed around me.

    TB

    At the end of the end of the day going forward, whether or not you like
    the metrics of the self-perceived change, because of the significance of
    the passage of time, it's literally transitory..............and
    according to some experts, the only thing permanent is change. Follow
    the science.


    LOL If you want some real fun try following the science on
    isolating. Everyone has an opinion and a few "facts". None of them
    really agree.

    I was outside Fred Meyer waiting to get my fruit. I heard someone
    cough and it caught my ear because I recognized the sound. It was one of
    us. Naturally he walked right in without masking.

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sat Jul 2 15:14:48 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/2/2022 10:14 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/25/2022 7:34 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 6/25/2022 7:49 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 6:20 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

         This is probably what I get for bragging about
    my travels before I get it done. I tested positive for Covid on >>>>>>> Wednesday in Burns--300 miles from home--so we came home a
    couple of days sooner than we expected. It had been a fun trip
    up to that point. Since I came home in one piece and I'm still
    married I consider our vacation a success. I'll have more to
    say about our travels when I'm feeling better.

         It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild
    case. I'm already starting to feel better and I haven't lost my >>>>>>> sense of smell. I'm taking Paxlovid as a precaution. The
    Paxlovid might be worse than the disease. My mouth tastes like
    I've been eating dandelion stems and I had some diarrhea this
    morning. These are known side effects. There are some other
    known side effects that can be worse. I'll have more to say
    about Paxlovid when I'm feeling better.

          I think I'm a good example of why there
    isn't more concern about the current surge in cases. I had 4
    shots of the Pfizer vaccine, which is probably the main reason
    I didn't get sicker and I was able to get an anti-viral
    medication when I did get sick. My odds of ending up in a
    hospital appear to be very low, despite my age. If I suddenly
    stop posting for a long period of time you can probably assume
    the unlikely worst case scenario.

    TB

    Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also
    hope you don't end up with some variation of long covid.

         Of course we're not really certain where I got
    infected, but our best guess is better story than Don's guesses.
    The Forest Service is doing something very annoying at the Lava
    River Cave. When their parking lot fills up they simply close the
    gate at the entrance. There are no signs to warn anyone whats
    going on until you finally reach the entrance. We saw cars parked
    on the shoulder near the entrance and got in that line. It was
    even more confusing for the people who came from the opposite
    direction, where there was no line. Their signs are so small and
    poorly located that no one could read them from the opposite side
    of the highway. So there was about a 45 minute delay before we
    could park. Then there's another delay while you wait for a 10
    minute orientation about some bat disease that's killing off a
    lot of bats. White Nose disease IIRC. Once they have everyone
    nicely bunched up you can go stand in line to pay for the
    admission and rent a strong flashlight if you need one.

          When we finally reached the entrance to the
    cave there was a big family group blocking the path getting ready
    for a group selfie. Even under ordinary circumstance I get
    annoyed with people who block the path for their damn selfie. Dad
    asked if I would take their picture. I told him I would if that
    would get them out of my way any faster. I wasn't masked because
    I was outside and distancing. I think Dad infected me while we
    were handing his camera back and forth. This would explain why I
    got infected and my wife didn't. She tested negative on Thursday
    and positive on Friday. Most likely I infected her before I
    realized I was sick.

          So far it looks like both of us are going to
    do fine. My symptoms are mild enough that I considered passing on
    the Paxlovid. I'm only taking it as a rather annoying precaution.
    While I'm not completely over it I'm feeling much better this
    morning. For my wife it was a bit more important. She starts on
    her Paxlovid this morning. They're telling everyone to start
    taking it in the morning. This is probably because they're
    worried about people with Covid becoming confused. What you get
    is 5 blister packs with 6 pills divided into a morning and
    evening dose. You're actually taking 2 different drugs.

         The doctor I saw in Burns said he had Covid a
    month ago and he expected that sooner or later just about
    everyone would catch it. I can believe it. My exposure to other
    people has been very limited. This stuff obviously passes from
    person to person very easily.

         Getting my Paxlovid in Burns was a whole 'nother
    story that I'll post in the near future. I have a lot of stories
    to get to.

          Oh, and BTW, ALL of the medical
    professionals we have spoken with said that a 5 day isolation
    period is BULLSHIT. Everyone has told us a 10 to 14 day isolation
    period is more realistic. I got the impression that they're
    saying this frequently to anyone who will listen.

         One last thought and I'll get this thing off my
    desk. We're fortunate that my wife works for a very progressive
    company that's based in San Francisco. They don't have an
    official Covid policy because they don't need one. My wife works
    from home and she can take as much time off as she needs, with
    full pay, for any illness.

    TB

    Thanks for the followup. We seem to be among the "lucky" few who
    haven't gotten it, yet. I'll be just as happy to stay that way, too.

    --
    Liz Cheney For President!

           I feel sort of like someone from The Invasion of the
    Body Snatchers. And I'm saying, "Come on in, the water is fine."
    "Hey, we're all out here havin' a good time." I feel so
    "radioactive" that I should have an obvious green glow.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP_SdjD5ms

    "Invasion of the Body Snatchers (12/12) Movie CLIP - The Scream
    (1978) HD"

         My wife is back to work today. But, I think the world sort
    of changed around me.

    TB

    At the end of the end of the day going forward, whether or not you
    like the metrics of the self-perceived change, because of the
    significance of the passage of time, it's literally
    transitory..............and according to some experts, the only
    thing permanent is change. Follow the science.


         LOL If you want some real fun try following the science on isolating. Everyone has an opinion and a few "facts". None of them
    really agree.

    LOL. I've been saying that since about Mar-Apr 2020. I'll say it again:
    Follow the science? Which science? Whose science? The science du jour?
    Follow the science? HawHawHaw!
    Might as well try to follow a crazy ant.
    https://youtu.be/E1sN1xBKRB8

    But hey. It's just science "evolving". Right? Wrong. It's science
    infected with politics.
    HawHawHaw!

         I was outside Fred Meyer waiting to get my fruit. I heard
    someone cough and it caught my ear because I recognized the sound. It
    was one of us. Naturally he walked right in without masking.

    No problem. Put on your mask - it may or may not help you. Stay 6 feet
    away - it may or may not help you. Wash your hands - it may or may not
    help you. Keep exposure under 15 minutes - it may or may not help you. Sanitize those surfaces - it may or may not help you. Spray your mail
    with bleach or leave it the sun for 3 days - it may or may not help
    you. Don't scratch your nose after picking out that tomato - it may or
    may not help you.
    Just follow the science. HawHawHaw! LOL! ROTFL! LMAO! LMHO! FOMCL! https://images.app.goo.gl/vbwq7cZAVoMs5sQk6

    Science says laughter is good medicine. ----------------------------------------------------------
    Long-term effects

    Laughter isn't just a quick pick-me-up, though. It's also good for you
    over the long term. Laughter may:

    Improve your immune system. Negative thoughts manifest into
    chemical reactions that can affect your body by bringing more stress
    into your system and decreasing your immunity. By contrast, positive
    thoughts can actually release neuropeptides that help fight stress and potentially more-serious illnesses.
    Relieve pain. Laughter may ease pain by causing the body to
    produce its own natural painkillers.
    Increase personal satisfaction. Laughter can also make it easier
    to cope with difficult situations. It also helps you connect with
    other people.
    Improve your mood. Many people experience depression, sometimes
    due to chronic illnesses. Laughter can help lessen your stress,
    depression and anxiety and may make you feel happier. It can also
    improve your self-esteem. -------------------------------------------------------------- https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/stress-management/in-depth/stress-relief/art-20044456

    Follow the science.
    1. HawHawHaw!
    2. Repeat 1 until you feel better.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat Jul 2 12:35:16 2022
    On 7/2/2022 12:14 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 7/2/2022 10:14 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/25/2022 7:34 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 6/25/2022 7:49 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 6:20 PM, kmiller wrote:
    On 6/24/2022 9:35 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:

         This is probably what I get for bragging about
    my travels before I get it done. I tested positive for Covid on >>>>>>>> Wednesday in Burns--300 miles from home--so we came home a
    couple of days sooner than we expected. It had been a fun trip >>>>>>>> up to that point. Since I came home in one piece and I'm still >>>>>>>> married I consider our vacation a success. I'll have more to say >>>>>>>> about our travels when I'm feeling better.

         It looks like it's going to be a fairly mild
    case. I'm already starting to feel better and I haven't lost my >>>>>>>> sense of smell. I'm taking Paxlovid as a precaution. The
    Paxlovid might be worse than the disease. My mouth tastes like >>>>>>>> I've been eating dandelion stems and I had some diarrhea this
    morning. These are known side effects. There are some other
    known side effects that can be worse. I'll have more to say
    about Paxlovid when I'm feeling better.

          I think I'm a good example of why there
    isn't more concern about the current surge in cases. I had 4
    shots of the Pfizer vaccine, which is probably the main reason I >>>>>>>> didn't get sicker and I was able to get an anti-viral medication >>>>>>>> when I did get sick. My odds of ending up in a hospital appear >>>>>>>> to be very low, despite my age. If I suddenly stop posting for a >>>>>>>> long period of time you can probably assume the unlikely worst >>>>>>>> case scenario.

    TB

    Just curious - any idea of the source of your infection? I also
    hope you don't end up with some variation of long covid.

         Of course we're not really certain where I got
    infected, but our best guess is better story than Don's guesses.
    The Forest Service is doing something very annoying at the Lava
    River Cave. When their parking lot fills up they simply close the
    gate at the entrance. There are no signs to warn anyone whats
    going on until you finally reach the entrance. We saw cars parked
    on the shoulder near the entrance and got in that line. It was
    even more confusing for the people who came from the opposite
    direction, where there was no line. Their signs are so small and
    poorly located that no one could read them from the opposite side
    of the highway. So there was about a 45 minute delay before we
    could park. Then there's another delay while you wait for a 10
    minute orientation about some bat disease that's killing off a lot >>>>>> of bats. White Nose disease IIRC. Once they have everyone nicely
    bunched up you can go stand in line to pay for the admission and
    rent a strong flashlight if you need one.

          When we finally reached the entrance to the
    cave there was a big family group blocking the path getting ready
    for a group selfie. Even under ordinary circumstance I get annoyed >>>>>> with people who block the path for their damn selfie. Dad asked if >>>>>> I would take their picture. I told him I would if that would get
    them out of my way any faster. I wasn't masked because I was
    outside and distancing. I think Dad infected me while we were
    handing his camera back and forth. This would explain why I got
    infected and my wife didn't. She tested negative on Thursday and
    positive on Friday. Most likely I infected her before I realized I >>>>>> was sick.

          So far it looks like both of us are going to
    do fine. My symptoms are mild enough that I considered passing on
    the Paxlovid. I'm only taking it as a rather annoying precaution.
    While I'm not completely over it I'm feeling much better this
    morning. For my wife it was a bit more important. She starts on
    her Paxlovid this morning. They're telling everyone to start
    taking it in the morning. This is probably because they're worried >>>>>> about people with Covid becoming confused. What you get is 5
    blister packs with 6 pills divided into a morning and evening
    dose. You're actually taking 2 different drugs.

         The doctor I saw in Burns said he had Covid a
    month ago and he expected that sooner or later just about everyone >>>>>> would catch it. I can believe it. My exposure to other people has
    been very limited. This stuff obviously passes from person to
    person very easily.

         Getting my Paxlovid in Burns was a whole 'nother
    story that I'll post in the near future. I have a lot of stories
    to get to.

          Oh, and BTW, ALL of the medical professionals
    we have spoken with said that a 5 day isolation period is
    BULLSHIT. Everyone has told us a 10 to 14 day isolation period is
    more realistic. I got the impression that they're saying this
    frequently to anyone who will listen.

         One last thought and I'll get this thing off my
    desk. We're fortunate that my wife works for a very progressive
    company that's based in San Francisco. They don't have an official >>>>>> Covid policy because they don't need one. My wife works from home
    and she can take as much time off as she needs, with full pay, for >>>>>> any illness.

    TB

    Thanks for the followup. We seem to be among the "lucky" few who
    haven't gotten it, yet. I'll be just as happy to stay that way, too. >>>>>
    --
    Liz Cheney For President!

           I feel sort of like someone from The Invasion of the
    Body Snatchers. And I'm saying, "Come on in, the water is fine."
    "Hey, we're all out here havin' a good time." I feel so
    "radioactive" that I should have an obvious green glow.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTP_SdjD5ms

    "Invasion of the Body Snatchers (12/12) Movie CLIP - The Scream
    (1978) HD"

         My wife is back to work today. But, I think the world sort
    of changed around me.

    TB

    At the end of the end of the day going forward, whether or not you
    like the metrics of the self-perceived change, because of the
    significance of the passage of time, it's literally
    transitory..............and according to some experts, the only thing
    permanent is change. Follow the science.


          LOL If you want some real fun try following the science on
    isolating. Everyone has an opinion and a few "facts". None of them
    really agree.

    LOL. I've been saying that since about Mar-Apr 2020. I'll say it again: Follow the science? Which science? Whose science? The science du jour?
    Follow the science? HawHawHaw!
    Might as well try to follow a crazy ant.
    https://youtu.be/E1sN1xBKRB8

    But hey. It's just science "evolving". Right? Wrong. It's science
    infected with politics.
    HawHawHaw!

          I was outside Fred Meyer waiting to get my fruit. I heard
    someone cough and it caught my ear because I recognized the sound. It
    was one of us. Naturally he walked right in without masking.

    No problem. Put on your mask - it may or may not help you. Stay 6 feet
    away - it may or may not help you. Wash your hands - it may or may not
    help you. Keep exposure under 15 minutes - it may or may not help you. Sanitize those surfaces - it may or may not help you. Spray your mail
    with bleach or leave it the sun for 3 days - it may or may not help you. Don't scratch your nose after picking out that tomato - it may or may
    not help you.
    Just follow the science. HawHawHaw! LOL! ROTFL! LMAO! LMHO! FOMCL! https://images.app.goo.gl/vbwq7cZAVoMs5sQk6

    Science says laughter is good medicine. ----------------------------------------------------------
    Long-term effects

    Laughter isn't just a quick pick-me-up, though. It's also good for you
    over the long term. Laughter may:

        Improve your immune system. Negative thoughts manifest into
    chemical reactions that can affect your body by bringing more stress
    into your system and decreasing your immunity. By contrast, positive
    thoughts can actually release neuropeptides that help fight stress and potentially more-serious illnesses.
        Relieve pain. Laughter may ease pain by causing the body to produce its own natural painkillers.
        Increase personal satisfaction. Laughter can also make it easier to cope with difficult situations. It also helps you connect with other
    people.
        Improve your mood. Many people experience depression, sometimes due to chronic illnesses. Laughter can help lessen your stress, depression
    and anxiety and may make you feel happier. It can also improve your self-esteem.
    -------------------------------------------------------------- https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/stress-management/in-depth/stress-relief/art-20044456


    Follow the science.
    1. HawHawHaw!
    2. Repeat 1 until you feel better.


    Yep, that's what I've been doing all along, without thinking much
    or stressing about it. It's just a long time habit. Wherever I end up,
    and that has been a lot of different places, it's always a hoot.

    TB

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