• Dream Chaser taking form

    From Frank Howell@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 2 10:23:50 2022
    The company provided SpaceNews with images of the first Dream Chaser,
    named Tenacity, being assembled at its Colorado headquarters. The
    vehicle’s structure is now largely complete, but there is still more
    work to install its thermal protection system and other components.

    “We have the wings on now. It really looks like a spaceplane,” said
    Janet Kavandi, president of Sierra Space, during a panel at the AIAA
    ASCENDx Texas conference in Houston April 28, where she played a video
    showing work building the vehicle.


    Having a commercial spacecraft that can land on runways would be an
    improvement over splashdown landings would be a game changer.

    No more parachutes that costs millions, no more multiple ships resources
    needed and no "salt water" costly refurbishing.

    https://tinyurl.com/y5lsjfqc
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    Frank Howell

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Frank Howell on Mon May 2 19:59:03 2022
    Frank Howell wrote:
    The company provided SpaceNews with images of the first Dream Chaser,
    named Tenacity, being assembled at its Colorado headquarters. The vehicle’s structure is now largely complete, but there is still more work to install its thermal protection system and other components.

    “We have the wings on now. It really looks like a spaceplane,” said Janet Kavandi, president of Sierra Space, during a panel at the
    AIAA ASCENDx Texas conference in Houston April 28, where she played a
    video showing work building the vehicle.


    Having a commercial spacecraft that can land on runways would be an improvement over splashdown landings would be a game changer.

    No more parachutes that costs millions, no more multiple ships resources needed and no "salt water" costly refurbishing.

       https://tinyurl.com/y5lsjfqc

    I allege that I think it's a good idea, and I hope it succeeds, but if
    they continue with the plan to get it into space with the expendable
    ULA Vulcan, they can stop crowing about cost savings, I think.

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    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Frank Howell@21:1/5 to bfh on Mon May 2 21:38:29 2022
    bfh wrote:
    Frank Howell wrote:
    The company provided SpaceNews with images of the first Dream Chaser,
    named Tenacity, being assembled at its Colorado headquarters. The
    vehicle’s structure is now largely complete, but there is still more >> work to install its thermal protection system and other components.

    “We have the wings on now. It really looks like a spaceplane,” >> said Janet Kavandi, president of Sierra Space, during a panel at the
    AIAA ASCENDx Texas conference in Houston April 28, where she played a
    video showing work building the vehicle.


    Having a commercial spacecraft that can land on runways would be an
    improvement over splashdown landings would be a game changer.

    No more parachutes that costs millions, no more multiple ships resources
    needed and no "salt water" costly refurbishing.

        https://tinyurl.com/y5lsjfqc

    I allege that I think it's a good idea, and I hope it succeeds, but if
    they continue with the plan to get it into space with the expendable ULA Vulcan, they can stop crowing about cost savings, I think.

    Well i guess you missed this:

    The Sensible Modular Autonomous Return Technology (SMART) reuse concept
    was also announced during the initial April 2015 unveiling. The booster engines, avionics, and thrust structure would be detached as a module
    from the propellant tanks after booster engine cutoff. The module would
    descend through the atmosphere under an inflatable heat shield. After
    parachute deployment, a helicopter would capture the module in mid-air.
    ULA estimated this technology would reduce the cost of the first stage propulsion by 90%, and 65% of the total first-stage cost.[35] By 2020,
    ULA has not announced firm plans to fund, build and test this
    engine-reuse concept, though in late 2019 they stated they were "still
    planning to eventually reuse Vulcan's first-stage engines".[36]

    This almost could be a game changer depending on training the chopper
    goes. snicker. But right now it's stuck with planing and planing....

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    Frank Howell

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Frank Howell on Tue May 3 01:19:04 2022
    Frank Howell wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    Frank Howell wrote:
    The company provided SpaceNews with images of the first Dream
    Chaser, named Tenacity, being assembled at its Colorado
    headquarters. The vehicle’s structure is now largely
    complete, but there is still more work to install its thermal
    protection system and other components.

    “We have the wings on now. It really looks like a
    spaceplane,” said Janet Kavandi, president of Sierra Space, >>> during a panel at the AIAA ASCENDx Texas conference in Houston
    April 28, where she played a video showing work building the vehicle.


    Having a commercial spacecraft that can land on runways would be an
    improvement over splashdown landings would be a game changer.

    No more parachutes that costs millions, no more multiple ships
    resources
    needed and no "salt water" costly refurbishing.

        https://tinyurl.com/y5lsjfqc

    I allege that I think it's a good idea, and I hope it succeeds, but
    if they continue with the plan to get it into space with the
    expendable ULA Vulcan, they can stop crowing about cost savings, I
    think.

    Well  i guess you missed this:

    The Sensible Modular Autonomous Return Technology (SMART) reuse
    concept was also announced during the initial April 2015 unveiling.
    The booster engines, avionics, and thrust structure would be detached
    as a module from the propellant tanks after booster engine cutoff. The
    module would descend through the atmosphere under an inflatable heat
    shield. After parachute deployment, a helicopter would capture the
    module in mid-air. ULA estimated this technology would reduce the cost
    of the first stage propulsion by 90%, and 65% of the total first-stage cost.[35] By 2020, ULA has not announced firm plans to fund, build and
    test this engine-reuse concept, though in late 2019 they stated they
    were "still planning to eventually reuse Vulcan's first-stage
    engines".[36]

    This almost could be a game changer depending on training the chopper
    goes. snicker.  But right now it's stuck with planing and planing....


    Chopper catching should not be a problem. When we were flying 30-ft
    drones in the 60's, they ended their missions with a parachute
    deployment, and our chopper guys were catching them with no problem.
    Equipment and methods have probably improved considerably since then................unless the skills and knowledge were lost in the
    dustbin of history.

    There might even be some videos out there in the ether somewhere. If
    you're interested, look for stuff related to DC-130's and/or 147SA,
    SB, or SC drones.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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