• Re: No "messaging" getting out here, No sir

    From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Apr 28 22:51:43 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Trump unleashes his temper on GOP allies over Ohio Senate primary split"

    "(CNN)Not since Anthony Scaramucci was fired a mere 10 days into his
    White House gig has someone fallen out of Donald Trump's favor as
    quickly as David McIntosh.

    At an April 9 rally in North Carolina, the former President appeared delighted with the Club for Growth chief. "He's a winner. He's a
    fighter. We are undefeated when we work together," Trump said as he
    welcomed the conservative power broker onstage.
    "You are a great man. ... I am so proud to partner with you," McIntosh replied.

    But the duo's partnership came to a screeching halt last week after
    the Club for Growth refused to end its negative ad campaign against
    Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance at the former President's behest and doubled down with new ads against the Trump-backed "Hillbilly Elegy"
    author. The group has backed former state treasurer Josh Mandel in the
    heated Republican primary for the seat being vacated by Sen. Rob Portman.

    Unnerved by McIntosh's defiance, Trump reportedly asked an
    intermediary to deliver a curt text message to him.

    "Go f--- yourself," it read.

    The two men haven't spoken since, according to a person close to Trump" [snip]

         Nope, absolutely no "messaging" getting out here. The poor
    orange dimwit is chained in a deep dark dungeon somewhere, with a gag
    firmly locked in place. He can't possibly be running around endorsing candidates right and left. He's the ultimate victim.

         Hey, "right and left" is just a figure of speech. In this
    instance I know it's more like endorsing candidates right and more right.

    I literally drive in the left lane, but in some messaging contexts,
    it's just a figure of speech.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 28 19:34:37 2022
    "Trump unleashes his temper on GOP allies over Ohio Senate primary split"

    "(CNN)Not since Anthony Scaramucci was fired a mere 10 days into his
    White House gig has someone fallen out of Donald Trump's favor as
    quickly as David McIntosh.

    At an April 9 rally in North Carolina, the former President appeared
    delighted with the Club for Growth chief. "He's a winner. He's a
    fighter. We are undefeated when we work together," Trump said as he
    welcomed the conservative power broker onstage.
    "You are a great man. ... I am so proud to partner with you," McIntosh
    replied.

    But the duo's partnership came to a screeching halt last week after the
    Club for Growth refused to end its negative ad campaign against Ohio
    Senate candidate J.D. Vance at the former President's behest and doubled
    down with new ads against the Trump-backed "Hillbilly Elegy" author. The
    group has backed former state treasurer Josh Mandel in the heated
    Republican primary for the seat being vacated by Sen. Rob Portman.

    Unnerved by McIntosh's defiance, Trump reportedly asked an intermediary
    to deliver a curt text message to him.

    "Go f--- yourself," it read.

    The two men haven't spoken since, according to a person close to Trump"
    [snip]

    Nope, absolutely no "messaging" getting out here. The poor orange
    dimwit is chained in a deep dark dungeon somewhere, with a gag firmly
    locked in place. He can't possibly be running around endorsing
    candidates right and left. He's the ultimate victim.

    Hey, "right and left" is just a figure of speech. In this instance
    I know it's more like endorsing candidates right and more right.

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Apr 29 10:12:53 2022
    On 4/28/22 9:34 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Trump unleashes his temper on GOP allies over Ohio Senate primary split"

    "(CNN)Not since Anthony Scaramucci was fired a mere 10 days into his
    White House gig has someone fallen out of Donald Trump's favor as
    quickly as David McIntosh.

    At an April 9 rally in North Carolina, the former President appeared delighted with the Club for Growth chief. "He's a winner. He's a
    fighter. We are undefeated when we work together," Trump said as he
    welcomed the conservative power broker onstage.
    "You are a great man. ... I am so proud to partner with you," McIntosh replied.

    But the duo's partnership came to a screeching halt last week after the
    Club for Growth refused to end its negative ad campaign against Ohio
    Senate candidate J.D. Vance at the former President's behest and doubled
    down with new ads against the Trump-backed "Hillbilly Elegy" author. The group has backed former state treasurer Josh Mandel in the heated
    Republican primary for the seat being vacated by Sen. Rob Portman.

    Unnerved by McIntosh's defiance, Trump reportedly asked an intermediary
    to deliver a curt text message to him.

    "Go f--- yourself," it read.

    The two men haven't spoken since, according to a person close to Trump" [snip]

         Nope, absolutely no "messaging" getting out here. The poor orange dimwit is chained in a deep dark dungeon somewhere, with a gag firmly
    locked in place. He can't possibly be running around endorsing
    candidates right and left. He's the ultimate victim.

         Hey, "right and left" is just a figure of speech. In this instance I know it's more like endorsing candidates right and more right.

    TB

    None of your posted tripe matters to the issue at hand. That is that
    liberals are afraid of something. You don't go all out to prevent
    something unless you have something to hide ("I didn't have sex with
    that woman..."). My suspicion is they fear, among other things, the
    Facebook conservative censoring algorithms being outed.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Fri Apr 29 17:27:51 2022
    On 4/29/2022 8:12 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    On 4/28/22 9:34 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Trump unleashes his temper on GOP allies over Ohio Senate primary split"

    "(CNN)Not since Anthony Scaramucci was fired a mere 10 days into his
    White House gig has someone fallen out of Donald Trump's favor as
    quickly as David McIntosh.

    At an April 9 rally in North Carolina, the former President appeared
    delighted with the Club for Growth chief. "He's a winner. He's a
    fighter. We are undefeated when we work together," Trump said as he
    welcomed the conservative power broker onstage.
    "You are a great man. ... I am so proud to partner with you," McIntosh
    replied.

    But the duo's partnership came to a screeching halt last week after
    the Club for Growth refused to end its negative ad campaign against
    Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance at the former President's behest and
    doubled down with new ads against the Trump-backed "Hillbilly Elegy"
    author. The group has backed former state treasurer Josh Mandel in the
    heated Republican primary for the seat being vacated by Sen. Rob Portman.

    Unnerved by McIntosh's defiance, Trump reportedly asked an
    intermediary to deliver a curt text message to him.

    "Go f--- yourself," it read.

    The two men haven't spoken since, according to a person close to Trump"
    [snip]

          Nope, absolutely no "messaging" getting out here. The poor
    orange dimwit is chained in a deep dark dungeon somewhere, with a gag
    firmly locked in place. He can't possibly be running around endorsing
    candidates right and left. He's the ultimate victim.

          Hey, "right and left" is just a figure of speech. In this
    instance I know it's more like endorsing candidates right and more right.

    TB

    None of your posted tripe matters to the issue at hand. That is that
    liberals are afraid of something. You don't go all out to prevent
    something unless you have something to hide ("I didn't have sex with
    that woman..."). My suspicion is they fear, among other things, the
    Facebook conservative censoring algorithms being outed.

    Lemmee see, you post so many layers of bullshit that it's
    frequently difficult to know where to start.

    My tripe may not be the "issue at hand for you", but, sad to say,
    the world does not revolve around you. I can post about whatever amuses me.

    Paranoid much? You have more fantasies going on than Disney.
    You're painting castles in the sky. I'm not special enough to see your
    castles. You're looking at something you don't like and don't understand
    so it *must* be some grand conspiracy against you and yours. You're
    hearing hoof beating and thinking giant fanged flying monkeys with 9
    eyes that glow in the dark.

    I have an old Jack Parr story for you that's suitable for children
    who are over excited at the thought of Christmas. IOW It's sort of a
    modern Mother Goose story about a man who had two sons--an optimist and
    a pessimist. On Christmas day the pessimist got every sort of gift you
    can think of. A fancy new sports car, a yuge flat screen TV, gaming
    consoles, hot and cold running maids. On and on, you name it--he got it.
    He's sitting there with a big scowl on his face asking what the catch is.

    The optimist has a room full of shit. He's got a huge grin on his
    face and he's digging as fast as he can. He says, "All this shit, there
    must be a pony!"

    Sometimes there is no pony. Sometimes it's just shit.

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sat Apr 30 12:43:40 2022
    Technobarbarian <technobarbarian-ztopzpam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/29/2022 8:12 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    On 4/28/22 9:34 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Trump unleashes his temper on GOP allies over Ohio Senate primary split" >>>
    "(CNN)Not since Anthony Scaramucci was fired a mere 10 days into his
    White House gig has someone fallen out of Donald Trump's favor as
    quickly as David McIntosh.

    At an April 9 rally in North Carolina, the former President appeared
    delighted with the Club for Growth chief. "He's a winner. He's a
    fighter. We are undefeated when we work together," Trump said as he
    welcomed the conservative power broker onstage.
    "You are a great man. ... I am so proud to partner with you," McIntosh
    replied.

    But the duo's partnership came to a screeching halt last week after
    the Club for Growth refused to end its negative ad campaign against
    Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance at the former President's behest and
    doubled down with new ads against the Trump-backed "Hillbilly Elegy"
    author. The group has backed former state treasurer Josh Mandel in the
    heated Republican primary for the seat being vacated by Sen. Rob Portman. >>>
    Unnerved by McIntosh's defiance, Trump reportedly asked an
    intermediary to deliver a curt text message to him.

    "Go f--- yourself," it read.

    The two men haven't spoken since, according to a person close to Trump"
    [snip]

          Nope, absolutely no "messaging" getting out here. The poor
    orange dimwit is chained in a deep dark dungeon somewhere, with a gag
    firmly locked in place. He can't possibly be running around endorsing
    candidates right and left. He's the ultimate victim.

          Hey, "right and left" is just a figure of speech. In this
    instance I know it's more like endorsing candidates right and more right. >>>
    TB

    None of your posted tripe matters to the issue at hand. That is that
    liberals are afraid of something. You don't go all out to prevent
    something unless you have something to hide ("I didn't have sex with
    that woman..."). My suspicion is they fear, among other things, the
    Facebook conservative censoring algorithms being outed.

    Lemmee see, you post so many layers of bullshit that it's
    frequently difficult to know where to start.

    My tripe may not be the "issue at hand for you", but, sad to say,
    the world does not revolve around you. I can post about whatever amuses me.

    Paranoid much? You have more fantasies going on than Disney.
    You're painting castles in the sky. I'm not special enough to see your castles. You're looking at something you don't like and don't understand
    so it *must* be some grand conspiracy against you and yours. You're
    hearing hoof beating and thinking giant fanged flying monkeys with 9
    eyes that glow in the dark.

    I have an old Jack Parr story for you that's suitable for children
    who are over excited at the thought of Christmas. IOW It's sort of a
    modern Mother Goose story about a man who had two sons--an optimist and
    a pessimist. On Christmas day the pessimist got every sort of gift you
    can think of. A fancy new sports car, a yuge flat screen TV, gaming
    consoles, hot and cold running maids. On and on, you name it--he got it.
    He's sitting there with a big scowl on his face asking what the catch is.

    The optimist has a room full of shit. He's got a huge grin on his
    face and he's digging as fast as he can. He says, "All this shit, there
    must be a pony!"

    Sometimes there is no pony. Sometimes it's just shit.

    TB


    Just more of your self-important nonsensical BS as a way of not answering a question.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Sat Apr 30 09:07:44 2022
    On 4/30/2022 5:43 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Technobarbarian <technobarbarian-ztopzpam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/29/2022 8:12 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    On 4/28/22 9:34 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Trump unleashes his temper on GOP allies over Ohio Senate primary split" >>>>
    "(CNN)Not since Anthony Scaramucci was fired a mere 10 days into his
    White House gig has someone fallen out of Donald Trump's favor as
    quickly as David McIntosh.

    At an April 9 rally in North Carolina, the former President appeared
    delighted with the Club for Growth chief. "He's a winner. He's a
    fighter. We are undefeated when we work together," Trump said as he
    welcomed the conservative power broker onstage.
    "You are a great man. ... I am so proud to partner with you," McIntosh >>>> replied.

    But the duo's partnership came to a screeching halt last week after
    the Club for Growth refused to end its negative ad campaign against
    Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance at the former President's behest and
    doubled down with new ads against the Trump-backed "Hillbilly Elegy"
    author. The group has backed former state treasurer Josh Mandel in the >>>> heated Republican primary for the seat being vacated by Sen. Rob Portman. >>>>
    Unnerved by McIntosh's defiance, Trump reportedly asked an
    intermediary to deliver a curt text message to him.

    "Go f--- yourself," it read.

    The two men haven't spoken since, according to a person close to Trump" >>>> [snip]

          Nope, absolutely no "messaging" getting out here. The poor >>>> orange dimwit is chained in a deep dark dungeon somewhere, with a gag
    firmly locked in place. He can't possibly be running around endorsing
    candidates right and left. He's the ultimate victim.

          Hey, "right and left" is just a figure of speech. In this
    instance I know it's more like endorsing candidates right and more right. >>>>
    TB

    None of your posted tripe matters to the issue at hand. That is that
    liberals are afraid of something. You don't go all out to prevent
    something unless you have something to hide ("I didn't have sex with
    that woman..."). My suspicion is they fear, among other things, the
    Facebook conservative censoring algorithms being outed.

    Lemmee see, you post so many layers of bullshit that it's
    frequently difficult to know where to start.

    My tripe may not be the "issue at hand for you", but, sad to say,
    the world does not revolve around you. I can post about whatever amuses me. >>
    Paranoid much? You have more fantasies going on than Disney.
    You're painting castles in the sky. I'm not special enough to see your
    castles. You're looking at something you don't like and don't understand
    so it *must* be some grand conspiracy against you and yours. You're
    hearing hoof beating and thinking giant fanged flying monkeys with 9
    eyes that glow in the dark.

    I have an old Jack Parr story for you that's suitable for children
    who are over excited at the thought of Christmas. IOW It's sort of a
    modern Mother Goose story about a man who had two sons--an optimist and
    a pessimist. On Christmas day the pessimist got every sort of gift you
    can think of. A fancy new sports car, a yuge flat screen TV, gaming
    consoles, hot and cold running maids. On and on, you name it--he got it.
    He's sitting there with a big scowl on his face asking what the catch is.

    The optimist has a room full of shit. He's got a huge grin on his
    face and he's digging as fast as he can. He says, "All this shit, there
    must be a pony!"

    Sometimes there is no pony. Sometimes it's just shit.

    TB


    Just more of your self-important nonsensical BS as a way of not answering a question.


    Your question is nonsensical and you can't name any "messaging"
    that isn't "getting out". I don't expect any answer to make sense to you.

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sat Apr 30 11:41:02 2022
    On 4/30/22 11:07 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 4/30/2022 5:43 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Technobarbarian <technobarbarian-ztopzpam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/29/2022 8:12 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    On 4/28/22 9:34 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Trump unleashes his temper on GOP allies over Ohio Senate primary
    split"

    "(CNN)Not since Anthony Scaramucci was fired a mere 10 days into his >>>>> White House gig has someone fallen out of Donald Trump's favor as
    quickly as David McIntosh.

    At an April 9 rally in North Carolina, the former President appeared >>>>> delighted with the Club for Growth chief. "He's a winner. He's a
    fighter. We are undefeated when we work together," Trump said as he
    welcomed the conservative power broker onstage.
    "You are a great man. ... I am so proud to partner with you," McIntosh >>>>> replied.

    But the duo's partnership came to a screeching halt last week after
    the Club for Growth refused to end its negative ad campaign against
    Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance at the former President's behest and >>>>> doubled down with new ads against the Trump-backed "Hillbilly Elegy" >>>>> author. The group has backed former state treasurer Josh Mandel in the >>>>> heated Republican primary for the seat being vacated by Sen. Rob
    Portman.

    Unnerved by McIntosh's defiance, Trump reportedly asked an
    intermediary to deliver a curt text message to him.

    "Go f--- yourself," it read.

    The two men haven't spoken since, according to a person close to
    Trump"
    [snip]

           Nope, absolutely no "messaging" getting out here. The poor >>>>> orange dimwit is chained in a deep dark dungeon somewhere, with a gag >>>>> firmly locked in place. He can't possibly be running around endorsing >>>>> candidates right and left. He's the ultimate victim.

           Hey, "right and left" is just a figure of speech. In this >>>>> instance I know it's more like endorsing candidates right and more
    right.

    TB

    None of your posted tripe matters to the issue at hand. That is that
    liberals are afraid of something. You don't go all out to prevent
    something unless you have something to hide ("I didn't have sex with
    that woman..."). My suspicion is they fear, among other things, the
    Facebook conservative censoring algorithms being outed.

         Lemmee see, you post so many layers of bullshit that it's
    frequently difficult to know where to start.

          My tripe may not be the "issue at hand for you", but, sad to say,
    the world does not revolve around you. I can post about whatever
    amuses me.

          Paranoid much? You have more fantasies going on than Disney.
    You're painting castles in the sky. I'm not special enough to see your
    castles. You're looking at something you don't like and don't understand >>> so it *must* be some grand conspiracy against you and yours. You're
    hearing hoof beating and thinking giant fanged flying monkeys with 9
    eyes that glow in the dark.

          I have an old Jack Parr story for you that's suitable for children
    who are over excited at the thought of Christmas. IOW It's sort of a
    modern Mother Goose story about a man who had two sons--an optimist and
    a pessimist. On Christmas day the pessimist got every sort of gift you
    can think of. A fancy new sports car, a yuge flat screen TV, gaming
    consoles, hot and cold running maids. On and on, you name it--he got it. >>> He's sitting there with a big scowl on his face asking what the catch
    is.

         The optimist has a room full of shit. He's got a huge grin on his >>> face and he's digging as fast as he can. He says, "All this shit, there
    must be a pony!"

         Sometimes there is no pony. Sometimes it's just shit.

    TB


    Just more of your self-important nonsensical BS as a way of not
    answering a
    question.


        Your question is nonsensical and you can't name any "messaging"
    that isn't "getting out". I don't expect any answer to make sense to you.

    TB

    You refuse to answer the question "what you are afraid of?" so I'm
    though with you on this topic.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Sat Apr 30 15:38:37 2022
    On 4/30/2022 9:41 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    On 4/30/22 11:07 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 4/30/2022 5:43 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Technobarbarian <technobarbarian-ztopzpam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/29/2022 8:12 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    On 4/28/22 9:34 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Trump unleashes his temper on GOP allies over Ohio Senate primary >>>>>> split"

    "(CNN)Not since Anthony Scaramucci was fired a mere 10 days into his >>>>>> White House gig has someone fallen out of Donald Trump's favor as
    quickly as David McIntosh.

    At an April 9 rally in North Carolina, the former President appeared >>>>>> delighted with the Club for Growth chief. "He's a winner. He's a
    fighter. We are undefeated when we work together," Trump said as he >>>>>> welcomed the conservative power broker onstage.
    "You are a great man. ... I am so proud to partner with you,"
    McIntosh
    replied.

    But the duo's partnership came to a screeching halt last week after >>>>>> the Club for Growth refused to end its negative ad campaign against >>>>>> Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance at the former President's behest and >>>>>> doubled down with new ads against the Trump-backed "Hillbilly Elegy" >>>>>> author. The group has backed former state treasurer Josh Mandel in >>>>>> the
    heated Republican primary for the seat being vacated by Sen. Rob
    Portman.

    Unnerved by McIntosh's defiance, Trump reportedly asked an
    intermediary to deliver a curt text message to him.

    "Go f--- yourself," it read.

    The two men haven't spoken since, according to a person close to
    Trump"
    [snip]

           Nope, absolutely no "messaging" getting out here. The poor >>>>>> orange dimwit is chained in a deep dark dungeon somewhere, with a gag >>>>>> firmly locked in place. He can't possibly be running around endorsing >>>>>> candidates right and left. He's the ultimate victim.

           Hey, "right and left" is just a figure of speech. In this >>>>>> instance I know it's more like endorsing candidates right and more >>>>>> right.

    TB

    None of your posted tripe matters to the issue at hand. That is that >>>>> liberals are afraid of something. You don't go all out to prevent
    something unless you have something to hide ("I didn't have sex with >>>>> that woman..."). My suspicion is they fear, among other things, the
    Facebook conservative censoring algorithms being outed.

         Lemmee see, you post so many layers of bullshit that it's
    frequently difficult to know where to start.

          My tripe may not be the "issue at hand for you", but, sad to say,
    the world does not revolve around you. I can post about whatever
    amuses me.

          Paranoid much? You have more fantasies going on than Disney. >>>> You're painting castles in the sky. I'm not special enough to see your >>>> castles. You're looking at something you don't like and don't
    understand
    so it *must* be some grand conspiracy against you and yours. You're
    hearing hoof beating and thinking giant fanged flying monkeys with 9
    eyes that glow in the dark.

          I have an old Jack Parr story for you that's suitable for
    children
    who are over excited at the thought of Christmas. IOW It's sort of a
    modern Mother Goose story about a man who had two sons--an optimist and >>>> a pessimist. On Christmas day the pessimist got every sort of gift you >>>> can think of. A fancy new sports car, a yuge flat screen TV, gaming
    consoles, hot and cold running maids. On and on, you name it--he got
    it.
    He's sitting there with a big scowl on his face asking what the
    catch is.

         The optimist has a room full of shit. He's got a huge grin on his >>>> face and he's digging as fast as he can. He says, "All this shit, there >>>> must be a pony!"

         Sometimes there is no pony. Sometimes it's just shit.

    TB


    Just more of your self-important nonsensical BS as a way of not
    answering a
    question.


         Your question is nonsensical and you can't name any "messaging"
    that isn't "getting out". I don't expect any answer to make sense to you.

    TB

    You refuse to answer the question "what you are afraid of?" so I'm
    though with you on this topic.

    I have answered precisely that question. I am not afraid of
    windmills. When you find something outside of your imagination for me to
    be afraid of please let me know and I'll tell you if I'm am actually
    afraid of it. So far you have nothing except for shadows on the walls
    and castles in the sky. You seem to be afraid of the question, "What in
    the hell "messaging" isn't "getting out?"

    You might as well be asking me when I stopped beating my wife?
    Actually, I haven't. It's just a classic response to your logical fallacy.

    "Messaging" is a great choice of words. I have a lot of
    professional experience with messaging. When I worked in the land of
    smoke and mirrors that is precisely what we were doing--messaging. Only
    we were transmitting messages for products and client companies. In the
    early days I did extremely simple messaging. I've worked on projects
    where I simply went to stores and placed stickers on boxes. If you
    progress in the industry you get into much more complex messaging. The
    big companies can send out armies of people to carry their message and
    massage the marketplace.

    One of the things I'm proud of is that I never drank the Cool-aid.
    Most of the time most of the managers have to at least sound like they
    drank the Cool-aid. "This is the most wonderful company in the world.
    They have the most wonderful products and messages. We're in love with
    this client." In products, politics and ideologies I don't drink the
    Cool-aid. You bathe in it.

    TB

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