On 4/19/2022 7:48 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

On 2022-04-18 22:48:27 +0000, Technobarbarian said:

On 4/18/2022 8:02 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

On 2022-04-17 16:42:23 +0000, Technobarbarian said:

On 4/17/2022 7:56 AM, Ralph E Lindberg wrote:

On 2022-04-16 21:10:47 +0000, Technobarbarian said:

      It's pretty sad. Oregon has dropped down to the the 8th most >>>>>> popular state to move to. In recent years we've been running
number 2 or 3. Living conditions are just terrible here. lqtm

Moving In
The top inbound states of 2021 were:

Work from Home has allowed many people to move to more "rural"
areas ... like where we live

      Yep, I'd like to move closer to the coast, but the housing
shortage there is even worse than it is here in the big city. OTOH
retired people are given credit for much of Florida's growth in
recent years.

      I was taking a closer look at Eastern Oregon and Washington >>>> for one of our up coming trips. One of the things that struck me is
that it looks like most of the small towns have at least one RV park.

TB

Yup, the coast up here too.... a friends Condo in Ocean Shores sold
the first day, for over listing price (and he is a Real Estate agent
in that town).

Speaking of unaffordable housing, been to Bend lately?  On the other
end is the dump known as Goldendale.

      I lived in Bend for several years late in the last century, so
I'm not a bit surprised by housing over there. Bend has been growing
rapidly for a long time. When I lived there you could get a permit to
remodel a home if you were saving at least one wall. I saw more than
one old wall become part of a bigger new home. I worked on a remodel
project for an older home that had started out as a garage. It was
worth remodeling because you couldn't get a permit to build a new home
in that spot. I haven't been over there in several years, but we're
planning a swinging through there in June.

      Because we're headed to the Maryhill museum I also expect to
swing through Goldendale next month. How bad is it? From a tourist's
perspective I couldn't see much reason for it to exist. They have a
barbecue joint that looks interesting.

TB

My sister, her X and her kids live(d) there.... It used to be a thriving town, based on Timber and Aluminum refining. Then both closed down.
After that the town/county leaders tried to attract the Retired Crowd
and well, that largely failed.
About the only thing going for it is the county seat, Mary Hill Museam,
a few places to eat and the State Park with the Telescope.
The RV parks are, marginal. The SP (campground)"up the pass" has power
lines passing right over it that cause an audible hum. The SP on the
river has train noise and road noise (ya we've tried every single one)

Cool, thanks. I done good then. This isn't going to be an RV trip.
One of the things that attracted me to Maupin is some cute little cabins
in a fishing camp that has been there for ages. The cabins were
originally used for crews building the railroad there. They look like
they've been nicely modernized, and I've never been to Maupin. That's a
good enough excuse for me.

I've seen the museum before and I'm only returning because my wife
is curious about what must be one of the oddest museums in the PNW. I
have a motel room reserved in Goldendale for a very reasonable price.
Now I know why the price was so reasonable.

I haven't been there for a very long time and my wife has never
been on the north side of the river further east than the Bridge of the
Gods, so we'll drive home on the north side crossing all the bridges
along the way at least once, until we get to the Bridge of the Gods again.

Your comments tie in nicely with this odd article about
communities that are trying to figure out what to do as their situation changes. I think this one is pretty silly, but they are at least
thinking in the right area. There is no reason that we can't build
housing faster and cheaper than we currently manage in a land with both abundant wood and land.

https://www.opb.org/article/2022/04/19/how-3d-printing-could-turn-an-eastern-oregon-town-into-a-high-tech-housing-hub/

"How 3D printing could turn an Eastern Oregon town into a high-tech
housing hub"

TB

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