• Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points

    From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 4 13:29:58 2022
    "Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of
    Washington arrival

    The American offshoot of the “Freedom Convoy” is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on Saturday."The American offshoot of the “Freedom Convoy” that brought chaos to Canada’s capital is promising to stop
    traffic outside of Washington, D.C., on Saturday, but exact plans
    remained vague Friday as the group hit its last pit stop in Maryland.

    The convoy, which was organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine channels
    on the Telegram messaging app, has picked up hundreds of cars and
    several trucks since the group left a rural parking lot in Adelanto, California, on Feb. 22.

    According to extremism researchers following the movement, the convoy
    now consists of several dozen tractor-trailer trucks and hundreds of
    cars. The group is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and
    ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on
    Saturday."

    "The group’s demands are now vague and tied to what they call “accountability,” according to Sara Aniano, an extremism researcher who
    has spent the last month following the convoy in its Telegram chats.

    “That could mean financial accountability. It could be physical accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their inability to distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern lies,” said
    Aniano, who recently published a report on QAnon’s growth after Jan. 6
    for the International Centere for the Study of Radicalization, a
    London-based nonprofit group."

    "But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the group’s channels
    have turned to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, where conspiracy-minded
    thinking has flourished. While some group members have admonished
    Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion, QAnon and
    anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized on a false
    conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military operation
    backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

    The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon
    mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working together to
    stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in Ukraine and that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories. Fauci,
    director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases,
    has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right conspiracy theories."

    "“In their fantasy, Trump comes back, and the military tribunals
    commence over Covid tests,” Aniano said. “But I don’t think they know what they want. They are just mad, and they want a reason to express that.”"

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Mar 4 17:18:41 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of
    Washington arrival

    The American offshoot of the “Freedom Convoy” is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on Saturday."The American offshoot of
    the “Freedom Convoy” that brought chaos to Canada’s capital is
    promising to stop traffic outside of Washington, D.C., on Saturday,
    but exact plans remained vague Friday as the group hit its last pit
    stop in Maryland.

    The convoy, which was organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine channels
    on the Telegram messaging app, has picked up hundreds of cars and
    several trucks since the group left a rural parking lot in Adelanto, California, on Feb. 22.

    According to extremism researchers following the movement, the convoy
    now consists of several dozen tractor-trailer trucks and hundreds of
    cars. The group is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and
    ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on Saturday."

    "The group’s demands are now vague and tied to what they call “accountability,” according to Sara Aniano, an extremism researcher who has spent the last month following the convoy in its
    Telegram chats.

    “That could mean financial accountability. It could be physical accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their inability to distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern lies,” said Aniano, who recently published a report on QAnon’s growth after Jan. 6 for the International Centere for the Study of Radicalization, a London-based nonprofit group."

    "But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the group’s
    channels have turned to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, where conspiracy-minded thinking has flourished. While some group members
    have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion,
    QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized on a
    false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military
    operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

    The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon
    mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working together
    to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in Ukraine and
    that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases,
    has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right conspiracy theories."

    "“In their fantasy, Trump comes back, and the military tribunals commence over Covid tests,” Aniano said. “But I don’t think they
    know what they want. They are just mad, and they want a reason to
    express that.”"

    "Accountability". I love it. I just bygod love it. It's right up there
    with the also overused "literally" and "efficacy" and "everything's on
    the table" and "at the end of the day going forward".

    Someone must be held accountable!
    Who must be held accountable for what?
    It doesn't matter who or what.
    At the end of the going forward, just literally hold someone
    efficaciously accountable for something.


    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat Mar 5 16:26:26 2022
    On 3/4/2022 2:18 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of
    Washington arrival

    The American offshoot of the “Freedom Convoy” is staging in
    Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and ramping up for its final protest
    somewhere in Washington, D.C., on Saturday."The American offshoot of
    the “Freedom Convoy” that brought chaos to Canada’s capital is
    promising to stop traffic outside of Washington, D.C., on Saturday,
    but exact plans remained vague Friday as the group hit its last pit
    stop in Maryland.

    The convoy, which was organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine channels
    on the Telegram messaging app, has picked up hundreds of cars and
    several trucks since the group left a rural parking lot in Adelanto,
    California, on Feb. 22.

    According to extremism researchers following the movement, the convoy
    now consists of several dozen tractor-trailer trucks and hundreds of
    cars. The group is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and
    ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on
    Saturday."

    "The group’s demands are now vague and tied to what they call
    “accountability,” according to Sara Aniano, an extremism
    researcher who has spent the last month following the convoy in its
    Telegram chats.

    “That could mean financial accountability. It could be physical
    accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their inability to
    distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern lies,” said >> Aniano, who recently published a report on QAnon’s growth after Jan. >> 6 for the International Centere for the Study of Radicalization, a
    London-based nonprofit group."

    "But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the group’s
    channels have turned to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, where
    conspiracy-minded thinking has flourished. While some group members
    have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion,
    QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized on a
    false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military
    operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

    The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon
    mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working together
    to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in Ukraine and
    that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories. Fauci,
    director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases,
    has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right conspiracy
    theories."

    "“In their fantasy, Trump comes back, and the military tribunals
    commence over Covid tests,” Aniano said. “But I don’t think they
    know what they want. They are just mad, and they want a reason to
    express that.”"

    "Accountability". I love it. I just bygod love it. It's right up there
    with the also overused "literally" and "efficacy" and "everything's on
    the table" and "at the end of the day going forward".

    Someone must be held accountable!
    Who must be held accountable for what?
    It doesn't matter who or what.
    At the end of the going forward, just literally hold someone
    efficaciously accountable for something.



    Hay, more "accountability":

    "‘Freedom Convoy’ spinoff rallies in Md. with about 1,000 vehicles and unclear plans"

    "HAGERSTOWN, Md. — They drove pickup trucks, RVs, 18-wheelers and
    minivans, some making a 2,500-mile journey from Southern California.
    More joined as the convoy passed through Amarillo, Tex., or rallied at a
    farm equipment supplier in Monrovia, Ind. And others came in Friday, as
    about 1,000 vehicles converged at a speedway in Hagerstown, Md., under
    the rallying cry of “freedom.”

    The truckers and their supporters are now the closest they have been to
    the nation’s capital, where they want to hold lawmakers “accountable”
    for the government’s pandemic responses. Their plans for coming days
    remained opaque on Saturday afternoon, but organizers said they intended
    to stay in Hagerstown — about an hour’s drive from the Beltway — for the rest of the day and hold a rally in the evening.

    The convoy’s motives are muddy, too. People gathered in the western
    Maryland city described frustrations with workplace vaccine mandates and
    other measures meant to limit the spread of the coronavirus — even
    though those rules have now been lifted in many places. The speedway
    crowds chanted anti-President Biden slogans and displayed support for
    former president Donald Trump. Extremism analysts point to a broader set
    of right-wing causes that have motivated participants.

    Trucks and cars filed into the speedway complex Saturday morning,
    passing under an American flag waving from a cable between two 30-foot
    booms attached to semi tow-trucks. Within, truckers and their supporters
    were waking up after the Friday night rally. Most in the crowd were
    White men, but there were also some young children and dogs.

    Rows and rows of tanker trucks, flatbeds, box trailers, RVs and pickup
    trucks lined the parking lot, bearing license plates from Utah, Maine, Arkansas, Texas and other states. A chorus of honking horns blared from
    the area where the convoy vehicles were stacked in lines, awaiting their
    next move.

    On Friday night, Brian Brase, a convoy organizer, looked out at the
    crowd — some dressed in red-white-and-blue beanies and waving American
    flags — and told them to celebrate the distance they had traveled. But
    they would have to wait longer to learn their final destination and what
    to do when they get there.

    “Well, we’re going to do something,” he said, laughing. “What this is is
    yet to be determined. Please be patient.”"
    [snip]

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/05/peoples-convoy-protest-hagerstown/

    TB

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  • From filmbydon@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sat Mar 5 20:17:52 2022
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 4:26:30 PM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/4/2022 2:18 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of
    Washington arrival

    The American offshoot of the “Freedom Convoy†is staging in
    Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and ramping up for its final protest
    somewhere in Washington, D.C., on Saturday."The American offshoot of
    the “Freedom Convoy†that brought chaos to Canada’s capital is
    promising to stop traffic outside of Washington, D.C., on Saturday,
    but exact plans remained vague Friday as the group hit its last pit
    stop in Maryland.

    The convoy, which was organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine channels
    on the Telegram messaging app, has picked up hundreds of cars and
    several trucks since the group left a rural parking lot in Adelanto,
    California, on Feb. 22.

    According to extremism researchers following the movement, the convoy
    now consists of several dozen tractor-trailer trucks and hundreds of
    cars. The group is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and
    ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on
    Saturday."

    "The group’s demands are now vague and tied to what they call
    “accountability,†according to Sara Aniano, an extremism
    researcher who has spent the last month following the convoy in its
    Telegram chats.

    “That could mean financial accountability. It could be physical
    accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their inability to
    distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern lies,†said >> Aniano, who recently published a report on QAnon’s growth after Jan.
    6 for the International Centere for the Study of Radicalization, a
    London-based nonprofit group."

    "But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the group’s
    channels have turned to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, where
    conspiracy-minded thinking has flourished. While some group members
    have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion,
    QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized on a
    false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military
    operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

    The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon
    mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working together
    to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in Ukraine and
    that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories. Fauci,
    director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases,
    has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right conspiracy
    theories."

    "“In their fantasy, Trump comes back, and the military tribunals
    commence over Covid tests,†Aniano said. “But I don’t think they
    know what they want. They are just mad, and they want a reason to
    express that.†"

    "Accountability". I love it. I just bygod love it. It's right up there with the also overused "literally" and "efficacy" and "everything's on
    the table" and "at the end of the day going forward".

    Someone must be held accountable!
    Who must be held accountable for what?
    It doesn't matter who or what.
    At the end of the going forward, just literally hold someone
    efficaciously accountable for something.


    Hay, more "accountability":

    "‘Freedom Convoy’ spinoff rallies in Md. with about 1,000 vehicles and unclear plans"

    "HAGERSTOWN, Md. — They drove pickup trucks, RVs, 18-wheelers and minivans, some making a 2,500-mile journey from Southern California.
    More joined as the convoy passed through Amarillo, Tex., or rallied at a farm equipment supplier in Monrovia, Ind. And others came in Friday, as about 1,000 vehicles converged at a speedway in Hagerstown, Md., under
    the rallying cry of “freedom.”

    The truckers and their supporters are now the closest they have been to
    the nation’s capital, where they want to hold lawmakers “accountable” for the government’s pandemic responses. Their plans for coming days remained opaque on Saturday afternoon, but organizers said they intended
    to stay in Hagerstown — about an hour’s drive from the Beltway — for the
    rest of the day and hold a rally in the evening.

    The convoy’s motives are muddy, too. People gathered in the western Maryland city described frustrations with workplace vaccine mandates and other measures meant to limit the spread of the coronavirus — even
    though those rules have now been lifted in many places. The speedway
    crowds chanted anti-President Biden slogans and displayed support for
    former president Donald Trump. Extremism analysts point to a broader set
    of right-wing causes that have motivated participants.

    Trucks and cars filed into the speedway complex Saturday morning,
    passing under an American flag waving from a cable between two 30-foot
    booms attached to semi tow-trucks. Within, truckers and their supporters were waking up after the Friday night rally. Most in the crowd were
    White men, but there were also some young children and dogs.

    Rows and rows of tanker trucks, flatbeds, box trailers, RVs and pickup trucks lined the parking lot, bearing license plates from Utah, Maine, Arkansas, Texas and other states. A chorus of honking horns blared from
    the area where the convoy vehicles were stacked in lines, awaiting their next move.

    On Friday night, Brian Brase, a convoy organizer, looked out at the
    crowd — some dressed in red-white-and-blue beanies and waving American flags — and told them to celebrate the distance they had traveled. But they would have to wait longer to learn their final destination and what
    to do when they get there.

    “Well, we’re going to do something,” he said, laughing. “What this is is
    yet to be determined. Please be patient.”"
    [snip]

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/05/peoples-convoy-protest-hagerstown/

    TB

    Sounds like they're all dressed up - With no place to go? I can relate to their unfulfilled angst, or at least, see that calling in others... Some folks just love to protest against things they see as some kind of an injustice.... It's a bonding
    time for those involved, where they're a winning team, "stickin' to the status quo!" It's a lot like die hard sports fan behavior....

    Che Guevara Jr...

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to film...@gmail.com on Sat Mar 5 22:00:15 2022
    On 3/5/2022 8:17 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 4:26:30 PM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/4/2022 2:18 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of
    Washington arrival

    The American offshoot of the “Freedom Convoy†is staging in
    Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and ramping up for its final protest
    somewhere in Washington, D.C., on Saturday."The American offshoot of
    the “Freedom Convoy†that brought chaos to Canada’s capital is
    promising to stop traffic outside of Washington, D.C., on Saturday,
    but exact plans remained vague Friday as the group hit its last pit
    stop in Maryland.

    The convoy, which was organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine channels >>>> on the Telegram messaging app, has picked up hundreds of cars and
    several trucks since the group left a rural parking lot in Adelanto,
    California, on Feb. 22.

    According to extremism researchers following the movement, the convoy
    now consists of several dozen tractor-trailer trucks and hundreds of
    cars. The group is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and
    ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on
    Saturday."

    "The group’s demands are now vague and tied to what they call
    “accountability,†according to Sara Aniano, an extremism
    researcher who has spent the last month following the convoy in its
    Telegram chats.

    “That could mean financial accountability. It could be physical
    accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their inability to
    distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern lies,†said >>>> Aniano, who recently published a report on QAnon’s growth after Jan.
    6 for the International Centere for the Study of Radicalization, a
    London-based nonprofit group."

    "But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the group’s
    channels have turned to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, where
    conspiracy-minded thinking has flourished. While some group members
    have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion,
    QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized on a
    false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military
    operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

    The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon
    mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working together
    to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in Ukraine and >>>> that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories. Fauci,
    director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, >>>> has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right conspiracy >>>> theories."

    "“In their fantasy, Trump comes back, and the military tribunals >>>> commence over Covid tests,†Aniano said. “But I don’t think they
    know what they want. They are just mad, and they want a reason to
    express that.†"

    "Accountability". I love it. I just bygod love it. It's right up there
    with the also overused "literally" and "efficacy" and "everything's on
    the table" and "at the end of the day going forward".

    Someone must be held accountable!
    Who must be held accountable for what?
    It doesn't matter who or what.
    At the end of the going forward, just literally hold someone
    efficaciously accountable for something.


    Hay, more "accountability":

    "‘Freedom Convoy’ spinoff rallies in Md. with about 1,000 vehicles and >> unclear plans"

    "HAGERSTOWN, Md. — They drove pickup trucks, RVs, 18-wheelers and
    minivans, some making a 2,500-mile journey from Southern California.
    More joined as the convoy passed through Amarillo, Tex., or rallied at a
    farm equipment supplier in Monrovia, Ind. And others came in Friday, as
    about 1,000 vehicles converged at a speedway in Hagerstown, Md., under
    the rallying cry of “freedom.”

    The truckers and their supporters are now the closest they have been to
    the nation’s capital, where they want to hold lawmakers “accountable” >> for the government’s pandemic responses. Their plans for coming days
    remained opaque on Saturday afternoon, but organizers said they intended
    to stay in Hagerstown — about an hour’s drive from the Beltway — for the
    rest of the day and hold a rally in the evening.

    The convoy’s motives are muddy, too. People gathered in the western
    Maryland city described frustrations with workplace vaccine mandates and
    other measures meant to limit the spread of the coronavirus — even
    though those rules have now been lifted in many places. The speedway
    crowds chanted anti-President Biden slogans and displayed support for
    former president Donald Trump. Extremism analysts point to a broader set
    of right-wing causes that have motivated participants.

    Trucks and cars filed into the speedway complex Saturday morning,
    passing under an American flag waving from a cable between two 30-foot
    booms attached to semi tow-trucks. Within, truckers and their supporters
    were waking up after the Friday night rally. Most in the crowd were
    White men, but there were also some young children and dogs.

    Rows and rows of tanker trucks, flatbeds, box trailers, RVs and pickup
    trucks lined the parking lot, bearing license plates from Utah, Maine,
    Arkansas, Texas and other states. A chorus of honking horns blared from
    the area where the convoy vehicles were stacked in lines, awaiting their
    next move.

    On Friday night, Brian Brase, a convoy organizer, looked out at the
    crowd — some dressed in red-white-and-blue beanies and waving American
    flags — and told them to celebrate the distance they had traveled. But
    they would have to wait longer to learn their final destination and what
    to do when they get there.

    “Well, we’re going to do something,” he said, laughing. “What this is is
    yet to be determined. Please be patient.”"
    [snip]

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/05/peoples-convoy-protest-hagerstown/

    TB

    Sounds like they're all dressed up - With no place to go? I can relate to their unfulfilled angst, or at least, see that calling in others... Some folks just love to protest against things they see as some kind of an injustice.... It's a bonding
    time for those involved, where they're a winning team, "stickin' to the status quo!" It's a lot like die hard sports fan behavior....

    Che Guevara Jr...

    I think you're onto something here. Sooner or later someone is
    going to turn protestin' into a competitive sport, with teams. They
    could steal ideas from other unreality shows and add new ones. Give it
    all sorts of pizazz, romance and sex appeal. It could be progressive and include all sorts of ridiculous convoys. They could start with
    protestin' in the middle of nowhere and work their way up to the BIG
    TIME--DC, BAY-BE! Or maybe Moscow. They'll leave the NFL in the dust and
    make a ton of money. Eventually we'll probably elect a winning team
    captain to be the President of the United States and a former topless/bottomless protestin' cheerleader will probably be his first lady.

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sun Mar 6 03:44:26 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/5/2022 8:17 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 4:26:30 PM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/4/2022 2:18 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of
    Washington arrival

    The American offshoot of the “Freedom Convoy†is
    staging in
    Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and ramping up for its final protest >>>>> somewhere in Washington, D.C., on Saturday."The American offshoot of >>>>> the “Freedom Convoy†that brought chaos to >>>>> Canada’s capital is
    promising to stop traffic outside of Washington, D.C., on Saturday,
    but exact plans remained vague Friday as the group hit its last pit
    stop in Maryland.

    The convoy, which was organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine
    channels
    on the Telegram messaging app, has picked up hundreds of cars and
    several trucks since the group left a rural parking lot in Adelanto, >>>>> California, on Feb. 22.

    According to extremism researchers following the movement, the
    convoy
    now consists of several dozen tractor-trailer trucks and hundreds of >>>>> cars. The group is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and
    ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on
    Saturday."

    "The group’s demands are now vague and tied to what they call
    “accountability,†according to Sara Aniano, an extremism
    researcher who has spent the last month following the convoy in its
    Telegram chats.

    “That could mean financial accountability. It could be >>>>> physical
    accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their inability to >>>>> distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern
    lies,†said
    Aniano, who recently published a report on QAnon’s growth
    after Jan.
    6 for the International Centere for the Study of Radicalization, a
    London-based nonprofit group."

    "But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the group’s
    channels have turned to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, where
    conspiracy-minded thinking has flourished. While some group members
    have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion,
    QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized
    on a
    false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military
    operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

    The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon
    mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working
    together
    to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in
    Ukraine and
    that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories.
    Fauci,
    director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
    Diseases,
    has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right
    conspiracy
    theories."

    "“In their fantasy, Trump comes back, and the military >>>>> tribunals
    commence over Covid tests,†Aniano said. “But I >>>>> don’t think they
    know what they want. They are just mad, and they want a reason to
    express that.†"

    "Accountability". I love it. I just bygod love it. It's right up
    there
    with the also overused "literally" and "efficacy" and
    "everything's on
    the table" and "at the end of the day going forward".

    Someone must be held accountable!
    Who must be held accountable for what?
    It doesn't matter who or what.
    At the end of the going forward, just literally hold someone
    efficaciously accountable for something.


    Hay, more "accountability":

    "‘Freedom Convoy’ spinoff rallies in Md. with about 1,000
    vehicles and
    unclear plans"

    "HAGERSTOWN, Md. — They drove pickup trucks, RVs, 18-wheelers and >>> minivans, some making a 2,500-mile journey from Southern California.
    More joined as the convoy passed through Amarillo, Tex., or rallied
    at a
    farm equipment supplier in Monrovia, Ind. And others came in
    Friday, as
    about 1,000 vehicles converged at a speedway in Hagerstown, Md., under
    the rallying cry of “freedom.”

    The truckers and their supporters are now the closest they have
    been to
    the nation’s capital, where they want to hold lawmakers
    “accountable”
    for the government’s pandemic responses. Their plans for coming days >>> remained opaque on Saturday afternoon, but organizers said they
    intended
    to stay in Hagerstown — about an hour’s drive from the Beltway
    — for the
    rest of the day and hold a rally in the evening.

    The convoy’s motives are muddy, too. People gathered in the western >>> Maryland city described frustrations with workplace vaccine
    mandates and
    other measures meant to limit the spread of the coronavirus — even >>> though those rules have now been lifted in many places. The speedway
    crowds chanted anti-President Biden slogans and displayed support for
    former president Donald Trump. Extremism analysts point to a
    broader set
    of right-wing causes that have motivated participants.

    Trucks and cars filed into the speedway complex Saturday morning,
    passing under an American flag waving from a cable between two 30-foot
    booms attached to semi tow-trucks. Within, truckers and their
    supporters
    were waking up after the Friday night rally. Most in the crowd were
    White men, but there were also some young children and dogs.

    Rows and rows of tanker trucks, flatbeds, box trailers, RVs and pickup
    trucks lined the parking lot, bearing license plates from Utah, Maine,
    Arkansas, Texas and other states. A chorus of honking horns blared
    from
    the area where the convoy vehicles were stacked in lines, awaiting
    their
    next move.

    On Friday night, Brian Brase, a convoy organizer, looked out at the
    crowd — some dressed in red-white-and-blue beanies and waving
    American
    flags — and told them to celebrate the distance they had
    traveled. But
    they would have to wait longer to learn their final destination and
    what
    to do when they get there.

    “Well, we’re going to do something,” he said, laughing. >>> “What this is is
    yet to be determined. Please be patient.”"
    [snip]

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/05/peoples-convoy-protest-hagerstown/


    TB

    Sounds like they're all dressed up  -  With no place to go?  I can
    relate to their unfulfilled angst,  or at least,  see that calling
    in others...  Some folks just love to protest against things they
    see as some kind of an injustice....  It's a bonding time for those
    involved,  where they're a winning team, "stickin' to the status
    quo!"   It's a lot like die hard sports fan behavior....

    Che Guevara Jr...

          I think you're onto something here. Sooner or later someone is going to turn protestin' into a competitive sport, with teams. They
    could steal ideas from other unreality shows and add new ones. Give it
    all sorts of pizazz, romance and sex appeal. It could be progressive
    and include all sorts of ridiculous convoys. They could start with protestin' in the middle of nowhere and work their way up to the BIG TIME--DC, BAY-BE! Or maybe Moscow. They'll leave the NFL in the dust
    and make a ton of money. Eventually we'll probably elect a winning
    team captain to be the President of the United States and a former topless/bottomless protestin' cheerleader will probably be his first
    lady.

    At the end of the day going forward, that would make Presidential
    campaigning literally a lot more interesting than it's ever been in
    all of my history.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Sun Mar 6 08:26:13 2022
    On 3/6/2022 12:44 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/5/2022 8:17 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 4:26:30 PM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/4/2022 2:18 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of
    Washington arrival

    The American offshoot of the “Freedom Convoy†is staging in
    Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and ramping up for its final protest >>>>>> somewhere in Washington, D.C., on Saturday."The American offshoot of >>>>>> the “Freedom Convoy†that brought chaos to >>>>>> Canada’s capital is
    promising to stop traffic outside of Washington, D.C., on Saturday, >>>>>> but exact plans remained vague Friday as the group hit its last pit >>>>>> stop in Maryland.

    The convoy, which was organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine
    channels
    on the Telegram messaging app, has picked up hundreds of cars and
    several trucks since the group left a rural parking lot in Adelanto, >>>>>> California, on Feb. 22.

    According to extremism researchers following the movement, the convoy >>>>>> now consists of several dozen tractor-trailer trucks and hundreds of >>>>>> cars. The group is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and
    ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on >>>>>> Saturday."

    "The group’s demands are now vague and tied to what they call
    “accountability,†according to Sara Aniano, an extremism
    researcher who has spent the last month following the convoy in its >>>>>> Telegram chats.

    “That could mean financial accountability. It could be physical
    accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their inability to >>>>>> distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern
    lies,†said
    Aniano, who recently published a report on QAnon’s growth
    after Jan.
    6 for the International Centere for the Study of Radicalization, a >>>>>> London-based nonprofit group."

    "But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the group’s
    channels have turned to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, where
    conspiracy-minded thinking has flourished. While some group members >>>>>> have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion, >>>>>> QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized on a >>>>>> false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military
    operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

    The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon
    mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working together >>>>>> to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in Ukraine >>>>>> and
    that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories. Fauci, >>>>>> director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
    Diseases,
    has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right
    conspiracy
    theories."

    "“In their fantasy, Trump comes back, and the military >>>>>> tribunals
    commence over Covid tests,†Aniano said. “But I >>>>>> don’t think they
    know what they want. They are just mad, and they want a reason to
    express that.†"

    "Accountability". I love it. I just bygod love it. It's right up there >>>>> with the also overused "literally" and "efficacy" and "everything's on >>>>> the table" and "at the end of the day going forward".

    Someone must be held accountable!
    Who must be held accountable for what?
    It doesn't matter who or what.
    At the end of the going forward, just literally hold someone
    efficaciously accountable for something.


    Hay, more "accountability":

    "‘Freedom Convoy’ spinoff rallies in Md. with about 1,000 >>>> vehicles and
    unclear plans"

    "HAGERSTOWN, Md. — They drove pickup trucks, RVs, 18-wheelers and >>>> minivans, some making a 2,500-mile journey from Southern California.
    More joined as the convoy passed through Amarillo, Tex., or rallied
    at a
    farm equipment supplier in Monrovia, Ind. And others came in Friday, as >>>> about 1,000 vehicles converged at a speedway in Hagerstown, Md., under >>>> the rallying cry of “freedom.”

    The truckers and their supporters are now the closest they have been to >>>> the nation’s capital, where they want to hold lawmakers
    “accountable”
    for the government’s pandemic responses. Their plans for coming days
    remained opaque on Saturday afternoon, but organizers said they
    intended
    to stay in Hagerstown — about an hour’s drive from the Beltway
    — for the
    rest of the day and hold a rally in the evening.

    The convoy’s motives are muddy, too. People gathered in the western >>>> Maryland city described frustrations with workplace vaccine mandates
    and
    other measures meant to limit the spread of the coronavirus — even >>>> though those rules have now been lifted in many places. The speedway
    crowds chanted anti-President Biden slogans and displayed support for
    former president Donald Trump. Extremism analysts point to a broader
    set
    of right-wing causes that have motivated participants.

    Trucks and cars filed into the speedway complex Saturday morning,
    passing under an American flag waving from a cable between two 30-foot >>>> booms attached to semi tow-trucks. Within, truckers and their
    supporters
    were waking up after the Friday night rally. Most in the crowd were
    White men, but there were also some young children and dogs.

    Rows and rows of tanker trucks, flatbeds, box trailers, RVs and pickup >>>> trucks lined the parking lot, bearing license plates from Utah, Maine, >>>> Arkansas, Texas and other states. A chorus of honking horns blared from >>>> the area where the convoy vehicles were stacked in lines, awaiting
    their
    next move.

    On Friday night, Brian Brase, a convoy organizer, looked out at the
    crowd — some dressed in red-white-and-blue beanies and waving
    American
    flags — and told them to celebrate the distance they had traveled. >>>> But
    they would have to wait longer to learn their final destination and
    what
    to do when they get there.

    “Well, we’re going to do something,” he said, laughing. >>>> “What this is is
    yet to be determined. Please be patient.”"
    [snip]

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/05/peoples-convoy-protest-hagerstown/


    TB

    Sounds like they're all dressed up  -  With no place to go?  I can
    relate to their unfulfilled angst,  or at least,  see that calling in
    others...  Some folks just love to protest against things they see as
    some kind of an injustice....  It's a bonding time for those
    involved,  where they're a winning team, "stickin' to the status
    quo!"   It's a lot like die hard sports fan behavior....

    Che Guevara Jr...

           I think you're onto something here. Sooner or later someone is >> going to turn protestin' into a competitive sport, with teams. They
    could steal ideas from other unreality shows and add new ones. Give it
    all sorts of pizazz, romance and sex appeal. It could be progressive
    and include all sorts of ridiculous convoys. They could start with
    protestin' in the middle of nowhere and work their way up to the BIG
    TIME--DC, BAY-BE! Or maybe Moscow. They'll leave the NFL in the dust
    and make a ton of money. Eventually we'll probably elect a winning
    team captain to be the President of the United States and a former
    topless/bottomless protestin' cheerleader will probably be his first
    lady.

    At the end of the day going forward, that would make Presidential
    campaigning literally a lot more interesting than it's ever been in all
    of my history.


    I think the internet has made it inevitable that politics will
    become more entertaining. I don't blame Sarah Palin or the orange clown.
    They were just pioneers in their field. Who would have thunk it? I can
    remember when trolls were considered among the lowest of the low. Child molesters and spammers were about the only people lower. Now it's a
    valid career choice and it can get you elected to the highest office in
    the land. One of my favorite recent idiot quotes is that he knew he
    needed to include "just the right amount of crazy" in his tweets.

    I had gotten tired of that old "presidential" bullshit. But I
    found that I missed it and have developed a fondness for old fashioned
    boring bureaucrats. Hopefully they'll still be there, in the background,
    after the TV stars take over.

    Mean while, back with the truckers. Remember the truckers?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/05/us/trucker-convoy-washington-protest.html

    "Truckers protesting Covid mandates are amassing outside the capital.
    The convoy and its supporters could move into Washington to hold rallies."

    https://www.newsweek.com/trucker-convoy-delays-dc-arrival-plans-all-day-maryland-rally-instead-1685238

    "Sara Aniano, a researcher focusing on far-right conspiracy theories and misinformation, said that the lack of clarity around "accountability"
    raises concerns.

    "That could mean financial accountability. It could be physical
    accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their inability to distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern lies," said
    Aniano, according to NBC News.

    She also noted that supporters of the convoy believe that they are the
    ones responsible for the loosening of COVID-19 rules in the U.S."

    https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-03-06/peoples-convoy-truck-protest-drives-laps-around-washington

    "'People's Convoy' Truck Protest Drives Laps Around Washington

    By Reuters
    |
    March 6, 2022, at 10:36 a.m."

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Hundreds of trucks, recreational vehicles and
    cars were circling the outskirts of Washington on Sunday, threatening to
    cause traffic backups around the capital as part of a protest against
    COVID-19 restrictions.

    The so-called "People's Convoy," which originated in California and has
    drawn participants from around the country, is calling for an end to all pandemic-related restrictions. It was inspired by demonstrations last
    month that paralyzed Ottawa, Canada's capital city.

    The convoy's message has been undercut in recent weeks as major U.S.
    cities have rolled back mask mandates and other measures against
    COVID-19. President Joe Biden, a Democrat, signaled in his State of the
    Union speech on Tuesday that the country was entering a new, more
    controlled phase of the pandemic without business lockdowns or school
    closures.

    But that did not stop hundreds of vehicles from gathering on Friday and Saturday at the Hagerstown Speedway, a racetrack in Maryland about 80
    miles (129 km) northwest of downtown Washington.

    On Sunday morning, many left in convoy to drive slow laps around the
    Beltway, a highway that encircles the city. They honked their horns as
    they set off, while onlookers waved American flags, according to a
    Reuters witness.

    It remained unclear whether the convoy would drive into downtown
    Washington. Organizers said the plan for Sunday was to stay on the
    Beltway then head back to Hagerstown."

    It might be a good show................, or maybe not. I think a
    lot of people are going to be disappointed if they don't make a bigger
    splash. Naturally, everyone will declare victory. It's a time honored tradition.

    TB

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sun Mar 6 12:42:29 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/6/2022 12:44 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/5/2022 8:17 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 4:26:30 PM UTC-8, Technobarbarian
    wrote:
    On 3/4/2022 2:18 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of
    Washington arrival

    The American offshoot of the “Freedom
    Convoy†is staging in
    Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and ramping up for its final
    protest
    somewhere in Washington, D.C., on Saturday."The American
    offshoot of
    the “Freedom Convoy†that brought
    chaos to Canada’s capital is >>>>>>> promising to stop traffic outside of Washington, D.C., on
    Saturday,
    but exact plans remained vague Friday as the group hit its last >>>>>>> pit
    stop in Maryland.

    The convoy, which was organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine
    channels
    on the Telegram messaging app, has picked up hundreds of cars and >>>>>>> several trucks since the group left a rural parking lot in
    Adelanto,
    California, on Feb. 22.

    According to extremism researchers following the movement, the
    convoy
    now consists of several dozen tractor-trailer trucks and
    hundreds of
    cars. The group is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and >>>>>>> ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on >>>>>>> Saturday."

    "The group’s demands are now vague and tied to
    what they call
    “accountability,†according to Sara
    Aniano, an extremism
    researcher who has spent the last month following the convoy in >>>>>>> its
    Telegram chats.

    “That could mean financial accountability. It
    could be physical
    accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their
    inability to
    distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern
    lies,†said
    Aniano, who recently published a report on
    QAnon’s growth after Jan.
    6 for the International Centere for the Study of Radicalization, a >>>>>>> London-based nonprofit group."

    "But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the
    group’s
    channels have turned to Russia’s invasion of
    Ukraine, where
    conspiracy-minded thinking has flourished. While some group
    members
    have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion, >>>>>>> QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have
    seized on a
    false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military
    operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

    The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon
    mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working
    together
    to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in
    Ukraine and
    that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories.
    Fauci,
    director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
    Diseases,
    has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right
    conspiracy
    theories."

    "“In their fantasy, Trump comes back, and the
    military tribunals
    commence over Covid tests,†Aniano said.
    “But I don’t think they
    know what they want. They are just mad, and they want a reason to >>>>>>> express that.†"

    "Accountability". I love it. I just bygod love it. It's right up
    there
    with the also overused "literally" and "efficacy" and
    "everything's on
    the table" and "at the end of the day going forward".

    Someone must be held accountable!
    Who must be held accountable for what?
    It doesn't matter who or what.
    At the end of the going forward, just literally hold someone
    efficaciously accountable for something.


    Hay, more "accountability":

    "‘Freedom Convoy’ spinoff rallies in Md. with about
    1,000 vehicles and
    unclear plans"

    "HAGERSTOWN, Md. — They drove pickup trucks, RVs,
    18-wheelers and
    minivans, some making a 2,500-mile journey from Southern California. >>>>> More joined as the convoy passed through Amarillo, Tex., or
    rallied at a
    farm equipment supplier in Monrovia, Ind. And others came in
    Friday, as
    about 1,000 vehicles converged at a speedway in Hagerstown, Md.,
    under
    the rallying cry of “freedom.”

    The truckers and their supporters are now the closest they have
    been to
    the nation’s capital, where they want to hold lawmakers >>>>> “accountable”
    for the government’s pandemic responses. Their plans for
    coming days
    remained opaque on Saturday afternoon, but organizers said they
    intended
    to stay in Hagerstown — about an hour’s drive from
    the Beltway — for the
    rest of the day and hold a rally in the evening.

    The convoy’s motives are muddy, too. People gathered in >>>>> the western
    Maryland city described frustrations with workplace vaccine
    mandates and
    other measures meant to limit the spread of the coronavirus
    — even
    though those rules have now been lifted in many places. The speedway >>>>> crowds chanted anti-President Biden slogans and displayed support
    for
    former president Donald Trump. Extremism analysts point to a
    broader set
    of right-wing causes that have motivated participants.

    Trucks and cars filed into the speedway complex Saturday morning,
    passing under an American flag waving from a cable between two
    30-foot
    booms attached to semi tow-trucks. Within, truckers and their
    supporters
    were waking up after the Friday night rally. Most in the crowd were
    White men, but there were also some young children and dogs.

    Rows and rows of tanker trucks, flatbeds, box trailers, RVs and
    pickup
    trucks lined the parking lot, bearing license plates from Utah,
    Maine,
    Arkansas, Texas and other states. A chorus of honking horns
    blared from
    the area where the convoy vehicles were stacked in lines,
    awaiting their
    next move.

    On Friday night, Brian Brase, a convoy organizer, looked out at the
    crowd — some dressed in red-white-and-blue beanies and >>>>> waving American
    flags — and told them to celebrate the distance they had
    traveled. But
    they would have to wait longer to learn their final destination
    and what
    to do when they get there.

    “Well, we’re going to do something,” he said,
    laughing. “What this is is
    yet to be determined. Please be patient.”"
    [snip]

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/05/peoples-convoy-protest-hagerstown/


    TB

    Sounds like they're all dressed up  -  With no place to go?  I >>>> can relate to their unfulfilled angst,  or at least,  see that
    calling in others...  Some folks just love to protest against
    things they see as some kind of an injustice....  It's a bonding
    time for those involved,  where they're a winning team, "stickin'
    to the status quo!"   It's a lot like die hard sports fan
    behavior....

    Che Guevara Jr...

           I think you're onto something here. Sooner or later
    someone is going to turn protestin' into a competitive sport, with
    teams. They could steal ideas from other unreality shows and add
    new ones. Give it all sorts of pizazz, romance and sex appeal. It
    could be progressive and include all sorts of ridiculous convoys.
    They could start with protestin' in the middle of nowhere and work
    their way up to the BIG TIME--DC, BAY-BE! Or maybe Moscow. They'll
    leave the NFL in the dust and make a ton of money. Eventually we'll
    probably elect a winning team captain to be the President of the
    United States and a former topless/bottomless protestin'
    cheerleader will probably be his first lady.

    At the end of the day going forward, that would make Presidential
    campaigning literally a lot more interesting than it's ever been in
    all of my history.


          I think the internet has made it inevitable that politics will become more entertaining. I don't blame Sarah Palin or the orange
    clown. They were just pioneers in their field. Who would have thunk
    it? I can remember when trolls were considered among the lowest of the
    low. Child molesters and spammers were about the only people lower.
    Now it's a valid career choice and it can get you elected to the
    highest office in the land. One of my favorite recent idiot quotes is
    that he knew he needed to include "just the right amount of crazy" in
    his tweets.

    In keeping with the new fad to overuse previously little-used words
    and phrases in order to seem more educated and intellectual, I allege
    that I predict that trolls will soon come to be known as
    "controversialists". And I have cherry-picked the Cambridge Dictionary definition to support that allegation: -------------------------------------------
    controversialist
    noun [ C ]

    a person who likes to disagree with other people and say things that
    make people angry...
    --------------------------------------------

         I had gotten tired of that old "presidential" bullshit. But I found that I missed it and have developed a fondness for old fashioned
    boring bureaucrats. Hopefully they'll still be there, in the
    background, after the TV stars take over.

         Mean while, back with the truckers. Remember the truckers?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/05/us/trucker-convoy-washington-protest.html


    "Truckers protesting Covid mandates are amassing outside the capital.
    The convoy and its supporters could move into Washington to hold
    rallies."

    https://www.newsweek.com/trucker-convoy-delays-dc-arrival-plans-all-day-maryland-rally-instead-1685238


    "Sara Aniano, a researcher focusing on far-right conspiracy theories
    and misinformation, said that the lack of clarity around
    "accountability" raises concerns.

    "That could mean financial accountability. It could be physical accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their inability to distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern lies," said
    Aniano, according to NBC News.

    She also noted that supporters of the convoy believe that they are the
    ones responsible for the loosening of COVID-19 rules in the U.S."

    https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-03-06/peoples-convoy-truck-protest-drives-laps-around-washington


    "'People's Convoy' Truck Protest Drives Laps Around Washington

    By Reuters
    |
    March 6, 2022, at 10:36 a.m."

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Hundreds of trucks, recreational vehicles and
    cars were circling the outskirts of Washington on Sunday, threatening
    to cause traffic backups around the capital as part of a protest
    against COVID-19 restrictions.

    The so-called "People's Convoy," which originated in California and
    has drawn participants from around the country, is calling for an end
    to all pandemic-related restrictions. It was inspired by
    demonstrations last month that paralyzed Ottawa, Canada's capital city.

    The convoy's message has been undercut in recent weeks as major U.S.
    cities have rolled back mask mandates and other measures against
    COVID-19. President Joe Biden, a Democrat, signaled in his State of
    the Union speech on Tuesday that the country was entering a new, more controlled phase of the pandemic without business lockdowns or school closures.

    But that did not stop hundreds of vehicles from gathering on Friday
    and Saturday at the Hagerstown Speedway, a racetrack in Maryland about
    80 miles (129 km) northwest of downtown Washington.

    On Sunday morning, many left in convoy to drive slow laps around the Beltway, a highway that encircles the city. They honked their horns as
    they set off, while onlookers waved American flags, according to a
    Reuters witness.

    It remained unclear whether the convoy would drive into downtown
    Washington. Organizers said the plan for Sunday was to stay on the
    Beltway then head back to Hagerstown."

         It might be a good show................, or maybe not. I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed if they don't make a bigger splash. Naturally, everyone will declare victory. It's a time honored tradition.

    While those truckers were convoying across the country from
    California, they should have transported some Chinese goods to relieve
    the supply chain "issue".

    And while I'm allegating, I further allege that before we celebrate
    declaring the victory of 'back to normal', that we wait for The
    Science to tell us that this is not the calm before the storm of the
    rise of the next Covid mutant. And after all, if we Follow the
    Science, we'll never be wrong - we'll just be evolving.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Sun Mar 6 10:24:15 2022
    On 3/6/2022 9:42 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    In keeping with the new fad to overuse previously little-used words and phrases in order to seem more educated and intellectual, I allege that I predict that trolls will soon come to be known as "controversialists".
    And I have cherry-picked the Cambridge Dictionary definition to support
    that allegation:
    -------------------------------------------
    controversialist
    noun [ C ]

    a person who likes to disagree with other people and say things that
    make people angry...
    --------------------------------------------

    I like it, but I don't know if we've ever had anyone like that here.


    While those truckers were convoying across the country from California,
    they should have transported some Chinese goods to relieve the supply
    chain "issue".

    And while I'm allegating, I further allege that before we celebrate
    declaring the victory of 'back to normal', that we wait for The Science
    to tell us that this is not the calm before the storm of the rise of the
    next Covid mutant. And after all, if we Follow the Science, we'll never
    be wrong - we'll just be evolving.


    hmmmm, Maybe it's because I live in a magic bubble on the Left
    coast, but I haven't had any problems with buying Chinese goods. I may
    even have bought a gallon or two of Russian oil recently.

    "‘Trucker Convoy’ Protests Are Just Far-Right Agitprop Theater
    The “trucker convoy” protests—like all right-wing protests—have never been about their advertised grievance: that is, COVID-related vaccine
    and mask mandates and restrictions."

    "The “trucker convoy” protests—like all right-wing protests—have never been about their advertised grievance: that is, COVID-related vaccine
    and mask mandates and restrictions. Whether in Canada or the United
    States, it’s always been right-wing street theater designed to undermine democratic institutions and discourse by creating social and political
    chaos, while widely sowing disinformation along the way.

    That’s become eminently manifest with their much-advertised American versions—which, unlike the protest that besieged Ottawa for three weeks,
    have splintered into about three different versions and even a localized variation with different timelines, and a couple have ended up calling
    it quits. Most of all, they are trundling on toward Washington, D.C.,
    defiantly in the face of government “tyranny” that in fact is currently rolling back all such restrictions, as it said from the start it
    eventually would."

    "There appear to be at least three main convoys that organized to head
    toward Washington: a “People’s Convoy,” an “American Freedom Convoy,” and a “Freedom Convoy USA,” all taking different routes—though they also appear to use their names interchangeably, and may be just different
    wings of the same set of far-right organizers. “People’s Convoy” is the largest of them and appears to have deployed different routes, all
    arriving in the D.C. area this weekend, though apparently with no
    intention of blocking traffic or wreaking havoc there.

    There’s also a Pacific Northwest regional “convoy” scheduled to descend on Olympia, Washington, on Saturday with the intention of shutting down
    the town. Called the “GRIT Freedom Festival” and organized by a
    coalition of far-right groups called March for Our Rights, it’s
    purportedly also a protest against Washington state’s pandemic restrictions.

    Among the scheduled speakers Saturday is Loren Culp, the ex-cop and
    longtime “Patriot” movement figure who not only badly lost in 2020 as
    the Republican gubernatorial candidate, but refused, Trump-like, to ever concede his election loss. Culp is currently running in the GOP primary
    against eastern Washington incumbent Congressman Dan Newhouse, a
    conservative Republican who made the mistake of voting to impeach Donald
    Trump in February 2021; Culp has Trump’s endorsement.

    As the Seattle Times’ Danny Westneat notes, those measures are being
    rolled back at the very moment they’re arriving to protest the
    “tyranny”: “It’s as if the disease and the public health measures that went along with it were simply fresh targets for the same crowd that’s
    always down in Olympia calling the government tyrannical for one reason
    or another.”"

    https://crooksandliars.com/2022/03/failing-trucker-convoy-mandates

    https://www.theolympian.com/news/local/article258972923.html

    "Hundreds of people attended an anti-mandates rally on the state Capitol
    Campus on Saturday, a total that fell well short of expectations.
    Earlier in the week, the state Department of Enterprise Services, which
    manages the property, alerted the community about the potential for
    increased traffic and attendance in the thousands. Instead, the crowd
    averaged about 500 and peaked at around 700, said Sgt. Darren Wright of
    the Washington State Patrol. He said no problems with the gathering or
    parking were reported."

    TB

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Sun Mar 6 12:51:50 2022
    On 3/6/2022 12:44 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/5/2022 8:17 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 4:26:30 PM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/4/2022 2:18 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of
    Washington arrival

    The American offshoot of the “Freedom Convoy†is staging in
    Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and ramping up for its final protest >>>>>> somewhere in Washington, D.C., on Saturday."The American offshoot of >>>>>> the “Freedom Convoy†that brought chaos to >>>>>> Canada’s capital is
    promising to stop traffic outside of Washington, D.C., on Saturday, >>>>>> but exact plans remained vague Friday as the group hit its last pit >>>>>> stop in Maryland.

    The convoy, which was organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine
    channels
    on the Telegram messaging app, has picked up hundreds of cars and
    several trucks since the group left a rural parking lot in Adelanto, >>>>>> California, on Feb. 22.

    According to extremism researchers following the movement, the convoy >>>>>> now consists of several dozen tractor-trailer trucks and hundreds of >>>>>> cars. The group is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and
    ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on >>>>>> Saturday."

    "The group’s demands are now vague and tied to what they call
    “accountability,†according to Sara Aniano, an extremism
    researcher who has spent the last month following the convoy in its >>>>>> Telegram chats.

    “That could mean financial accountability. It could be physical
    accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their inability to >>>>>> distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern
    lies,†said
    Aniano, who recently published a report on QAnon’s growth
    after Jan.
    6 for the International Centere for the Study of Radicalization, a >>>>>> London-based nonprofit group."

    "But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the group’s
    channels have turned to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, where
    conspiracy-minded thinking has flourished. While some group members >>>>>> have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion, >>>>>> QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized on a >>>>>> false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military
    operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

    The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon
    mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working together >>>>>> to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in Ukraine >>>>>> and
    that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories. Fauci, >>>>>> director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
    Diseases,
    has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right
    conspiracy
    theories."

    "“In their fantasy, Trump comes back, and the military >>>>>> tribunals
    commence over Covid tests,†Aniano said. “But I >>>>>> don’t think they
    know what they want. They are just mad, and they want a reason to
    express that.†"

    "Accountability". I love it. I just bygod love it. It's right up there >>>>> with the also overused "literally" and "efficacy" and "everything's on >>>>> the table" and "at the end of the day going forward".

    Someone must be held accountable!
    Who must be held accountable for what?
    It doesn't matter who or what.
    At the end of the going forward, just literally hold someone
    efficaciously accountable for something.


    Hay, more "accountability":

    "‘Freedom Convoy’ spinoff rallies in Md. with about 1,000 >>>> vehicles and
    unclear plans"

    "HAGERSTOWN, Md. — They drove pickup trucks, RVs, 18-wheelers and >>>> minivans, some making a 2,500-mile journey from Southern California.
    More joined as the convoy passed through Amarillo, Tex., or rallied
    at a
    farm equipment supplier in Monrovia, Ind. And others came in Friday, as >>>> about 1,000 vehicles converged at a speedway in Hagerstown, Md., under >>>> the rallying cry of “freedom.”

    The truckers and their supporters are now the closest they have been to >>>> the nation’s capital, where they want to hold lawmakers
    “accountable”
    for the government’s pandemic responses. Their plans for coming days
    remained opaque on Saturday afternoon, but organizers said they
    intended
    to stay in Hagerstown — about an hour’s drive from the Beltway
    — for the
    rest of the day and hold a rally in the evening.

    The convoy’s motives are muddy, too. People gathered in the western >>>> Maryland city described frustrations with workplace vaccine mandates
    and
    other measures meant to limit the spread of the coronavirus — even >>>> though those rules have now been lifted in many places. The speedway
    crowds chanted anti-President Biden slogans and displayed support for
    former president Donald Trump. Extremism analysts point to a broader
    set
    of right-wing causes that have motivated participants.

    Trucks and cars filed into the speedway complex Saturday morning,
    passing under an American flag waving from a cable between two 30-foot >>>> booms attached to semi tow-trucks. Within, truckers and their
    supporters
    were waking up after the Friday night rally. Most in the crowd were
    White men, but there were also some young children and dogs.

    Rows and rows of tanker trucks, flatbeds, box trailers, RVs and pickup >>>> trucks lined the parking lot, bearing license plates from Utah, Maine, >>>> Arkansas, Texas and other states. A chorus of honking horns blared from >>>> the area where the convoy vehicles were stacked in lines, awaiting
    their
    next move.

    On Friday night, Brian Brase, a convoy organizer, looked out at the
    crowd — some dressed in red-white-and-blue beanies and waving
    American
    flags — and told them to celebrate the distance they had traveled. >>>> But
    they would have to wait longer to learn their final destination and
    what
    to do when they get there.

    “Well, we’re going to do something,” he said, laughing. >>>> “What this is is
    yet to be determined. Please be patient.”"
    [snip]

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/05/peoples-convoy-protest-hagerstown/


    TB

    Sounds like they're all dressed up  -  With no place to go?  I can
    relate to their unfulfilled angst,  or at least,  see that calling in
    others...  Some folks just love to protest against things they see as
    some kind of an injustice....  It's a bonding time for those
    involved,  where they're a winning team, "stickin' to the status
    quo!"   It's a lot like die hard sports fan behavior....

    Che Guevara Jr...

           I think you're onto something here. Sooner or later someone is >> going to turn protestin' into a competitive sport, with teams. They
    could steal ideas from other unreality shows and add new ones. Give it
    all sorts of pizazz, romance and sex appeal. It could be progressive
    and include all sorts of ridiculous convoys. They could start with
    protestin' in the middle of nowhere and work their way up to the BIG
    TIME--DC, BAY-BE! Or maybe Moscow. They'll leave the NFL in the dust
    and make a ton of money. Eventually we'll probably elect a winning
    team captain to be the President of the United States and a former
    topless/bottomless protestin' cheerleader will probably be his first
    lady.

    At the end of the day going forward, that would make Presidential
    campaigning literally a lot more interesting than it's ever been in all
    of my history.


    https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t85j30/protest_in_paris_france/

    Protest in Paris, France

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sun Mar 6 19:27:27 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/6/2022 12:44 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/5/2022 8:17 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 4:26:30 PM UTC-8, Technobarbarian
    wrote:
    On 3/4/2022 2:18 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of
    Washington arrival

    The American offshoot of the “Freedom
    Convoy†is staging in
    Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and ramping up for its final
    protest
    somewhere in Washington, D.C., on Saturday."The American
    offshoot of
    the “Freedom Convoy†that brought
    chaos to Canada’s capital is >>>>>>> promising to stop traffic outside of Washington, D.C., on
    Saturday,
    but exact plans remained vague Friday as the group hit its last >>>>>>> pit
    stop in Maryland.

    The convoy, which was organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine
    channels
    on the Telegram messaging app, has picked up hundreds of cars and >>>>>>> several trucks since the group left a rural parking lot in
    Adelanto,
    California, on Feb. 22.

    According to extremism researchers following the movement, the
    convoy
    now consists of several dozen tractor-trailer trucks and
    hundreds of
    cars. The group is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and >>>>>>> ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on >>>>>>> Saturday."

    "The group’s demands are now vague and tied to
    what they call
    “accountability,†according to Sara
    Aniano, an extremism
    researcher who has spent the last month following the convoy in >>>>>>> its
    Telegram chats.

    “That could mean financial accountability. It
    could be physical
    accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their
    inability to
    distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern
    lies,†said
    Aniano, who recently published a report on
    QAnon’s growth after Jan.
    6 for the International Centere for the Study of Radicalization, a >>>>>>> London-based nonprofit group."

    "But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the
    group’s
    channels have turned to Russia’s invasion of
    Ukraine, where
    conspiracy-minded thinking has flourished. While some group
    members
    have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion, >>>>>>> QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have
    seized on a
    false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military
    operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

    The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon
    mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working
    together
    to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in
    Ukraine and
    that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories.
    Fauci,
    director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
    Diseases,
    has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right
    conspiracy
    theories."

    "“In their fantasy, Trump comes back, and the
    military tribunals
    commence over Covid tests,†Aniano said.
    “But I don’t think they
    know what they want. They are just mad, and they want a reason to >>>>>>> express that.†"

    "Accountability". I love it. I just bygod love it. It's right up
    there
    with the also overused "literally" and "efficacy" and
    "everything's on
    the table" and "at the end of the day going forward".

    Someone must be held accountable!
    Who must be held accountable for what?
    It doesn't matter who or what.
    At the end of the going forward, just literally hold someone
    efficaciously accountable for something.


    Hay, more "accountability":

    "‘Freedom Convoy’ spinoff rallies in Md. with about
    1,000 vehicles and
    unclear plans"

    "HAGERSTOWN, Md. — They drove pickup trucks, RVs,
    18-wheelers and
    minivans, some making a 2,500-mile journey from Southern California. >>>>> More joined as the convoy passed through Amarillo, Tex., or
    rallied at a
    farm equipment supplier in Monrovia, Ind. And others came in
    Friday, as
    about 1,000 vehicles converged at a speedway in Hagerstown, Md.,
    under
    the rallying cry of “freedom.”

    The truckers and their supporters are now the closest they have
    been to
    the nation’s capital, where they want to hold lawmakers >>>>> “accountable”
    for the government’s pandemic responses. Their plans for
    coming days
    remained opaque on Saturday afternoon, but organizers said they
    intended
    to stay in Hagerstown — about an hour’s drive from
    the Beltway — for the
    rest of the day and hold a rally in the evening.

    The convoy’s motives are muddy, too. People gathered in >>>>> the western
    Maryland city described frustrations with workplace vaccine
    mandates and
    other measures meant to limit the spread of the coronavirus
    — even
    though those rules have now been lifted in many places. The speedway >>>>> crowds chanted anti-President Biden slogans and displayed support
    for
    former president Donald Trump. Extremism analysts point to a
    broader set
    of right-wing causes that have motivated participants.

    Trucks and cars filed into the speedway complex Saturday morning,
    passing under an American flag waving from a cable between two
    30-foot
    booms attached to semi tow-trucks. Within, truckers and their
    supporters
    were waking up after the Friday night rally. Most in the crowd were
    White men, but there were also some young children and dogs.

    Rows and rows of tanker trucks, flatbeds, box trailers, RVs and
    pickup
    trucks lined the parking lot, bearing license plates from Utah,
    Maine,
    Arkansas, Texas and other states. A chorus of honking horns
    blared from
    the area where the convoy vehicles were stacked in lines,
    awaiting their
    next move.

    On Friday night, Brian Brase, a convoy organizer, looked out at the
    crowd — some dressed in red-white-and-blue beanies and >>>>> waving American
    flags — and told them to celebrate the distance they had
    traveled. But
    they would have to wait longer to learn their final destination
    and what
    to do when they get there.

    “Well, we’re going to do something,” he said,
    laughing. “What this is is
    yet to be determined. Please be patient.”"
    [snip]

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/05/peoples-convoy-protest-hagerstown/


    TB

    Sounds like they're all dressed up  -  With no place to go?  I >>>> can relate to their unfulfilled angst,  or at least,  see that
    calling in others...  Some folks just love to protest against
    things they see as some kind of an injustice....  It's a bonding
    time for those involved,  where they're a winning team, "stickin'
    to the status quo!"   It's a lot like die hard sports fan
    behavior....

    Che Guevara Jr...

           I think you're onto something here. Sooner or later
    someone is going to turn protestin' into a competitive sport, with
    teams. They could steal ideas from other unreality shows and add
    new ones. Give it all sorts of pizazz, romance and sex appeal. It
    could be progressive and include all sorts of ridiculous convoys.
    They could start with protestin' in the middle of nowhere and work
    their way up to the BIG TIME--DC, BAY-BE! Or maybe Moscow. They'll
    leave the NFL in the dust and make a ton of money. Eventually we'll
    probably elect a winning team captain to be the President of the
    United States and a former topless/bottomless protestin'
    cheerleader will probably be his first lady.

    At the end of the day going forward, that would make Presidential
    campaigning literally a lot more interesting than it's ever been in
    all of my history.


    https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t85j30/protest_in_paris_france/


    Protest in Paris, France

    Works for me.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From filmbydon@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sun Mar 6 19:35:55 2022
    On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 12:51:54 PM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/6/2022 12:44 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/5/2022 8:17 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 4:26:30 PM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>> On 3/4/2022 2:18 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of
    Washington arrival

    The American offshoot of the “Freedom Convoy†is staging in
    Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and ramping up for its final protest >>>>>> somewhere in Washington, D.C., on Saturday."The American offshoot of >>>>>> the “Freedom Convoy†that brought chaos to >>>>>> Canada’s capital is
    promising to stop traffic outside of Washington, D.C., on Saturday, >>>>>> but exact plans remained vague Friday as the group hit its last pit >>>>>> stop in Maryland.

    The convoy, which was organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine
    channels
    on the Telegram messaging app, has picked up hundreds of cars and >>>>>> several trucks since the group left a rural parking lot in Adelanto, >>>>>> California, on Feb. 22.

    According to extremism researchers following the movement, the convoy >>>>>> now consists of several dozen tractor-trailer trucks and hundreds of >>>>>> cars. The group is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and >>>>>> ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on >>>>>> Saturday."

    "The group’s demands are now vague and tied to what they call
    “accountability,†according to Sara Aniano, an extremism
    researcher who has spent the last month following the convoy in its >>>>>> Telegram chats.

    “That could mean financial accountability. It could be physical
    accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their inability to >>>>>> distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern
    lies,†said
    Aniano, who recently published a report on QAnon’s growth
    after Jan.
    6 for the International Centere for the Study of Radicalization, a >>>>>> London-based nonprofit group."

    "But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the group’s
    channels have turned to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, where
    conspiracy-minded thinking has flourished. While some group members >>>>>> have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion, >>>>>> QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized on a >>>>>> false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military
    operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

    The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon >>>>>> mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working together >>>>>> to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in Ukraine >>>>>> and
    that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories. Fauci, >>>>>> director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
    Diseases,
    has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right
    conspiracy
    theories."

    "“In their fantasy, Trump comes back, and the military >>>>>> tribunals
    commence over Covid tests,†Aniano said. “But I
    don’t think they
    know what they want. They are just mad, and they want a reason to >>>>>> express that.†"

    "Accountability". I love it. I just bygod love it. It's right up there >>>>> with the also overused "literally" and "efficacy" and "everything's on >>>>> the table" and "at the end of the day going forward".

    Someone must be held accountable!
    Who must be held accountable for what?
    It doesn't matter who or what.
    At the end of the going forward, just literally hold someone
    efficaciously accountable for something.


    Hay, more "accountability":

    "‘Freedom Convoy’ spinoff rallies in Md. with about 1,000 >>>> vehicles and
    unclear plans"

    "HAGERSTOWN, Md. — They drove pickup trucks, RVs, 18-wheelers and
    minivans, some making a 2,500-mile journey from Southern California. >>>> More joined as the convoy passed through Amarillo, Tex., or rallied >>>> at a
    farm equipment supplier in Monrovia, Ind. And others came in Friday, as >>>> about 1,000 vehicles converged at a speedway in Hagerstown, Md., under >>>> the rallying cry of “freedom.â€

    The truckers and their supporters are now the closest they have been to >>>> the nation’s capital, where they want to hold lawmakers
    “accountableâ€
    for the government’s pandemic responses. Their plans for coming days
    remained opaque on Saturday afternoon, but organizers said they
    intended
    to stay in Hagerstown — about an hour’s drive from the Beltway
    — for the
    rest of the day and hold a rally in the evening.

    The convoy’s motives are muddy, too. People gathered in the western
    Maryland city described frustrations with workplace vaccine mandates >>>> and
    other measures meant to limit the spread of the coronavirus — even
    though those rules have now been lifted in many places. The speedway >>>> crowds chanted anti-President Biden slogans and displayed support for >>>> former president Donald Trump. Extremism analysts point to a broader >>>> set
    of right-wing causes that have motivated participants.

    Trucks and cars filed into the speedway complex Saturday morning,
    passing under an American flag waving from a cable between two 30-foot >>>> booms attached to semi tow-trucks. Within, truckers and their
    supporters
    were waking up after the Friday night rally. Most in the crowd were >>>> White men, but there were also some young children and dogs.

    Rows and rows of tanker trucks, flatbeds, box trailers, RVs and pickup >>>> trucks lined the parking lot, bearing license plates from Utah, Maine, >>>> Arkansas, Texas and other states. A chorus of honking horns blared from >>>> the area where the convoy vehicles were stacked in lines, awaiting
    their
    next move.

    On Friday night, Brian Brase, a convoy organizer, looked out at the >>>> crowd — some dressed in red-white-and-blue beanies and waving >>>> American
    flags — and told them to celebrate the distance they had traveled.
    But
    they would have to wait longer to learn their final destination and >>>> what
    to do when they get there.

    “Well, we’re going to do something,†he said, laughing.
    “What this is is
    yet to be determined. Please be patient.†"
    [snip]

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/05/peoples-convoy-protest-hagerstown/


    TB

    Sounds like they're all dressed up - With no place to go? I can
    relate to their unfulfilled angst, or at least, see that calling in >>> others... Some folks just love to protest against things they see as >>> some kind of an injustice.... It's a bonding time for those
    involved, where they're a winning team, "stickin' to the status
    quo!" It's a lot like die hard sports fan behavior....

    Che Guevara Jr...

    I think you're onto something here. Sooner or later someone is
    going to turn protestin' into a competitive sport, with teams. They
    could steal ideas from other unreality shows and add new ones. Give it
    all sorts of pizazz, romance and sex appeal. It could be progressive
    and include all sorts of ridiculous convoys. They could start with
    protestin' in the middle of nowhere and work their way up to the BIG
    TIME--DC, BAY-BE! Or maybe Moscow. They'll leave the NFL in the dust
    and make a ton of money. Eventually we'll probably elect a winning
    team captain to be the President of the United States and a former
    topless/bottomless protestin' cheerleader will probably be his first
    lady.

    At the end of the day going forward, that would make Presidential campaigning literally a lot more interesting than it's ever been in all
    of my history.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t85j30/protest_in_paris_france/

    Protest in Paris, France

    TB

    That's my kind of protest! I think the cheerleaders of our various sports teams ought to show their solidarity with the Ukraine that way, too!

    Bob Hope

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Mon Mar 7 07:31:15 2022
    On 3/6/2022 4:27 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/6/2022 12:44 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 3/5/2022 8:17 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 4:26:30 PM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote: >>>>>> On 3/4/2022 2:18 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of >>>>>>>> Washington arrival

    The American offshoot of the “Freedom
    Convoy†is staging in
    Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and ramping up for its final
    protest
    somewhere in Washington, D.C., on Saturday."The American
    offshoot of
    the “Freedom Convoy†that brought chaos
    to Canada’s capital is
    promising to stop traffic outside of Washington, D.C., on Saturday, >>>>>>>> but exact plans remained vague Friday as the group hit its last pit >>>>>>>> stop in Maryland.

    The convoy, which was organized on pro-Trump and anti-vaccine
    channels
    on the Telegram messaging app, has picked up hundreds of cars and >>>>>>>> several trucks since the group left a rural parking lot in
    Adelanto,
    California, on Feb. 22.

    According to extremism researchers following the movement, the >>>>>>>> convoy
    now consists of several dozen tractor-trailer trucks and
    hundreds of
    cars. The group is staging in Hagerstown, Maryland, on Friday and >>>>>>>> ramping up for its final protest somewhere in Washington, D.C., on >>>>>>>> Saturday."

    "The group’s demands are now vague and tied to
    what they call
    “accountability,†according to Sara
    Aniano, an extremism
    researcher who has spent the last month following the convoy in its >>>>>>>> Telegram chats.

    “That could mean financial accountability. It
    could be physical
    accountability. It could be legal accountability. Their
    inability to
    distinguish what exactly that means is where the concern
    lies,†said
    Aniano, who recently published a report on
    QAnon’s growth after Jan. >>>>>>>> 6 for the International Centere for the Study of Radicalization, a >>>>>>>> London-based nonprofit group."

    "But as its Covid mission has become less clear, the
    group’s
    channels have turned to Russia’s invasion of
    Ukraine, where
    conspiracy-minded thinking has flourished. While some group members >>>>>>>> have admonished Russian President Vladimir Putin for the invasion, >>>>>>>> QAnon and anti-vaccine contingents within the groups have seized >>>>>>>> on a
    false conspiracy theory that the war is a cover for a military >>>>>>>> operation backed by former President Donald Trump in Ukraine.

    The conspiracy theory, which is baseless and has roots in QAnon >>>>>>>> mythology, alleges that Trump and Putin are secretly working
    together
    to stop bioweapons from being made by Dr. Anthony Fauci in
    Ukraine and
    that shelling in Ukraine has targeted the secret laboratories. >>>>>>>> Fauci,
    director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
    Diseases,
    has emerged in the past year as a main target for far-right
    conspiracy
    theories."

    "“In their fantasy, Trump comes back, and the
    military tribunals
    commence over Covid tests,†Aniano said. >>>>>>>> “But I don’t think they
    know what they want. They are just mad, and they want a reason to >>>>>>>> express that.†"

    "Accountability". I love it. I just bygod love it. It's right up >>>>>>> there
    with the also overused "literally" and "efficacy" and
    "everything's on
    the table" and "at the end of the day going forward".

    Someone must be held accountable!
    Who must be held accountable for what?
    It doesn't matter who or what.
    At the end of the going forward, just literally hold someone
    efficaciously accountable for something.


    Hay, more "accountability":

    "‘Freedom Convoy’ spinoff rallies in Md. with about
    1,000 vehicles and
    unclear plans"

    "HAGERSTOWN, Md. — They drove pickup trucks, RVs, >>>>>> 18-wheelers and
    minivans, some making a 2,500-mile journey from Southern California. >>>>>> More joined as the convoy passed through Amarillo, Tex., or
    rallied at a
    farm equipment supplier in Monrovia, Ind. And others came in
    Friday, as
    about 1,000 vehicles converged at a speedway in Hagerstown, Md.,
    under
    the rallying cry of “freedom.”

    The truckers and their supporters are now the closest they have
    been to
    the nation’s capital, where they want to hold lawmakers >>>>>> “accountable”
    for the government’s pandemic responses. Their plans for
    coming days
    remained opaque on Saturday afternoon, but organizers said they
    intended
    to stay in Hagerstown — about an hour’s drive from
    the Beltway — for the
    rest of the day and hold a rally in the evening.

    The convoy’s motives are muddy, too. People gathered in the
    western
    Maryland city described frustrations with workplace vaccine
    mandates and
    other measures meant to limit the spread of the coronavirus
    — even
    though those rules have now been lifted in many places. The speedway >>>>>> crowds chanted anti-President Biden slogans and displayed support for >>>>>> former president Donald Trump. Extremism analysts point to a
    broader set
    of right-wing causes that have motivated participants.

    Trucks and cars filed into the speedway complex Saturday morning,
    passing under an American flag waving from a cable between two
    30-foot
    booms attached to semi tow-trucks. Within, truckers and their
    supporters
    were waking up after the Friday night rally. Most in the crowd were >>>>>> White men, but there were also some young children and dogs.

    Rows and rows of tanker trucks, flatbeds, box trailers, RVs and
    pickup
    trucks lined the parking lot, bearing license plates from Utah,
    Maine,
    Arkansas, Texas and other states. A chorus of honking horns blared >>>>>> from
    the area where the convoy vehicles were stacked in lines, awaiting >>>>>> their
    next move.

    On Friday night, Brian Brase, a convoy organizer, looked out at the >>>>>> crowd — some dressed in red-white-and-blue beanies and >>>>>> waving American
    flags — and told them to celebrate the distance they had
    traveled. But
    they would have to wait longer to learn their final destination
    and what
    to do when they get there.

    “Well, we’re going to do something,” he said,
    laughing. “What this is is
    yet to be determined. Please be patient.”"
    [snip]

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/03/05/peoples-convoy-protest-hagerstown/


    TB

    Sounds like they're all dressed up  -  With no place to go?  I >>>>> can relate to their unfulfilled angst,  or at least,  see that >>>>> calling in others...  Some folks just love to protest against
    things they see as some kind of an injustice....  It's a bonding
    time for those involved,  where they're a winning team, "stickin' >>>>> to the status quo!"   It's a lot like die hard sports fan
    behavior....

    Che Guevara Jr...

           I think you're onto something here. Sooner or later
    someone is going to turn protestin' into a competitive sport, with
    teams. They could steal ideas from other unreality shows and add new
    ones. Give it all sorts of pizazz, romance and sex appeal. It could
    be progressive and include all sorts of ridiculous convoys. They
    could start with protestin' in the middle of nowhere and work their
    way up to the BIG TIME--DC, BAY-BE! Or maybe Moscow. They'll leave
    the NFL in the dust and make a ton of money. Eventually we'll
    probably elect a winning team captain to be the President of the
    United States and a former topless/bottomless protestin' cheerleader
    will probably be his first lady.

    At the end of the day going forward, that would make Presidential
    campaigning literally a lot more interesting than it's ever been in
    all of my history.


    https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t85j30/protest_in_paris_france/


    Protest in Paris, France

    Works for me.


    Ah yup, I suspect that works for a lot of us. I'd be happy to
    protest with them. That's why I expect it to be a part of modern
    protestin'. Because, lets face it, he who has the biggest protest wins. ;-)

    TB

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