"For reference: Trump spent more than four years undermining Ukraine and promoting Russian interestsAll of which will mostly fall on deaf retrumplican ears here in RORT.
When you hear idiots trying to make the "Putin would never have invaded
if Trump were president" argument...
Trump's campaign manager was a pro-Putin stooge who previously helped
the Kremlin install a puppet government in Ukraine.
Trump's former campaign chief worked for an anti-NATO party and a
politician who fled the country amid charges of corruption and collusion with Russia.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/what-did-ex-trump-aide-paul-manafort-really-do-ukraine-n775431
Trump stated that Putin was a stronger leader than the U.S. president.
During the forum — where the candidates appeared separately in front of
an audience made up largely of veterans — Trump suggested that Russian President Vladimir Putin has been a better leader than President Barack Obama.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-putin-leader-obama-military-town-hall/story?id=41936057
Trump had the Republican Party platform changed to water down support
for Ukraine.
Diana Denman, a Republican delegate who supported arming U.S. allies in Ukraine, has told people that Trump aide J.D. Gordon said at the
Republican Convention in 2016 that Trump directed him to support
weakening that position in the official platform.
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/04/568310790/2016-rnc-delegate-trump-directed-change-to-party-platform-on-ukraine-support
Trump attempted to extort President Zelenskyy by refusing to provide assistance to Ukraine.
Trump’s personal goal, however, was to hold Ukraine hostage and risk the lives of its people and soldiers until Zelensky would agree to stand in front of a television camera and lie for the benefit of one Donald J. Trump.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/30/trump-impeachment-blackmail-extortion-conspiracy-column/4612952002/
After Russia was expelled from the G8 for invading Crimea, Trump
repeatedly praised Putin on the world stage and publicly stated that he wanted Russia back in the G8.
The UK and Canada have opposed Russia's return to the G7, deepening a
rift over US President Donald Trump's wish for the country to rejoin.
... The president said the G7's "outdated group of countries" should be expanded to include others, including Russia.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52885178
Trump publicly stated that he trusted Putin more than he trusted U.S. intelligence agencies.
In a statement issued by his Save America campaign, Mr Trump also said
he would trust Russia over "sleezebags" and "lowlifes" [in] the US intelligence agencies.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-says-he-trusts-vladimir-putin-more-than-us-intelligence-and-asks-joe-biden-to-send-his-warmest-regards/ar-AAKVqyd
Trump repeatedly undermined NATO...
Perhaps the most striking aspect of Trump’s European tour was how much
the tone of near-docile respect to Putin, and to Russia, stood in stark contrast to the insults he dished out over the previous six days to the
EU, his declared foe, and to Nato, May and Angela Merkel.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/16/trump-shows-trusts-ex-kgb-agent-putin-more-than-us-intelligence
...to the point where he was threatening to completely pull the U.S. out
of the treaty, which would have been Putin's dream scenario.
Donald Trump was considering pulling out of Nato and cutting the US’s alliance with South Korea if he won the 2020 election, according to an account of his private meetings with top aides.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-nato-south-korea-book-b1883457.html
Even now Trump is sitting on the sidelines cheering on Putin as he
invades Ukraine.
Less than a day after Putin ordered Russian troops to enter parts of
Ukraine he claims are independent, Trump went on a conservative radio
show and called the move "genius."
https://local12.com/news/nation-world/former-president-donald-trump-applauds-russian-president-vladimir-putin-action-toward-ukraine-calls-it-genius-russia-invasion-conflict-attack-invade-kremlin-army-tanks-peace-independent-land
Putin didn't need to invade Ukraine when Trump was president because
Trump was already giving him everything he wanted on a silver platter.
If Trump had won re-election, there's a good chance that he would have actually tried to pull the U.S. out of NATO, which would have left
Europe completely at Putin's mercy. Why would Putin invade Ukraine when there was a chance that could have happened?
Putin only chose now to invade because after four years of Trump's weak leadership, Biden was rebuilding international support against Russia. Putin's invasion is an act of desperation."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216403734
TB
On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 9:38:19 AM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
"For reference: Trump spent more than four years undermining Ukraine andAll of which will mostly fall on deaf retrumplican ears here in RORT.
promoting Russian interests
When you hear idiots trying to make the "Putin would never have invaded
if Trump were president" argument...
Trump's campaign manager was a pro-Putin stooge who previously helped
the Kremlin install a puppet government in Ukraine.
Trump's former campaign chief worked for an anti-NATO party and a
politician who fled the country amid charges of corruption and collusion
with Russia.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/what-did-ex-trump-aide-paul-manafort-really-do-ukraine-n775431
Trump stated that Putin was a stronger leader than the U.S. president.
During the forum — where the candidates appeared separately in front of
an audience made up largely of veterans — Trump suggested that Russian
President Vladimir Putin has been a better leader than President Barack
Obama.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-putin-leader-obama-military-town-hall/story?id=41936057
Trump had the Republican Party platform changed to water down support
for Ukraine.
Diana Denman, a Republican delegate who supported arming U.S. allies in
Ukraine, has told people that Trump aide J.D. Gordon said at the
Republican Convention in 2016 that Trump directed him to support
weakening that position in the official platform.
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/04/568310790/2016-rnc-delegate-trump-directed-change-to-party-platform-on-ukraine-support
Trump attempted to extort President Zelenskyy by refusing to provide
assistance to Ukraine.
Trump’s personal goal, however, was to hold Ukraine hostage and risk the >> lives of its people and soldiers until Zelensky would agree to stand in
front of a television camera and lie for the benefit of one Donald J. Trump. >>
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/30/trump-impeachment-blackmail-extortion-conspiracy-column/4612952002/
After Russia was expelled from the G8 for invading Crimea, Trump
repeatedly praised Putin on the world stage and publicly stated that he
wanted Russia back in the G8.
The UK and Canada have opposed Russia's return to the G7, deepening a
rift over US President Donald Trump's wish for the country to rejoin.
... The president said the G7's "outdated group of countries" should be
expanded to include others, including Russia.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52885178
Trump publicly stated that he trusted Putin more than he trusted U.S.
intelligence agencies.
In a statement issued by his Save America campaign, Mr Trump also said
he would trust Russia over "sleezebags" and "lowlifes" [in] the US
intelligence agencies.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-says-he-trusts-vladimir-putin-more-than-us-intelligence-and-asks-joe-biden-to-send-his-warmest-regards/ar-AAKVqyd
Trump repeatedly undermined NATO...
Perhaps the most striking aspect of Trump’s European tour was how much
the tone of near-docile respect to Putin, and to Russia, stood in stark
contrast to the insults he dished out over the previous six days to the
EU, his declared foe, and to Nato, May and Angela Merkel.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/16/trump-shows-trusts-ex-kgb-agent-putin-more-than-us-intelligence
...to the point where he was threatening to completely pull the U.S. out
of the treaty, which would have been Putin's dream scenario.
Donald Trump was considering pulling out of Nato and cutting the US’s
alliance with South Korea if he won the 2020 election, according to an
account of his private meetings with top aides.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-nato-south-korea-book-b1883457.html
Even now Trump is sitting on the sidelines cheering on Putin as he
invades Ukraine.
Less than a day after Putin ordered Russian troops to enter parts of
Ukraine he claims are independent, Trump went on a conservative radio
show and called the move "genius."
https://local12.com/news/nation-world/former-president-donald-trump-applauds-russian-president-vladimir-putin-action-toward-ukraine-calls-it-genius-russia-invasion-conflict-attack-invade-kremlin-army-tanks-peace-independent-land
Putin didn't need to invade Ukraine when Trump was president because
Trump was already giving him everything he wanted on a silver platter.
If Trump had won re-election, there's a good chance that he would have
actually tried to pull the U.S. out of NATO, which would have left
Europe completely at Putin's mercy. Why would Putin invade Ukraine when
there was a chance that could have happened?
Putin only chose now to invade because after four years of Trump's weak
leadership, Biden was rebuilding international support against Russia.
Putin's invasion is an act of desperation."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216403734
TB
dmc
"I put as much stock in Trump saying that Putin's a genius as I do when he called himself a stable genius."
Joe Biden
On 2/26/2022 10:39 AM, dm_callier wrote:
On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 9:38:19 AM UTC-8, Technobarbarian
wrote:
"For reference: Trump spent more than four years undermining Ukraine and >>> promoting Russian interestsAll of which will mostly fall on deaf retrumplican ears here in RORT.
When you hear idiots trying to make the "Putin would never have invaded
if Trump were president" argument...
Trump's campaign manager was a pro-Putin stooge who previously helped
the Kremlin install a puppet government in Ukraine.
Trump's former campaign chief worked for an anti-NATO party and a
politician who fled the country amid charges of corruption and collusion >>> with Russia.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/what-did-ex-trump-aide-paul-manafort-really-do-ukraine-n775431
Trump stated that Putin was a stronger leader than the U.S. president.
During the forum — where the candidates appeared separately in front of >>> an audience made up largely of veterans — Trump suggested that Russian >>> President Vladimir Putin has been a better leader than President Barack
Obama.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-putin-leader-obama-military-town-hall/story?id=41936057
Trump had the Republican Party platform changed to water down support
for Ukraine.
Diana Denman, a Republican delegate who supported arming U.S. allies in
Ukraine, has told people that Trump aide J.D. Gordon said at the
Republican Convention in 2016 that Trump directed him to support
weakening that position in the official platform.
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/04/568310790/2016-rnc-delegate-trump-directed-change-to-party-platform-on-ukraine-support
Trump attempted to extort President Zelenskyy by refusing to provide
assistance to Ukraine.
Trump’s personal goal, however, was to hold Ukraine hostage and risk the >>> lives of its people and soldiers until Zelensky would agree to stand in
front of a television camera and lie for the benefit of one Donald J.
Trump.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/30/trump-impeachment-blackmail-extortion-conspiracy-column/4612952002/
After Russia was expelled from the G8 for invading Crimea, Trump
repeatedly praised Putin on the world stage and publicly stated that he
wanted Russia back in the G8.
The UK and Canada have opposed Russia's return to the G7, deepening a
rift over US President Donald Trump's wish for the country to rejoin.
... The president said the G7's "outdated group of countries" should be
expanded to include others, including Russia.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52885178
Trump publicly stated that he trusted Putin more than he trusted U.S.
intelligence agencies.
In a statement issued by his Save America campaign, Mr Trump also said
he would trust Russia over "sleezebags" and "lowlifes" [in] the US
intelligence agencies.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/donald-trump-says-he-trusts-vladimir-putin-more-than-us-intelligence-and-asks-joe-biden-to-send-his-warmest-regards/ar-AAKVqyd
Trump repeatedly undermined NATO...
Perhaps the most striking aspect of Trump’s European tour was how much >>> the tone of near-docile respect to Putin, and to Russia, stood in stark
contrast to the insults he dished out over the previous six days to the
EU, his declared foe, and to Nato, May and Angela Merkel.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/16/trump-shows-trusts-ex-kgb-agent-putin-more-than-us-intelligence
...to the point where he was threatening to completely pull the U.S. out >>> of the treaty, which would have been Putin's dream scenario.
Donald Trump was considering pulling out of Nato and cutting the US’s
alliance with South Korea if he won the 2020 election, according to an
account of his private meetings with top aides.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-nato-south-korea-book-b1883457.html
Even now Trump is sitting on the sidelines cheering on Putin as he
invades Ukraine.
Less than a day after Putin ordered Russian troops to enter parts of
Ukraine he claims are independent, Trump went on a conservative radio
show and called the move "genius."
https://local12.com/news/nation-world/former-president-donald-trump-applauds-russian-president-vladimir-putin-action-toward-ukraine-calls-it-genius-russia-invasion-conflict-attack-invade-kremlin-army-tanks-peace-independent-land
Putin didn't need to invade Ukraine when Trump was president because
Trump was already giving him everything he wanted on a silver platter.
If Trump had won re-election, there's a good chance that he would have
actually tried to pull the U.S. out of NATO, which would have left
Europe completely at Putin's mercy. Why would Putin invade Ukraine when
there was a chance that could have happened?
Putin only chose now to invade because after four years of Trump's weak
leadership, Biden was rebuilding international support against Russia.
Putin's invasion is an act of desperation."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216403734
TB
dmc
"I put as much stock in Trump saying that Putin's a genius as I do
when he called himself a stable genius."
Joe Biden
Hey, look at the bright side. The treason weasel is scheduled to speak at the CPAC at 7pm east coast time. All the good little trumpies
will *finally* know what to think. I think there have been and still are
a lot of people who could rise to the occasion. LOL The orange idiot obviously is not one of them. I expect that we'll get a lot of the old favorites, "lock her up, etc", and the "Big Lie", and lots of smaller
lies. "It's all weak sleepy Joe's fault", of course.
I'm hoping that the idiot will get down to some hint about what he thinks we should be doing differently in Europe. He might not, because
he's in a bind. He doesn't want to antagonize his master. OTOH he's not likely to come down unambiguously in favor of appeasement. If he has a position he's willing to state I expect it will be some form of
appeasement with a different name.
BUT HEY! How often do I get the opportunity to be proven wrong on schedule? Who knows? I might even be able to stomach listening to the
asshole for some period of time.
https://cpac.conservative.org/
TB
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