• Follow the science

    From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 23 19:18:16 2022
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Is a fourth COVID-19 vaccine shot coming?

    Yes, experts say.

    No, experts say.

    “As more data become available about the safety and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines, including the use of a booster dose, we will
    continue to evaluate the rapidly changing science and keep the public informed,” Hunt added. “Any determination that additional booster
    doses are needed will be based on data available to the agency.”

    But other experts say a fourth shot may not be needed for months – or
    years. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Yes"....No"
    "months - or years."
    HawHawHaw!

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/fourth-covid-19-shot-experts-offer-confusing-and-contradictory-answers

    Follow the science, people!
    If you can find it.
    HawHawHaw!

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 1 23:20:43 2022
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    The US should prepare for a possible summer surge of Covid-19 cases
    across Southern states, former White House Coronavirus Response Task
    Force coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx told CBS on Sunday morning.
    ...
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    break break
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    ...
    Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Joe Biden's chief medical adviser and the
    director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases,
    caused a stir last week when he said, "We are certainly, right now, in
    this country, out of the pandemic phase." He clarified that later to
    explain he didn't mean that the pandemic is over, but that the country
    is in a transition phase.
    "We're not over the pandemic. Don't let anybody get the
    misinterpretation that the pandemic is over, but what we are in is a
    different phase of the pandemic," Fauci said. "A phase that's a
    transition phase, hopefully headed toward more of a control where you
    can actually get back to some form of normality without total
    disruption of society, economically, socially, school-wise, etc." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/01/health/covid-southern-summer-surge-prediction/index.html

    So. The pandemic is over............but it's not over.........it's transitioning to being over.........maybe..........

    Birxism. Fauciism. Somebodyism. Pick your science and bygod Follow It.
    And be ready to transitorily evolve and pivot at a moment's notice. If
    you think it might reduce any anxiety you may have, take 3 deep
    breaths and triangulate your metrics within the relevant context of
    the passage of time in your personal social and medical environment.

    Meanwhile, be patient - and hopefully not a patient - and wait for the Disinformation Governance Board to fix this.

    Dr. Doctor, Jr.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Sun May 1 21:07:04 2022
    On 5/1/2022 8:20 PM, bfh wrote:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    The US should prepare for a possible summer surge of Covid-19 cases
    across Southern states, former White House Coronavirus Response Task
    Force coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx told CBS on Sunday morning.
    ...
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    break break
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    ...
    Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Joe Biden's chief medical adviser and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases,
    caused a stir last week when he said, "We are certainly, right now, in
    this country, out of the pandemic phase." He clarified that later to
    explain he didn't mean that the pandemic is over, but that the country
    is in a transition phase.
    "We're not over the pandemic. Don't let anybody get the
    misinterpretation that the pandemic is over, but what we are in is a different phase of the pandemic," Fauci said. "A phase that's a
    transition phase, hopefully headed toward more of a control where you
    can actually get back to some form of normality without total disruption
    of society, economically, socially, school-wise, etc." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/01/health/covid-southern-summer-surge-prediction/index.html


    So. The pandemic is over............but it's not over.........it's transitioning to being over.........maybe..........

    Birxism. Fauciism. Somebodyism. Pick your science and bygod Follow It.
    And be ready to transitorily evolve and pivot at a moment's notice. If
    you think it might reduce any anxiety you may have, take 3 deep breaths
    and triangulate your metrics within the relevant context of the passage
    of time in your personal social and medical environment.

    Meanwhile, be patient - and hopefully not a patient - and wait for the Disinformation Governance Board to fix this.

    Dr. Doctor, Jr.


    You're missing an important word in your salad--endemic. Brix and
    Fauci are basically saying the same thing. Go figure!

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/04/07/science/endemic-meaning-pandemic-covid.html

    "Is This What Endemic Disease Looks Like?
    By Eleanor Lutz and Amy Schoenfeld Walker
    April 7, 2022

    For months, some American and European leaders have foretold that the coronavirus pandemic would soon become endemic. Covid-19 would resolve
    into a disease that we learn to live with. According to several
    governors, it nearly has.

    But we are still in the acute phase of the pandemic, and what endemic
    Covid might look like remains a mystery. Endemic diseases can take many
    forms, and we do not know yet where this two-year-old disease will fall
    among them.

    At its most basic, an endemic disease is one with a constant,
    predictable or expected presence. It’s a disease that persists. Beyond
    that, there is no fixed definition.

    Endemic diseases infect millions of people around the world each year,
    and some endemic diseases kill hundreds of thousands. Some we can treat
    and vaccinate against. Yet they can also cause unexpected outbreaks and significant suffering.

    Interviews with two dozen scientists, public health experts and medical historians suggest the rush to recast Covid as endemic may be missing
    the point.

    “There’s been a political reframing of the idea of endemic as something that is harmless or normal,” said Lukas Engelmann, a historian of
    medicine and epidemiology at the University of Edinburgh. But
    epidemiologists use endemic to mean something we should watch carefully,
    he said, because an endemic disease can become epidemic again.

    Endemic diseases can be mild or deadly"
    [snip]

    This reminds me of other, related, and unsurprising news.

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3463388-birx-fauci-other-colleagues-on-trump-team-had-resignation-pact/

    "Birx: Fauci, other colleagues on Trump team had resignation pact

    BY RACHEL SCULLY - 04/26/22 7:37 AM ET"

    "Deborah Birx, who served as coronavirus response coordinator for former President Trump, said in a new interview that she and other members of
    his COVID-19 response team had a resignation pact if one person was
    removed from the group.

    “I actually wasn’t worried about myself being fired because I was dual-hatted, and I would go back to the State Department and my PEPFAR
    job full-time,” Birx told ABC News, noting her role as the coordinator
    of the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, the government’s
    program to combat HIV and AIDS.

    “I was very worried about Bob and Steve — because you can hear in the hallways how people were talking about them,” she added, referring to
    former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert
    Redfield and former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn.

    “And so, I went to the vice president multiple times to call Bob and
    Steve because I was worried about them feeling like they were at that
    risk. And I was very clear to the chief of staff that if anything
    happened to Bob or Steve, we would all leave.”

    When asked whether any removals were imminent, Birx said there were
    times when Hahn “particularly was under a lot of pressure” over vaccine development, and she made sure to remind him she “had his back, no
    matter what.”

    “All of us knew what it was like to be there and in the trenches,” she added. “Although, they got to go home after the task force and back to
    their agencies. I was still in the White House.

    “But they had enough understanding about what was happening in the White House to understand that all of us were at risk at one time or another.”" [snip]

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Mon May 2 01:03:49 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 5/1/2022 8:20 PM, bfh wrote:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    The US should prepare for a possible summer surge of Covid-19 cases
    across Southern states, former White House Coronavirus Response Task
    Force coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx told CBS on Sunday morning.
    ...
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    break break
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    ...
    Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Joe Biden's chief medical adviser and
    the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
    Diseases, caused a stir last week when he said, "We are certainly,
    right now, in this country, out of the pandemic phase." He clarified
    that later to explain he didn't mean that the pandemic is over, but
    that the country is in a transition phase.
    "We're not over the pandemic. Don't let anybody get the
    misinterpretation that the pandemic is over, but what we are in is a
    different phase of the pandemic," Fauci said. "A phase that's a
    transition phase, hopefully headed toward more of a control where
    you can actually get back to some form of normality without total
    disruption of society, economically, socially, school-wise, etc."
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/01/health/covid-southern-summer-surge-prediction/index.html


    So. The pandemic is over............but it's not over.........it's
    transitioning to being over.........maybe..........

    Birxism. Fauciism. Somebodyism. Pick your science and bygod Follow
    It. And be ready to transitorily evolve and pivot at a moment's
    notice. If you think it might reduce any anxiety you may have, take
    3 deep breaths and triangulate your metrics within the relevant
    context of the passage of time in your personal social and medical
    environment.

    Meanwhile, be patient - and hopefully not a patient - and wait for
    the Disinformation Governance Board to fix this.

    Dr. Doctor, Jr.


          You're missing an important word in your salad--endemic. Brix and Fauci are basically saying the same thing. Go figure!

    Or not.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    But we are still in the acute phase of the pandemic, and what endemic
    Covid might look like remains a mystery. Endemic diseases can take
    many forms, and we do not know yet where this two-year-old disease
    will fall among them.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    An "acute" phase is not a transition. "what endemic Covid might look
    like remains a mystery".

    Man, that's really definitive.
    HawHawHaw!

    Choose your science.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/04/07/science/endemic-meaning-pandemic-covid.html


    "Is This What Endemic Disease Looks Like?
    By Eleanor Lutz and Amy Schoenfeld Walker
    April 7, 2022

    For months, some American and European leaders have foretold that the coronavirus pandemic would soon become endemic. Covid-19 would resolve
    into a disease that we learn to live with. According to several
    governors, it nearly has.

    But we are still in the acute phase of the pandemic, and what endemic
    Covid might look like remains a mystery. Endemic diseases can take
    many forms, and we do not know yet where this two-year-old disease
    will fall among them.

    At its most basic, an endemic disease is one with a constant,
    predictable or expected presence. It’s a disease that persists. Beyond that, there is no fixed definition.

    Endemic diseases infect millions of people around the world each year,
    and some endemic diseases kill hundreds of thousands. Some we can
    treat and vaccinate against. Yet they can also cause unexpected
    outbreaks and significant suffering.

    Interviews with two dozen scientists, public health experts and
    medical historians suggest the rush to recast Covid as endemic may be missing the point.

    “There’s been a political reframing of the idea of endemic as something that is harmless or normal,” said Lukas Engelmann, a historian of medicine and epidemiology at the University of Edinburgh.
    But epidemiologists use endemic to mean something we should watch
    carefully, he said, because an endemic disease can become epidemic again.

    Endemic diseases can be mild or deadly"
    [snip]

         This reminds me of other, related, and unsurprising news.

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3463388-birx-fauci-other-colleagues-on-trump-team-had-resignation-pact/


    "Birx: Fauci, other colleagues on Trump team had resignation pact

    BY RACHEL SCULLY - 04/26/22 7:37 AM ET"

    "Deborah Birx, who served as coronavirus response coordinator for
    former President Trump, said in a new interview that she and other
    members of his COVID-19 response team had a resignation pact if one
    person was removed from the group.

    “I actually wasn’t worried about myself being fired because I was
    dual-hatted, and I would go back to the State Department and my PEPFAR
    job full-time,” Birx told ABC News, noting her role as the
    coordinator of the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, the government’s program to combat HIV and AIDS.

    “I was very worried about Bob and Steve — because you can hear in
    the hallways how people were talking about them,” she added,
    referring to former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    Director Robert Redfield and former Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn.

    “And so, I went to the vice president multiple times to call Bob and Steve because I was worried about them feeling like they were at that
    risk. And I was very clear to the chief of staff that if anything
    happened to Bob or Steve, we would all leave.”

    When asked whether any removals were imminent, Birx said there were
    times when Hahn “particularly was under a lot of pressure” over vaccine development, and she made sure to remind him she “had his back, no matter what.”

    “All of us knew what it was like to be there and in the trenches,”
    she added. “Although, they got to go home after the task force and back to their agencies. I was still in the White House.

    “But they had enough understanding about what was happening in the White House to understand that all of us were at risk at one time or another.”"
    [snip]

    TB


    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Mon May 2 06:51:51 2022
    On 5/1/2022 10:03 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 5/1/2022 8:20 PM, bfh wrote:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    The US should prepare for a possible summer surge of Covid-19 cases
    across Southern states, former White House Coronavirus Response Task
    Force coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx told CBS on Sunday morning.
    ...
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    break break
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    ...
    Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Joe Biden's chief medical adviser and
    the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
    Diseases, caused a stir last week when he said, "We are certainly,
    right now, in this country, out of the pandemic phase." He clarified
    that later to explain he didn't mean that the pandemic is over, but
    that the country is in a transition phase.
    "We're not over the pandemic. Don't let anybody get the
    misinterpretation that the pandemic is over, but what we are in is a
    different phase of the pandemic," Fauci said. "A phase that's a
    transition phase, hopefully headed toward more of a control where you
    can actually get back to some form of normality without total
    disruption of society, economically, socially, school-wise, etc."
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/01/health/covid-southern-summer-surge-prediction/index.html


    So. The pandemic is over............but it's not over.........it's
    transitioning to being over.........maybe..........

    Birxism. Fauciism. Somebodyism. Pick your science and bygod Follow
    It. And be ready to transitorily evolve and pivot at a moment's
    notice. If you think it might reduce any anxiety you may have, take 3
    deep breaths and triangulate your metrics within the relevant context
    of the passage of time in your personal social and medical environment.

    Meanwhile, be patient - and hopefully not a patient - and wait for
    the Disinformation Governance Board to fix this.

    Dr. Doctor, Jr.


           You're missing an important word in your salad--endemic. Brix >> and Fauci are basically saying the same thing. Go figure!

    Or not.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    But we are still in the acute phase of the pandemic, and what endemic
    Covid might look like remains a mystery. Endemic diseases can take many forms, and we do not know yet where this two-year-old disease will fall
    among them.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    An "acute" phase is not a transition. "what endemic Covid might look
    like remains a mystery".

    Man, that's really definitive.
    HawHawHaw!

    Choose your science.

    Yeah, I always expect instant complete answers from science.

    TB

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Mon May 2 08:23:38 2022
    On 5/2/2022 6:51 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 5/1/2022 10:03 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 5/1/2022 8:20 PM, bfh wrote:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    The US should prepare for a possible summer surge of Covid-19 cases
    across Southern states, former White House Coronavirus Response Task
    Force coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx told CBS on Sunday morning.
    ...
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    break break
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    ...
    Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Joe Biden's chief medical adviser and
    the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
    Diseases, caused a stir last week when he said, "We are certainly,
    right now, in this country, out of the pandemic phase." He clarified
    that later to explain he didn't mean that the pandemic is over, but
    that the country is in a transition phase.
    "We're not over the pandemic. Don't let anybody get the
    misinterpretation that the pandemic is over, but what we are in is a
    different phase of the pandemic," Fauci said. "A phase that's a
    transition phase, hopefully headed toward more of a control where
    you can actually get back to some form of normality without total
    disruption of society, economically, socially, school-wise, etc."
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/01/health/covid-southern-summer-surge-prediction/index.html


    So. The pandemic is over............but it's not over.........it's
    transitioning to being over.........maybe..........

    Birxism. Fauciism. Somebodyism. Pick your science and bygod Follow
    It. And be ready to transitorily evolve and pivot at a moment's
    notice. If you think it might reduce any anxiety you may have, take
    3 deep breaths and triangulate your metrics within the relevant
    context of the passage of time in your personal social and medical
    environment.

    Meanwhile, be patient - and hopefully not a patient - and wait for
    the Disinformation Governance Board to fix this.

    Dr. Doctor, Jr.


           You're missing an important word in your salad--endemic. Brix >>> and Fauci are basically saying the same thing. Go figure!

    Or not.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    But we are still in the acute phase of the pandemic, and what endemic
    Covid might look like remains a mystery. Endemic diseases can take
    many forms, and we do not know yet where this two-year-old disease
    will fall among them.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    An "acute" phase is not a transition. "what endemic Covid might look
    like remains a mystery".

    Man, that's really definitive.
    HawHawHaw!

    Choose your science.

        Yeah, I always expect instant complete answers from science.

    TB

    Yeah. Like we get from the bible.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Mon May 2 12:25:03 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 5/2/2022 6:51 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 5/1/2022 10:03 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 5/1/2022 8:20 PM, bfh wrote:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    The US should prepare for a possible summer surge of Covid-19
    cases across Southern states, former White House Coronavirus
    Response Task Force coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx told CBS on
    Sunday morning.
    ...
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    break break
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    ...
    Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Joe Biden's chief medical adviser
    and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and
    Infectious Diseases, caused a stir last week when he said, "We
    are certainly, right now, in this country, out of the pandemic
    phase." He clarified that later to explain he didn't mean that
    the pandemic is over, but that the country is in a transition phase. >>>>> "We're not over the pandemic. Don't let anybody get the
    misinterpretation that the pandemic is over, but what we are in
    is a different phase of the pandemic," Fauci said. "A phase
    that's a transition phase, hopefully headed toward more of a
    control where you can actually get back to some form of normality
    without total disruption of society, economically, socially,
    school-wise, etc."
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/01/health/covid-southern-summer-surge-prediction/index.html


    So. The pandemic is over............but it's not
    over.........it's transitioning to being
    over.........maybe..........

    Birxism. Fauciism. Somebodyism. Pick your science and bygod
    Follow It. And be ready to transitorily evolve and pivot at a
    moment's notice. If you think it might reduce any anxiety you may
    have, take 3 deep breaths and triangulate your metrics within the
    relevant context of the passage of time in your personal social
    and medical environment.

    Meanwhile, be patient - and hopefully not a patient - and wait
    for the Disinformation Governance Board to fix this.

    Dr. Doctor, Jr.


           You're missing an important word in your
    salad--endemic. Brix and Fauci are basically saying the same
    thing. Go figure!

    Or not.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    But we are still in the acute phase of the pandemic, and what
    endemic Covid might look like remains a mystery. Endemic diseases
    can take many forms, and we do not know yet where this two-year-old
    disease will fall among them.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    An "acute" phase is not a transition. "what endemic Covid might
    look like remains a mystery".

    Man, that's really definitive.
    HawHawHaw!

    Choose your science.

     Â Â Â  Yeah, I always expect instant complete answers from science. >>
    TB

    Yeah. Like we get from the bible.

    LOL
    HawHawHaw!
    I've been tellin' y'all this Covid science is like a religion, and I
    allege that I think that it's also probably hyped up with OTC
    political and professional expediency supplements - possibly disguised
    as Fruits and Veggies and osmotic My Pillows. I can hardly wait until
    Mary Poppins and the Disinformation Governance Board gets spun up and
    gets to the bottom of all this science dis and misinformation.

    P/D/U - 47/123/7
    Some days and moments - when all the atmospheric and geophysics
    metrics triangulate and align efficaciously - are better than others.
    Starlink is my religion, and Musk is my preacher.
    However comma in all transparency, let me be literally clear at the
    end of the day going forward - if a Church of Fiberopticsism were
    available to me, I'd convert in a heartbeat and leave Starlink
    foundering in LEO. (i would have said foundering in heaven but i think
    heaven is somewhat further up than leo)(for those of you who believe
    in heaven)

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Mon May 2 14:32:03 2022
    On 5/2/2022 9:25 AM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 5/2/2022 6:51 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 5/1/2022 10:03 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 5/1/2022 8:20 PM, bfh wrote:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    The US should prepare for a possible summer surge of Covid-19
    cases across Southern states, former White House Coronavirus
    Response Task Force coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx told CBS on
    Sunday morning.
    ...
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    break break
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    ...
    Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Joe Biden's chief medical adviser and >>>>>> the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious
    Diseases, caused a stir last week when he said, "We are certainly, >>>>>> right now, in this country, out of the pandemic phase." He
    clarified that later to explain he didn't mean that the pandemic
    is over, but that the country is in a transition phase.
    "We're not over the pandemic. Don't let anybody get the
    misinterpretation that the pandemic is over, but what we are in is >>>>>> a different phase of the pandemic," Fauci said. "A phase that's a
    transition phase, hopefully headed toward more of a control where
    you can actually get back to some form of normality without total
    disruption of society, economically, socially, school-wise, etc."
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/01/health/covid-southern-summer-surge-prediction/index.html


    So. The pandemic is over............but it's not over.........it's >>>>>> transitioning to being over.........maybe..........

    Birxism. Fauciism. Somebodyism. Pick your science and bygod Follow >>>>>> It. And be ready to transitorily evolve and pivot at a moment's
    notice. If you think it might reduce any anxiety you may have,
    take 3 deep breaths and triangulate your metrics within the
    relevant context of the passage of time in your personal social
    and medical environment.

    Meanwhile, be patient - and hopefully not a patient - and wait for >>>>>> the Disinformation Governance Board to fix this.

    Dr. Doctor, Jr.


           You're missing an important word in your
    salad--endemic. Brix and Fauci are basically saying the same thing.
    Go figure!

    Or not.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    But we are still in the acute phase of the pandemic, and what
    endemic Covid might look like remains a mystery. Endemic diseases
    can take many forms, and we do not know yet where this two-year-old
    disease will fall among them.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    An "acute" phase is not a transition. "what endemic Covid might look
    like remains a mystery".

    Man, that's really definitive.
    HawHawHaw!

    Choose your science.

     Â Â Â  Yeah, I always expect instant complete answers from science. >>>
    TB

    Yeah. Like we get from the bible.

    LOL
    HawHawHaw!
    I've been tellin' y'all this Covid science is like a religion, and I
    allege that I think that it's also probably hyped up with OTC political
    and professional expediency supplements - possibly disguised as Fruits
    and Veggies and osmotic My Pillows. I can hardly wait until Mary Poppins
    and the Disinformation Governance Board gets spun up and gets to the
    bottom of all this science dis and misinformation.

    P/D/U - 47/123/7
    Some days and moments - when all the atmospheric and geophysics metrics triangulate and align efficaciously - are better than others.
    Starlink is my religion, and Musk is my preacher.
    However comma in all transparency, let me be literally clear at the end
    of the day going forward - if a Church of Fiberopticsism were available
    to me, I'd convert in a heartbeat and leave Starlink foundering in LEO.
    (i would have said foundering in heaven but i think heaven is somewhat further up than leo)(for those of you who believe in heaven)


    It's a scientific fact, and verified by most religions, that JohnGeorge consumed all the Stupid pills. And, he wants to know why you think
    heaven is higher than a law enforcement officer.

    Blazing fast today:
    4.07/.71/10

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Mon May 2 20:19:48 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 5/2/2022 9:25 AM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 5/2/2022 6:51 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 5/1/2022 10:03 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 5/1/2022 8:20 PM, bfh wrote:
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> The US should prepare for a possible summer surge of Covid-19
    cases across Southern states, former White House Coronavirus
    Response Task Force coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx told CBS on
    Sunday morning.
    ...
    ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> break break
    ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> ...
    Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Joe Biden's chief medical adviser
    and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and
    Infectious Diseases, caused a stir last week when he said, "We
    are certainly, right now, in this country, out of the pandemic
    phase." He clarified that later to explain he didn't mean that
    the pandemic is over, but that the country is in a transition
    phase.
    "We're not over the pandemic. Don't let anybody get the
    misinterpretation that the pandemic is over, but what we are in >>>>>>> is a different phase of the pandemic," Fauci said. "A phase
    that's a transition phase, hopefully headed toward more of a
    control where you can actually get back to some form of
    normality without total disruption of society, economically,
    socially, school-wise, etc."
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/01/health/covid-southern-summer-surge-prediction/index.html


    So. The pandemic is over............but it's not
    over.........it's transitioning to being
    over.........maybe..........

    Birxism. Fauciism. Somebodyism. Pick your science and bygod
    Follow It. And be ready to transitorily evolve and pivot at a
    moment's notice. If you think it might reduce any anxiety you
    may have, take 3 deep breaths and triangulate your metrics
    within the relevant context of the passage of time in your
    personal social and medical environment.

    Meanwhile, be patient - and hopefully not a patient - and wait
    for the Disinformation Governance Board to fix this.

    Dr. Doctor, Jr.


           You're missing an important word in
    your salad--endemic. Brix and Fauci are basically saying the
    same thing. Go figure!

    Or not.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    But we are still in the acute phase of the pandemic, and what
    endemic Covid might look like remains a mystery. Endemic diseases
    can take many forms, and we do not know yet where this
    two-year-old disease will fall among them.
    ----------------------------------------------------
    An "acute" phase is not a transition. "what endemic Covid might
    look like remains a mystery".

    Man, that's really definitive.
    HawHawHaw!

    Choose your science.

     Â Â Â  Yeah, I always expect instant complete answers from
    science.

    TB

    Yeah. Like we get from the bible.

    LOL
    HawHawHaw!
    I've been tellin' y'all this Covid science is like a religion, and I
    allege that I think that it's also probably hyped up with OTC
    political and professional expediency supplements - possibly
    disguised as Fruits and Veggies and osmotic My Pillows. I can hardly
    wait until Mary Poppins and the Disinformation Governance Board gets
    spun up and gets to the bottom of all this science dis and
    misinformation.

    P/D/U - 47/123/7
    Some days and moments - when all the atmospheric and geophysics
    metrics triangulate and align efficaciously - are better than others.
    Starlink is my religion, and Musk is my preacher.
    However comma in all transparency, let me be literally clear at the
    end of the day going forward - if a Church of Fiberopticsism were
    available to me, I'd convert in a heartbeat and leave Starlink
    foundering in LEO. (i would have said foundering in heaven but i
    think heaven is somewhat further up than leo)(for those of you who
    believe in heaven)


    It's a scientific fact, and verified by most religions, that
    JohnGeorge consumed all the Stupid pills. And, he wants to know why
    you think heaven is higher than a law enforcement officer.

    If there is a heaven, I think it's way way way up there. Higher than
    anything in all of history. 'Course, it could also be literally right
    around the corner in another dimension or alternate universe. And
    nothing says it couldn't be inside that box with the cat in it.
    Context is everything. Sometimes. Depends on your personal immutable
    metrics. Unless they happen to be transitory in the passage of time.

    Blazing fast today:
    4.07/.71/10

    Compared to my DSL, it is. Take comfort in that.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 7 07:07:38 2022
    ------------------------------------------------------------
    A failure to deliver

    Shortly after taking office, President Biden called on the government
    to do better. “We have to prove democracy still works,” he told
    Congress. “That our government still works — and we can deliver for
    our people.”

    Most Americans seem to believe Biden has not done so: 42 percent of
    Americans approve of his job performance, while 53 percent disapprove, according to FiveThirtyEight’s average of polls.

    In today’s newsletter, I want to use Covid as a case study for how
    Biden failed to persuade Americans that the government delivered and
    instead cemented perceptions that it cannot.

    Polling suggests that Covid — not the chaotic U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan — jump-started Biden’s political problems. His approval
    rating began to drop in July, weeks before the withdrawal.
    Source: FiveThirtyEight

    That timing coincides with the rise of the Delta variant and reports
    that vaccine protection against infection was not holding up. Both
    came after Biden suggested for months that an “Independence Day” from Covid was near, setting up Americans for disappointment as it became
    clear that his administration would not fulfill arguably its biggest
    promise.
    The Covid example

    At first, the Biden administration’s pandemic response helped
    highlight how government can solve a big problem. Millions of
    Americans were receiving shots a day — a campaign that Biden compared
    to wartime mobilization.

    But then things went awry, culminating in the disappointment many
    Americans now feel toward Biden’s handling of Covid.

    Biden’s administration gave mixed messages on boosters and masks that
    at times appeared to contradict data and experts. As we have covered
    before, U.S. officials often have not trusted the public with the
    truth about Covid and precautions.
    Getting a booster in Jackson, Ala., last year.Charity Rachelle for The
    New York Times

    Congress also lagged behind, with pandemic funding caught in
    intraparty squabbles and partisan fights — the kind of gridlock that
    has often prevented lawmakers from getting things done in recent years.

    “American government is fairly slow and very incremental,” said Julia Azari, a political scientist at Marquette University. “That makes it
    very difficult to be responsive.”

    Perhaps Biden’s biggest mistake was, as Azari put it, “overpromising.” He spent early last summer suggesting that vaccines would soon make
    Covid a concern of the past — a view some experts shared at the time, too.

    Biden could not control what followed, as the virus persisted. But he
    could have set more realistic expectations for how a notoriously
    unpredictable pandemic would unfold.

    Another problem preceded Biden’s presidency: the political
    polarization of the pandemic. It made vaccines a red-versus-blue
    issue, with many Republicans refusing to get shots. Yet the vaccines
    remain the single best weapon against Covid.

    Given the high polarization, Biden’s options against Covid are now
    limited. His support for vaccines can even turn Republicans against
    the shots, one study found.

    “There is more that could be done, but the impact would probably only
    be at the margins, rather than transformative,” said Jen Kates of the
    Kaiser Family Foundation.

    Even if Biden cannot do much, the public will likely hold him
    responsible for future Covid surges; voters expect presidents to solve difficult issues. “People blame the administration for problems that
    are largely outside its control,” said Brendan Nyhan, a political
    scientist at Dartmouth College.
    Lost trust

    Biden framed his call to deliver as a test for American democracy. He
    drew comparisons to the 1930s — “another era when our democracy was tested,” then by the threat of fascism. He pointed to new threats:
    Donald Trump challenging the legitimacy of U.S. elections and China’s president, Xi Jinping, betting that “democracy cannot keep up with him.”

    There is a historical factor, too. Since the Vietnam War and
    Watergate, Americans’ trust in their government has fallen. If Biden
    had succeeded, he could have helped reverse this trend.

    But Covid, and the government’s response to it, did the opposite.
    Trust in the C.D.C. fell throughout the pandemic: from 69 percent in
    April 2020 to 44 percent in January, according to NBC News.

    Distrust in government can turn into a vicious cycle. The government
    needs the public’s trust to get things done — like, say, a mass vaccination campaign. Without that support, government efforts will be
    less successful. And as the government is less successful, the public
    will lose more faith in it.

    Given the polarization surrounding Covid and the government’s mixed
    record, skepticism seems a more likely outcome than the renaissance of
    trust that Biden called for. --------------------------------------------------------------------- https://messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com/template/oakv2?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20220506&instance_id=60594&nl=the-morning&productCode=NN&regi_id=70663888&segment_id=91445&te=1&uri=nyt%3A%2F%2Fnewsletter%2Fff7db93f-231b-57db-af88-f796bd6caa0b&
    user_id=86978059d95a9105c5d08ceea5446896
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat May 7 06:24:58 2022
    On 5/7/2022 4:07 AM, bfh wrote:

    https://messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com/template/oakv2?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20220506&instance_id=60594&nl=the-morning&productCode=NN&regi_id=70663888&segment_id=91445&te=1&uri=nyt%3A%2F%2Fnewsletter%2Fff7db93f-231b-57db-af88-f796bd6caa0b&
    user_id=86978059d95a9105c5d08ceea5446896


    Yeah, the last administration was sooooooo much better.

    "'It's going to disappear':
    A timeline of Trump's claims that Covid-19 will vanish"

    https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/10/politics/covid-disappearing-trump-comment-tracker/

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 17 02:09:03 2022
    The CDC says:
    --------------------------------------------------
    Americans who think they might have been exposed to monkeypox should
    take precautions like masturbating 6 feet apart from their partner to
    prevent the spread of the virus, according to health officials.
    ...
    --------------------------------------------------- https://nypost.com/2022/06/16/cdc-issues-bizarre-tips-for-sex-while-having-monkeypox/

    I guess that means a transitory moratorium on circle
    jerks........except for illegal aliens and foreign visitors - who
    aren't Americans. HawHawHaw!

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Fri Jun 17 08:21:53 2022
    On 6/16/2022 11:09 PM, bfh wrote:
    The CDC says:
    --------------------------------------------------
    Americans who think they might have been exposed to monkeypox should
    take precautions like masturbating 6 feet apart from their partner to
    prevent the spread of the virus, according to health officials.
    ...
    --------------------------------------------------- https://nypost.com/2022/06/16/cdc-issues-bizarre-tips-for-sex-while-having-monkeypox/


    I guess that means a transitory moratorium on circle jerks........except
    for illegal aliens and foreign visitors - who aren't Americans. HawHawHaw!


    Oh, I tend to suspect that you have something. My doubt is that
    you have something you can sell and that we'll ever see it being
    produced. You know, like your previous RV designs.

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Jun 17 12:18:02 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/16/2022 11:09 PM, bfh wrote:
    The CDC says:
    --------------------------------------------------
    Americans who think they might have been exposed to monkeypox should
    take precautions like masturbating 6 feet apart from their partner
    to prevent the spread of the virus, according to health officials.
    ...
    ---------------------------------------------------
    https://nypost.com/2022/06/16/cdc-issues-bizarre-tips-for-sex-while-having-monkeypox/


    I guess that means a transitory moratorium on circle
    jerks........except for illegal aliens and foreign visitors - who
    aren't Americans. HawHawHaw!


         Oh, I tend to suspect that you have something. My doubt is that you have something you can sell and that we'll ever see it being
    produced. You know, like your previous RV designs.

    TB

    What? Sell? Previous RV designs? What?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Jun 17 13:51:27 2022
    On 6/17/22 10:21 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/16/2022 11:09 PM, bfh wrote:
    The CDC says:
    --------------------------------------------------
    Americans who think they might have been exposed to monkeypox should
    take precautions like masturbating 6 feet apart from their partner to
    prevent the spread of the virus, according to health officials.
    ...
    ---------------------------------------------------
    https://nypost.com/2022/06/16/cdc-issues-bizarre-tips-for-sex-while-having-monkeypox/


    I guess that means a transitory moratorium on circle
    jerks........except for illegal aliens and foreign visitors - who
    aren't Americans. HawHawHaw!


         Oh, I tend to suspect that you have something. My doubt is that
    you have something you can sell and that we'll ever see it being
    produced. You know, like your previous RV designs.

    TB
    I see your head is still up your ass... or someone else's.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Fri Jun 17 12:09:43 2022
    On 6/17/2022 9:18 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/16/2022 11:09 PM, bfh wrote:
    The CDC says:
    --------------------------------------------------
    Americans who think they might have been exposed to monkeypox should
    take precautions like masturbating 6 feet apart from their partner to
    prevent the spread of the virus, according to health officials.
    ...
    ---------------------------------------------------
    https://nypost.com/2022/06/16/cdc-issues-bizarre-tips-for-sex-while-having-monkeypox/


    I guess that means a transitory moratorium on circle
    jerks........except for illegal aliens and foreign visitors - who
    aren't Americans. HawHawHaw!


          Oh, I tend to suspect that you have something. My doubt is that >> you have something you can sell and that we'll ever see it being
    produced. You know, like your previous RV designs.

    TB

    What? Sell? Previous RV designs? What?


    I wondered where that post went. Right message, wrong thread.

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Fri Jun 17 14:52:12 2022
    On 6/17/2022 1:09 AM, bfh wrote:
    The CDC says:
    --------------------------------------------------
    Americans who think they might have been exposed to monkeypox should
    take precautions like masturbating 6 feet apart from their partner to
    prevent the spread of the virus, according to health officials.
    ...
    --------------------------------------------------- https://nypost.com/2022/06/16/cdc-issues-bizarre-tips-for-sex-while-having-monkeypox/


    I guess that means a transitory moratorium on circle jerks........except
    for illegal aliens and foreign visitors - who aren't Americans. HawHawHaw!

    That's gonna' mess up liberals. They are just one big circle jerk.

    --
    -
    People are so judgmental... I can tell just by looking at them.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Jun 17 15:54:41 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/17/2022 9:18 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/16/2022 11:09 PM, bfh wrote:
    The CDC says:
    --------------------------------------------------
    Americans who think they might have been exposed to monkeypox
    should take precautions like masturbating 6 feet apart from their
    partner to prevent the spread of the virus, according to health
    officials.
    ...
    ---------------------------------------------------
    https://nypost.com/2022/06/16/cdc-issues-bizarre-tips-for-sex-while-having-monkeypox/


    I guess that means a transitory moratorium on circle
    jerks........except for illegal aliens and foreign visitors - who
    aren't Americans. HawHawHaw!


          Oh, I tend to suspect that you have something. My doubt
    is that you have something you can sell and that we'll ever see it
    being produced. You know, like your previous RV designs.

    TB

    What? Sell? Previous RV designs? What?


        I wondered where that post went. Right message, wrong thread.

    TB

    Whew! I'm literally glad to hear that. At the end of the day going
    forward, I was concerned that my cognitive abilities might have
    declined to the point that I couldn't figure out PNW metaphors/analogies/similes/whatevers. Efficaciously applying what you
    said to circle jerk moratoriums stayed just out of my reach and grasp
    - and I had put everything on the table.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Fri Jun 17 19:02:36 2022
    On 6/17/2022 12:54 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/17/2022 9:18 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 6/16/2022 11:09 PM, bfh wrote:
    The CDC says:
    --------------------------------------------------
    Americans who think they might have been exposed to monkeypox
    should take precautions like masturbating 6 feet apart from their
    partner to prevent the spread of the virus, according to health
    officials.
    ...
    ---------------------------------------------------
    https://nypost.com/2022/06/16/cdc-issues-bizarre-tips-for-sex-while-having-monkeypox/


    I guess that means a transitory moratorium on circle
    jerks........except for illegal aliens and foreign visitors - who
    aren't Americans. HawHawHaw!


          Oh, I tend to suspect that you have something. My doubt
    is that you have something you can sell and that we'll ever see it
    being produced. You know, like your previous RV designs.

    TB

    What? Sell? Previous RV designs? What?


         I wondered where that post went. Right message, wrong thread.

    TB

    Whew! I'm literally glad to hear that. At the end of the day going
    forward, I was concerned that my cognitive abilities might have declined
    to the point that I couldn't figure out PNW metaphors/analogies/similes/whatevers. Efficaciously applying what you
    said to circle jerk moratoriums stayed just out of my reach and grasp -
    and I had put everything on the table.


    I'm more concerned that I was able to follow along...

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 19 18:14:26 2022
    I went on a grocery/booze/beer shopping road trip today. The only
    place I had to wear a mask was in the commissary - which was odd,
    because just across the street was the much smaller booze/beer store,
    which didn't even suggest a mask, much less require one.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Tue Jul 19 17:59:33 2022
    On 7/19/2022 5:14 PM, bfh wrote:
    I went on a grocery/booze/beer shopping road trip today. The only place
    I had to wear a mask was in the commissary - which was odd, because just across the street was the much smaller booze/beer store, which didn't
    even suggest a mask, much less require one.


    Alcohol kills germs.


    ----------
    "It used to be easier, but of course I voted for Biden, so I screwed
    myself,"

    - Mikaela Stekly, homeless mother since 2021

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