• Re: OT? - Say What?

    From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Wed Feb 23 11:49:53 2022
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! This is
    the result of an incompetent, weak and literally clueless president
    Biden and over their heads members of the administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration


    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that Vladimir
    Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too weak to deter
    him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m convinced that Putin would be a
    lot, LOT more hesitant to invade if Trump was President. Biden simply
    does not evoke any sense of strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how Donald
    Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. Who can forget Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The U.S. president rejected
    the findings of the United States’ own intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and said: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget Trump’s use of U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine
    into helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus? Trump
    mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its Article 5
    security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the “aggressor” and
    the Ukrainians are his “victims.” No such censure was evident in Trump’s comments Tuesday to right-wing podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression against Ukraine is an act of “genius,” according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. ‘I said, ‘How smart is that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. ... We could use that
    on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin — “He
    liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him as someone with a lot of “charm and a lot of pride” who “loves his country.”"
    [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility would deter Putin. He’s
    more about Russia First than America First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 23 13:28:54 2022
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! This is
    the result of an incompetent, weak and literally clueless president
    Biden and over their heads members of the administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration
    --
    The science didn't change. The lies stopped working and the mid-terms
    are getting closer.

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  • From dm_callier@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Wed Feb 23 12:32:40 2022
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! This is
    the result of an incompetent, weak and literally clueless president
    Biden and over their heads members of the administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration

    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that Vladimir
    Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too weak to deter
    him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade if Trump was President. Biden simply
    does not evoke any sense of strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how Donald
    Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. Who can forget Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The U.S. president rejected the findings of the United States’ own intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and said: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget Trump’s use of U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine
    into helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus? Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its Article 5
    security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the “aggressor” and the Ukrainians are his “victims.” No such censure was evident in Trump’s
    comments Tuesday to right-wing podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression against Ukraine is an act of “genius,” according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. ‘I said, ‘How smart is
    that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin — “He liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him as someone with a lot of “charm and a lot of pride” who “loves his country.”"
    [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility would deter Putin. He’s more about Russia First than America First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/

    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the
    end of the day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's Obama's fault? Hilary?

    Enjoy the day!

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 23 16:37:09 2022
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit!
    This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally
    clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the
    administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration



    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes >> his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that
    Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too
    weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m
    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade
    if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of
    strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how
    Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office.
    Who can forget Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and
    said: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see >> any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget Trump’s use of >> U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into
    helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its
    Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000
    troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor” and the Ukrainians are his “victims.” No such
    censure was evident in Trump’s comments Tuesday to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression against Ukraine is an
    act of “genius,” according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a >> peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border.
    That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were
    more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very >> savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin —
    “He liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him as someone
    with a lot of “charm and a lot of pride” who “loves his
    country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility
    would deter Putin. He’s more about Russia First than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/



    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad.
    Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the
    day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day going
    forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing. Ukraine has been
    invaded twice recently, both times when a Democrat was President, and
    all y'all can do is, It's TrumpTrumpTrump.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe Biden’s handling
    of the Russian threat to Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% of
    Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with Russia,
    while 55% disapprove. -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Scroll down to the cartoons here: https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 23 13:37:37 2022
    On 2/23/2022 12:32 PM, dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! This is
    the result of an incompetent, weak and literally clueless president
    Biden and over their heads members of the administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration

    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that Vladimir
    Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too weak to deter
    him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m convinced that Putin would be a >> lot, LOT more hesitant to invade if Trump was President. Biden simply
    does not evoke any sense of strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how Donald
    Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. Who can forget
    Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The U.S. president rejected >> the findings of the United States’ own intelligence community about the
    hacking of the 2016 election and said: “President Putin says it’s not
    Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget
    Trump’s use of U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine
    into helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus? Trump
    mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its Article 5
    security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 troops from Germany." >> [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the “aggressor” and >> the Ukrainians are his “victims.” No such censure was evident in Trump’s
    comments Tuesday to right-wing podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression >> against Ukraine is an act of “genius,” according to Trump. He explained: >>
    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin
    declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. ‘I said, ‘How smart is
    that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. ... We could use that >> on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. >> There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace >> all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin — “He
    liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him as someone with a lot of
    “charm and a lot of pride” who “loves his country.”"
    [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that Trump is the >> tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility would deter Putin. He’s >> more about Russia First than America First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/

    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At
    the end of the day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's Obama's fault? Hilary?

    Enjoy the day!

    I'm pretty dazzled myself. I'm like, "What the fuck? What country
    am I living?" And I can't figure out what the retrumplicans think Biden
    should do. It looks like he isn't inviting Vlad to take whatever he want forcefully enough. Maybe would should join Russia in aggressive "peace keeping." Maybe we should send in some troops to help Russia "stabilize"
    the situation? Maybe Vlad will help us with our little problem on our
    southern border in return? How many tanks can it take to "stabilize" Mexico?

    It's pretty amazing. The same people who thought Neville
    Chamberlain was a super villain and his "appeasement" was one of the
    worst things that ever happened in the history of the world now want to
    sell out other countries the same way--to the communists. I can remember
    when Republicans considered that some sort of mortal sin. That was the
    whole excuse for Vietnam. I think Putin is a genius in at least one way.
    He's built a fine network of sellouts.

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 23 15:58:31 2022
    On 2/23/2022 2:32 PM, dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! This is
    the result of an incompetent, weak and literally clueless president
    Biden and over their heads members of the administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration

    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that Vladimir
    Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too weak to deter
    him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m convinced that Putin would be a >> lot, LOT more hesitant to invade if Trump was President. Biden simply
    does not evoke any sense of strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how Donald
    Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. Who can forget
    Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The U.S. president rejected >> the findings of the United States’ own intelligence community about the
    hacking of the 2016 election and said: “President Putin says it’s not
    Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget
    Trump’s use of U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine
    into helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus? Trump
    mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its Article 5
    security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 troops from Germany." >> [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the “aggressor” and >> the Ukrainians are his “victims.” No such censure was evident in Trump’s
    comments Tuesday to right-wing podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression >> against Ukraine is an act of “genius,” according to Trump. He explained: >>
    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin
    declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. ‘I said, ‘How smart is
    that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. ... We could use that >> on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. >> There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace >> all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin — “He
    liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him as someone with a lot of
    “charm and a lot of pride” who “loves his country.”"
    [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that Trump is the >> tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility would deter Putin. He’s >> more about Russia First than America First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/

    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At
    the end of the day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's Obama's fault? Hilary?

    Enjoy the day!

    You are parroting all of the Trump bad comments from you and your
    liberal comrades. By the way, Putin DIDN'T do it when Trump was in
    office. Biden has taken this country to lows not seen since Carter was masquerading as the president. You know it and everyone in this country
    knows it.

    --
    The science didn't change. The lies stopped working and the mid-terms
    are getting closer.

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Feb 23 16:00:05 2022
    On 2/23/2022 3:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit!
    This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally
    clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the
    administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that
    Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too
    weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m
    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade
    if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of
    strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how
    Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office.
    Who can forget Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and
    said: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see
    any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget Trump’s use of >>> U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into
    helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its
    Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000
    troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor” and the Ukrainians are his “victims.” No such
    censure was evident in Trump’s comments Tuesday to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression against Ukraine is an
    act of “genius,” according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border.
    That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were >>> more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very >>> savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin —
    “He liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him as someone
    with a lot of “charm and a lot of pride” who “loves his >>> country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility
    would deter Putin. He’s more about Russia First than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad.
    Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the
    day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing. Ukraine has been
    invaded twice recently, both times when a Democrat was President, and
    all y'all can do is, It's TrumpTrumpTrump.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe Biden’s handling of
    the Russian threat to Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% of
    Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with Russia,
    while 55% disapprove. -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Scroll down to the cartoons here: https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx


    Wow! I didn't realize the RORT loons make up 36% of those favoring Biden.

    --
    The science didn't change. The lies stopped working and the mid-terms
    are getting closer.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Feb 23 15:17:44 2022
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit!
    This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally
    clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the
    administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that
    Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too
    weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m
    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade
    if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of
    strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how
    Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office.
    Who can forget Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and
    said: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see
    any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget Trump’s use of >>> U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into
    helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its
    Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000
    troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor” and the Ukrainians are his “victims.” No such
    censure was evident in Trump’s comments Tuesday to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression against Ukraine is an
    act of “genius,” according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border.
    That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were >>> more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very >>> savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin —
    “He liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him as someone
    with a lot of “charm and a lot of pride” who “loves his >>> country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility
    would deter Putin. He’s more about Russia First than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad.
    Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the
    day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing. Ukraine has been
    invaded twice recently, both times when a Democrat was President, and
    all y'all can do is, It's TrumpTrumpTrump.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe Biden’s handling of
    the Russian threat to Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% of
    Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with Russia,
    while 55% disapprove. -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Scroll down to the cartoons here: https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



    We were talking about specific ways the treason weasel has
    involved himself in the situation this week. If you have something
    specific to say about past presidents maybe you should spit it out.

    I love it, all of a sudden retrumplicans believe in polls again.
    Who would have thunk it. The problem with this sort of poll is that what
    you usually see is that half the respondents wanted the president to go
    in one direction, while the other half who disapproved wanted the
    president to go in the opposite direction.

    TB

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Wed Feb 23 18:10:35 2022
    On 2/23/2022 5:17 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit!
    This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally
    clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the
    administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that
    Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too
    weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m
    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade
    if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of
    strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how
    Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office.
    Who can forget Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The >>>> U.S. president rejected the findings of the United States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and
    said: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see
    any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget Trump’s use of >>>> U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into
    helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its
    Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000
    troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor” and the Ukrainians are his “victims.” No such
    censure was evident in Trump’s comments Tuesday to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression against Ukraine is an >>>> act of “genius,” according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. ‘I >>>> said, ‘How smart is that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border.
    That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were >>>> more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very
    savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin — >>>> “He liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him as someone
    with a lot of “charm and a lot of pride” who “loves his >>>> country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility
    would deter Putin. He’s more about Russia First than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad.
    Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the
    day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day going
    forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing. Ukraine has been
    invaded twice recently, both times when a Democrat was President, and
    all y'all can do is, It's TrumpTrumpTrump.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe Biden’s handling
    of the Russian threat to Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% of
    Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with Russia,
    while 55% disapprove.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



         We were talking about specific ways the treason weasel has
    involved himself in the situation this week. If you have something
    specific to say about past presidents maybe you should spit it out.

         I love it, all of a sudden retrumplicans believe in polls again. Who would have thunk it. The problem with this sort of poll is that what
    you usually see is that half the respondents wanted the president to go
    in one direction, while the other half who disapproved wanted the
    president to go in the opposite direction.

    TB

    I tend to agree with these numbers given the trend of disillusioned
    democrats and "independents" in the last several months. It's plain to
    see he could screw up a one float parade on a sunny day. Keep in mind,
    polls typically over sample democrats (look it up "Look, Squirrel").
    That means democrats are just us unhappy with Biden as republicans are.

    --
    The science didn't change. The lies stopped working and the mid-terms
    are getting closer.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Wed Feb 23 19:30:21 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit!
    This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally
    clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the
    administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, >> Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that
    Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too
    weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m
    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade
    if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of
    strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how
    Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office.
    Who can forget Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018?
    The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and
    said: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I
    don’t see
    any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget
    Trump’s use of
    U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into
    helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its
    Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000
    troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor” and the Ukrainians are his
    “victims.” No such
    censure was evident in Trump’s comments Tuesday to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression against Ukraine
    is an
    act of “genius,” according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of
    Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. >>>> ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is that?’ And he’s gonna go
    in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border.
    That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen.
    There were
    more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy
    who’s very
    savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin
    —
    “He liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him
    as someone
    with a lot of “charm and a lot of pride” who >>>> “loves his
    country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility
    would deter Putin. He’s more about Russia First than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad.
    Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the
    day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day
    going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing. Ukraine
    has been invaded twice recently, both times when a Democrat was
    President, and all y'all can do is, It's TrumpTrumpTrump.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe Biden’s
    handling of the Russian threat to Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% of
    Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with Russia,
    while 55% disapprove.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



         We were talking about specific ways the treason weasel has involved himself in the situation this week. If you have something
    specific to say about past presidents maybe you should spit it out.

    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should spit it
    out.

         I love it, all of a sudden retrumplicans believe in polls again. Who would have thunk it. The problem with this sort of poll is that
    what you usually see is that half the respondents wanted the president
    to go in one direction, while the other half who disapproved wanted
    the president to go in the opposite direction.

    "half"? Really? HawHawHaw! Is that new math?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Feb 23 17:52:41 2022
    On 2/23/2022 4:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit!
    This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally
    clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the
    administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, >>> Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that
    Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too
    weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m
    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade
    if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of
    strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how
    Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office.
    Who can forget Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and
    said: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I
    don’t see
    any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget Trump’s
    use of
    U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into
    helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its
    Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000
    troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor” and the Ukrainians are his
    “victims.” No such
    censure was evident in Trump’s comments Tuesday to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression against Ukraine is an
    act of “genius,” according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of
    Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. >>>>> ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is that?’ And he’s gonna go in
    and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border.
    That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen.
    There were
    more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy
    who’s very
    savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin —
    “He liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him
    as someone
    with a lot of “charm and a lot of pride” who >>>>> “loves his
    country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility
    would deter Putin. He’s more about Russia First than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad.
    Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the
    day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day going
    forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing. Ukraine has been
    invaded twice recently, both times when a Democrat was President, and
    all y'all can do is, It's TrumpTrumpTrump.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe Biden’s
    handling of the Russian threat to Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% of
    Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with Russia,
    while 55% disapprove.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



          We were talking about specific ways the treason weasel has
    involved himself in the situation this week. If you have something
    specific to say about past presidents maybe you should spit it out.

    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should spit it out.

    I should just add a reminder to every post. Again. "I am here for
    my own amazement and amusement." President Potato Head, for the most
    part, remains boring. While the orange unreality show star is always
    striving to outdo himself. I thought his latest bullshit was even more
    amazing than usual. I expect that he will outdo himself again soon, even
    though that hardly seems possible.

    TB

    "“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always
    has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread
    winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the
    false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as
    your knowledge.’" Issac Asimov

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Wed Feb 23 21:40:18 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 4:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit!
    This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally
    clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the
    administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of
    Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that
    Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too
    weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted:
    “I’m
    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade
    if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of
    strength or danger to our enemies.” >>>>>>
    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how
    Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office.
    Who can forget Trump’s kowtow to Putin at
    Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United
    States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and
    said: “President Putin says it’s
    not Russia. I don’t see
    any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget
    Trump’s use of
    U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into
    helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s
    anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its
    Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000
    troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor” and the Ukrainians
    are his “victims.” No such
    censure was evident in Trump’s comments Tuesday
    to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression
    against Ukraine is an
    act of “genius,” according to
    Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine
    — of Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s
    wonderful. ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is that?’ And
    he’s gonna go in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border.
    That’s the strongest peace force >>>>>> I’ve ever seen. There were
    more army tanks than I’ve ever seen.
    They’re gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a
    guy who’s very
    savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin
    —
    “He liked me. I liked him.”
    — and to praise him as someone >>>>>> with a lot of “charm and a lot of >>>>>> pride” who “loves his
    country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by
    suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility
    would deter Putin. He’s more about Russia First
    than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad.
    Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the
    day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day
    going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing. Ukraine
    has been invaded twice recently, both times when a Democrat was
    President, and all y'all can do is, It's TrumpTrumpTrump.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe Biden’s
    handling of the Russian threat to Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% of
    Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with
    Russia, while 55% disapprove.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



          We were talking about specific ways the treason weasel
    has involved himself in the situation this week. If you have
    something specific to say about past presidents maybe you should
    spit it out.

    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should spit
    it out.

         I should just add a reminder to every post. Again. "I am here
    for my own amazement and amusement." President Potato Head, for the
    most part, remains boring. While the orange unreality show star is
    always striving to outdo himself. I thought his latest bullshit was
    even more amazing than usual. I expect that he will outdo himself
    again soon, even though that hardly seems possible.

    LOL! Some of you just can't say anything without bringing up Trump.
    And is "boring" all you really have to say about Biden? Do you think
    he's doing a good job? Are you part of the 36% half - or the 55% half?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Feb 24 09:10:51 2022
    On 2/23/2022 7:52 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:


    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should spit it
    out.

         I should just add a reminder to every post. Again. "I am here for my own amazement and amusement." President Potato Head, for the most
    part, remains boring.

    Boring is one thing. Gerald Ford was boring. Biden is incompetent.





    --
    The science didn't change. The lies stopped working and the mid-terms
    are getting closer.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Feb 24 09:11:48 2022
    On 2/23/2022 8:40 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 4:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! >>>>>>>> This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally
    clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the
    administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of
    Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that
    Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too >>>>>>> weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted:
    “I’m
    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade >>>>>>> if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of >>>>>>> strength or danger to our enemies.” >>>>>>>
    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how
    Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. >>>>>>> Who can forget Trump’s kowtow to Putin at
    Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United
    States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and >>>>>>> said: “President Putin says it’s
    not Russia. I don’t see
    any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget
    Trump’s use of
    U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into
    helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s
    anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its
    Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 >>>>>>> troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor” and the Ukrainians are
    his “victims.” No such
    censure was evident in Trump’s comments Tuesday
    to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression
    against Ukraine is an
    act of “genius,” according to Trump.
    He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine
    — of Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s
    wonderful. ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is that?’ And
    he’s gonna go in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border.
    That’s the strongest peace force >>>>>>> I’ve ever seen. There were
    more army tanks than I’ve ever seen.
    They’re gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a
    guy who’s very
    savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin
    —
    “He liked me. I liked him.”
    — and to praise him as someone >>>>>>> with a lot of “charm and a lot of >>>>>>> pride” who “loves his
    country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by
    suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility
    would deter Putin. He’s more about Russia First
    than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused >>>>>> with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad.
    Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't >>>>>> do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the
    day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's >>>>>> Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day
    going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing. Ukraine
    has been invaded twice recently, both times when a Democrat was
    President, and all y'all can do is, It's TrumpTrumpTrump.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe Biden’s
    handling of the Russian threat to Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% of
    Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with Russia,
    while 55% disapprove.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



          We were talking about specific ways the treason weasel
    has involved himself in the situation this week. If you have
    something specific to say about past presidents maybe you should
    spit it out.

    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should spit
    it out.

          I should just add a reminder to every post. Again. "I am here
    for my own amazement and amusement." President Potato Head, for the
    most part, remains boring. While the orange unreality show star is
    always striving to outdo himself. I thought his latest bullshit was
    even more amazing than usual. I expect that he will outdo himself
    again soon, even though that hardly seems possible.

    LOL! Some of you just can't say anything without bringing up Trump. And
    is "boring" all you really have to say about Biden? Do you think he's
    doing a good job? Are you part of the 36% half - or the 55% half?


    I can answer that. He's part of the 36% half.

    --
    The science didn't change. The lies stopped working and the mid-terms
    are getting closer.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Feb 24 07:57:57 2022
    On 2/23/2022 6:40 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 4:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! >>>>>>>> This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally
    clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the
    administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of
    Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that
    Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too >>>>>>> weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted:
    “I’m
    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade >>>>>>> if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of >>>>>>> strength or danger to our enemies.” >>>>>>>
    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how
    Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. >>>>>>> Who can forget Trump’s kowtow to Putin at
    Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United
    States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and >>>>>>> said: “President Putin says it’s
    not Russia. I don’t see
    any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget
    Trump’s use of
    U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into
    helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s
    anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its
    Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 >>>>>>> troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor” and the Ukrainians are
    his “victims.” No such
    censure was evident in Trump’s comments Tuesday
    to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression
    against Ukraine is an
    act of “genius,” according to Trump.
    He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine
    — of Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s
    wonderful. ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is that?’ And
    he’s gonna go in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border.
    That’s the strongest peace force >>>>>>> I’ve ever seen. There were
    more army tanks than I’ve ever seen.
    They’re gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a
    guy who’s very
    savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin
    —
    “He liked me. I liked him.”
    — and to praise him as someone >>>>>>> with a lot of “charm and a lot of >>>>>>> pride” who “loves his
    country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by
    suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility
    would deter Putin. He’s more about Russia First
    than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused >>>>>> with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad.
    Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't >>>>>> do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the
    day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's >>>>>> Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day
    going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing. Ukraine
    has been invaded twice recently, both times when a Democrat was
    President, and all y'all can do is, It's TrumpTrumpTrump.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe Biden’s
    handling of the Russian threat to Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% of
    Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with Russia,
    while 55% disapprove.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



          We were talking about specific ways the treason weasel
    has involved himself in the situation this week. If you have
    something specific to say about past presidents maybe you should
    spit it out.

    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should spit
    it out.

          I should just add a reminder to every post. Again. "I am here
    for my own amazement and amusement." President Potato Head, for the
    most part, remains boring. While the orange unreality show star is
    always striving to outdo himself. I thought his latest bullshit was
    even more amazing than usual. I expect that he will outdo himself
    again soon, even though that hardly seems possible.

    LOL! Some of you just can't say anything without bringing up Trump. And
    is "boring" all you really have to say about Biden? Do you think he's
    doing a good job? Are you part of the 36% half - or the 55% half?


    Just a friendly reminder: If you are interested in Biden you are
    free to post whatever you like. You might want to start with what he
    should do differently. From the general Republican response I'm not sure
    if he's supposed welcome Vlad to take whatever he wants or oppose him.

    While you do that I will continue to post whatever amazes or amuses me.

    TB

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Feb 24 12:59:03 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 6:40 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 4:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! >>>>>>>>> This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally
    clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the >>>>>>>>> administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for
    Putin’s invasion of
    Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that
    Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too >>>>>>>> weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted:
    “I’m

    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade >>>>>>>> if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of >>>>>>>> strength or danger to our
    enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how
    Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. >>>>>>>> Who can forget Trump’s
    kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United
    States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and >>>>>>>> said: “President Putin says
    it’s not Russia. I
    don’t see
    any reason why it would be.” Or
    who can forget Trump’s
    use of
    U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into
    helping him politically? Or all of
    Trump’s anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its
    Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 >>>>>>>> troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor”
    and the Ukrainians are his
    “victims.”
    No such
    censure was evident in
    Trump’s comments Tuesday
    to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton.
    Putin’s aggression
    against Ukraine is an
    act of
    “genius,”
    according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big
    portion of the Ukraine —
    of Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh,
    that’s wonderful.
    ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is
    that?’ And
    he’s gonna go in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border.
    That’s the strongest
    peace force I’ve ever
    seen. There were
    more army tanks than I’ve
    ever seen. They’re gonna
    keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it.
    Here’s a guy
    who’s very
    savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with
    Putin —
    “He liked me. I liked
    him.”
    — and to praise him as
    someone
    with a lot of “charm and a
    lot of pride” who
    “loves his
    country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult
    our intelligence by suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility
    would deter Putin. He’s
    more about Russia First than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and
    confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. >>>>>>> Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad
    wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the
    day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe
    it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day
    going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing.
    Ukraine has been invaded twice recently, both times when a
    Democrat was President, and all y'all can do is, It's
    TrumpTrumpTrump.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe
    Biden’s handling of the Russian threat to
    Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36%
    of Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with
    Russia, while 55% disapprove.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



          We were talking about specific ways the
    treason weasel has involved himself in the situation this week.
    If you have something specific to say about past presidents maybe
    you should spit it out.

    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should
    spit it out.

          I should just add a reminder to every post. Again. "I am
    here for my own amazement and amusement." President Potato Head,
    for the most part, remains boring. While the orange unreality show
    star is always striving to outdo himself. I thought his latest
    bullshit was even more amazing than usual. I expect that he will
    outdo himself again soon, even though that hardly seems possible.

    LOL! Some of you just can't say anything without bringing up Trump.
    And is "boring" all you really have to say about Biden? Do you think
    he's doing a good job? Are you part of the 36% half - or the 55% half?


         Just a friendly reminder: If you are interested in Biden you are free to post whatever you like.

    Of course I can. Do you think Biden's doing a good job?

    You might want to start with what he
    should do differently. From the general Republican response I'm not
    sure if he's supposed welcome Vlad to take whatever he wants or oppose
    him.

    What do you think he should do - or should have done?

        While you do that I will continue to post whatever amazes or
    amuses me.

    Of course you will, and I should probably try to refrain from
    responding to you when you do that - I was taught that it's bad
    manners to talk to, or otherwise interrupt someone who's masturbating.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Feb 24 11:52:06 2022
    On 2/24/2022 9:59 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 6:40 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 4:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! >>>>>>>>>> This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally
    clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the >>>>>>>>>> administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for
    Putin’s invasion of Ukraine,
    Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that
    Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too >>>>>>>>> weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted:
    “I’m

    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade >>>>>>>>> if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of >>>>>>>>> strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how >>>>>>>>> Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. >>>>>>>>> Who can forget Trump’s
    kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United
    States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and >>>>>>>>> said: “President Putin says
    it’s not Russia. I
    don’t see
    any reason why it would be.” Or
    who can forget Trump’s use of
    U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into
    helping him politically? Or all of
    Trump’s anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its >>>>>>>>> Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 >>>>>>>>> troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor”
    and the Ukrainians are his
    “victims.”
    No such
    censure was evident in
    Trump’s comments Tuesday
    to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton.
    Putin’s aggression against
    Ukraine is an
    act of
    “genius,”
    according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion
    of the Ukraine — of
    Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh,
    that’s wonderful.
    ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is
    that?’ And
    he’s gonna go in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border.
    That’s the strongest peace
    force I’ve ever seen.
    There were
    more army tanks than I’ve
    ever seen. They’re gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it.
    Here’s a guy
    who’s very
    savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin >>>>>>>>> —
    “He liked me. I liked
    him.”
    — and to praise him as
    someone
    with a lot of “charm and a
    lot of pride” who
    “loves his
    country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult
    our intelligence by suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility >>>>>>>>> would deter Putin. He’s
    more about Russia First than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused >>>>>>>> with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. >>>>>>>> Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't >>>>>>>> do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the >>>>>>>> day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's >>>>>>>> Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day
    going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing. Ukraine >>>>>>> has been invaded twice recently, both times when a Democrat was
    President, and all y'all can do is, It's TrumpTrumpTrump.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe
    Biden’s handling of the Russian threat to
    Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% of >>>>>>> Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with
    Russia, while 55% disapprove.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



          We were talking about specific ways the
    treason weasel has involved himself in the situation this week. If >>>>>> you have something specific to say about past presidents maybe you >>>>>> should spit it out.

    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should spit
    it out.

          I should just add a reminder to every post. Again. "I am
    here for my own amazement and amusement." President Potato Head, for
    the most part, remains boring. While the orange unreality show star
    is always striving to outdo himself. I thought his latest bullshit
    was even more amazing than usual. I expect that he will outdo
    himself again soon, even though that hardly seems possible.

    LOL! Some of you just can't say anything without bringing up Trump.
    And is "boring" all you really have to say about Biden? Do you think
    he's doing a good job? Are you part of the 36% half - or the 55% half?


          Just a friendly reminder: If you are interested in Biden you are >> free to post whatever you like.

    Of course I can. Do you think Biden's doing a good job?

    You might want to start with what he should do differently. From the
    general Republican response I'm not sure if he's supposed welcome Vlad
    to take whatever he wants or oppose him.

    What do you think he should do - or should have done?

         While you do that I will continue to post whatever amazes or
    amuses me.

    Of course you will, and I should probably try to refrain from responding
    to you when you do that - I was taught that it's bad manners to talk to,
    or otherwise interrupt someone who's masturbating.


    Same back at you, maybe you can get back to us when you're ready
    to tell us what you think the President should be doing, in your expert opinnion.

    TB

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Feb 24 15:09:48 2022
    On 2/24/2022 9:57 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 6:40 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 4:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! >>>>>>>>> This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally
    clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the >>>>>>>>> administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of
    Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that
    Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too >>>>>>>> weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted:
    “I’m
    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade >>>>>>>> if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of >>>>>>>> strength or danger to our enemies.” >>>>>>>>
    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how
    Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. >>>>>>>> Who can forget Trump’s kowtow to Putin at
    Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United
    States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and >>>>>>>> said: “President Putin says it’s
    not Russia. I don’t see
    any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget
    Trump’s use of
    U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into
    helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s
    anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its
    Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 >>>>>>>> troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor” and the Ukrainians
    are his “victims.” No such
    censure was evident in Trump’s comments Tuesday
    to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression
    against Ukraine is an
    act of “genius,” according to
    Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine
    — of Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s
    wonderful. ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is that?’ And
    he’s gonna go in and be a >>>>>>>> peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border.
    That’s the strongest peace force >>>>>>>> I’ve ever seen. There were >>>>>>>> more army tanks than I’ve ever seen.
    They’re gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a
    guy who’s very
    savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin
    —
    “He liked me. I liked him.”
    — and to praise him as someone >>>>>>>> with a lot of “charm and a lot of >>>>>>>> pride” who “loves his
    country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by
    suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility
    would deter Putin. He’s more about Russia First
    than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused >>>>>>> with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. >>>>>>> Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't >>>>>>> do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the
    day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's >>>>>>> Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day
    going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing. Ukraine
    has been invaded twice recently, both times when a Democrat was
    President, and all y'all can do is, It's TrumpTrumpTrump.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe Biden’s
    handling of the Russian threat to Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% of
    Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with
    Russia, while 55% disapprove.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



          We were talking about specific ways the treason weasel
    has involved himself in the situation this week. If you have
    something specific to say about past presidents maybe you should
    spit it out.

    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should spit
    it out.

          I should just add a reminder to every post. Again. "I am here >>> for my own amazement and amusement." President Potato Head, for the
    most part, remains boring. While the orange unreality show star is
    always striving to outdo himself. I thought his latest bullshit was
    even more amazing than usual. I expect that he will outdo himself
    again soon, even though that hardly seems possible.

    LOL! Some of you just can't say anything without bringing up Trump.
    And is "boring" all you really have to say about Biden? Do you think
    he's doing a good job? Are you part of the 36% half - or the 55% half?


         Just a friendly reminder: If you are interested in Biden you are free to post whatever you like. You might want to start with what he
    should do differently. From the general Republican response I'm not sure
    if he's supposed welcome Vlad to take whatever he wants or oppose him.

        While you do that I will continue to post whatever amazes or amuses me.

    TB
    As much as you post... and reply to yourself, you must tickle yourself pink.

    --
    The science didn't change. The lies stopped working and the mid-terms
    are getting closer.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Feb 24 15:12:10 2022
    On 2/24/2022 1:52 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/24/2022 9:59 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 6:40 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 4:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! >>>>>>>>>>> This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally >>>>>>>>>>> clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the >>>>>>>>>>> administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for
    Putin’s invasion of
    Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that >>>>>>>>>> Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too >>>>>>>>>> weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted:
    “I’m

    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade >>>>>>>>>> if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of >>>>>>>>>> strength or danger to our
    enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how >>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. >>>>>>>>>> Who can forget Trump’s
    kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United
    States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election and >>>>>>>>>> said: “President Putin says
    it’s not Russia. I
    don’t see
    any reason why it would be.” Or
    who can forget Trump’s
    use of
    U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into >>>>>>>>>> helping him politically? Or all of
    Trump’s anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its >>>>>>>>>> Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 >>>>>>>>>> troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor”
    and the Ukrainians are his
    “victims.”
    No such
    censure was evident in
    Trump’s comments Tuesday
    to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton.
    Putin’s aggression
    against Ukraine is an
    act of
    “genius,”
    according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big
    portion of the Ukraine —
    of Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh,
    that’s wonderful.
    ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is
    that?’ And
    he’s gonna go in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border. >>>>>>>>>> That’s the strongest
    peace force I’ve ever
    seen. There were
    more army tanks than I’ve
    ever seen. They’re gonna
    keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it.
    Here’s a guy
    who’s very
    savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with
    Putin —
    “He liked me. I liked
    him.”
    — and to praise him as
    someone
    with a lot of “charm and a
    lot of pride” who
    “loves his
    country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult
    our intelligence by suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility >>>>>>>>>> would deter Putin. He’s
    more about Russia First than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and
    confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. >>>>>>>>> Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad
    wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the >>>>>>>>> day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe >>>>>>>>> it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day >>>>>>>> going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing.
    Ukraine has been invaded twice recently, both times when a
    Democrat was President, and all y'all can do is, It's
    TrumpTrumpTrump.

    --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe
    Biden’s handling of the Russian threat to
    Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% >>>>>>>> of Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with >>>>>>>> Russia, while 55% disapprove.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



          We were talking about specific ways the
    treason weasel has involved himself in the situation this week.
    If you have something specific to say about past presidents maybe >>>>>>> you should spit it out.

    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should
    spit it out.

          I should just add a reminder to every post. Again. "I am
    here for my own amazement and amusement." President Potato Head,
    for the most part, remains boring. While the orange unreality show
    star is always striving to outdo himself. I thought his latest
    bullshit was even more amazing than usual. I expect that he will
    outdo himself again soon, even though that hardly seems possible.

    LOL! Some of you just can't say anything without bringing up Trump.
    And is "boring" all you really have to say about Biden? Do you think
    he's doing a good job? Are you part of the 36% half - or the 55% half? >>>>

          Just a friendly reminder: If you are interested in Biden you
    are free to post whatever you like.

    Of course I can. Do you think Biden's doing a good job?

    You might want to start with what he should do differently. From the
    general Republican response I'm not sure if he's supposed welcome
    Vlad to take whatever he wants or oppose him.

    What do you think he should do - or should have done?

         While you do that I will continue to post whatever amazes or
    amuses me.

    Of course you will, and I should probably try to refrain from
    responding to you when you do that - I was taught that it's bad
    manners to talk to, or otherwise interrupt someone who's masturbating.


         Same back at you, maybe you can get back to us when you're ready
    to tell us what you think the President should be doing, in your expert opinnion.

    TB
    Pretty simple. Even you could understand this. Reinstate Trump's
    policies both foreign and domestic. You see what a disater Biden created
    by eliminating them.

    --
    The science didn't change. The lies stopped working and the mid-terms
    are getting closer.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Feb 24 15:54:29 2022
    On 2/24/2022 3:28 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/24/2022 9:59 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 6:40 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 4:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! >>>>>>>>>>>> This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally >>>>>>>>>>>> clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the >>>>>>>>>>>> administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for
    Putin’s
    invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that >>>>>>>>>>> Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is >>>>>>>>>>> too
    weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted:
    “IâââÃ
    ‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢m

    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade >>>>>>>>>>> if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of >>>>>>>>>>> strength or danger to our
    enemies.”


    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how >>>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. >>>>>>>>>>> Who can forget
    Trump’s
    kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United
    States’
    own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election >>>>>>>>>>> and
    said:
    “President
    Putin says
    it’s
    not Russia. I
    don’t
    see
    any reason why it would
    be.”
    Or who can forget
    Trump’s
    use of
    U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into >>>>>>>>>>> helping him politically? Or all of
    Trump’s
    anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its >>>>>>>>>>> Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 >>>>>>>>>>> troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressorââÃ
    ¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚
    and the Ukrainians are his
    “victims.ââÃ
    ¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚
    No such
    censure was evident in
    Trump’s
    comments Tuesday to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton.
    Putin’s
    aggression against Ukraine is an
    act of
    “genius,ââÃ
    ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã‚
    according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin
    declares a big portion of the Ukraine
    —
    of Ukraine
    —

    Putin declares it as independent. Oh,
    that’s
    wonderful.
    ‘I

    said,
    ‘How
    smart is
    that?’
    And
    he’s
    gonna go in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border. >>>>>>>>>>> That’s
    the strongest peace force
    I’ve
    ever seen. There were
    more army tanks than
    I’ve
    ever seen.
    They’re
    gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it.
    Here’s
    a guy
    who’s
    very
    savvy.”


    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with
    Putin
    —

    “He
    liked me. I liked
    him.”
    —
    and to praise him as someone
    with a lot of
    “charm
    and a lot of
    pride”
    who
    “loves
    his
    country.”"
    [snip]

    "So please
    don’t
    insult our intelligence by suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility >>>>>>>>>>> would deter Putin.
    He’s
    more about Russia First than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and >>>>>>>>>> confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. >>>>>>>>>> Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad >>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the >>>>>>>>>> day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe >>>>>>>>>> it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day >>>>>>>>> going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing.
    Ukraine has been invaded twice recently, both times when a
    Democrat was President, and all y'all can do is, It's
    TrumpTrumpTrump.

    --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe
    Biden’s handling of the
    Russian threat to Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% >>>>>>>>> of Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with >>>>>>>>> Russia, while 55% disapprove.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



          We were talking
    about specific ways the treason weasel has involved himself in >>>>>>>> the situation this week. If you have something specific to say >>>>>>>> about past presidents maybe you should spit it out.

    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should
    spit it out.

          I should just add a reminder to every post.
    Again. "I am here for my own amazement and amusement." President
    Potato Head, for the most part, remains boring. While the orange
    unreality show star is always striving to outdo himself. I thought >>>>>> his latest bullshit was even more amazing than usual. I expect
    that he will outdo himself again soon, even though that hardly
    seems possible.

    LOL! Some of you just can't say anything without bringing up Trump.
    And is "boring" all you really have to say about Biden? Do you
    think he's doing a good job? Are you part of the 36% half - or the
    55% half?


          Just a friendly reminder: If you are interested in Biden
    you are free to post whatever you like.

    Of course I can. Do you think Biden's doing a good job?

    You might want to start with what he should do differently. From the
    general Republican response I'm not sure if he's supposed welcome
    Vlad to take whatever he wants or oppose him.

    What do you think he should do - or should have done?

         While you do that I will continue to post whatever amazes >>>> or amuses me.

    Of course you will, and I should probably try to refrain from
    responding to you when you do that - I was taught that it's bad
    manners to talk to, or otherwise interrupt someone who's masturbating.


          Same back at you, maybe you can get back to us when you're ready >> to tell us what you think the President should be doing, in your
    expert opinnion.

    Maybe I'll do that when you answer my questions.


    If he keeps this up I will run out of appropriate monikers for look,
    squirrel, aka, CC&P and now senor smoke and mirrors. The last may be the
    most fitting.

    --
    The science didn't change. The lies stopped working and the mid-terms
    are getting closer.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Feb 24 16:28:59 2022
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/24/2022 9:59 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 6:40 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 4:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! >>>>>>>>>>> This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally >>>>>>>>>>> clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the >>>>>>>>>>> administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for
    Putin’s
    invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that >>>>>>>>>> Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden >>>>>>>>>> is too
    weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted:
    “Iââââ
    ‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢m

    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to >>>>>>>>>> invade
    if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any
    sense of
    strength or danger to our
    enemies.”


    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how >>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in
    office.
    Who can forget
    Trump’s
    kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United
    States’
    own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016
    election and
    said:
    “President
    Putin says
    it’s
    not Russia. I
    don’t
    see
    any reason why it would
    be.”
    Or who can forget
    Trump’s
    use of
    U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into >>>>>>>>>> helping him politically? Or all of
    Trump’s
    anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its >>>>>>>>>> Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of >>>>>>>>>> 12,000
    troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressorââÃ
    ¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚
    and the Ukrainians are his
    “victims.ââÃ
    ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã‚
    No such
    censure was evident in
    Trump’s
    comments Tuesday to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton.
    Putin’s
    aggression against Ukraine is an
    act of
    “genius,ââÃÂ
    ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã‚
    according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin
    declares a big portion of the Ukraine
    —
    of Ukraine
    —

    Putin declares it as independent. Oh,
    that’s
    wonderful.
    ‘I

    said,
    ‘How
    smart is
    that?’
    And
    he’s
    gonna go in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border. >>>>>>>>>> That’s
    the strongest peace force
    I’ve
    ever seen. There were
    more army tanks than
    I’ve
    ever seen.
    They’re
    gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it.
    Here’s
    a guy
    who’s
    very
    savvy.”


    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with
    Putin
    —

    “He
    liked me. I liked
    him.”
    —
    and to praise him as someone
    with a lot of
    “charm
    and a lot of
    pride”
    who
    “loves
    his
    country.”"
    [snip]

    "So please
    don’t
    insult our intelligence by suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility >>>>>>>>>> would deter Putin.
    He’s
    more about Russia First than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and
    confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. >>>>>>>>> Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad
    wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the >>>>>>>>> day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or
    maybe it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the
    day going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing. >>>>>>>> Ukraine has been invaded twice recently, both times when a
    Democrat was President, and all y'all can do is, It's
    TrumpTrumpTrump.

    --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe
    Biden’s handling of the
    Russian threat to Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% >>>>>>>> of Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with >>>>>>>> Russia, while 55% disapprove.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



          We were talking
    about specific ways the treason weasel has involved himself in
    the situation this week. If you have something specific to say
    about past presidents maybe you should spit it out.

    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should
    spit it out.

          I should just add a reminder to every post.
    Again. "I am here for my own amazement and amusement." President
    Potato Head, for the most part, remains boring. While the orange
    unreality show star is always striving to outdo himself. I
    thought his latest bullshit was even more amazing than usual. I
    expect that he will outdo himself again soon, even though that
    hardly seems possible.

    LOL! Some of you just can't say anything without bringing up
    Trump. And is "boring" all you really have to say about Biden? Do
    you think he's doing a good job? Are you part of the 36% half - or
    the 55% half?


          Just a friendly reminder: If you are interested in Biden
    you are free to post whatever you like.

    Of course I can. Do you think Biden's doing a good job?

    You might want to start with what he should do differently. From
    the general Republican response I'm not sure if he's supposed
    welcome Vlad to take whatever he wants or oppose him.

    What do you think he should do - or should have done?

         While you do that I will continue to post whatever amazes >>> or amuses me.

    Of course you will, and I should probably try to refrain from
    responding to you when you do that - I was taught that it's bad
    manners to talk to, or otherwise interrupt someone who's masturbating.


         Same back at you, maybe you can get back to us when you're ready to tell us what you think the President should be doing, in your
    expert opinnion.

    Maybe I'll do that when you answer my questions.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Thu Feb 24 13:57:19 2022
    On 2/24/2022 1:12 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
    On 2/24/2022 1:52 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/24/2022 9:59 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 6:40 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 4:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! >>>>>>>>>>>> This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally >>>>>>>>>>>> clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the >>>>>>>>>>>> administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for
    Putin’s invasion of
    Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that >>>>>>>>>>> Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is >>>>>>>>>>> too
    weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted:
    “I’m

    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to invade >>>>>>>>>>> if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any sense of >>>>>>>>>>> strength or danger to our
    enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how >>>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. >>>>>>>>>>> Who can forget Trump’s
    kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United
    States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016 election >>>>>>>>>>> and
    said: “President Putin says
    it’s not Russia. I
    don’t see
    any reason why it would be.”
    Or who can forget
    Trump’s use of
    U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into >>>>>>>>>>> helping him politically? Or all of
    Trump’s anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its >>>>>>>>>>> Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 >>>>>>>>>>> troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the
    “aggressor”
    and the Ukrainians are his
    “victims.”
    No such
    censure was evident in
    Trump’s comments Tuesday
    to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton.
    Putin’s aggression
    against Ukraine is an
    act of
    “genius,”
    according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big
    portion of the Ukraine —
    of Ukraine —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh,
    that’s wonderful.
    ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is
    that?’ And
    he’s gonna go in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border. >>>>>>>>>>> That’s the strongest
    peace force I’ve ever
    seen. There were
    more army tanks than
    I’ve ever seen.
    They’re gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it.
    Here’s a guy
    who’s very
    savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with
    Putin —
    “He liked me. I liked
    him.”
    — and to praise him as
    someone
    with a lot of “charm and a
    lot of pride” who
    “loves his
    country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult
    our intelligence by suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility >>>>>>>>>>> would deter Putin. He’s
    more about Russia First than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and >>>>>>>>>> confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. >>>>>>>>>> Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad >>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the >>>>>>>>>> day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe >>>>>>>>>> it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the day >>>>>>>>> going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing.
    Ukraine has been invaded twice recently, both times when a
    Democrat was President, and all y'all can do is, It's
    TrumpTrumpTrump.

    --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe
    Biden’s handling of the Russian threat to
    Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% >>>>>>>>> of Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with >>>>>>>>> Russia, while 55% disapprove.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



          We were talking about specific ways the
    treason weasel has involved himself in the situation this week. >>>>>>>> If you have something specific to say about past presidents
    maybe you should spit it out.

    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should
    spit it out.

          I should just add a reminder to every post. Again. "I
    am here for my own amazement and amusement." President Potato
    Head, for the most part, remains boring. While the orange
    unreality show star is always striving to outdo himself. I thought >>>>>> his latest bullshit was even more amazing than usual. I expect
    that he will outdo himself again soon, even though that hardly
    seems possible.

    LOL! Some of you just can't say anything without bringing up Trump.
    And is "boring" all you really have to say about Biden? Do you
    think he's doing a good job? Are you part of the 36% half - or the
    55% half?


          Just a friendly reminder: If you are interested in Biden you >>>> are free to post whatever you like.

    Of course I can. Do you think Biden's doing a good job?

    You might want to start with what he should do differently. From the
    general Republican response I'm not sure if he's supposed welcome
    Vlad to take whatever he wants or oppose him.

    What do you think he should do - or should have done?

         While you do that I will continue to post whatever amazes or
    amuses me.

    Of course you will, and I should probably try to refrain from
    responding to you when you do that - I was taught that it's bad
    manners to talk to, or otherwise interrupt someone who's masturbating.


          Same back at you, maybe you can get back to us when you're ready >> to tell us what you think the President should be doing, in your
    expert opinnion.

    TB
    Pretty simple. Even you could understand this. Reinstate Trump's
    policies both foreign and domestic. You see what a disater Biden created
    by eliminating them.


    OK, so we have one vote for appeasement. That's easy enough to understand.

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Feb 24 16:04:15 2022
    On 2/24/2022 3:57 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/24/2022 1:12 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
    On 2/24/2022 1:52 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/24/2022 9:59 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 6:40 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 4:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 1:37 PM, bfh wrote:
    dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the result of an incompetent, weak and literally >>>>>>>>>>>>> clueless president Biden and over their heads members of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration




    "Opinion: With his praise for
    Putin’s invasion of
    Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that >>>>>>>>>>>> Vladimir Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden >>>>>>>>>>>> is too
    weak to deter him. As one right-winger tweeted:
    “I’m

    convinced that Putin would be a lot, LOT more hesitant to >>>>>>>>>>>> invade
    if Trump was President. Biden simply does not evoke any >>>>>>>>>>>> sense of
    strength or danger to our
    enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how >>>>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in >>>>>>>>>>>> office.
    Who can forget Trump’s
    kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The
    U.S. president rejected the findings of the United
    States’ own
    intelligence community about the hacking of the 2016
    election and
    said: “President Putin
    says it’s not Russia. I
    don’t see
    any reason why it would be.”
    Or who can forget
    Trump’s use of
    U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine into >>>>>>>>>>>> helping him politically? Or all of
    Trump’s anti-NATO animus?
    Trump mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its >>>>>>>>>>>> Article 5 security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of >>>>>>>>>>>> 12,000
    troops from Germany." [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the >>>>>>>>>>>> “aggressor”
    and the Ukrainians are his
    “victims.”
    No such
    censure was evident in
    Trump’s comments
    Tuesday to right-wing
    podcaster Buck Sexton.
    Putin’s aggression
    against Ukraine is an
    act of
    “genius,”
    according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big
    portion of the Ukraine
    — of Ukraine
    —
    Putin declares it as independent. Oh,
    that’s wonderful.
    ‘I
    said, ‘How smart is
    that?’ And
    he’s gonna go in and be a
    peacekeeper. ... We could use that on our southern border. >>>>>>>>>>>> That’s the strongest
    peace force I’ve ever
    seen. There were
    more army tanks than
    I’ve ever seen.
    They’re gonna keep
    peace all right. No, but think of it.
    Here’s a guy
    who’s very
    savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with >>>>>>>>>>>> Putin —
    “He liked me. I liked
    him.”
    — and to praise him as
    someone
    with a lot of “charm and a
    lot of pride” who
    “loves his
    country.”" [snip]

    "So please don’t insult
    our intelligence by suggesting that
    Trump is the tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility >>>>>>>>>>>> would deter Putin. He’s
    more about Russia First than America
    First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/




    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and >>>>>>>>>>> confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. >>>>>>>>>>> Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad >>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the >>>>>>>>>>> day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or >>>>>>>>>>> maybe it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    To literally loosely paraphrase somebody, at the end of the >>>>>>>>>> day going forward, some of you folks are amazing and amusing. >>>>>>>>>> Ukraine has been invaded twice recently, both times when a >>>>>>>>>> Democrat was President, and all y'all can do is, It's
    TrumpTrumpTrump.

    --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> A majority of Americans disapprove of President Joe
    Biden’s handling of the Russian threat to
    Ukraine, a new poll found.

    The Gallup survey, conducted between Feb. 1-17, found that 36% >>>>>>>>>> of Americans approve of Biden's handling of the situation with >>>>>>>>>> Russia, while 55% disapprove.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> Scroll down to the cartoons here:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2022-02-22/majority-disapproves-of-bidens-handling-of-russian-threat-to-ukraine


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/390086/biden-ratings-economy-foreign-affairs-russia-near.aspx



          We were talking about specific ways the
    treason weasel has involved himself in the situation this week. >>>>>>>>> If you have something specific to say about past presidents
    maybe you should spit it out.

    If you have anything good to say about Biden, maybe you should >>>>>>>> spit it out.

          I should just add a reminder to every post. Again. "I
    am here for my own amazement and amusement." President Potato
    Head, for the most part, remains boring. While the orange
    unreality show star is always striving to outdo himself. I
    thought his latest bullshit was even more amazing than usual. I
    expect that he will outdo himself again soon, even though that
    hardly seems possible.

    LOL! Some of you just can't say anything without bringing up
    Trump. And is "boring" all you really have to say about Biden? Do
    you think he's doing a good job? Are you part of the 36% half - or >>>>>> the 55% half?


          Just a friendly reminder: If you are interested in Biden you >>>>> are free to post whatever you like.

    Of course I can. Do you think Biden's doing a good job?

    You might want to start with what he should do differently. From
    the general Republican response I'm not sure if he's supposed
    welcome Vlad to take whatever he wants or oppose him.

    What do you think he should do - or should have done?

         While you do that I will continue to post whatever amazes or >>>>> amuses me.

    Of course you will, and I should probably try to refrain from
    responding to you when you do that - I was taught that it's bad
    manners to talk to, or otherwise interrupt someone who's masturbating. >>>>

          Same back at you, maybe you can get back to us when you're
    ready to tell us what you think the President should be doing, in
    your expert opinnion.

    TB
    Pretty simple. Even you could understand this. Reinstate Trump's
    policies both foreign and domestic. You see what a disater Biden
    created by eliminating them.


          OK, so we have one vote for appeasement. That's easy enough to understand.

    TB
    I think Trump had more than one policy. Nevertheless, appeasement was
    not one of them. Trump is a negotiator not an appeaser. Did he have an appeasement policy with China? Lil Kim? The mullahs? The bottom line,
    whether you care to admit the obvious, Putin didn't try this invasion
    while Trump was president. That's a pure and simple fact that even you
    can't spin no matter how much smoke and how many mirrors you use.

    --
    The science didn't change. The lies stopped working and the mid-terms
    are getting closer.

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  • From George Anthony@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Thu Feb 24 15:01:07 2022
    On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 2:04:18 PM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:

    Whole slew of bf crap snipped

    OK, so we have one vote for appeasement. That's easy enough to understand.

    TB
    I think Trump had more than one policy. Nevertheless, appeasement was
    not one of them. Trump is a negotiator not an appeaser. Did he have an appeasement policy with China? Lil Kim? The mullahs? The bottom line, whether you care to admit the obvious, Putin didn't try this invasion
    while Trump was president. That's a pure and simple fact that even you
    can't spin no matter how much smoke and how many mirrors you use.

    Oh yea he was one great negotiator, his lover in North Korea is still doing his thing, China is doing economically better than ever as the American consumer pays through the nose, and what a bang up job with MAGA hope you like your made in India or
    Thailand Harley, oh almost forgot the Mexicans paying for that wall. Haw Haw Haw

    How to annoy a republican... use facts and logic.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 24 17:07:41 2022
    On 2/23/2022 12:32 PM, dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! This is
    the result of an incompetent, weak and literally clueless president
    Biden and over their heads members of the administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration

    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes
    his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that Vladimir
    Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too weak to deter
    him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m convinced that Putin would be a >> lot, LOT more hesitant to invade if Trump was President. Biden simply
    does not evoke any sense of strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how Donald
    Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. Who can forget
    Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The U.S. president rejected >> the findings of the United States’ own intelligence community about the
    hacking of the 2016 election and said: “President Putin says it’s not
    Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget
    Trump’s use of U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine
    into helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus? Trump
    mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its Article 5
    security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 troops from Germany." >> [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the “aggressor” and >> the Ukrainians are his “victims.” No such censure was evident in Trump’s
    comments Tuesday to right-wing podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression >> against Ukraine is an act of “genius,” according to Trump. He explained: >>
    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin
    declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. ‘I said, ‘How smart is
    that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. ... We could use that >> on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. >> There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace >> all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin — “He
    liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him as someone with a lot of
    “charm and a lot of pride” who “loves his country.”"
    [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that Trump is the >> tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility would deter Putin. He’s >> more about Russia First than America First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/

    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At
    the end of the day, going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's Obama's fault? Hilary?

    Enjoy the day!

    I think you hit that nail right on the head. I've been trying to
    figure out what President Potato Head has done wrong, except for not
    being the orange idiot. That seems to be the whole thing. The treason
    weasel's ass kissing is seen as a sign of "strength". He went around and
    did a lot of ass kissing and look what happened? Nothing. The closest I
    could get to a specific complaint is because we withdrew from Afghanistan.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/02/24/1082954761/republicans-are-condemning-putin-for-the-invasion-of-ukraine-and-criticizing-bid

    "Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., attacked Biden on
    Thursday, telling reporters that the deadly U.S. withdrawal from
    Afghanistan last year had been "an invitation to the autocrats of the
    world that maybe this was a good time to make a move," as WFPL's Ryan
    Van Velzer reported."

    "https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/08/donald-trump-joe-biden-afghanistan"

    "TRUMP HOPES NO ONE REMEMBERS HE PUSHED FOR A FULL AFGHANISTAN
    WITHDRAWAL IN JUNE
    The 45th president is desperately trying to rewrite his own Afghanistan history."

    "Weirdly, Trump did not note in his statement that less than two months
    ago, he was bragging about how he started the Afghanistan-withdrawal
    process and claiming the Biden administration was powerless to stop it."

    OTOH this person isn't even bothering with specifics. It's just,
    "Putin bad, Biden worse."

    "(CNN)Elise Stefanik is the third-ranking Republican in the House for
    one main reason: Her unstinting loyalty to Donald Trump. And she hasn't forgotten that fact.

    While many of her GOP colleagues were heavily ridiculing Russian
    President Vladimir Putin on Thursday for his invasion of Ukraine,
    Stefanik took a different tack, focusing her criticism on President Joe
    Biden and laying Russian aggression at his feet.

    Here's the key bit of her statement:

    "After just one year of a weak, feckless, and unfit President of the
    United States and Commander-in-Chief, the world is less safe. Rather
    than peace through strength, we are witnessing Joe Biden's foreign
    policy of war through weakness. For the past year, our adversaries
    around the world have been assessing and measuring Joe Biden's
    leadership on the world stage, and he has abysmally failed on every
    metric. From kinetic and deadly attacks on our allies and partners, to
    the catastrophic withdrawal and surrender in Afghanistan, to the cyber
    attacks impeding American industry and infrastructure, to today's
    Russian invasion of Ukraine, Joe Biden and his Administration have
    failed America and the world."

    While Stefanik went on to call Putin a "war criminal" and a "deranged
    thug," the bulk of her statement was dedicated to excoriating Biden."

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/politics/elise-stefanik-biden-putin-russia-ukraine-invasion/index.html

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Feb 24 20:04:55 2022
    On 2/24/2022 7:07 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 12:32 PM, dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8, Technobarbarian
    wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! This is >>>> the result of an incompetent, weak and literally clueless president
    Biden and over their heads members of the administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration


    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes >>> his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that Vladimir
    Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too weak to deter
    him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m convinced that Putin would be a >>> lot, LOT more hesitant to invade if Trump was President. Biden simply
    does not evoke any sense of strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how Donald
    Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. Who can forget >>> Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The U.S. president rejected >>> the findings of the United States’ own intelligence community about the >>> hacking of the 2016 election and said: “President Putin says it’s not >>> Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget
    Trump’s use of U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine
    into helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus? Trump >>> mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its Article 5
    security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 troops from
    Germany."
    [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the “aggressor” and >>> the Ukrainians are his “victims.” No such censure was evident in Trump’s
    comments Tuesday to right-wing podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s aggression >>> against Ukraine is an act of “genius,” according to Trump. He explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin
    declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. ‘I said, ‘How smart is
    that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. ... We could use that >>> on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen.
    There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace
    all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin — “He
    liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him as someone with a lot of >>> “charm and a lot of pride” who “loves his country.”"
    [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that Trump is the >>> tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility would deter Putin. He’s >>> more about Russia First than America First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/


    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. Real
    patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't do this
    if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the day, going
    forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's Obama's
    fault? Hilary?

    Enjoy the day!

         I think you hit that nail right on the head. I've been trying to figure out what President Potato Head has done wrong, except for not
    being the orange idiot. That seems to be the whole thing. The treason weasel's ass kissing is seen as a sign of "strength". He went around and
    did a lot of ass kissing and look what happened? Nothing. The closest I
    could get to a specific complaint is because we withdrew from Afghanistan.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/02/24/1082954761/republicans-are-condemning-putin-for-the-invasion-of-ukraine-and-criticizing-bid


    "Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., attacked Biden on
    Thursday, telling reporters that the deadly U.S. withdrawal from
    Afghanistan last year had been "an invitation to the autocrats of the
    world that maybe this was a good time to make a move," as WFPL's Ryan
    Van Velzer reported."

    "https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/08/donald-trump-joe-biden-afghanistan"


    "TRUMP HOPES NO ONE REMEMBERS HE PUSHED FOR A FULL AFGHANISTAN
    WITHDRAWAL IN JUNE
    The 45th president is desperately trying to rewrite his own Afghanistan history."

    "Weirdly, Trump did not note in his statement that less than two months
    ago, he was bragging about how he started the Afghanistan-withdrawal
    process and claiming the Biden administration was powerless to stop it."

          OTOH this person isn't even bothering with specifics. It's just, "Putin bad, Biden worse."

    "(CNN)Elise Stefanik is the third-ranking Republican in the House for
    one main reason: Her unstinting loyalty to Donald Trump. And she hasn't forgotten that fact.

    While many of her GOP colleagues were heavily ridiculing Russian
    President Vladimir Putin on Thursday for his invasion of Ukraine,
    Stefanik took a different tack, focusing her criticism on President Joe
    Biden and laying Russian aggression at his feet.

    Here's the key bit of her statement:

    "After just one year of a weak, feckless, and unfit President of the
    United States and Commander-in-Chief, the world is less safe. Rather
    than peace through strength, we are witnessing Joe Biden's foreign
    policy of war through weakness. For the past year, our adversaries
    around the world have been assessing and measuring Joe Biden's
    leadership on the world stage, and he has abysmally failed on every
    metric. From kinetic and deadly attacks on our allies and partners, to
    the catastrophic withdrawal and surrender in Afghanistan, to the cyber attacks impeding American industry and infrastructure, to today's
    Russian invasion of Ukraine, Joe Biden and his Administration have
    failed America and the world."

    While Stefanik went on to call Putin a "war criminal" and a "deranged
    thug," the bulk of her statement was dedicated to excoriating Biden."

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/politics/elise-stefanik-biden-putin-russia-ukraine-invasion/index.html


    TB

    Yes he pushed for withdrawal. Biden pulling the troops is not the issue
    and you know it. How he withdrew is the big problem.

    --
    The science didn't change. The lies stopped working and the mid-terms
    are getting closer.

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  • From Jerry@21:1/5 to bfh on Fri Feb 25 01:56:57 2022
    On Wed, 23 Feb 2022 21:40:18 -0500, bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:

    LOL! Some of you just can't say anything without bringing up Trump.
    And is "boring" all you really have to say about Biden? Do you think
    he's doing a good job? Are you part of the 36% half - or the 55% half?

    Liberal Dems do not like mathematics as a science because it is too hard
    core. 36% = half. 55% = half -- why not? They will argue that 2+2
    does not always equal 4 - especially if one is dealing with the larger
    values of 2.

    Liberal Dems also believe that being Educated = being Smart. However,
    in their heart of hearts, they know better, and it pisses them off. They attempt to compensate for their blind ignorance and inchoateness by
    being mean, vindictive, and small minded jumped-up assholes - with great success.

    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Fri Feb 25 05:34:53 2022
    On 2/24/2022 6:04 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
    On 2/24/2022 7:07 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 12:32 PM, dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8, Technobarbarian
    wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit! This is >>>>> the result of an incompetent, weak and literally clueless president
    Biden and over their heads members of the administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration


    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes >>>> his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that Vladimir
    Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too weak to deter >>>> him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m convinced that Putin would be a >>>> lot, LOT more hesitant to invade if Trump was President. Biden simply
    does not evoke any sense of strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how Donald
    Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. Who can
    forget
    Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The U.S. president
    rejected
    the findings of the United States’ own intelligence community about the >>>> hacking of the 2016 election and said: “President Putin says it’s not >>>> Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget >>>> Trump’s use of U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine >>>> into helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus? Trump >>>> mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its Article 5
    security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 troops from
    Germany."
    [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the “aggressor” and >>>> the Ukrainians are his “victims.” No such censure was evident in
    Trump’s
    comments Tuesday to right-wing podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s
    aggression
    against Ukraine is an act of “genius,” according to Trump. He
    explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin >>>> declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. ‘I said, ‘How
    smart is
    that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. ... We could use that
    on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever >>>> seen.
    There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep >>>> peace
    all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy.”

    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin — “He >>>> liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him as someone with a lot of >>>> “charm and a lot of pride” who “loves his country.”"
    [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that Trump is >>>> the
    tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility would deter Putin.
    He’s
    more about Russia First than America First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/


    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad. Real
    patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't do
    this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the day,
    going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    Enjoy the day!

          I think you hit that nail right on the head. I've been trying to >> figure out what President Potato Head has done wrong, except for not
    being the orange idiot. That seems to be the whole thing. The treason
    weasel's ass kissing is seen as a sign of "strength". He went around
    and did a lot of ass kissing and look what happened? Nothing. The
    closest I could get to a specific complaint is because we withdrew
    from Afghanistan.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/02/24/1082954761/republicans-are-condemning-putin-for-the-invasion-of-ukraine-and-criticizing-bid


    "Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., attacked Biden on
    Thursday, telling reporters that the deadly U.S. withdrawal from
    Afghanistan last year had been "an invitation to the autocrats of the
    world that maybe this was a good time to make a move," as WFPL's Ryan
    Van Velzer reported."

    "https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/08/donald-trump-joe-biden-afghanistan" >>

    "TRUMP HOPES NO ONE REMEMBERS HE PUSHED FOR A FULL AFGHANISTAN
    WITHDRAWAL IN JUNE
    The 45th president is desperately trying to rewrite his own
    Afghanistan history."

    "Weirdly, Trump did not note in his statement that less than two
    months ago, he was bragging about how he started the
    Afghanistan-withdrawal process and claiming the Biden administration
    was powerless to stop it."

           OTOH this person isn't even bothering with specifics. It's
    just, "Putin bad, Biden worse."

    "(CNN)Elise Stefanik is the third-ranking Republican in the House for
    one main reason: Her unstinting loyalty to Donald Trump. And she
    hasn't forgotten that fact.

    While many of her GOP colleagues were heavily ridiculing Russian
    President Vladimir Putin on Thursday for his invasion of Ukraine,
    Stefanik took a different tack, focusing her criticism on President
    Joe Biden and laying Russian aggression at his feet.

    Here's the key bit of her statement:

    "After just one year of a weak, feckless, and unfit President of the
    United States and Commander-in-Chief, the world is less safe. Rather
    than peace through strength, we are witnessing Joe Biden's foreign
    policy of war through weakness. For the past year, our adversaries
    around the world have been assessing and measuring Joe Biden's
    leadership on the world stage, and he has abysmally failed on every
    metric. From kinetic and deadly attacks on our allies and partners, to
    the catastrophic withdrawal and surrender in Afghanistan, to the cyber
    attacks impeding American industry and infrastructure, to today's
    Russian invasion of Ukraine, Joe Biden and his Administration have
    failed America and the world."

    While Stefanik went on to call Putin a "war criminal" and a "deranged
    thug," the bulk of her statement was dedicated to excoriating Biden."

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/politics/elise-stefanik-biden-putin-russia-ukraine-invasion/index.html


    TB

    Yes he pushed for withdrawal. Biden pulling the troops is not the issue
    and you know it. How he withdrew is the big problem.


    No, I don't know that because that is not what Moscow Mitch said. According to Mitch the messy withdrawal was only part of the problem. He
    said "Biden surrendered." But, I'll add that to my list of what the
    President has done wrong. So far I have:

    1) "Biden weak, treason weasel strong"

    2) "Biden did not kiss Putin's ass enough"

    3) "Biden did not offer to appease Putin"

    4) "Putin invaded the Ukraine because our withdrawal from Afghanistan
    was not well executed"

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Feb 25 11:09:58 2022
    On 2/25/2022 7:34 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/24/2022 6:04 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
    On 2/24/2022 7:07 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 12:32 PM, dm_callier wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 11:50:00 AM UTC-8,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/23/2022 11:28 AM, George.Anthony wrote:
    Trump, Trump, Trump. Still pushing the Trump/Russian bullshit!
    This is
    the result of an incompetent, weak and literally clueless president >>>>>> Biden and over their heads members of the administration.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbc-contributor-ukraine-fault-trump-administration


    "Opinion: With his praise for Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, Trump makes >>>>> his apologists look foolish. Again."

    "It is a commonplace on the right that the only reason that Vladimir >>>>> Putin is invading Ukraine is that President Biden is too weak to deter >>>>> him. As one right-winger tweeted: “I’m convinced that Putin would be a
    lot, LOT more hesitant to invade if Trump was President. Biden simply >>>>> does not evoke any sense of strength or danger to our enemies.”

    To believe this is to suffer from temporary amnesia about how Donald >>>>> Trump actually acted toward Putin while he was in office. Who can
    forget
    Trump’s kowtow to Putin at Helsinki in 2018? The U.S. president
    rejected
    the findings of the United States’ own intelligence community about >>>>> the
    hacking of the 2016 election and said: “President Putin says it’s not >>>>> Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.” Or who can forget >>>>> Trump’s use of U.S. military aid to extort the government of Ukraine >>>>> into helping him politically? Or all of Trump’s anti-NATO animus?
    Trump
    mused about pulling out of the alliance, questioned its Article 5
    security guarantees and ordered a withdrawal of 12,000 troops from
    Germany."
    [snip]

    "At least Pompeo is willing to admit that Putin is the “aggressor” and
    the Ukrainians are his “victims.” No such censure was evident in >>>>> Trump’s
    comments Tuesday to right-wing podcaster Buck Sexton. Putin’s
    aggression
    against Ukraine is an act of “genius,” according to Trump. He
    explained:

    “Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin >>>>> declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful. ‘I said, ‘How >>>>> smart is
    that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. ... We could use >>>>> that
    on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever >>>>> seen.
    There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep >>>>> peace
    all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy.” >>>>>
    Trump went on to rhapsodize about his relationship with Putin — “He >>>>> liked me. I liked him.” — and to praise him as someone with a lot of >>>>> “charm and a lot of pride” who “loves his country.”"
    [snip]

    "So please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that Trump
    is the
    tough-on-Russia candidate or that his volatility would deter Putin.
    He’s
    more about Russia First than America First."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/02/23/trump-praises-putin-ukraine-refuting-claims-tough-on-russia/


    TB
    There you go again, trying to dazzle the already dazed and confused
    with facts. The alternate facts are clear, Vlad good, Biden bad.
    Real patriots support aggressive dictators. Or is it, Vlad wouldn't
    do this if HisMightyOrangeness were in power? At the end of the day,
    going forward, all that matters is Biden is bad. Or maybe it's
    Obama's fault? Hilary?

    Enjoy the day!

          I think you hit that nail right on the head. I've been trying >>> to figure out what President Potato Head has done wrong, except for
    not being the orange idiot. That seems to be the whole thing. The
    treason weasel's ass kissing is seen as a sign of "strength". He went
    around and did a lot of ass kissing and look what happened? Nothing.
    The closest I could get to a specific complaint is because we
    withdrew from Afghanistan.

    https://www.npr.org/2022/02/24/1082954761/republicans-are-condemning-putin-for-the-invasion-of-ukraine-and-criticizing-bid


    "Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., attacked Biden on
    Thursday, telling reporters that the deadly U.S. withdrawal from
    Afghanistan last year had been "an invitation to the autocrats of the
    world that maybe this was a good time to make a move," as WFPL's Ryan
    Van Velzer reported."

    "https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/08/donald-trump-joe-biden-afghanistan"


    "TRUMP HOPES NO ONE REMEMBERS HE PUSHED FOR A FULL AFGHANISTAN
    WITHDRAWAL IN JUNE
    The 45th president is desperately trying to rewrite his own
    Afghanistan history."

    "Weirdly, Trump did not note in his statement that less than two
    months ago, he was bragging about how he started the
    Afghanistan-withdrawal process and claiming the Biden administration
    was powerless to stop it."

           OTOH this person isn't even bothering with specifics. It's
    just, "Putin bad, Biden worse."

    "(CNN)Elise Stefanik is the third-ranking Republican in the House for
    one main reason: Her unstinting loyalty to Donald Trump. And she
    hasn't forgotten that fact.

    While many of her GOP colleagues were heavily ridiculing Russian
    President Vladimir Putin on Thursday for his invasion of Ukraine,
    Stefanik took a different tack, focusing her criticism on President
    Joe Biden and laying Russian aggression at his feet.

    Here's the key bit of her statement:

    "After just one year of a weak, feckless, and unfit President of the
    United States and Commander-in-Chief, the world is less safe. Rather
    than peace through strength, we are witnessing Joe Biden's foreign
    policy of war through weakness. For the past year, our adversaries
    around the world have been assessing and measuring Joe Biden's
    leadership on the world stage, and he has abysmally failed on every
    metric. From kinetic and deadly attacks on our allies and partners,
    to the catastrophic withdrawal and surrender in Afghanistan, to the
    cyber attacks impeding American industry and infrastructure, to
    today's Russian invasion of Ukraine, Joe Biden and his Administration
    have failed America and the world."

    While Stefanik went on to call Putin a "war criminal" and a "deranged
    thug," the bulk of her statement was dedicated to excoriating Biden."

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/politics/elise-stefanik-biden-putin-russia-ukraine-invasion/index.html


    TB

    Yes he pushed for withdrawal. Biden pulling the troops is not the
    issue and you know it. How he withdrew is the big problem.


         No, I don't know that because that is not what Moscow Mitch said. According to Mitch the messy withdrawal was only part of the problem. He
    said "Biden surrendered." But, I'll add that to my list of what the
    President has done wrong. So far I have:

    1) "Biden weak, treason weasel strong"

    2) "Biden did not kiss Putin's ass enough"

    3) "Biden did not offer to appease Putin"

    4) "Putin invaded the Ukraine because our withdrawal from Afghanistan
    was not well executed"

    TB
    First off, Mitch McConnell has an opinion like anyone else and like you,
    he is often wrong. Second you got 50% right (or is that 36%). Your
    numbers one and four are spot on. Take a bow.

    --
    The science didn't change. The lies stopped working and the mid-terms
    are getting closer.

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