• John Oliver on CRT

    From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 21 09:24:13 2022
    John Oliver spends almost half an hour talking about CRT. I thought
    it was a pretty good explanation of what's going on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EICp1vGlh_U

    TB

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  • From filmbydon@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Tue Feb 22 00:49:06 2022
    On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 9:24:24 AM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
    John Oliver spends almost half an hour talking about CRT. I thought
    it was a pretty good explanation of what's going on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EICp1vGlh_U

    TB

    I wonder when the CGT (Critical Gender Theory) will rear it's angry head? Women have traditionally been the most screwed over, oppressed, bunch of people on the planet! Anyone who ever laughed at the song, "Put Another Log on the Fire", knows all
    about that!

    Witch Hazel Jr.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to film...@gmail.com on Tue Feb 22 07:28:49 2022
    On 2/22/2022 12:49 AM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 9:24:24 AM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
    John Oliver spends almost half an hour talking about CRT. I thought
    it was a pretty good explanation of what's going on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EICp1vGlh_U

    TB

    I wonder when the CGT (Critical Gender Theory) will rear it's angry head? Women have traditionally been the most screwed over, oppressed, bunch of people on the planet! Anyone who ever laughed at the song, "Put Another Log on the Fire", knows all
    about that!

    Witch Hazel Jr.

    CGT probably already exists under some other name. CRT is part of Critical Legal Studies. The results of CGT would probably be very
    different from CRT. CGT would have to look at how the women end up with
    all the money and the many legal advantages women have. For example,
    there was recently a brief mummer in Congress about requiring women to
    register for the military draft. Relatively few people are ready for
    anything that radical.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_legal_studies

    "Critical legal studies (CLS) is a school of critical theory that
    developed in the United States during the 1970s.[1] CLS adherents claim
    that laws are devised to maintain the status quo of society and thereby
    codify its biases against marginalized groups.[2] Despite wide variation
    in the opinions of critical legal scholars around the world, there is
    general consensus[3] regarding the key goals of Critical Legal Studies:

    to demonstrate the ambiguity and possible preferential outcomes of
    supposedly impartial and rigid legal doctrines.

    to publicize historical, social, economic and psychological results of
    legal decisions

    to demystify legal analysis and legal culture in order to impose
    transparency on legal processes so that they earn the general support of socially responsible citizens"

    The women have "come a long way, baby", but both groups have a
    long way to go. My wife tells me that most of the working women she
    knows are still expected to do the bulk of the cooking and cleaning at
    home. I don't think any Critical Legal Theory is going to change that.

    TB

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Tue Feb 22 08:34:41 2022
    On 2/22/2022 7:28 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On 2/22/2022 12:49 AM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 9:24:24 AM UTC-8, Technobarbarian wrote:
    John Oliver spends almost half an hour talking about CRT. I thought
    it was a pretty good explanation of what's going on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EICp1vGlh_U

    TB

    I wonder when the CGT (Critical Gender Theory) will rear it's angry
    head?  Women have traditionally been the most screwed over,
    oppressed, bunch of people on the planet!  Anyone who ever laughed at
    the song, "Put Another Log on the Fire",  knows all about that!

      Witch Hazel Jr.

         CGT probably already exists under some other name. CRT is part of Critical Legal Studies. The results of CGT would probably be very
    different from CRT. CGT would have to look at how the women end up with
    all the money and the many legal advantages women have. For example,
    there was recently a brief mummer in Congress about requiring women to register for the military draft. Relatively few people are ready for
    anything that radical.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_legal_studies

    "Critical legal studies (CLS) is a school of critical theory that
    developed in the United States during the 1970s.[1] CLS adherents claim
    that laws are devised to maintain the status quo of society and thereby codify its biases against marginalized groups.[2] Despite wide variation
    in the opinions of critical legal scholars around the world, there is
    general consensus[3] regarding the key goals of Critical Legal Studies:

    to demonstrate the ambiguity and possible preferential outcomes of
    supposedly impartial and rigid legal doctrines.

    to publicize historical, social, economic and psychological results of
    legal decisions

    to demystify legal analysis and legal culture in order to impose
    transparency on legal processes so that they earn the general support of socially responsible citizens"

         The women have "come a long way, baby", but both groups have a
    long way to go. My wife tells me that most of the working women she
    knows are still expected to do the bulk of the cooking and cleaning at
    home. I don't think any Critical Legal Theory is going to change that.

    TB


    I went looking for CGT and got some fun results. Most of this is
    not a form of critical legal theory because they're not focused on the
    legal aspects.

    https://cgs.ucsd.edu/

    "WELCOME TO CRITICAL GENDER STUDIES
    Critical Gender Studies is an undergraduate program specializing in the
    study of gender and sexuality. We came to life as a program in Women’s Studies, but at the urging of faculty and students, reconstituted
    ourselves in 1998 by pairing gender studies and sexuality studies in one
    course of study. Our students learn to think in creative and productive
    ways, gaining analytic strengths and conceptual agility by frequently
    crossing the boundaries of established disciplines.

    As a small, enthusiastic program, we take pride in our ability to get to
    know our students well, and in fostering a lively community of students
    and faculty who share a commitment to innovative scholarship and
    creative thinking."

    https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780190236953.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780190236953-e-60

    "Gender Theory in Philosophy of Race"

    "The subject of critical race theory is implicitly black men, and the
    main idea is race. The subject of feminism is implicitly white women,
    and the main idea is gender. When the main idea is race, gender loses
    its importance and when the main idea is gender, race loses its
    importance. In both cases, women of color, especially black women, are
    left out. Needed is a new critical theory to address the oppression of nonwhite, especially black, women. Critical plunder theory would begin
    with the facts of uncompensated appropriation of the biological products
    of women of color, such as sexuality and children."

    https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/subject_specific_writing/writing_in_literature/literary_theory_and_schools_of_criticism/gender_studies_and_queer_theory.html

    "Gender Studies and Queer Theory (1970s-present)
    GENDER(S), POWER, AND MARGINALIZATION
    Gender studies and queer theory explore issues of sexuality, power, and marginalized populations (woman as other) in literature and culture.
    Much of the work in gender studies and queer theory, while influenced by feminist criticism, emerges from post-structural interest in fragmented, de-centered knowledge building (Nietzsche, Derrida, Foucault), language
    (the breakdown of sign-signifier), and psychoanalysis (Lacan).

    A primary concern in gender studies and queer theory is the manner in
    which gender and sexuality is discussed: "Effective as this work
    [feminism] was in changing what teachers taught and what the students
    read, there was a sense on the part of some feminist critics that...it
    was still the old game that was being played, when what it needed was a
    new game entirely. The argument posed was that in order to counter
    patriarchy, it was necessary not merely to think about new texts, but to
    think about them in radically new ways" (Richter 1432).

    Therefore, a critic working in gender studies and queer theory might
    even be uncomfortable with the binary established by many feminist
    scholars between masculine and feminine: "Cixous (following Derrida in
    Of Grammatology) sets up a series of binary oppositions (active/passive, sun/moon...father/mother, logos/pathos). Each pair can be analyzed as a hierarchy in which the former term represents the positive and masculine
    and the latter the negative and feminine principle" (Richter 1433-1434)."

    I think we aren't hearing about Critical Gender Theory because
    the retrumplicans have other ways of demonizing women and anyone who
    isn't 100% heteronormative. Limbaugh's "Feminazis" pretty much sums up
    the way they attack women in one word. Our recent wave of book burning
    has focused on people who are not heteronormative. So the battle over
    CGT started a long time ago. We just give it different names.

    Someone has probably already said this, but this is a new rule for
    me. So TB's rule: "In a battle of words, words are one of the first
    victims."

    TB

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