• Re: Hey Kevin

    From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat Feb 19 18:06:15 2022
    On 2/19/2022 10:41 AM, bfh wrote:
    DATE    TIME_ZONE    DOWNLOAD    UPLOAD LATENCY
    02/19/2022 13:25    GMT    240.88    16.18    84
    02/19/2022 12:11    GMT    96.06    10.85    85
    02/19/2022 12:09    GMT    209.62    11.67    97
    02/19/2022 0:12    GMT    79.52    6.61        64
    02/18/2022 16:59    GMT    80.38    7.11        61
    02/18/2022 14:35    GMT    115.37    12.85    55
    02/18/2022 2:19    GMT    92.47    8.21        53
    02/17/2022 12:15    GMT    93.55    12.95    63
    02/16/2022 12:25    GMT    34.52    12.49    70
    02/16/2022 1:54    GMT    56.72    7.19        54
    02/15/2022 22:33    GMT    126.4    11.76    51
    02/15/2022 19:21    GMT    72.73    8.96        71
    02/15/2022 16:12    GMT    38.09    10.85    63
    02/15/2022 14:49    GMT    130.65    9.6        77
    02/15/2022 13:54    GMT    215.19    13.06    63
    02/15/2022 13:45    GMT    65         3.15    95
    02/15/2022 13:39    GMT    189.17    10.47    87
    02/15/2022 13:15    GMT    171.11    10.93    87
    02/15/2022 12:57    GMT    25.72    7.25        62
    02/15/2022 12:44    GMT    101.7    14.22    87



    You lucky bastard. I would never rub it in, if'n it were me...

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat Feb 19 19:23:21 2022
    On 2/19/2022 12:41 PM, bfh wrote:
    DATE    TIME_ZONE    DOWNLOAD    UPLOAD LATENCY
    02/19/2022 13:25    GMT    240.88    16.18    84
    02/19/2022 12:11    GMT    96.06    10.85    85
    02/19/2022 12:09    GMT    209.62    11.67    97
    02/19/2022 0:12    GMT    79.52    6.61        64
    02/18/2022 16:59    GMT    80.38    7.11        61
    02/18/2022 14:35    GMT    115.37    12.85    55
    02/18/2022 2:19    GMT    92.47    8.21        53
    02/17/2022 12:15    GMT    93.55    12.95    63
    02/16/2022 12:25    GMT    34.52    12.49    70
    02/16/2022 1:54    GMT    56.72    7.19        54
    02/15/2022 22:33    GMT    126.4    11.76    51
    02/15/2022 19:21    GMT    72.73    8.96        71
    02/15/2022 16:12    GMT    38.09    10.85    63
    02/15/2022 14:49    GMT    130.65    9.6        77
    02/15/2022 13:54    GMT    215.19    13.06    63
    02/15/2022 13:45    GMT    65         3.15    95
    02/15/2022 13:39    GMT    189.17    10.47    87
    02/15/2022 13:15    GMT    171.11    10.93    87
    02/15/2022 12:57    GMT    25.72    7.25        62
    02/15/2022 12:44    GMT    101.7    14.22    87


    That seems awfully inconsistent. Are the Russians jamming those
    satellites in preparation for a siege on Ukraine?

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Sat Feb 19 23:42:06 2022
    George.Anthony wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 12:41 PM, bfh wrote:
    DATE    TIME_ZONE    DOWNLOAD    UPLOAD LATENCY >> 02/19/2022 13:25    GMT    240.88    16.18    84
    02/19/2022 12:11    GMT    96.06    10.85    85
    02/19/2022 12:09    GMT    209.62    11.67    97
    02/19/2022 0:12    GMT    79.52    6.61        64
    02/18/2022 16:59    GMT    80.38    7.11        61
    02/18/2022 14:35    GMT    115.37    12.85    55
    02/18/2022 2:19    GMT    92.47    8.21        53
    02/17/2022 12:15    GMT    93.55    12.95    63
    02/16/2022 12:25    GMT    34.52    12.49    70
    02/16/2022 1:54    GMT    56.72    7.19        54
    02/15/2022 22:33    GMT    126.4    11.76    51
    02/15/2022 19:21    GMT    72.73    8.96        71
    02/15/2022 16:12    GMT    38.09    10.85    63
    02/15/2022 14:49    GMT    130.65    9.6        77
    02/15/2022 13:54    GMT    215.19    13.06    63
    02/15/2022 13:45    GMT    65         3.15    95
    02/15/2022 13:39    GMT    189.17    10.47    87
    02/15/2022 13:15    GMT    171.11    10.93    87
    02/15/2022 12:57    GMT    25.72    7.25        62
    02/15/2022 12:44    GMT    101.7    14.22    87


    That seems awfully inconsistent. Are the Russians jamming those
    satellites in preparation for a siege on Ukraine?

    Probably. Biden says it's only days away.................however, at
    the end of the day going forward, I speculate that my particular
    problem is literally not enough satellites and too many trees.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Sat Feb 19 23:47:23 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 10:41 AM, bfh wrote:
    DATE    TIME_ZONE    DOWNLOAD    UPLOAD LATENCY >> 02/19/2022 13:25    GMT    240.88    16.18    84
    02/19/2022 12:11    GMT    96.06    10.85    85
    02/19/2022 12:09    GMT    209.62    11.67    97
    02/19/2022 0:12    GMT    79.52    6.61        64
    02/18/2022 16:59    GMT    80.38    7.11        61
    02/18/2022 14:35    GMT    115.37    12.85    55
    02/18/2022 2:19    GMT    92.47    8.21        53
    02/17/2022 12:15    GMT    93.55    12.95    63
    02/16/2022 12:25    GMT    34.52    12.49    70
    02/16/2022 1:54    GMT    56.72    7.19        54
    02/15/2022 22:33    GMT    126.4    11.76    51
    02/15/2022 19:21    GMT    72.73    8.96        71
    02/15/2022 16:12    GMT    38.09    10.85    63
    02/15/2022 14:49    GMT    130.65    9.6        77
    02/15/2022 13:54    GMT    215.19    13.06    63
    02/15/2022 13:45    GMT    65         3.15    95
    02/15/2022 13:39    GMT    189.17    10.47    87
    02/15/2022 13:15    GMT    171.11    10.93    87
    02/15/2022 12:57    GMT    25.72    7.25        62
    02/15/2022 12:44    GMT    101.7    14.22    87



    You lucky bastard. I would never rub it in, if'n it were me...

    Of course you wouldn't, but I still don't understand why you're behind me. https://sebsebmc.github.io/starlink-coverage/index.html

    When is your estimated get-your-stuff date?

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Sun Feb 20 19:23:08 2022
    On 2/19/2022 8:47 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 10:41 AM, bfh wrote:
    DATE    TIME_ZONE    DOWNLOAD    UPLOAD LATENCY >>> 02/19/2022 13:25    GMT    240.88    16.18    84
    02/19/2022 12:11    GMT    96.06    10.85    85
    02/19/2022 12:09    GMT    209.62    11.67    97
    02/19/2022 0:12    GMT    79.52    6.61        64
    02/18/2022 16:59    GMT    80.38    7.11        61
    02/18/2022 14:35    GMT    115.37    12.85    55
    02/18/2022 2:19    GMT    92.47    8.21        53
    02/17/2022 12:15    GMT    93.55    12.95    63
    02/16/2022 12:25    GMT    34.52    12.49    70
    02/16/2022 1:54    GMT    56.72    7.19        54
    02/15/2022 22:33    GMT    126.4    11.76    51
    02/15/2022 19:21    GMT    72.73    8.96        71
    02/15/2022 16:12    GMT    38.09    10.85    63
    02/15/2022 14:49    GMT    130.65    9.6        77
    02/15/2022 13:54    GMT    215.19    13.06    63
    02/15/2022 13:45    GMT    65         3.15    95
    02/15/2022 13:39    GMT    189.17    10.47    87
    02/15/2022 13:15    GMT    171.11    10.93    87
    02/15/2022 12:57    GMT    25.72    7.25        62
    02/15/2022 12:44    GMT    101.7    14.22    87



    You lucky bastard. I would never rub it in, if'n it were me...

    Of course you wouldn't, but I still don't understand why you're behind me. https://sebsebmc.github.io/starlink-coverage/index.html

    When is your estimated get-your-stuff date?


    "Starlink expects to expand service in your area by mid 2022."

    A few months ago it was "late 2021".

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Sun Feb 20 23:47:48 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 8:47 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/19/2022 10:41 AM, bfh wrote:
    DATE    TIME_ZONE    DOWNLOAD    UPLOAD
    LATENCY
    02/19/2022 13:25    GMT    240.88  ÂÂ
    16.18    84
    02/19/2022 12:11    GMT    96.06  ÂÂ
    10.85    85
    02/19/2022 12:09    GMT    209.62  ÂÂ
    11.67    97
    02/19/2022 0:12    GMT    79.52  ÂÂ
    6.61        64 >>>> 02/18/2022 16:59    GMT    80.38  ÂÂ
    7.11        61 >>>> 02/18/2022 14:35    GMT    115.37  ÂÂ
    12.85    55
    02/18/2022 2:19    GMT    92.47  ÂÂ
    8.21        53 >>>> 02/17/2022 12:15    GMT    93.55  ÂÂ
    12.95    63
    02/16/2022 12:25    GMT    34.52  ÂÂ
    12.49    70
    02/16/2022 1:54    GMT    56.72  ÂÂ
    7.19        54 >>>> 02/15/2022 22:33    GMT    126.4  ÂÂ
    11.76    51
    02/15/2022 19:21    GMT    72.73  ÂÂ
    8.96        71 >>>> 02/15/2022 16:12    GMT    38.09  ÂÂ
    10.85    63
    02/15/2022 14:49    GMT    130.65  ÂÂ
    9.6        77
    02/15/2022 13:54    GMT    215.19  ÂÂ
    13.06    63
    02/15/2022 13:45    GMT   >>>> 65         3.15    95
    02/15/2022 13:39    GMT    189.17  ÂÂ
    10.47    87
    02/15/2022 13:15    GMT    171.11  ÂÂ
    10.93    87
    02/15/2022 12:57    GMT    25.72  ÂÂ
    7.25        62 >>>> 02/15/2022 12:44    GMT    101.7  ÂÂ
    14.22    87



    You lucky bastard. I would never rub it in, if'n it were me...

    Of course you wouldn't, but I still don't understand why you're
    behind me.
    https://sebsebmc.github.io/starlink-coverage/index.html

    When is your estimated get-your-stuff date?


    "Starlink expects to expand service in your area by mid 2022."

    A few months ago it was "late 2021".

    I still don't get it. You've got better coverage up over there than I
    do here.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 18 01:30:49 2022
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1URGihhgbhqQ66PE1nskKUhwZTvibBDZV/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true

    --
    bill
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  • From Frank Tabor@21:1/5 to bfh on Mon Apr 18 10:21:40 2022
    On 4/18/22 01:30, bfh wrote:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1URGihhgbhqQ66PE1nskKUhwZTvibBDZV/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true



    Being satellite, I can understand the variations in speeds and latency.
    What I don't get is the changes i IP addresses. 6 years here and the
    onlytime my IP changes is when I change the router. Otherwise, the IP
    remains the same for years. Even through reboots and power losses. The
    same IP is always reassigned.

    But, what's really important is how you perceive your service. Is it
    mostly satisfactory or not? Is it better than the fractional DSL and
    satellite service you had before?

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Frank Tabor on Mon Apr 18 13:23:15 2022
    Frank Tabor wrote:
    On 4/18/22 01:30, bfh wrote:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1URGihhgbhqQ66PE1nskKUhwZTvibBDZV/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true



    Being satellite, I can understand the variations in speeds and
    latency. What I don't get is the changes i IP addresses. 6 years here
    and the onlytime my IP changes is when I change the router. Otherwise,
    the IP remains the same for years. Even through reboots and power
    losses. The same IP is always reassigned.

    Not being an expert in Starlink, all I can do is give you the
    variables that I know about:

    First, I'm connected to the Starlink router wirelessly with an old
    smartfone which is tethered to my desktop by USB.
    Then:
    Different satellites at different times.
    Different ground stations at different times.
    Possibly different POPs at different times.
    I've rebooted the smartfone occasionally.
    I've rebooted the starlink router occasionally.
    I've rebooted the desktop occasionally.

    Go here:
    https://starlink.sx/
    then click the cross in the upper right and set your home position (or
    mine), and watch what happens over time.

    The blue and green dots are sats, the orange dots are ground stations,
    and the triangles are what I think are POPs. I assume that what you
    and I see there is theoretical, because that site is not aware of my
    starlink router, occasional obstructions from my pine trees or oak
    trees, or other problems from weather and such - or even of the
    rhinoceros on my roof: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_dgR0Eo2QoP4Vxt_vc7b6t7NcAaGdSA2/view?usp=sharing


    And it also assumes that the person (not associated with Starlink or
    SpaceX) who built that site knows what he's doing.

    Also, I've selected which ground station I use for Ookla speed tests,
    and I might be using other ones when I'm actually web surfing.

    But, what's really important is how you perceive your service. Is it
    mostly satisfactory or not? Is it better than the fractional DSL and satellite service you had before?

    Oh yes! Even at its worst, it's 10-20 times faster than my DSL, and at
    its best, it's about 100 times faster. Average latency - about 50 ms -
    is about the same as my DSL. Latency on Hughesnet sat was 600-800.

    --
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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Mon Apr 18 11:47:31 2022
    On 4/17/2022 10:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1URGihhgbhqQ66PE1nskKUhwZTvibBDZV/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true



    Interesting. Thanks. I also read your response to Tabor. The latency is
    not bad at all. Some of it could be attributed to your end point
    equipment but probably not all. In any event, it's waaaay better than my
    DSL and I'd grab it in a heartbeat.

    Have you had many outages? Any that lasted longer than a minute or so?
    Have to tried streaming a movie or such? Are you using the newer square
    dishy or the round one?

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Mon Apr 18 16:47:31 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/17/2022 10:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1URGihhgbhqQ66PE1nskKUhwZTvibBDZV/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true



    Interesting. Thanks. I also read your response to Tabor. The latency
    is not bad at all. Some of it could be attributed to your end point
    equipment but probably not all.

    Well, as near as I can tell, the signal has to go from me to the sat
    to the ground station to the internet, then back to the ground station
    to the sat to me.

    In any event, it's waaaay better than
    my DSL and I'd grab it in a heartbeat.

    Have you had many outages?

    According to the starlink app, I've had 2 minutes worth in the last 12
    hours. I haven't noticed any of them, and I attribute most of them to
    the roof rhino.

    Any that lasted longer than a minute or so?

    No.

    Have to tried streaming a movie or such?

    I stream movies and TV programs about 2-3 hours a night, and have had
    no problems. I used to get the rotating arrow frequently with DSL.

    Are you using the newer square dishy or the round one?

    I have the square one - but it's rectangular. Must have gotten too
    near a black hole during shipment.

    I'm as happy as a fox in a chicken coop. Or a possum in a dead cow.
    Coon in a fig tree. Squirrel in RORT.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Mon Apr 18 19:09:15 2022
    On 4/18/2022 1:47 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/17/2022 10:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1URGihhgbhqQ66PE1nskKUhwZTvibBDZV/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true



    Interesting. Thanks. I also read your response to Tabor. The latency
    is not bad at all. Some of it could be attributed to your end point
    equipment but probably not all.

    Well, as near as I can tell, the signal has to go from me to the sat to
    the ground station to the internet, then back to the ground station to
    the sat to me.

     In any event, it's waaaay better than
    my DSL and I'd grab it in a heartbeat.

    Have you had many outages?

    According to the starlink app, I've had 2 minutes worth in the last 12
    hours. I haven't noticed any of them, and I attribute most of them to
    the roof rhino.

    Any that lasted longer than a minute or so?

    No.

    Have to tried streaming a movie or such?

    I stream movies and TV programs about 2-3 hours a night, and have had no problems. I used to get the rotating arrow frequently with DSL.

    Are you using the newer square dishy or the round one?

    I have the square one - but it's rectangular. Must have gotten too near
    a black hole during shipment.

    I'm as happy as a fox in a chicken coop. Or a possum in a dead cow. Coon
    in a fig tree. Squirrel in RORT.


    You lucky bastard.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Mon Apr 18 23:09:08 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/18/2022 1:47 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/17/2022 10:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1URGihhgbhqQ66PE1nskKUhwZTvibBDZV/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true



    Interesting. Thanks. I also read your response to Tabor. The
    latency is not bad at all. Some of it could be attributed to your
    end point equipment but probably not all.

    Well, as near as I can tell, the signal has to go from me to the sat
    to the ground station to the internet, then back to the ground
    station to the sat to me.

     Â In any event, it's waaaay better than
    my DSL and I'd grab it in a heartbeat.

    Have you had many outages?

    According to the starlink app, I've had 2 minutes worth in the last
    12 hours. I haven't noticed any of them, and I attribute most of
    them to the roof rhino.

    Any that lasted longer than a minute or so?

    No.

    Have to tried streaming a movie or such?

    I stream movies and TV programs about 2-3 hours a night, and have
    had no problems. I used to get the rotating arrow frequently with DSL.

    Are you using the newer square dishy or the round one?

    I have the square one - but it's rectangular. Must have gotten too
    near a black hole during shipment.

    I'm as happy as a fox in a chicken coop. Or a possum in a dead cow.
    Coon in a fig tree. Squirrel in RORT.


    You lucky bastard.

    If you're going to keep insisting that I'm lucky, I'm going to have to
    insist that I'm not a bastard. For me to be both would literally be inequitable and unfair to people who are only one or the other.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Apr 20 07:00:09 2022
    On 4/18/2022 8:09 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/18/2022 1:47 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/17/2022 10:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1URGihhgbhqQ66PE1nskKUhwZTvibBDZV/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true



    Interesting. Thanks. I also read your response to Tabor. The latency
    is not bad at all. Some of it could be attributed to your end point
    equipment but probably not all.

    Well, as near as I can tell, the signal has to go from me to the sat
    to the ground station to the internet, then back to the ground
    station to the sat to me.

     Â In any event, it's waaaay better than
    my DSL and I'd grab it in a heartbeat.

    Have you had many outages?

    According to the starlink app, I've had 2 minutes worth in the last
    12 hours. I haven't noticed any of them, and I attribute most of them
    to the roof rhino.

    Any that lasted longer than a minute or so?

    No.

    Have to tried streaming a movie or such?

    I stream movies and TV programs about 2-3 hours a night, and have had
    no problems. I used to get the rotating arrow frequently with DSL.

    Are you using the newer square dishy or the round one?

    I have the square one - but it's rectangular. Must have gotten too
    near a black hole during shipment.

    I'm as happy as a fox in a chicken coop. Or a possum in a dead cow.
    Coon in a fig tree. Squirrel in RORT.


    You lucky bastard.

    If you're going to keep insisting that I'm lucky, I'm going to have to
    insist that I'm not a bastard. For me to be both would literally be inequitable and unfair to people who are only one or the other.


    Removing the option for them to achieve bothness (as you have) would be
    even more unfairish.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Wed Apr 20 12:37:08 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/18/2022 8:09 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/18/2022 1:47 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/17/2022 10:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1URGihhgbhqQ66PE1nskKUhwZTvibBDZV/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true



    Interesting. Thanks. I also read your response to Tabor. The
    latency is not bad at all. Some of it could be attributed to your
    end point equipment but probably not all.

    Well, as near as I can tell, the signal has to go from me to the
    sat to the ground station to the internet, then back to the ground
    station to the sat to me.

     Â In any event, it's waaaay better than
    my DSL and I'd grab it in a heartbeat.

    Have you had many outages?

    According to the starlink app, I've had 2 minutes worth in the
    last 12 hours. I haven't noticed any of them, and I attribute most
    of them to the roof rhino.

    Any that lasted longer than a minute or so?

    No.

    Have to tried streaming a movie or such?

    I stream movies and TV programs about 2-3 hours a night, and have
    had no problems. I used to get the rotating arrow frequently with
    DSL.

    Are you using the newer square dishy or the round one?

    I have the square one - but it's rectangular. Must have gotten too
    near a black hole during shipment.

    I'm as happy as a fox in a chicken coop. Or a possum in a dead
    cow. Coon in a fig tree. Squirrel in RORT.


    You lucky bastard.

    If you're going to keep insisting that I'm lucky, I'm going to have
    to insist that I'm not a bastard. For me to be both would literally
    be inequitable and unfair to people who are only one or the other.


    Removing the option for them to achieve bothness (as you have) would
    be even more unfairish.

    At the end of the day going forward, I disagree. Their having the
    option, but failing to achieve it will literally do irreparable damage
    to their self-esteem. I allege that adjusting the calculus and metrics
    of the messaging to significantly downplay the actuality and
    desirability of bothness would be more compassionate. It's The Right
    Thing To Do. Particularly in this time when the significance of the
    passage of time is significant.

    58/193/15 @ 12:31 PM

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Apr 20 18:44:22 2022
    On 4/20/2022 9:37 AM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/18/2022 8:09 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/18/2022 1:47 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/17/2022 10:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1URGihhgbhqQ66PE1nskKUhwZTvibBDZV/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true



    Interesting. Thanks. I also read your response to Tabor. The
    latency is not bad at all. Some of it could be attributed to your
    end point equipment but probably not all.

    Well, as near as I can tell, the signal has to go from me to the
    sat to the ground station to the internet, then back to the ground
    station to the sat to me.

     Â In any event, it's waaaay better than
    my DSL and I'd grab it in a heartbeat.

    Have you had many outages?

    According to the starlink app, I've had 2 minutes worth in the last
    12 hours. I haven't noticed any of them, and I attribute most of
    them to the roof rhino.

    Any that lasted longer than a minute or so?

    No.

    Have to tried streaming a movie or such?

    I stream movies and TV programs about 2-3 hours a night, and have
    had no problems. I used to get the rotating arrow frequently with DSL. >>>>>
    Are you using the newer square dishy or the round one?

    I have the square one - but it's rectangular. Must have gotten too
    near a black hole during shipment.

    I'm as happy as a fox in a chicken coop. Or a possum in a dead cow.
    Coon in a fig tree. Squirrel in RORT.


    You lucky bastard.

    If you're going to keep insisting that I'm lucky, I'm going to have
    to insist that I'm not a bastard. For me to be both would literally
    be inequitable and unfair to people who are only one or the other.


    Removing the option for them to achieve bothness (as you have) would
    be even more unfairish.

    At the end of the day going forward, I disagree. Their having the
    option, but failing to achieve it will literally do irreparable damage
    to their self-esteem. I allege that adjusting the calculus and metrics
    of the messaging to significantly downplay the actuality and
    desirability of bothness would be more compassionate. It's The Right
    Thing To Do. Particularly in this time when the significance of the
    passage of time is significant.

    58/193/15 @ 12:31 PM


    You would abort their option to succeed even after their little hearts
    have started beating bothishly. How cruel. Next, you'll want to remove
    their options to learn to add bastard to lucky because you think the
    count was achieved by reference to some critical race theory which you
    won't even enter. Damn. That's stooping lower than a dead possum under a
    fig tree.

    Bothism now, Bothism tomorrow, and Bothism forever!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Wed Apr 20 23:36:20 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/20/2022 9:37 AM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/18/2022 8:09 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/18/2022 1:47 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 4/17/2022 10:30 PM, bfh wrote:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1URGihhgbhqQ66PE1nskKUhwZTvibBDZV/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true



    Interesting. Thanks. I also read your response to Tabor. The
    latency is not bad at all. Some of it could be attributed to
    your end point equipment but probably not all.

    Well, as near as I can tell, the signal has to go from me to the
    sat to the ground station to the internet, then back to the
    ground station to the sat to me.

     Â In any event, it's waaaay better than >>>>>>> my DSL and I'd grab it in a heartbeat.

    Have you had many outages?

    According to the starlink app, I've had 2 minutes worth in the
    last 12 hours. I haven't noticed any of them, and I attribute
    most of them to the roof rhino.

    Any that lasted longer than a minute or so?

    No.

    Have to tried streaming a movie or such?

    I stream movies and TV programs about 2-3 hours a night, and
    have had no problems. I used to get the rotating arrow
    frequently with DSL.

    Are you using the newer square dishy or the round one?

    I have the square one - but it's rectangular. Must have gotten
    too near a black hole during shipment.

    I'm as happy as a fox in a chicken coop. Or a possum in a dead
    cow. Coon in a fig tree. Squirrel in RORT.


    You lucky bastard.

    If you're going to keep insisting that I'm lucky, I'm going to
    have to insist that I'm not a bastard. For me to be both would
    literally be inequitable and unfair to people who are only one or
    the other.


    Removing the option for them to achieve bothness (as you have)
    would be even more unfairish.

    At the end of the day going forward, I disagree. Their having the
    option, but failing to achieve it will literally do irreparable
    damage to their self-esteem. I allege that adjusting the calculus
    and metrics of the messaging to significantly downplay the actuality
    and desirability of bothness would be more compassionate. It's The
    Right Thing To Do. Particularly in this time when the significance
    of the passage of time is significant.

    58/193/15 @ 12:31 PM


    You would abort their option to succeed even after their little hearts
    have started beating bothishly. How cruel. Next, you'll want to remove
    their options to learn to add bastard to lucky because you think the
    count was achieved by reference to some critical race theory which you
    won't even enter. Damn. That's stooping lower than a dead possum under
    a fig tree.

    That's not so..........well..............I can stoop easily enough,
    but unstooping is really hard.

    Bothism now, Bothism tomorrow, and Bothism forever!

    Have you got a T-shirt yet?

    47/79/5

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 26 14:32:54 2022
    Want something efficacious to do?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qtpUHMf5Vay5K5iVZMVGdclZapofho9t/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true

    Take the time of day and download speeds, and see if any relationship
    is revealed. I'd do it myself, but I discovered that I'm technically disadvantaged for that project.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Tue Jul 26 19:01:19 2022
    On 7/26/2022 11:32 AM, bfh wrote:
    Want something efficacious to do?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qtpUHMf5Vay5K5iVZMVGdclZapofho9t/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true


    Take the time of day and download speeds, and see if any relationship is revealed. I'd do it myself, but I discovered that I'm technically disadvantaged for that project.


    Will do.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Jul 27 18:29:39 2022
    On 7/26/2022 11:32 AM, bfh wrote:
    Want something efficacious to do?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qtpUHMf5Vay5K5iVZMVGdclZapofho9t/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true


    Take the time of day and download speeds, and see if any relationship is revealed. I'd do it myself, but I discovered that I'm technically disadvantaged for that project.


    Hey, bfh! Check it out. I can't really see any correlation to time, but
    maybe I'm missing something...

    http://www.zippodrones.com/uploads/files/download-speed-over-time.xlsx

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Thu Jul 28 01:12:51 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/26/2022 11:32 AM, bfh wrote:
    Want something efficacious to do?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qtpUHMf5Vay5K5iVZMVGdclZapofho9t/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true


    Take the time of day and download speeds, and see if any
    relationship is revealed. I'd do it myself, but I discovered that
    I'm technically disadvantaged for that project.


    Hey, bfh! Check it out. I can't really see any correlation to time,
    but maybe I'm missing something...

    http://www.zippodrones.com/uploads/files/download-speed-over-time.xlsx

    Hey, thanks. If I sort on time and change the chart to a line chart -
    and sort of blur my brain - it looks like it's mostly faster between
    about 1:30AM and about 6AM.

    However, if I do an average starting at 1:30, it stays around 120
    until about 8AM, when it starts decreasing. If I move down the column
    selecting 4-5 hours worth of cells, I can't find an average near 120
    anywhere else.

    I would like to conclude that 1:30 to 8 AM is the fastest time, but
    those sorted times could be on any date between 2/15 and now, and I
    have no idea what that is doing to the averages.

    However comma again, I do know that if I sort on date and do an
    average every 30 days from 2/15 until now, the average steadily falls.
    My first 30 days had an avg of 101, and my last 30 is 67.

    I'm more than ready for an inflection point to arrive.....but but
    but....even 20-30 Mbps has proven to be more than efficacious for web
    surfing and video streaming. I don't think I'm likely to pivot into
    literal squint-faced annoyance until I have to download a large file
    on a slow day.

    Thanks again for your help.
    Download Mbps
    57.93
    Upload Mbps
    7.75
    Ping ms 71

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Jul 28 06:26:07 2022
    On 7/27/2022 10:12 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/26/2022 11:32 AM, bfh wrote:
    Want something efficacious to do?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qtpUHMf5Vay5K5iVZMVGdclZapofho9t/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true


    Take the time of day and download speeds, and see if any relationship
    is revealed. I'd do it myself, but I discovered that I'm technically
    disadvantaged for that project.


    Hey, bfh! Check it out. I can't really see any correlation to time,
    but maybe I'm missing something...

    http://www.zippodrones.com/uploads/files/download-speed-over-time.xlsx

    Hey, thanks. If I sort on time and change the chart to a line chart -
    and sort of blur my brain - it looks like it's mostly faster between
    about 1:30AM and about 6AM.

    However, if I do an average starting at 1:30, it stays around 120 until
    about 8AM, when it starts decreasing. If I move down the column
    selecting 4-5 hours worth of cells, I can't find an average near 120
    anywhere else.

    I would like to conclude that 1:30 to 8 AM is the fastest time, but
    those sorted times could be on any date between 2/15 and now, and I have
    no idea what that is doing to the averages.

    However comma again, I do know that if I sort on date and do an average
    every 30 days from 2/15 until now, the average steadily falls. My first
    30 days had an avg of 101, and my last 30 is 67.

    I'm more than ready for an inflection point to arrive.....but but
    but....even 20-30 Mbps has proven to be more than efficacious for web
    surfing and video streaming. I don't think I'm likely to pivot into
    literal squint-faced annoyance until I have to download a large file on
    a slow day.

    Thanks again for your help.
     Download Mbps
    57.93
    Upload Mbps
    7.75
    Ping ms 71


    It looked like a bad wire brush when I sorted by time. I couldn't glean
    any rhyme or reason from it. I think you should cut down those trees and re-evaluate.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Thu Jul 28 12:48:11 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/27/2022 10:12 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/26/2022 11:32 AM, bfh wrote:
    Want something efficacious to do?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qtpUHMf5Vay5K5iVZMVGdclZapofho9t/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true


    Take the time of day and download speeds, and see if any
    relationship is revealed. I'd do it myself, but I discovered that
    I'm technically disadvantaged for that project.


    Hey, bfh! Check it out. I can't really see any correlation to time,
    but maybe I'm missing something...

    http://www.zippodrones.com/uploads/files/download-speed-over-time.xlsx

    Hey, thanks. If I sort on time and change the chart to a line chart
    - and sort of blur my brain - it looks like it's mostly faster
    between about 1:30AM and about 6AM.

    However, if I do an average starting at 1:30, it stays around 120
    until about 8AM, when it starts decreasing. If I move down the
    column selecting 4-5 hours worth of cells, I can't find an average
    near 120 anywhere else.

    I would like to conclude that 1:30 to 8 AM is the fastest time, but
    those sorted times could be on any date between 2/15 and now, and I
    have no idea what that is doing to the averages.

    However comma again, I do know that if I sort on date and do an
    average every 30 days from 2/15 until now, the average steadily
    falls. My first 30 days had an avg of 101, and my last 30 is 67.

    I'm more than ready for an inflection point to arrive.....but but
    but....even 20-30 Mbps has proven to be more than efficacious for
    web surfing and video streaming. I don't think I'm likely to pivot
    into literal squint-faced annoyance until I have to download a large
    file on a slow day.

    Thanks again for your help.
     Â Download Mbps
    57.93
    Upload Mbps
    7.75
    Ping ms 71


    It looked like a bad wire brush when I sorted by time. I couldn't
    glean any rhyme or reason from it. I think you should cut down those
    trees and re-evaluate.

    With 3-6 sats allegedly up there whenever I check, I can't convince
    myself that the trees are a big problem. For example, right now
    Starlink tells me that in the last 12 hours I've been obstructed for 1
    minute 18 seconds, no signal for 2 secs, and network issue for 14 secs.

    Also right now, that other site - which "is NOT affiliated with
    Starlink or SpaceX" - claims that there 5 available sats in view, and
    3 of them are east of north where there are no trees.

    And I can't cut down any more trees. If I did, some transitorily
    disoriented PNW tourist with a malfunctioning GPS would drive by and
    report me under the Greenie Flag laws, and before I knew it, people
    wearing birkenstocks, cargo shorts, and Earth Day T-shirts would show
    up in a camo EV to psychoanalyze me and confiscate my chainsaws.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Jul 28 13:25:05 2022
    bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/27/2022 10:12 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/26/2022 11:32 AM, bfh wrote:
    Want something efficacious to do?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qtpUHMf5Vay5K5iVZMVGdclZapofho9t/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true


    Take the time of day and download speeds, and see if any
    relationship is revealed. I'd do it myself, but I discovered that
    I'm technically disadvantaged for that project.


    Hey, bfh! Check it out. I can't really see any correlation to
    time, but maybe I'm missing something...

    http://www.zippodrones.com/uploads/files/download-speed-over-time.xlsx >>>>

    Hey, thanks. If I sort on time and change the chart to a line chart
    - and sort of blur my brain - it looks like it's mostly faster
    between about 1:30AM and about 6AM.

    However, if I do an average starting at 1:30, it stays around 120
    until about 8AM, when it starts decreasing. If I move down the
    column selecting 4-5 hours worth of cells, I can't find an average
    near 120 anywhere else.

    I would like to conclude that 1:30 to 8 AM is the fastest time, but
    those sorted times could be on any date between 2/15 and now, and I
    have no idea what that is doing to the averages.

    However comma again, I do know that if I sort on date and do an
    average every 30 days from 2/15 until now, the average steadily
    falls. My first 30 days had an avg of 101, and my last 30 is 67.

    I'm more than ready for an inflection point to arrive.....but but
    but....even 20-30 Mbps has proven to be more than efficacious for
    web surfing and video streaming. I don't think I'm likely to pivot
    into literal squint-faced annoyance until I have to download a
    large file on a slow day.

    Thanks again for your help.
     Â Download Mbps
    57.93
    Upload Mbps
    7.75
    Ping ms 71


    It looked like a bad wire brush when I sorted by time. I couldn't
    glean any rhyme or reason from it. I think you should cut down those
    trees and re-evaluate.

    With 3-6 sats allegedly up there whenever I check, I can't convince
    myself that the trees are a big problem. For example, right now
    Starlink tells me that in the last 12 hours I've been obstructed for 1
    minute 18 seconds, no signal for 2 secs, and network issue for 14 secs.

    Also right now, that other site - which "is NOT affiliated with
    Starlink or SpaceX" - claims that there 5 available sats in view, and
    3 of them are east of north where there are no trees.

    And I can't cut down any more trees. If I did, some transitorily
    disoriented PNW tourist with a malfunctioning GPS would drive by and
    report me under the Greenie Flag laws, and before I knew it, people
    wearing birkenstocks, cargo shorts, and Earth Day T-shirts would show
    up in a camo EV to psychoanalyze me and confiscate my chainsaws.

    Here's a little more:
    Avg down speed
    12AM - 6AM 107
    6AM -12PM 105
    12PM - 6PM 90
    6PM - 12AM 58

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Jul 28 16:49:45 2022
    On 7/28/2022 10:25 AM, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/27/2022 10:12 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/26/2022 11:32 AM, bfh wrote:
    Want something efficacious to do?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qtpUHMf5Vay5K5iVZMVGdclZapofho9t/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true


    Take the time of day and download speeds, and see if any
    relationship is revealed. I'd do it myself, but I discovered that
    I'm technically disadvantaged for that project.


    Hey, bfh! Check it out. I can't really see any correlation to time,
    but maybe I'm missing something...

    http://www.zippodrones.com/uploads/files/download-speed-over-time.xlsx >>>>
    Hey, thanks. If I sort on time and change the chart to a line chart
    - and sort of blur my brain - it looks like it's mostly faster
    between about 1:30AM and about 6AM.

    However, if I do an average starting at 1:30, it stays around 120
    until about 8AM, when it starts decreasing. If I move down the
    column selecting 4-5 hours worth of cells, I can't find an average
    near 120 anywhere else.

    I would like to conclude that 1:30 to 8 AM is the fastest time, but
    those sorted times could be on any date between 2/15 and now, and I
    have no idea what that is doing to the averages.

    However comma again, I do know that if I sort on date and do an
    average every 30 days from 2/15 until now, the average steadily
    falls. My first 30 days had an avg of 101, and my last 30 is 67.

    I'm more than ready for an inflection point to arrive.....but but
    but....even 20-30 Mbps has proven to be more than efficacious for
    web surfing and video streaming. I don't think I'm likely to pivot
    into literal squint-faced annoyance until I have to download a large
    file on a slow day.

    Thanks again for your help.
     Â Download Mbps
    57.93
    Upload Mbps
    7.75
    Ping ms 71


    It looked like a bad wire brush when I sorted by time. I couldn't
    glean any rhyme or reason from it. I think you should cut down those
    trees and re-evaluate.

    With 3-6 sats allegedly up there whenever I check, I can't convince
    myself that the trees are a big problem. For example, right now
    Starlink tells me that in the last 12 hours I've been obstructed for 1
    minute 18 seconds, no signal for 2 secs, and network issue for 14 secs.

    Also right now, that other site - which "is NOT affiliated with
    Starlink or SpaceX" - claims that there 5 available sats in view, and
    3 of them are east of north where there are no trees.

    And I can't cut down any more trees. If I did, some transitorily
    disoriented PNW tourist with a malfunctioning GPS would drive by and
    report me under the Greenie Flag laws, and before I knew it, people
    wearing birkenstocks, cargo shorts, and Earth Day T-shirts would show
    up in a camo EV to psychoanalyze me and confiscate my chainsaws.

    Here's a little more:
    Avg down speed
    12AM - 6AM 107
    6AM -12PM 105
    12PM - 6PM 90
    6PM - 12AM 58


    That tells me that it's fastest when you use it the most - you night
    owl, you. Also, is there any streaming going on elsewhere in the
    household during the times of measurement? Particularly, during times of
    lower speeds?

    Is that manually sampled data?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Jul 28 18:34:35 2022
    On 7/28/2022 6:17 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/28/2022 10:25 AM, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/27/2022 10:12 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/26/2022 11:32 AM, bfh wrote:
    Want something efficacious to do?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qtpUHMf5Vay5K5iVZMVGdclZapofho9t/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true


    Take the time of day and download speeds, and see if any
    relationship is revealed. I'd do it myself, but I discovered
    that I'm technically disadvantaged for that project.


    Hey, bfh! Check it out. I can't really see any correlation to
    time, but maybe I'm missing something...

    http://www.zippodrones.com/uploads/files/download-speed-over-time.xlsx >>>>>>>

    Hey, thanks. If I sort on time and change the chart to a line
    chart - and sort of blur my brain - it looks like it's mostly
    faster between about 1:30AM and about 6AM.

    However, if I do an average starting at 1:30, it stays around 120
    until about 8AM, when it starts decreasing. If I move down the
    column selecting 4-5 hours worth of cells, I can't find an average >>>>>> near 120 anywhere else.

    I would like to conclude that 1:30 to 8 AM is the fastest time,
    but those sorted times could be on any date between 2/15 and now,
    and I have no idea what that is doing to the averages.

    However comma again, I do know that if I sort on date and do an
    average every 30 days from 2/15 until now, the average steadily
    falls. My first 30 days had an avg of 101, and my last 30 is 67.

    I'm more than ready for an inflection point to arrive.....but but
    but....even 20-30 Mbps has proven to be more than efficacious for
    web surfing and video streaming. I don't think I'm likely to pivot >>>>>> into literal squint-faced annoyance until I have to download a
    large file on a slow day.

    Thanks again for your help.
     Â Download Mbps
    57.93
    Upload Mbps
    7.75
    Ping ms 71


    It looked like a bad wire brush when I sorted by time. I couldn't
    glean any rhyme or reason from it. I think you should cut down
    those trees and re-evaluate.

    With 3-6 sats allegedly up there whenever I check, I can't convince
    myself that the trees are a big problem. For example, right now
    Starlink tells me that in the last 12 hours I've been obstructed for
    1 minute 18 seconds, no signal for 2 secs, and network issue for 14
    secs.

    Also right now, that other site - which "is NOT affiliated with
    Starlink or SpaceX" - claims that there 5 available sats in view,
    and 3 of them are east of north where there are no trees.

    And I can't cut down any more trees. If I did, some transitorily
    disoriented PNW tourist with a malfunctioning GPS would drive by and
    report me under the Greenie Flag laws, and before I knew it, people
    wearing birkenstocks, cargo shorts, and Earth Day T-shirts would
    show up in a camo EV to psychoanalyze me and confiscate my chainsaws.

    Here's a little more:
    Avg down speed
    12AM - 6AM 107
    6AM -12PM 105
    12PM - 6PM 90
    6PM - 12AM 58


    That tells me that it's fastest when you use it the most - you night
    owl, you. Also, is there any streaming going on elsewhere in the
    household during the times of measurement? Particularly, during times
    of lower speeds?

    The wife is on at random times, but she rarely streams anything, and I literally doubt that she had any statistically significant effect on the Ookla tests. If I had a top-tier press secretary like Brandon has, I'd
    get her to explain to you why I think that.

    I'd certainly believe her. It's not like she'd claim the election was
    stolen, or anything like that...


    Is that manually sampled data?

    Yes, it's almost entirely manual (but with a little calculus involved)
    and I'm glad you asked. Inspired by Catmobile, I cobbled up a little
    turbine that can be slid in and out of an ethernet cable - or even a
    Starlink proprietary cable - and is spun by the flow of megabits through
    it. Once it's spinning from downloading something spinful, I use a
    Briggs & Stratton Treysit Sirometer to measure the RPM of the turbine
    which can readily be converted to Mbps with the use of my secret and as-yet-unpatented algorithm. I know it's accurate, because I calibrated
    the sirometer with my nearly always consistent 2.7 Mbps DSL connection
    while streaming a video about the Treysit.

    I think you've just publicly admitted to violating multiple patented and copyrighted phrases, materials, and techniques. I expect you'll be
    charged and prosecuted right after the DOJ finishes with the orange goon.


    Note: In case you're wondering after refamiliarizing yourself with
    Treysit operation, I put a tiny drop of JB Weld on one of the turbine
    blades - without which the Treysit would have just sat there doing
    literally nearly nothing.

    .......ummmm......crap. I just had an inconveniently timed attack of transparency which forces me to unwillingly tell you the unvarnished and unhyperbolized truth. So...........I got the data from my Ookla speed
    tests which you so considerately put into spreadsheet time and speed
    columns for me. I used those columns to get average speeds for selected
    time spans.

    However comma in my defense, I did in fact manually operate the mouse to
    get the Ookla tests started and to select the sections of the speed
    column that LibreOffice used to calculate averages.


    You, sir, are a modern miracle in an increasingly difficult and
    challenging world. Your mastery of mice is second to none and your
    ability to catalogue, correlate, disperse, dispense, and promote this
    data is simply stellar. Even the experts say so.

    96.37
    4.09
    35

    Netflix is streaming just fine during above test.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Thu Jul 28 21:17:59 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/28/2022 10:25 AM, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/27/2022 10:12 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/26/2022 11:32 AM, bfh wrote:
    Want something efficacious to do?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qtpUHMf5Vay5K5iVZMVGdclZapofho9t/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true


    Take the time of day and download speeds, and see if any
    relationship is revealed. I'd do it myself, but I discovered
    that I'm technically disadvantaged for that project.


    Hey, bfh! Check it out. I can't really see any correlation to
    time, but maybe I'm missing something...

    http://www.zippodrones.com/uploads/files/download-speed-over-time.xlsx >>>>>>

    Hey, thanks. If I sort on time and change the chart to a line
    chart - and sort of blur my brain - it looks like it's mostly
    faster between about 1:30AM and about 6AM.

    However, if I do an average starting at 1:30, it stays around 120
    until about 8AM, when it starts decreasing. If I move down the
    column selecting 4-5 hours worth of cells, I can't find an
    average near 120 anywhere else.

    I would like to conclude that 1:30 to 8 AM is the fastest time,
    but those sorted times could be on any date between 2/15 and now,
    and I have no idea what that is doing to the averages.

    However comma again, I do know that if I sort on date and do an
    average every 30 days from 2/15 until now, the average steadily
    falls. My first 30 days had an avg of 101, and my last 30 is 67.

    I'm more than ready for an inflection point to arrive.....but but
    but....even 20-30 Mbps has proven to be more than efficacious for
    web surfing and video streaming. I don't think I'm likely to
    pivot into literal squint-faced annoyance until I have to
    download a large file on a slow day.

    Thanks again for your help.
     Â Download Mbps
    57.93
    Upload Mbps
    7.75
    Ping ms 71


    It looked like a bad wire brush when I sorted by time. I couldn't
    glean any rhyme or reason from it. I think you should cut down
    those trees and re-evaluate.

    With 3-6 sats allegedly up there whenever I check, I can't convince
    myself that the trees are a big problem. For example, right now
    Starlink tells me that in the last 12 hours I've been obstructed
    for 1 minute 18 seconds, no signal for 2 secs, and network issue
    for 14 secs.

    Also right now, that other site - which "is NOT affiliated with
    Starlink or SpaceX" - claims that there 5 available sats in view,
    and 3 of them are east of north where there are no trees.

    And I can't cut down any more trees. If I did, some transitorily
    disoriented PNW tourist with a malfunctioning GPS would drive by
    and report me under the Greenie Flag laws, and before I knew it,
    people wearing birkenstocks, cargo shorts, and Earth Day T-shirts
    would show up in a camo EV to psychoanalyze me and confiscate my
    chainsaws.

    Here's a little more:
    Avg down speed
    12AM - 6AM 107
    6AM -12PM 105
    12PM - 6PM 90
    6PM - 12AM 58


    That tells me that it's fastest when you use it the most - you night
    owl, you. Also, is there any streaming going on elsewhere in the
    household during the times of measurement? Particularly, during times
    of lower speeds?

    The wife is on at random times, but she rarely streams anything, and I literally doubt that she had any statistically significant effect on
    the Ookla tests. If I had a top-tier press secretary like Brandon has,
    I'd get her to explain to you why I think that.

    Is that manually sampled data?

    Yes, it's almost entirely manual (but with a little calculus involved)
    and I'm glad you asked. Inspired by Catmobile, I cobbled up a little
    turbine that can be slid in and out of an ethernet cable - or even a
    Starlink proprietary cable - and is spun by the flow of megabits
    through it. Once it's spinning from downloading something spinful, I
    use a Briggs & Stratton Treysit Sirometer to measure the RPM of the
    turbine which can readily be converted to Mbps with the use of my
    secret and as-yet-unpatented algorithm. I know it's accurate, because
    I calibrated the sirometer with my nearly always consistent 2.7 Mbps
    DSL connection while streaming a video about the Treysit.

    Note: In case you're wondering after refamiliarizing yourself with
    Treysit operation, I put a tiny drop of JB Weld on one of the turbine
    blades - without which the Treysit would have just sat there doing
    literally nearly nothing.

    .......ummmm......crap. I just had an inconveniently timed attack of transparency which forces me to unwillingly tell you the unvarnished
    and unhyperbolized truth. So...........I got the data from my Ookla
    speed tests which you so considerately put into spreadsheet time and
    speed columns for me. I used those columns to get average speeds for
    selected time spans.

    However comma in my defense, I did in fact manually operate the mouse
    to get the Ookla tests started and to select the sections of the speed
    column that LibreOffice used to calculate averages.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Thu Jul 28 22:48:02 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/28/2022 6:17 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/28/2022 10:25 AM, bfh wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/27/2022 10:12 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 7/26/2022 11:32 AM, bfh wrote:
    Want something efficacious to do?

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qtpUHMf5Vay5K5iVZMVGdclZapofho9t/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=105875262482197039209&rtpof=true&sd=true


    Take the time of day and download speeds, and see if any
    relationship is revealed. I'd do it myself, but I discovered >>>>>>>>> that I'm technically disadvantaged for that project.


    Hey, bfh! Check it out. I can't really see any correlation to >>>>>>>> time, but maybe I'm missing something...

    http://www.zippodrones.com/uploads/files/download-speed-over-time.xlsx


    Hey, thanks. If I sort on time and change the chart to a line
    chart - and sort of blur my brain - it looks like it's mostly
    faster between about 1:30AM and about 6AM.

    However, if I do an average starting at 1:30, it stays around
    120 until about 8AM, when it starts decreasing. If I move down
    the column selecting 4-5 hours worth of cells, I can't find an
    average near 120 anywhere else.

    I would like to conclude that 1:30 to 8 AM is the fastest time, >>>>>>> but those sorted times could be on any date between 2/15 and
    now, and I have no idea what that is doing to the averages.

    However comma again, I do know that if I sort on date and do an >>>>>>> average every 30 days from 2/15 until now, the average steadily >>>>>>> falls. My first 30 days had an avg of 101, and my last 30 is 67. >>>>>>>
    I'm more than ready for an inflection point to arrive.....but
    but but....even 20-30 Mbps has proven to be more than
    efficacious for web surfing and video streaming. I don't think
    I'm likely to pivot into literal squint-faced annoyance until I >>>>>>> have to download a large file on a slow day.

    Thanks again for your help.
     Â Download Mbps
    57.93
    Upload Mbps
    7.75
    Ping ms 71


    It looked like a bad wire brush when I sorted by time. I
    couldn't glean any rhyme or reason from it. I think you should
    cut down those trees and re-evaluate.

    With 3-6 sats allegedly up there whenever I check, I can't
    convince myself that the trees are a big problem. For example,
    right now Starlink tells me that in the last 12 hours I've been
    obstructed for 1 minute 18 seconds, no signal for 2 secs, and
    network issue for 14 secs.

    Also right now, that other site - which "is NOT affiliated with
    Starlink or SpaceX" - claims that there 5 available sats in view,
    and 3 of them are east of north where there are no trees.

    And I can't cut down any more trees. If I did, some transitorily
    disoriented PNW tourist with a malfunctioning GPS would drive by
    and report me under the Greenie Flag laws, and before I knew it,
    people wearing birkenstocks, cargo shorts, and Earth Day T-shirts
    would show up in a camo EV to psychoanalyze me and confiscate my
    chainsaws.

    Here's a little more:
    Avg down speed
    12AM - 6AM 107
    6AM -12PM 105
    12PM - 6PM 90
    6PM - 12AM 58


    That tells me that it's fastest when you use it the most - you
    night owl, you. Also, is there any streaming going on elsewhere in
    the household during the times of measurement? Particularly, during
    times of lower speeds?

    The wife is on at random times, but she rarely streams anything, and
    I literally doubt that she had any statistically significant effect
    on the Ookla tests. If I had a top-tier press secretary like Brandon
    has, I'd get her to explain to you why I think that.

    I'd certainly believe her. It's not like she'd claim the election was stolen, or anything like that...


    Is that manually sampled data?

    Yes, it's almost entirely manual (but with a little calculus
    involved) and I'm glad you asked. Inspired by Catmobile, I cobbled
    up a little turbine that can be slid in and out of an ethernet cable
    - or even a Starlink proprietary cable - and is spun by the flow of
    megabits through it. Once it's spinning from downloading something
    spinful, I use a Briggs & Stratton Treysit Sirometer to measure the
    RPM of the turbine which can readily be converted to Mbps with the
    use of my secret and as-yet-unpatented algorithm. I know it's
    accurate, because I calibrated the sirometer with my nearly always
    consistent 2.7 Mbps DSL connection while streaming a video about the
    Treysit.

    I think you've just publicly admitted to violating multiple patented
    and copyrighted phrases, materials, and techniques. I expect you'll be charged and prosecuted right after the DOJ finishes with the orange goon.

    Then I don't have anything to worry about.

    Note: In case you're wondering after refamiliarizing yourself with
    Treysit operation, I put a tiny drop of JB Weld on one of the
    turbine blades - without which the Treysit would have just sat there
    doing literally nearly nothing.

    .......ummmm......crap. I just had an inconveniently timed attack of
    transparency which forces me to unwillingly tell you the unvarnished
    and unhyperbolized truth. So...........I got the data from my Ookla
    speed tests which you so considerately put into spreadsheet time and
    speed columns for me. I used those columns to get average speeds for
    selected time spans.

    However comma in my defense, I did in fact manually operate the
    mouse to get the Ookla tests started and to select the sections of
    the speed column that LibreOffice used to calculate averages.


    You, sir, are a modern miracle in an increasingly difficult and
    challenging world. Your mastery of mice is second to none and your
    ability to catalogue, correlate, disperse, dispense, and promote this
    data is simply stellar. Even the experts say so.

    Well, that's troubling. The experts are seldom right, and then then
    they soon evolve.

    96.37
    4.09
    35

    Netflix is streaming just fine during above test.

    That's good - but do you understand what they're saying?

    I, OTOH:
    Download Mbps
    28.84
    Upload Mbps
    10.29
    Ping ms 40

    Beat the crap out of you on upload, though.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 30 23:23:43 2022
    I don't feel so bad anymore. This page:
    https://starlinkstatus.space/
    says the USA average Starlink download speed is 84.65. Mine is 86.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 17 13:40:19 2022
    You might get your wish. Cheney got her butt whipped, so now she's
    free to concentrate on running for President.

    Do you think she'll run as a Republican or a Democrat - or some
    evolved triangulated affiliation to be revealed with carefully
    considered messaging at the most efficacious moment in the passage of
    time?

    The Honorable Bubba Pythagoras Darwin

    Download Mbps
    80.88
    Upload Mbps
    8.12
    Ping ms 63

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Aug 17 22:26:29 2022
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    You might get your wish. Cheney got her butt whipped, so now she's
    free to concentrate on running for President.

    Do you think she'll run as a Republican or a Democrat - or some
    evolved triangulated affiliation to be revealed with carefully
    considered messaging at the most efficacious moment in the passage of
    time?

    The Honorable Bubba Pythagoras Darwin

    Download Mbps
    80.88
    Upload Mbps
    8.12
    Ping ms 63


    She had thoughts of forming the Dumb Ass party until Pelosi told her that
    would be direct competition to the democrat party and might take votes away from them. She could run as an independent but that would have the same negative effect on democrats as the Dumb Ass party.

    --
    Liz Cheney’s pronouns… over/out.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Wed Aug 17 19:53:12 2022
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    You might get your wish. Cheney got her butt whipped, so now she's
    free to concentrate on running for President.

    Do you think she'll run as a Republican or a Democrat - or some
    evolved triangulated affiliation to be revealed with carefully
    considered messaging at the most efficacious moment in the passage of
    time?

    The Honorable Bubba Pythagoras Darwin

    Download Mbps
    80.88
    Upload Mbps
    8.12
    Ping ms 63


    She had thoughts of forming the Dumb Ass party until Pelosi told her that would be direct competition to the democrat party and might take votes away from them. She could run as an independent but that would have the same negative effect on democrats as the Dumb Ass party.


    Independent. HawHawHaw! Are there any "independents" who don't caucus
    with the Dumbass Dems? It's kinda like "moderates" - who are just
    closet Democrats.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Aug 17 18:55:08 2022
    On 8/17/2022 6:53 PM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    You might get your wish. Cheney got her butt whipped, so now she's
    free to concentrate on running for President.

    Do you think she'll run as a Republican or a Democrat - or some
    evolved triangulated affiliation to be revealed with carefully
    considered messaging at the most efficacious moment in the passage of
    time?

    The Honorable Bubba Pythagoras Darwin

    Download Mbps
    80.88
    Upload Mbps
    8.12
    Ping ms 63


    She had thoughts of forming the Dumb Ass party until Pelosi told her that
    would be direct competition to the democrat party and might take votes
    away
    from them. She could run as an independent but that would have the same
    negative effect on democrats as the Dumb Ass party.


    Independent. HawHawHaw! Are there any "independents" who don't caucus
    with the Dumbass Dems? It's kinda like "moderates" - who are just closet Democrats.

    You're right. I meant to put "independent" in quotes but my feeble old
    brain (I am qualified to register as a democrat now) forgot.

    --
    --------------
    Liberals fear Donald Trump more than they fear climate change.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Wed Aug 17 20:09:39 2022
    George.Anthony wrote:
    On 8/17/2022 6:53 PM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    You might get your wish. Cheney got her butt whipped, so now she's
    free to concentrate on running for President.

    Do you think she'll run as a Republican or a Democrat - or some
    evolved triangulated affiliation to be revealed with carefully
    considered messaging at the most efficacious moment in the passage of
    time?

    The Honorable Bubba Pythagoras Darwin

    Download Mbps
    80.88
    Upload Mbps
    8.12
    Ping ms 63


    She had thoughts of forming the Dumb Ass party until Pelosi told
    her that
    would be direct competition to the democrat party and might take
    votes away
    from them. She could run as an independent but that would have the
    same
    negative effect on democrats as the Dumb Ass party.


    Independent. HawHawHaw! Are there any "independents" who don't
    caucus with the Dumbass Dems? It's kinda like "moderates" - who are
    just closet Democrats.

    You're right. I meant to put "independent" in quotes but my feeble old
    brain (I am qualified to register as a democrat now) forgot.


    damn. Qualified to register as a Dumbass? You have my sincere
    condolences. Have you tried that jellyfish pill for your unfortunate disability?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From filmbydon@gmail.com@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Aug 17 17:56:44 2022
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 4:53:15 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    You might get your wish. Cheney got her butt whipped, so now she's
    free to concentrate on running for President.

    Do you think she'll run as a Republican or a Democrat - or some
    evolved triangulated affiliation to be revealed with carefully
    considered messaging at the most efficacious moment in the passage of
    time?

    The Honorable Bubba Pythagoras Darwin

    Download Mbps
    80.88
    Upload Mbps
    8.12
    Ping ms 63


    She had thoughts of forming the Dumb Ass party until Pelosi told her that would be direct competition to the democrat party and might take votes away from them. She could run as an independent but that would have the same negative effect on democrats as the Dumb Ass party.

    Independent. HawHawHaw! Are there any "independents" who don't caucus
    with the Dumbass Dems? It's kinda like "moderates" - who are just
    closet Democrats.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    What prezactly is your purity test, so that you can make an informed decision about who might be a "closet Democrat" when you encounter one? It seems like the "slippage" on issues about having that "correct POV" could be very troubling?

    The Vigilate Pollster

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to film...@gmail.com on Wed Aug 17 20:38:18 2022
    On 8/17/2022 7:56 PM, film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 4:53:15 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    You might get your wish. Cheney got her butt whipped, so now she's
    free to concentrate on running for President.

    Do you think she'll run as a Republican or a Democrat - or some
    evolved triangulated affiliation to be revealed with carefully
    considered messaging at the most efficacious moment in the passage of
    time?

    The Honorable Bubba Pythagoras Darwin

    Download Mbps
    80.88
    Upload Mbps
    8.12
    Ping ms 63


    She had thoughts of forming the Dumb Ass party until Pelosi told her that >>> would be direct competition to the democrat party and might take votes away >>> from them. She could run as an independent but that would have the same
    negative effect on democrats as the Dumb Ass party.

    Independent. HawHawHaw! Are there any "independents" who don't caucus
    with the Dumbass Dems? It's kinda like "moderates" - who are just
    closet Democrats.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    What prezactly is your purity test, so that you can make an informed decision about who might be a "closet Democrat" when you encounter one? It seems like the "slippage" on issues about having that "correct POV" could be very troubling?

    The Vigilate Pollster

    I'm not Bill but... liberal=democrat=moderate=independent=moderate=democrat=liberal. It's a
    vicious circle. And I do mean vicious.

    Easy for anyone with more that a pea brain to understand.

    --
    --------------
    Liberals fear Donald Trump more than they fear climate change.

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Aug 17 18:50:53 2022
    On 8/17/2022 10:40 AM, bfh wrote:
    You might get your wish. Cheney got her butt whipped, so now she's free
    to concentrate on running for President.

    Do you think she'll run as a Republican or a Democrat - or some evolved triangulated affiliation to be revealed with carefully considered
    messaging at the most efficacious moment in the passage of time?

    She can run as anything but an orange goon acolyte, as far as I'm
    concerned. I'm glad she's a Republican and not a retrumplican and I
    think Wyoming will suffer greatly under the auspices of Hageman.


    The Honorable Bubba Pythagoras Darwin

    Download Mbps
    80.88
    Upload Mbps
    8.12
    Ping ms 63


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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Aug 17 20:34:16 2022
    On 8/17/2022 7:09 PM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    On 8/17/2022 6:53 PM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    You might get your wish. Cheney got her butt whipped, so now she's
    free to concentrate on running for President.

    Do you think she'll run as a Republican or a Democrat - or some
    evolved triangulated affiliation to be revealed with carefully
    considered messaging at the most efficacious moment in the passage of >>>>> time?

    The Honorable Bubba Pythagoras Darwin

    Download Mbps
    80.88
    Upload Mbps
    8.12
    Ping ms 63


    She had thoughts of forming the Dumb Ass party until Pelosi told her
    that
    would be direct competition to the democrat party and might take
    votes away
    from them. She could run as an independent but that would have the same >>>> negative effect on democrats as the Dumb Ass party.


    Independent. HawHawHaw! Are there any "independents" who don't caucus
    with the Dumbass Dems? It's kinda like "moderates" - who are just
    closet Democrats.

    You're right. I meant to put "independent" in quotes but my feeble old
    brain (I am qualified to register as a democrat now) forgot.


    damn. Qualified to register as a Dumbass? You have my sincere
    condolences. Have you tried that jellyfish pill for your unfortunate disability?


    My desire to change is two-fold. One, more is leaving my brain than
    entering so, as I stated, that leaves me qualified to be a democrat and
    second, I need to avoid the 87K extra IRS brown shirts.

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    Liberals fear Donald Trump more than they fear climate change.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to film...@gmail.com on Wed Aug 17 22:03:19 2022
    film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 4:53:15 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    You might get your wish. Cheney got her butt whipped, so now she's
    free to concentrate on running for President.

    Do you think she'll run as a Republican or a Democrat - or some
    evolved triangulated affiliation to be revealed with carefully
    considered messaging at the most efficacious moment in the passage of
    time?

    The Honorable Bubba Pythagoras Darwin

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    She had thoughts of forming the Dumb Ass party until Pelosi told her that >>> would be direct competition to the democrat party and might take votes away >>> from them. She could run as an independent but that would have the same
    negative effect on democrats as the Dumb Ass party.

    Independent. HawHawHaw! Are there any "independents" who don't caucus
    with the Dumbass Dems? It's kinda like "moderates" - who are just
    closet Democrats.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    What prezactly is your purity test, so that you can make an informed decision about who might be a "closet Democrat" when you encounter one? It seems like the "slippage" on issues about having that "correct POV" could be very troubling?

    The Vigilate Pollster

    I don't talk to pollsters, and I don't reveal the metrics of my purity
    tests because it would just give the disingenuous dumbasses the
    information they would need to try deceive me. Also, it's an ongoing
    continuing classified process and you don't have the necessary
    security clearance anyway to enter my SCIF.

    Note: I don't consider anyone to be "pure". I just take what I can
    find, and then ponder it into a conclusion I can live with and act on
    - similar to what I did with all the Follow The Science bullshit.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Aug 17 19:16:08 2022
    On 8/17/2022 7:03 PM, bfh wrote:
    film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 4:53:15 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    You might get your wish. Cheney got her butt whipped, so now she's
    free to concentrate on running for President.

    Do you think she'll run as a Republican or a Democrat - or some
    evolved triangulated affiliation to be revealed with carefully
    considered messaging at the most efficacious moment in the passage of >>>>> time?

    The Honorable Bubba Pythagoras Darwin

    Download Mbps
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    She had thoughts of forming the Dumb Ass party until Pelosi told her
    that
    would be direct competition to the democrat party and might take
    votes away
    from them. She could run as an independent but that would have the same >>>> negative effect on democrats as the Dumb Ass party.

    Independent. HawHawHaw! Are there any "independents" who don't caucus
    with the Dumbass Dems? It's kinda like "moderates" - who are just
    closet Democrats.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    What prezactly is your purity test,  so that you can make an informed
    decision about who might be a "closet Democrat" when you encounter
    one? It seems like the "slippage" on issues about having that "correct
    POV" could be very troubling?

    The Vigilate Pollster

    I don't talk to pollsters, and I don't reveal the metrics of my purity
    tests because it would just give the disingenuous dumbasses the
    information they would need to try deceive me. Also, it's an ongoing continuing classified process and you don't have the necessary security clearance anyway to enter my SCIF.

    Note: I don't consider anyone to be "pure". I just take what I can find,
    and then ponder it into a conclusion I can live with and act on -
    similar to what I did with all the Follow The Science bullshit.


    Just follow the science when it suits you. Kinda like the orange goon
    did with his oath of office.

    116.19
    2.72
    38

    The FBI must be raiding my dishy.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Wed Aug 17 22:39:39 2022
    kmiller wrote:
    On 8/17/2022 7:03 PM, bfh wrote:
    film...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 4:53:15 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    You might get your wish. Cheney got her butt whipped, so now she's >>>>>> free to concentrate on running for President.

    Do you think she'll run as a Republican or a Democrat - or some
    evolved triangulated affiliation to be revealed with carefully
    considered messaging at the most efficacious moment in the
    passage of
    time?

    The Honorable Bubba Pythagoras Darwin

    Download Mbps
    80.88
    Upload Mbps
    8.12
    Ping ms 63


    She had thoughts of forming the Dumb Ass party until Pelosi told
    her that
    would be direct competition to the democrat party and might take
    votes away
    from them. She could run as an independent but that would have
    the same
    negative effect on democrats as the Dumb Ass party.

    Independent. HawHawHaw! Are there any "independents" who don't caucus
    with the Dumbass Dems? It's kinda like "moderates" - who are just
    closet Democrats.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    What prezactly is your purity test,  so that you can make an
    informed decision about who might be a "closet Democrat" when you
    encounter one? It seems like the "slippage" on issues about having
    that "correct POV" could be very troubling?

    The Vigilate Pollster

    I don't talk to pollsters, and I don't reveal the metrics of my
    purity tests because it would just give the disingenuous dumbasses
    the information they would need to try deceive me. Also, it's an
    ongoing continuing classified process and you don't have the
    necessary security clearance anyway to enter my SCIF.

    Note: I don't consider anyone to be "pure". I just take what I can
    find, and then ponder it into a conclusion I can live with and act
    on - similar to what I did with all the Follow The Science bullshit.


    Just follow the science when it suits you.

    Wrong again. I've followed the science since the beginning - but I
    chose from the daily smorgasbord which science to follow. Which
    science did you follow?

    Kinda like the orange goon
    did with his oath of office.

    116.19
    2.72
    38

    The FBI must be raiding my dishy.


    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 22 19:45:43 2022
    Here's a fast one if you're pressed for time and just want to know
    your download speed. If you want to know more than that, and the
    passage of time is literally not significant, you can wait a little
    longer and get more metrics on your table.

    https://fast.com

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat Oct 22 18:20:37 2022
    On 10/22/2022 4:45 PM, bfh wrote:
    Here's a fast one if you're pressed for time and just want to know your download speed. If you want to know more than that, and the passage of
    time is literally not significant, you can wait a little longer and get
    more metrics on your table.

    https://fast.com


    Nice. Thanks.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 6 13:30:43 2024
    Ookla
    Download Mbps
    930.88
    Upload Mbps
    531.88
    Ping ms 11

    Fast.com
    Your Internet speed is
    1.0
    Gbps
    Latency
    Unloaded
    10 ms
    Loaded
    13 ms
    Upload
    Speed
    730 Mbps

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat Jan 6 18:57:52 2024
    On 1/6/2024 10:30 AM, bfh wrote:
    Ookla
     Download Mbps
    930.88
    Upload Mbps
    531.88
    Ping ms 11

    Fast.com
    Your Internet speed is
    1.0
    Gbps
    Latency
    Unloaded
    10 ms
    Loaded
    13 ms
    Upload
    Speed
    730 Mbps


    Ookla
    10.88 - Download Mbps
    1.68 - Upload Mbps
    47ms

    Fast.com
    53 Gbps
    29 Unloaded
    189 Loaded
    7.7 Upload speed Mbps

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