• Re: There is no crisis

    From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Feb 29 16:45:34 2024
    Technobarbarian wrote:


    "?There is no crisis?: Biden will find calm not chaos at Texas border
    visit

    President will visit the well-regulated crossing at Brownsville while
    Trump will make dueling trip to hotspot 300 miles upstream"

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/29/biden-texas-border- migration-brownsville-visit

    Do you have any opinions on any of that? If so, what are they?

    --
    bill
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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Feb 29 14:31:32 2024
    On 2/29/2024 1:45 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:


    "?There is no crisis?: Biden will find calm not chaos at Texas border
    visit

    President will visit the well-regulated crossing at Brownsville while
    Trump will make dueling trip to hotspot 300 miles upstream"

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/29/biden-texas-border-
    migration-brownsville-visit

    Do you have any opinions on any of that? If so, what are they?


    Jail can't come soon enough for the orange goon.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Thu Feb 29 19:12:36 2024
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/29/2024 1:45 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:


    "?There is no crisis?: Biden will find calm not chaos at Texas border
    visit

    President will visit the well-regulated crossing at Brownsville while
    Trump will make dueling trip to hotspot 300 miles upstream"

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/29/biden-texas-border-
    migration-brownsville-visit

    Do you have any opinions on any of that? If so, what are they?


    Jail can't come soon enough for the orange goon.

    Then at the end of the day going forward comma you're going to be
    disappointed for an indeterminate passage of time.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Thu Feb 29 20:29:28 2024
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    In article <2W6EN.443499$c3Ea.153272@fx10.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...

    Technobarbarian wrote:


    "?There is no crisis?: Biden will find calm not chaos at Texas border
    visit

    President will visit the well-regulated crossing at Brownsville while
    Trump will make dueling trip to hotspot 300 miles upstream"

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/29/biden-texas-border-
    migration-brownsville-visit

    Do you have any opinions on any of that? If so, what are they?

    "The U.S. Economy Is Surpassing Expectations. Immigration Is One Reason. Immigrants aided the pandemic recovery and may be crucial to future
    needs. The challenge is processing newcomers and getting them where the
    jobs are."

    "The U.S. economic recovery from the pandemic has been stronger and more durable than many experts had expected, and a rebound in immigration is
    a big reason.

    A resumption in visa processing in 2021 and 2022 jump-started
    employment, allowing foreign-born workers to fill some holes in the
    labor force that persisted across industries and locations after the
    pandemic shutdowns. Immigrants also address a longer-term need:
    replenishing the work force, a key to meeting labor demands as
    birthrates decline and older people retire.

    Net migration in the year that ended July 1, 2023, reached the highest
    level since 2017. The foreign-born now make up 18.6 percent of the labor force, and the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects that
    over the next 10 years, immigration will keep the number of working
    Americans from sinking. Balancing job seekers and opportunities is also critical to moderating wage inflation and keeping prices in check.

    International instability, economic crises, war and natural disasters
    have brought a new surge of arrivals who could help close the still-
    elevated gap between labor demand and job candidates. But that potential economic dividend must contend with the incendiary politics, logistical hurdles and administrative backlogs that the surge has created."
    [snip]

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/29/business/economy/immigrants-
    labor.html

    "Nationwide Caregiver Shortage Felt By Older Adults
    America?s aging population suffers as in-home aides can?t cover the need
    for care"

    https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/basics/info-2022/in-home-caregiver- shortage.html

    Are those your opinions?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Feb 29 18:44:34 2024
    On 2/29/2024 4:12 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 2/29/2024 1:45 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:


    "?There is no crisis?: Biden will find calm not chaos at Texas border
    visit

    President will visit the well-regulated crossing at Brownsville while
    Trump will make dueling trip to hotspot 300 miles upstream"

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/29/biden-texas-border-
    migration-brownsville-visit

    Do you have any opinions on any of that? If so, what are they?


    Jail can't come soon enough for the orange goon.

    Then at the end of the day going forward comma you're going to be disappointed for an indeterminate passage of time.


    In the meanwhile maybe they can weaponize pauperization on the orange
    goon fraudster:

    Trump faces huge losses as he flogs commercial real estate properties in
    the teeth of a brutal market

    https://fortune.com/2024/02/29/donald-trump-property-sales-commercial-real-estate-verdict-fraud/

    HawHawHaw!

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Mar 1 13:55:30 2024
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    In article <YbaEN.445558$c3Ea.113967@fx10.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...

    International instability, economic crises, war and natural disasters
    have brought a new surge of arrivals who could help close the still-
    elevated gap between labor demand and job candidates. But that potential >>> economic dividend must contend with the incendiary politics, logistical
    hurdles and administrative backlogs that the surge has created."
    [snip]

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/29/business/economy/immigrants-
    labor.html

    "Nationwide Caregiver Shortage Felt By Older Adults
    America?s aging population suffers as in-home aides can?t cover the need >>> for care"

    https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/basics/info-2022/in-home-caregiver-
    shortage.html

    Are those your opinions?


    No, those are my facts. My opinion should be obvious from the
    facts, if not from my subject line. For you I'll say it again. There is
    no crisis on our borders. "Crisis is probably the most over worked word
    in the English language. The news media loves it because it keeps people tuned in for the next episode.

    https://tinyurl.com/yc2b2az6

    --------------------------------------------------------
    An about-face

    President Biden has come to recognize that the surge of undocumented immigration during his presidency is a threat to his re-election. He
    knows that most voters are unhappy about the increase. So are mayors
    and governors who have been left to deal with an expensive and often
    chaotic situation — such as in Denver, the subject of a recent Times
    story.
    ...
    -------------------------------------------------------- https://tinyurl.com/2xxcmwuv

    Seems like Biden, most voters, and some mayors and governors disagree
    with your facts. "Course - except for voters - it probably has more to
    do with expense, chaos, and reelection than with what they actually
    believe.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Fri Mar 1 18:34:46 2024
    On 3/1/2024 10:55 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    In article <YbaEN.445558$c3Ea.113967@fx10.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...

    International instability, economic crises, war and natural disasters
    have brought a new surge of arrivals who could help close the still-
    elevated gap between labor demand and job candidates. But that
    potential
    economic dividend must contend with the incendiary politics, logistical >>>> hurdles and administrative backlogs that the surge has created."
    [snip]

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/29/business/economy/immigrants-
    labor.html

    "Nationwide Caregiver Shortage Felt By Older Adults
    America?s aging population suffers as in-home aides can?t cover the
    need
    for care"

    https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/basics/info-2022/in-home-caregiver-
    shortage.html

    Are those your opinions?


          No, those are my facts. My opinion should be obvious from the
    facts, if not from my subject line. For you I'll say it again. There is
    no crisis on our borders. "Crisis is probably the most over worked word
    in the English language. The news media loves it because it keeps people
    tuned in for the next episode.

    https://tinyurl.com/yc2b2az6

    --------------------------------------------------------
    An about-face

    President Biden has come to recognize that the surge of undocumented immigration during his presidency is a threat to his re-election. He
    knows that most voters are unhappy about the increase. So are mayors and governors who have been left to deal with an expensive and often chaotic situation — such as in Denver, the subject of a recent Times story.
    ...
    -------------------------------------------------------- https://tinyurl.com/2xxcmwuv

    Seems like Biden, most voters, and some mayors and governors disagree
    with your facts. "Course - except for voters - it probably has more to
    do with expense, chaos, and reelection than with what they actually
    believe.


    This is what you'd prefer?

    Arizona GOP advances bill legalizing killing undocumented migrants on
    suspicion of trespassing

    https://www.axios.com/2024/02/27/arizona-gop-bill-rancher-migrant-kill

    I suppose you kill them first, then check to see if they're undocumented?

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Fri Mar 1 21:53:28 2024
    kmiller wrote:
    On 3/1/2024 10:55 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    In article <YbaEN.445558$c3Ea.113967@fx10.iad>, redydog@rye.net
    says...

    International instability, economic crises, war and natural
    disasters
    have brought a new surge of arrivals who could help close the still- >>>>> elevated gap between labor demand and job candidates. But that
    potential
    economic dividend must contend with the incendiary politics,
    logistical
    hurdles and administrative backlogs that the surge has created."
    [snip]

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/29/business/economy/immigrants-
    labor.html

    "Nationwide Caregiver Shortage Felt By Older Adults
    America?s aging population suffers as in-home aides can?t cover
    the need
    for care"

    https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/basics/info-2022/in-home-caregiver-
    shortage.html

    Are those your opinions?


          No, those are my facts. My opinion should be obvious >>> from the
    facts, if not from my subject line. For you I'll say it again.
    There is
    no crisis on our borders. "Crisis is probably the most over worked
    word
    in the English language. The news media loves it because it keeps
    people
    tuned in for the next episode.

    https://tinyurl.com/yc2b2az6

    --------------------------------------------------------
    An about-face

    President Biden has come to recognize that the surge of undocumented
    immigration during his presidency is a threat to his re-election. He
    knows that most voters are unhappy about the increase. So are mayors
    and governors who have been left to deal with an expensive and often
    chaotic situation — such as in Denver, the subject of a recent
    Times story.
    ...
    --------------------------------------------------------
    https://tinyurl.com/2xxcmwuv

    Seems like Biden, most voters, and some mayors and governors
    disagree with your facts. "Course - except for voters - it probably
    has more to do with expense, chaos, and reelection than with what
    they actually believe.


    This is what you'd prefer?

    Arizona GOP advances bill legalizing killing undocumented migrants on suspicion of trespassing

    Why would you think that's what I would prefer?

    https://www.axios.com/2024/02/27/arizona-gop-bill-rancher-migrant-kill

    I suppose you kill them first, then check to see if they're undocumented?

    Do you also suppose that I have one of these? https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61EYH3usZJL._AC_SL1000_.jpg

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat Mar 2 08:55:41 2024
    On 3/1/2024 6:53 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 3/1/2024 10:55 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    In article <YbaEN.445558$c3Ea.113967@fx10.iad>, redydog@rye.net says... >>>>
    International instability, economic crises, war and natural disasters >>>>>> have brought a new surge of arrivals who could help close the still- >>>>>> elevated gap between labor demand and job candidates. But that
    potential
    economic dividend must contend with the incendiary politics,
    logistical
    hurdles and administrative backlogs that the surge has created."
    [snip]

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/29/business/economy/immigrants-
    labor.html

    "Nationwide Caregiver Shortage Felt By Older Adults
    America?s aging population suffers as in-home aides can?t cover
    the need
    for care"

    https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/basics/info-2022/in-home-caregiver- >>>>>> shortage.html

    Are those your opinions?


          No, those are my facts. My opinion should be obvious from
    the
    facts, if not from my subject line. For you I'll say it again. There is >>>> no crisis on our borders. "Crisis is probably the most over worked word >>>> in the English language. The news media loves it because it keeps
    people
    tuned in for the next episode.

    https://tinyurl.com/yc2b2az6

    --------------------------------------------------------
    An about-face

    President Biden has come to recognize that the surge of undocumented
    immigration during his presidency is a threat to his re-election. He
    knows that most voters are unhappy about the increase. So are mayors
    and governors who have been left to deal with an expensive and often
    chaotic situation — such as in Denver, the subject of a recent
    Times story.
    ...
    --------------------------------------------------------
    https://tinyurl.com/2xxcmwuv

    Seems like Biden, most voters, and some mayors and governors disagree
    with your facts. "Course - except for voters - it probably has more
    to do with expense, chaos, and reelection than with what they
    actually believe.


    This is what you'd prefer?

    Arizona GOP advances bill legalizing killing undocumented migrants on
    suspicion of trespassing

    Why would you think that's what I would prefer?

    So, yet again you avoid an answer.


    https://www.axios.com/2024/02/27/arizona-gop-bill-rancher-migrant-kill

    I suppose you kill them first, then check to see if they're undocumented?

    Do you also suppose that I have one of these? https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61EYH3usZJL._AC_SL1000_.jpg


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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Sat Mar 2 12:44:36 2024
    kmiller wrote:
    On 3/1/2024 6:53 PM, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 3/1/2024 10:55 AM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    In article <YbaEN.445558$c3Ea.113967@fx10.iad>, redydog@rye.net
    says...

    International instability, economic crises, war and natural
    disasters
    have brought a new surge of arrivals who could help close the
    still-
    elevated gap between labor demand and job candidates. But that
    potential
    economic dividend must contend with the incendiary politics,
    logistical
    hurdles and administrative backlogs that the surge has created." >>>>>>> [snip]

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/29/business/economy/immigrants-
    labor.html

    "Nationwide Caregiver Shortage Felt By Older Adults
    America?s aging population suffers as in-home aides can?t cover >>>>>>> the need
    for care"

    https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/basics/info-2022/in-home-caregiver- >>>>>>>
    shortage.html

    Are those your opinions?


          No, those are my facts. My opinion should be
    obvious from the
    facts, if not from my subject line. For you I'll say it again.
    There is
    no crisis on our borders. "Crisis is probably the most over
    worked word
    in the English language. The news media loves it because it keeps
    people
    tuned in for the next episode.

    https://tinyurl.com/yc2b2az6

    --------------------------------------------------------
    An about-face

    President Biden has come to recognize that the surge of
    undocumented immigration during his presidency is a threat to his
    re-election. He knows that most voters are unhappy about the
    increase. So are mayors and governors who have been left to deal
    with an expensive and often chaotic situation — such as in
    Denver, the subject of a recent Times story.
    ...
    --------------------------------------------------------
    https://tinyurl.com/2xxcmwuv

    Seems like Biden, most voters, and some mayors and governors
    disagree with your facts. "Course - except for voters - it
    probably has more to do with expense, chaos, and reelection than
    with what they actually believe.


    This is what you'd prefer?

    Arizona GOP advances bill legalizing killing undocumented migrants
    on suspicion of trespassing

    Why would you think that's what I would prefer?

    So, yet again you avoid an answer.


    https://www.axios.com/2024/02/27/arizona-gop-bill-rancher-migrant-kill

    I suppose you kill them first, then check to see if they're
    undocumented?

    Do you also suppose that I have one of these?
    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61EYH3usZJL._AC_SL1000_.jpg

    So, yet again you avoid an answer.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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