"Suzanne Leta
@LetaSuzanne
Last night, we took the kids to the
@pdxwlf in downtown and it was just incredible. Thousands of families
and friends all having such a great time! I?d love to see more of these
free, fun, family friendly events that bring people back downtown."
https://twitter.com/LetaSuzanne/status/1754182047382573130? ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
"Portland Winter Light Festival packs downtown with flames, lights and illuminated fans (photos)"
Though most installations are downtown near Pioneer Courthouse Square
and the World Trade Center buildings, dozens of other locations across
the city have installments. They can be found in someone?s front yard, traffic intersections, food cart pods, the Portland International
Airport and even a goat farm.
Event organizers expect around 200,000 people to partake in the
festival.
https://www.oregonlive.com/living/2024/02/portland-winter-light- festival-packs-downtown-with-flames-lights-and-illuminated-fans-
photos.html
"In 2023, PDXWLF welcomed nearly 208,000 visitors and generated an
estimated economic impact of $4.4 million. This year, PDXWLF is
projecting a $5.5 million impact.
?People are coming back to Portland. They?re having great experiences. They?re telling people that things have really improved here in the city
of Portland. The Portland Winter Lights Festival will bring even more
people to Portland to see the great progress that we?ve made,? Mayor Ted Wheeler said"
https://www.kptv.com/2024/02/02/portland-winter-lights-festival-kicks- off-with-under-sea-inspired-art-installations/
In article <WPQvN.199167$yEgf.55221@fx09.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
Technobarbarian wrote:
"Suzanne Leta
@LetaSuzanne
Last night, we took the kids to the
@pdxwlf in downtown and it was just incredible. Thousands of families
and friends all having such a great time! I?d love to see more of these
free, fun, family friendly events that bring people back downtown."
https://twitter.com/LetaSuzanne/status/1754182047382573130?
ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
"Portland Winter Light Festival packs downtown with flames, lights and
illuminated fans (photos)"
Though most installations are downtown near Pioneer Courthouse Square
and the World Trade Center buildings, dozens of other locations across
the city have installments. They can be found in someone?s front yard,
traffic intersections, food cart pods, the Portland International
Airport and even a goat farm.
Event organizers expect around 200,000 people to partake in the
festival.
https://www.oregonlive.com/living/2024/02/portland-winter-light-
festival-packs-downtown-with-flames-lights-and-illuminated-fans-
photos.html
"In 2023, PDXWLF welcomed nearly 208,000 visitors and generated an
estimated economic impact of $4.4 million. This year, PDXWLF is
projecting a $5.5 million impact.
?People are coming back to Portland. They?re having great experiences.
They?re telling people that things have really improved here in the city >>> of Portland. The Portland Winter Lights Festival will bring even more
people to Portland to see the great progress that we?ve made,? Mayor Ted >>> Wheeler said"
https://www.kptv.com/2024/02/02/portland-winter-lights-festival-kicks-
off-with-under-sea-inspired-art-installations/
Well then, that's good news. They can undeclare the 90-day state of
emergency and not spend all those millions of dollars on a crisis that
doesn't exist.
lqtm, how pleasantly optimistic--or something. I think our governor
and her troops are just getting started. Millions? How quaint.
I guess
you didn't understand what I said about property values. At this point
the legislature has committed $1.5 Billion to these problems. I think
that everyone understands that this is just a small down payment.
They're waiting for our experts to tell them how much money they have to spend before we start getting to bigger numbers.
I wasn't kidding when I said everyone expects to retire rich here
when they sell their home and "downsize". Between the whole gang
invested in Portland, we're talking serious money. I don't think there
are a lot of people who care about addicts dying. It's not even a big
number when compared to other stupid ways of dying. They do care about
their personal funds--Big Time.
This is also BTW the heart of the homeless problem. If we allow
people to build a lot of cheap houses, it reduces the value of existing housing and you end up with a lot of poor people stinking up the place.
The politicians have to find a cheap way to put people in beds without reducing property values. The problem is so simple that I'm sure any
internet genius can solve it.
In article <2dTvN.300519$7sbb.50133@fx16.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <WPQvN.199167$yEgf.55221@fx09.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
Technobarbarian wrote:
"Suzanne Leta
@LetaSuzanne
Last night, we took the kids to the
@pdxwlf in downtown and it was just incredible. Thousands of families >>>>> and friends all having such a great time! I?d love to see more of these >>>>> free, fun, family friendly events that bring people back downtown."
https://twitter.com/LetaSuzanne/status/1754182047382573130?
ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
"Portland Winter Light Festival packs downtown with flames, lights and >>>>> illuminated fans (photos)"
Though most installations are downtown near Pioneer Courthouse Square >>>>> and the World Trade Center buildings, dozens of other locations across >>>>> the city have installments. They can be found in someone?s front yard, >>>>> traffic intersections, food cart pods, the Portland International
Airport and even a goat farm.
Event organizers expect around 200,000 people to partake in the
festival.
https://www.oregonlive.com/living/2024/02/portland-winter-light-
festival-packs-downtown-with-flames-lights-and-illuminated-fans-
photos.html
"In 2023, PDXWLF welcomed nearly 208,000 visitors and generated an
estimated economic impact of $4.4 million. This year, PDXWLF is
projecting a $5.5 million impact.
?People are coming back to Portland. They?re having great experiences. >>>>> They?re telling people that things have really improved here in the city >>>>> of Portland. The Portland Winter Lights Festival will bring even more >>>>> people to Portland to see the great progress that we?ve made,? Mayor Ted >>>>> Wheeler said"
https://www.kptv.com/2024/02/02/portland-winter-lights-festival-kicks- >>>>> off-with-under-sea-inspired-art-installations/
Well then, that's good news. They can undeclare the 90-day state of
emergency and not spend all those millions of dollars on a crisis that >>>> doesn't exist.
I'm sorry, but if you want to troll me you will have to make it
more interesting than that. As I have often mentioned: "I am not going
to play word games with you." I know you enjoy them. I don't.
TB
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <2dTvN.300519$7sbb.50133@fx16.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...HawHawHaw! It was a straight forward simple question.
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <WPQvN.199167$yEgf.55221@fx09.iad>, redydog@rye.net says... >>>>>
Technobarbarian wrote:
"Suzanne Leta
@LetaSuzanne
Last night, we took the kids to the
@pdxwlf in downtown and it was just incredible. Thousands of families >>>>>> and friends all having such a great time! I?d love to see more of
these
free, fun, family friendly events that bring people back downtown." >>>>>>
https://twitter.com/LetaSuzanne/status/1754182047382573130?
ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
"Portland Winter Light Festival packs downtown with flames, lights >>>>>> and
illuminated fans (photos)"
Though most installations are downtown near Pioneer Courthouse Square >>>>>> and the World Trade Center buildings, dozens of other locations
across
the city have installments. They can be found in someone?s front
yard,
traffic intersections, food cart pods, the Portland International
Airport and even a goat farm.
Event organizers expect around 200,000 people to partake in the
festival.
https://www.oregonlive.com/living/2024/02/portland-winter-light-
festival-packs-downtown-with-flames-lights-and-illuminated-fans-
photos.html
"In 2023, PDXWLF welcomed nearly 208,000 visitors and generated an >>>>>> estimated economic impact of $4.4 million. This year, PDXWLF is
projecting a $5.5 million impact.
?People are coming back to Portland. They?re having great
experiences.
They?re telling people that things have really improved here in
the city
of Portland. The Portland Winter Lights Festival will bring even more >>>>>> people to Portland to see the great progress that we?ve made,?
Mayor Ted
Wheeler said"
https://www.kptv.com/2024/02/02/portland-winter-lights-festival-kicks- >>>>>> off-with-under-sea-inspired-art-installations/
Well then, that's good news. They can undeclare the 90-day state of
emergency and not spend all those millions of dollars on a crisis that >>>>> doesn't exist.
I'm sorry, but if you want to troll me you will have to make it >> more interesting than that. As I have often mentioned: "I am not going
to play word games with you." I know you enjoy them. I don't.
TB
And for you to say you don't enjoy word games is hilarious. Who do you
think actually believes that?
In article <K8WvN.300527$7sbb.26955@fx16.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
HawHawHaw! It was a straight forward simple question.
I'm sorry, but if you want to troll me you will have to make it
more interesting than that. As I have often mentioned: "I am not going
to play word games with you." I know you enjoy them. I don't.
TB
And for you to say you don't enjoy word games is hilarious. Who do you
think actually believes that?
--
bill
I suggest that you read my first sentence again. Slowly, so there's some chance you might comprehend what the words mean. To help you I'm
going to say it the way my biggest fan would say it. "yawn"
TB
In article <K8WvN.300527$7sbb.26955@fx16.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
HawHawHaw! It was a straight forward simple question.
I'm sorry, but if you want to troll me you will have to make it
more interesting than that. As I have often mentioned: "I am not going
to play word games with you." I know you enjoy them. I don't.
TB
And for you to say you don't enjoy word games is hilarious. Who do you
think actually believes that?
--
bill
I suggest that you read my first sentence again. Slowly, so there's some chance you might comprehend what the words mean. To help you I'm
going to say it the way my biggest fan would say it. "yawn"
In article <kZuwN.402601$p%Mb.286599@fx15.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <K8WvN.300527$7sbb.26955@fx16.iad>, redydog@rye.net says... >>>>>
I'm sorry, but if you want to troll me you will have to make it >>>>> more interesting than that. As I have often mentioned: "I am not going >>>>> to play word games with you." I know you enjoy them. I don't.HawHawHaw! It was a straight forward simple question.
TB
And for you to say you don't enjoy word games is hilarious. Who do you >>>> think actually believes that?
--
bill
I suggest that you read my first sentence again. Slowly, so there's >>> some chance you might comprehend what the words mean. To help you I'm
going to say it the way my biggest fan would say it. "yawn"
Seems that any question to you is seen as a troll.
Yeah, it pretty much reads that way to me too--along with over 90%
of the rest of the posts. Just about all you and your dark shadow do is troll. Somewhere around here there's an anal probe with your
fingerprints on it that proves my point.
I still can't believe anyone thought that troll was subtle. The
only way you could have been less subtle is if you found a way to make
your post with a sledgehammer, instead of a keyboard. It was so obvious
that I seriously thought that you knew I was kidding along. OTOH with
you lol leading me down the garden path I was prepared to go much
deeper.
A hint for future use: The guys who make anal trolls are all
sensitive about their own anus. Most of the time it's easy to make them regret this troll.
TB
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <K8WvN.300527$7sbb.26955@fx16.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
HawHawHaw! It was a straight forward simple question.
I'm sorry, but if you want to troll me you will have to make it
more interesting than that. As I have often mentioned: "I am not going >>>> to play word games with you." I know you enjoy them. I don't.
TB
And for you to say you don't enjoy word games is hilarious. Who do you
think actually believes that?
--
bill
I suggest that you read my first sentence again. Slowly, so there's
some chance you might comprehend what the words mean. To help you I'm
going to say it the way my biggest fan would say it. "yawn"
Seems that any question to you is seen as a troll.
In article <kZuwN.402601$p%Mb.286599@fx15.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <K8WvN.300527$7sbb.26955@fx16.iad>, redydog@rye.net says... >>>>>
I'm sorry, but if you want to troll me you will have to make it >>>>> more interesting than that. As I have often mentioned: "I am not going >>>>> to play word games with you." I know you enjoy them. I don't.HawHawHaw! It was a straight forward simple question.
TB
And for you to say you don't enjoy word games is hilarious. Who do you >>>> think actually believes that?
--
bill
I suggest that you read my first sentence again. Slowly, so there's >>> some chance you might comprehend what the words mean. To help you I'm
going to say it the way my biggest fan would say it. "yawn"
Seems that any question to you is seen as a troll.
Yeah, it pretty much reads that way to me too--along with over 90%
of the rest of the posts. Just about all you and your dark shadow
troll. Somewhere around here there's an anal probe with your
fingerprints on it that proves my point.
I still can't believe anyone thought that troll was subtle. The
only way you could have been less subtle is if you found a way to make
your post with a sledgehammer, instead of a keyboard. It was so obvious
that I seriously thought that you knew I was kidding along. OTOH with
you lol leading me down the garden path I was prepared to go much
deeper.
A hint for future use: The guys who make anal trolls are all
sensitive about their own anus. Most of the time it's easy to make them regret this troll.
TB
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <kZuwN.402601$p%Mb.286599@fx15.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <K8WvN.300527$7sbb.26955@fx16.iad>, redydog@rye.net says... >>>>>>
I'm sorry, but if you want to troll me you will have to >>>>>> make itHawHawHaw! It was a straight forward simple question.
more interesting than that. As I have often mentioned: "I am not
going
to play word games with you." I know you enjoy them. I don't.
TB
And for you to say you don't enjoy word games is hilarious. Who do you >>>>> think actually believes that?
--
bill
I suggest that you read my first sentence again. Slowly, so >>>> there's
some chance you might comprehend what the words mean. To help you I'm
going to say it the way my biggest fan would say it. "yawn"
Seems that any question to you is seen as a troll.
Yeah, it pretty much reads that way to me too--along with over 90%
of the rest of the posts. Just about all you and your dark shadow do is
troll. Somewhere around here there's an anal probe with your
fingerprints on it that proves my point.
I still can't believe anyone thought that troll was subtle. The >> only way you could have been less subtle is if you found a way to make
your post with a sledgehammer, instead of a keyboard. It was so obvious
that I seriously thought that you knew I was kidding along. OTOH with
you lol leading me down the garden path I was prepared to go much
deeper.
A hint for future use: The guys who make anal trolls are all
sensitive about their own anus. Most of the time it's easy to make them
regret this troll.
TB
I'd still like to know if you think there's a fentanyl crisis in
Portland that justifies a 90-day state of emergency.
In article <XhxwN.402678$p%Mb.118589@fx15.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <kZuwN.402601$p%Mb.286599@fx15.iad>, redydog@rye.net says... >>>>
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <K8WvN.300527$7sbb.26955@fx16.iad>, redydog@rye.net says... >>>>>>>
I'm sorry, but if you want to troll me you will have to make itHawHawHaw! It was a straight forward simple question.
more interesting than that. As I have often mentioned: "I am not going >>>>>>> to play word games with you." I know you enjoy them. I don't.
TB
And for you to say you don't enjoy word games is hilarious. Who do you >>>>>> think actually believes that?
--
bill
I suggest that you read my first sentence again. Slowly, so there's
some chance you might comprehend what the words mean. To help you I'm >>>>> going to say it the way my biggest fan would say it. "yawn"
Seems that any question to you is seen as a troll.
Yeah, it pretty much reads that way to me too--along with over 90% >>> of the rest of the posts. Just about all you and your dark shadow do is
troll. Somewhere around here there's an anal probe with your
fingerprints on it that proves my point.
I still can't believe anyone thought that troll was subtle. The
only way you could have been less subtle is if you found a way to make
your post with a sledgehammer, instead of a keyboard. It was so obvious
that I seriously thought that you knew I was kidding along. OTOH with
you lol leading me down the garden path I was prepared to go much
deeper.
A hint for future use: The guys who make anal trolls are all
sensitive about their own anus. Most of the time it's easy to make them
regret this troll.
TB
I'd still like to know if you think there's a fentanyl crisis in
Portland that justifies a 90-day state of emergency.
Hey, how about that? We're finally down to a sort of half way
almost straight queston. Here's the thing. I need to tell you my basic disclosure, again. I ain't beem downtown since last Summer. There's just nothing I need there. SO, most of what I know is what I see on the boob-
tube amd read on the internet. The answer to your question would be blindingly obvious if you had paid attention to what I have telling you.
Both Fakes News and the Light show are.......,hmmm.......... I think the
best word is probably propaganda. They are not exactly lies, but they
are far from a realistic picture. Basically the junkies and the
alcoholics just move to one side, sort of like the tide. Everyone just ignores them from a habit that began before any of us were born. Several
of our missions have been downtown since any of us were born. At you
might guess that both helps esplain the problem downtown and why the
nnatives are used to it. It's the crazies that you really have to watch
out for. They are all "unsightly" and having a netative effect on
property values.
Any dweeb that knows *anything* about politics knows the governor _needs_ to put on her show.
I have already talked about justifications and how the fentanyl "crisis" campares to the many other stupid ways people find to die. None
of that matters. Everyone is expecting a good show. Win, lose, or draw,
I expect we will get our money's worth because it will be a good show.
If nothing else I expect our politicians will know a little bit more
about the problem when she's done.
This is nuthin'. During my lifetime and when I was old enough to understand it, Portland elected another known corrupt mayor, because corruption was considered good for business. Seriously, I don't need to
make this stuff up.
TB
On 2/6/2024 7:17 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <XhxwN.402678$p%Mb.118589@fx15.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <kZuwN.402601$p%Mb.286599@fx15.iad>, redydog@rye.net
says...
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <K8WvN.300527$7sbb.26955@fx16.iad>, redydog@rye.net
says...
HawHawHaw! It was a straight forward simple question.
I'm sorry, but if you want to troll me you will have >>>>>>>> to make it
more interesting than that. As I have often mentioned: "I am
not going
to play word games with you." I know you enjoy them. I don't.
TB
And for you to say you don't enjoy word games is hilarious. Who >>>>>>> do you
think actually believes that?
--
bill
I suggest that you read my first sentence again. Slowly, >>>>>> so there's
some chance you might comprehend what the words mean. To help
you I'm
going to say it the way my biggest fan would say it. "yawn"
Seems that any question to you is seen as a troll.
Yeah, it pretty much reads that way to me too--along with >>>> over 90%
of the rest of the posts. Just about all you and your dark shadow
do is
troll. Somewhere around here there's an anal probe with your
fingerprints on it that proves my point.
I still can't believe anyone thought that troll was subtle. >>>> The
only way you could have been less subtle is if you found a way to
make
your post with a sledgehammer, instead of a keyboard. It was so
obvious
that I seriously thought that you knew I was kidding along. OTOH with
you lol leading me down the garden path I was prepared to go much
deeper.
A hint for future use: The guys who make anal trolls are all >>>> sensitive about their own anus. Most of the time it's easy to make
them
regret this troll.
TB
I'd still like to know if you think there's a fentanyl crisis in
Portland that justifies a 90-day state of emergency.
Hey, how about that? We're finally down to a sort of half way >> almost straight queston. Here's the thing. I need to tell you my basic
disclosure, again. I ain't beem downtown since last Summer. There's
just
nothing I need there. SO, most of what I know is what I see on the
boob-
tube amd read on the internet. The answer to your question would be
blindingly obvious if you had paid attention to what I have telling
you.
Both Fakes News and the Light show are.......,hmmm.......... I think
the
best word is probably propaganda. They are not exactly lies, but they
are far from a realistic picture. Basically the junkies and the
alcoholics just move to one side, sort of like the tide. Everyone just
ignores them from a habit that began before any of us were born.
Several
of our missions have been downtown since any of us were born. At you
might guess that both helps esplain the problem downtown and why the
nnatives are used to it. It's the crazies that you really have to watch
out for. They are all "unsightly" and having a netative effect on
property values.
Any dweeb that knows *anything* about politics knows the
governor
_needs_ to put on her show.
I have already talked about justifications and how the fentanyl
"crisis" campares to the many other stupid ways people find to die.
None
of that matters. Everyone is expecting a good show. Win, lose, or draw,
I expect we will get our money's worth because it will be a good show.
If nothing else I expect our politicians will know a little bit more
about the problem when she's done.
This is nuthin'. During my lifetime and when I was old enough to
understand it, Portland elected another known corrupt mayor, because
corruption was considered good for business. Seriously, I don't need to
make this stuff up.
TB
Instead of all the pomposity, why not just answer yes or no? We all
know you like to show your ass with your attempts at wowing us with
your brilliance. Well let me tell you, it's not working. In my,
according to you, simple mind, I can recognize a question that only
requires a yes or no answer and not a dissertation. You blow more
smoke than a volcanic eruption.
In article <oEBwN.306714$7sbb.99801@fx16.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
Hey. Look on the bright side - that was his short version.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
As I expected. The troll just leads to another flame.
TB
In article <upuo32$14pjn$1@dont-email.me>, ganthony@gmail.net says...
Instead of all the pomposity, why not just answer yes or no? We all know
you like to show your ass with your attempts at wowing us with your
brilliance. Well let me tell you, it's not working. In my, according to
you, simple mind, I can recognize a question that only requires a yes or
no answer and not a dissertation. You blow more smoke than a volcanic
eruption.
One of the many probelms with your trolls is that you assume everything is strictly black and white with simple yes or no answers.
The situation and my opinion isn't nearly that simple, even if you are.
TB
On 2/7/2024 1:58 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <upuo32$14pjn$1@dont-email.me>, ganthony@gmail.net says...
Instead of all the pomposity, why not just answer yes or no? We all know >>> you like to show your ass with your attempts at wowing us with your
brilliance. Well let me tell you, it's not working. In my, according to >>> you, simple mind, I can recognize a question that only requires a yes or >>> no answer and not a dissertation. You blow more smoke than a volcanic
eruption.
One of the many probelms with your trolls is that you assume
everything is strictly black and white with simple yes or no answers.
The situation and my opinion isn't nearly that simple, even if you are.
TB
More words than yes or no confuse poor old JohnGeorge. All them sewer
fumes damaged his ability to parse whole sentences.
On 2/7/2024 8:37 PM, kmiller wrote:
On 2/7/2024 1:58 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <upuo32$14pjn$1@dont-email.me>, ganthony@gmail.net says...
Instead of all the pomposity, why not just answer yes or no? We
all know
you like to show your ass with your attempts at wowing us with your
brilliance. Well let me tell you, it's not working. In my,
according to
you, simple mind, I can recognize a question that only requires a
yes or
no answer and not a dissertation. You blow more smoke than a volcanic
eruption.
      One of the many probelms with your trolls is that you
assume
everything is strictly black and white with simple yes or no answers.
The situation and my opinion isn't nearly that simple, even if you
are.
TB
More words than yes or no confuse poor old JohnGeorge. All them
sewer fumes damaged his ability to parse whole sentences.
Most of your posts are senseless but I have no idea to whom you are referring or what sewer fumes have to do with anything. Maybe you got
a good whiff and that's what has addled your pea brain.
George Anthony wrote:
On 2/7/2024 8:37 PM, kmiller wrote:
On 2/7/2024 1:58 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <upuo32$14pjn$1@dont-email.me>, ganthony@gmail.net says... >>>>>
Instead of all the pomposity, why not just answer yes or no? We all
know
you like to show your ass with your attempts at wowing us with your
brilliance. Well let me tell you, it's not working. In my,
according to
you, simple mind, I can recognize a question that only requires a
yes or
no answer and not a dissertation. You blow more smoke than a volcanic >>>>> eruption.
      One of the many probelms with your trolls is that you
assume
everything is strictly black and white with simple yes or no answers.
The situation and my opinion isn't nearly that simple, even if you are. >>>>
TB
More words than yes or no confuse poor old JohnGeorge. All them sewer
fumes damaged his ability to parse whole sentences.
Most of your posts are senseless but I have no idea to whom you are
referring or what sewer fumes have to do with anything. Maybe you got
a good whiff and that's what has addled your pea brain.
Speaking of sewer fumes, how's this for a name for a sewage treatment
plant? https://www.google.com/maps/@32.1769317,-83.1812334,3a,23.1y,108.44h,87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skNvC37f7VHayCyYK5ywFlQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&entry=ttu
Every time I drive by it going to or from Walmart, I get one of those TB lqtm's.
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