"Nearly 17,000 people may have died after taking hydroxycholoroquine
during the first wave of COVID, according to a study by French
researchers.
The anti-malaria drug was prescribed to some patients hospitalized with COVID-19 during the first wave of the pandemic, "despite the absence of evidence documenting its clinical benefits," the researchers point out
in their paper, published in the February issue of Biomedicine & Pharmacotherapy.
Now, researchers have estimated that some 16,990 people in six countries
? France, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Turkey and the U.S. ? may have died as
a result."
"In fact, they say the figure may be far higher given the study only
concerns six countries from March to July 2020, when the drug was
prescribed much more widely.
Hydroxychloroquine gained prominence partly due to French virologist
Didier Raoult who had headed the Méditerranée Infection Foundation hospital, but was later removed amid growing controversy.
It was also considered something of a ?miracle cure? by the then-U.S. President Donald Trump, who said: ?What do you have to lose? Take it.?"
https://www.politico.eu/article/hydroxychloroquine-could-have-caused- 17000-deaths-during-covid-study-finds/
TB
On 1/4/2024 3:37 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
"Nearly 17,000 people may have died after taking hydroxycholoroquine
during the first wave of COVID, according to a study by French
researchers.
The anti-malaria drug was prescribed to some patients hospitalized with
COVID-19 during the first wave of the pandemic, "despite the absence of
evidence documenting its clinical benefits," the researchers point out
in their paper, published in the February issue of Biomedicine &
Pharmacotherapy.
Now, researchers have estimated that some 16,990 people in six countries
? France, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Turkey and the U.S. ? may have died as
a result."
"In fact, they say the figure may be far higher given the study only
concerns six countries from March to July 2020, when the drug was
prescribed much more widely.
Hydroxychloroquine gained prominence partly due to French virologist
Didier Raoult who had headed the Méditerranée Infection Foundation
hospital, but was later removed amid growing controversy.
It was also considered something of a ?miracle cure? by the then-U.S.
President Donald Trump, who said: ?What do you have to lose? Take it.?"
https://www.politico.eu/article/hydroxychloroquine-could-have-caused-
17000-deaths-during-covid-study-finds/
TB
I have no data to back me up but these French "researchers" themselves
admit it was during the first wave. Of course we all know the first wave
hit before few, if anyone was aware of what was occurring and what it
was (except Fauci). Given that, it's likely that in many of those cases
the inflicted were already too far gone to recover.
On another note, just who are these French researchers? What are their
names and what are their backgrounds? Saying French researchers is like saying "some say". Also note in the link the weasel words "could have caused". Well, heart disease, cancer, etc. also "could have caused".
In article <un7bad$3q9ur$3@dont-email.me>, ganthony@gmail.org says...
On 1/4/2024 3:37 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
"Nearly 17,000 people may have died after taking hydroxycholoroquine
during the first wave of COVID, according to a study by French
researchers.
The anti-malaria drug was prescribed to some patients hospitalized with
COVID-19 during the first wave of the pandemic, "despite the absence of
evidence documenting its clinical benefits," the researchers point out
in their paper, published in the February issue of Biomedicine &
Pharmacotherapy.
Now, researchers have estimated that some 16,990 people in six countries >>> ? France, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Turkey and the U.S. ? may have died as
a result."
"In fact, they say the figure may be far higher given the study only
concerns six countries from March to July 2020, when the drug was
prescribed much more widely.
Hydroxychloroquine gained prominence partly due to French virologist
Didier Raoult who had headed the Méditerranée Infection Foundation
hospital, but was later removed amid growing controversy.
It was also considered something of a ?miracle cure? by the then-U.S.
President Donald Trump, who said: ?What do you have to lose? Take it.?"
https://www.politico.eu/article/hydroxychloroquine-could-have-caused-
17000-deaths-during-covid-study-finds/
TB
I have no data to back me up but these French "researchers" themselves
admit it was during the first wave. Of course we all know the first wave
hit before few, if anyone was aware of what was occurring and what it
was (except Fauci). Given that, it's likely that in many of those cases
the inflicted were already too far gone to recover.
On another note, just who are these French researchers? What are their
names and what are their backgrounds? Saying French researchers is like
saying "some say". Also note in the link the weasel words "could have
caused". Well, heart disease, cancer, etc. also "could have caused".
LOL, Like you really care about any of this. It wouldn't matter to
you if one of them was Louis Pasteur. You just enjoy seeing yourself
singing and dancing around. If you really gave a damn you could look
this stuff up for yourself. All you really care about is shucking and
jiving.
No matter how you slice and dice it, your fat assed hero was
telling idiots to eat that shit, because he was hoping for a miracle. It looks like both that asshole and you might have been smart enough that
you didn't eat any. BTW, whatever happened to that miracle?
"Jan. 3, 2024"
"Covid Has Resurged, but Scientists See a Diminished Threat
Hospitalizations have ticked upward, and there are at least 1,200 Covid- related deaths each week. Americans should mask more often, and
vaccination rates remain too low, experts say."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/03/health/covid-masks-vaccinations.html
LOL, and the best I can hope for is yet more shuckin' and jivin', without any real substance.
TB
"In other words, our results might be overestimated by a factor 5 (i.e.
the actual number of deaths related to HCQ would be ≈3000 deaths) or underestimated by a factor 2 (i.e. the actual number of deaths related
to HCQ would be ≈30000 deaths). Thus, the effect of HCQ on mortality was the main source of uncertainty for the proposed estimates."
In article <unjpr5$228r9$1@dont-email.me>, wolverine01@charter.netYou're a moron. Answer your own question.
says...
On 1/4/2024 6:17 PM, sticks wrote:
--snip--
"In other words, our results might be overestimated by a factor 5 (i.e.
the actual number of deaths related to HCQ would be ?3000 deaths) or
underestimated by a factor 2 (i.e. the actual number of deaths related
to HCQ would be ?30000 deaths). Thus, the effect of HCQ on mortality was >>> the main source of uncertainty for the proposed estimates."
RFK Jr. on HCQ and Ivermectin. There used to be libs who wanted truth.
Very few anymore. Now they all just act like sheep.
<https://rumble.com/v45ym9w-rfk-jr.-unloads-the-truth-about-ivermectin-to-the-hill-it-was-really-a-mira.html>
So? Riddle me this Batman: Have any of you morons ever been brave enough to swallow even a drop of this shite? Are you now, or have you
ever eaten this miracle cure as a way to guard against Covid? Inquiring
minds would like to know about your actual experience with this miracle
cure? lqtm
TB
In article <unjpr5$228r9$1@dont-email.me>, wolverine01@charter.net
says...
On 1/4/2024 6:17 PM, sticks wrote:
--snip--
"In other words, our results might be overestimated by a factor 5 (i.e.
the actual number of deaths related to HCQ would be ?3000 deaths) or
underestimated by a factor 2 (i.e. the actual number of deaths related
to HCQ would be ?30000 deaths). Thus, the effect of HCQ on mortality was >>> the main source of uncertainty for the proposed estimates."
RFK Jr. on HCQ and Ivermectin. There used to be libs who wanted truth.
Very few anymore. Now they all just act like sheep.
<https://rumble.com/v45ym9w-rfk-jr.-unloads-the-truth-about-ivermectin-to-the-hill-it-was-really-a-mira.html>
So? Riddle me this Batman: Have any of you morons ever been brave enough to swallow even a drop of this shite? Are you now, or have you
ever eaten this miracle cure as a way to guard against Covid? Inquiring
minds would like to know about your actual experience with this miracle
cure? lqtm
TB
In article <unjpr5$228r9$1@dont-email.me>, wolverine01@charter.net
says...
On 1/4/2024 6:17 PM, sticks wrote:
--snip--
"In other words, our results might be overestimated by a factor 5 (i.e.
the actual number of deaths related to HCQ would be ?3000 deaths) or
underestimated by a factor 2 (i.e. the actual number of deaths related
to HCQ would be ?30000 deaths). Thus, the effect of HCQ on mortality was >>> the main source of uncertainty for the proposed estimates."
RFK Jr. on HCQ and Ivermectin. There used to be libs who wanted truth.
Very few anymore. Now they all just act like sheep.
<https://rumble.com/v45ym9w-rfk-jr.-unloads-the-truth-about-ivermectin-to-the-hill-it-was-really-a-mira.html>
So? Riddle me this Batman: Have any of you morons ever been brave enough to swallow even a drop of this shite? Are you now, or have you
ever eaten this miracle cure as a way to guard against Covid? Inquiring
minds would like to know about your actual experience with this miracle
cure? lqtm
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <unjpr5$228r9$1@dont-email.me>, wolverine01@charter.net
says...
On 1/4/2024 6:17 PM, sticks wrote:
--snip--
"In other words, our results might be overestimated by a factor 5 (i.e. >>>> the actual number of deaths related to HCQ would be ?3000 deaths) or
underestimated by a factor 2 (i.e. the actual number of deaths related >>>> to HCQ would be ?30000 deaths). Thus, the effect of HCQ on mortality
was
the main source of uncertainty for the proposed estimates."
RFK Jr. on HCQ and Ivermectin. There used to be libs who wanted truth. >>> Very few anymore. Now they all just act like sheep.
<https://rumble.com/v45ym9w-rfk-jr.-unloads-the-truth-about-ivermectin-to-the-hill-it-was-really-a-mira.html>
So? Riddle me this Batman: Have any of you morons ever been brave >> enough to swallow even a drop of this shite? Are you now, or have you
ever eaten this miracle cure as a way to guard against Covid? Inquiring
minds would like to know about your actual experience with this miracle
cure? lqtm
So look, I have not swallowed even a drop of it, but I did, like, a
thought experiment
about, you know, swallowing it............and it
worked - I literally have not gotten Covid in the passage of time since
then.
Note: My voluntary answering of your question is not a self-admission of being one of any of the alleged morons you refer to.
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <unjpr5$228r9$1@dont-email.me>, wolverine01@charter.net
says...
On 1/4/2024 6:17 PM, sticks wrote:
--snip--
"In other words, our results might be overestimated by a factor 5 (i.e. >>>> the actual number of deaths related to HCQ would be ?3000 deaths) or
underestimated by a factor 2 (i.e. the actual number of deaths related >>>> to HCQ would be ?30000 deaths). Thus, the effect of HCQ on mortality
was
the main source of uncertainty for the proposed estimates."
RFK Jr. on HCQ and Ivermectin. There used to be libs who wanted truth. >>> Very few anymore. Now they all just act like sheep.
<https://rumble.com/v45ym9w-rfk-jr.-unloads-the-truth-about-ivermectin-to-the-hill-it-was-really-a-mira.html>
So? Riddle me this Batman: Have any of you morons ever been brave >> enough to swallow even a drop of this shite? Are you now, or have you
ever eaten this miracle cure as a way to guard against Covid? Inquiring
minds would like to know about your actual experience with this miracle
cure? lqtm
So look, I have not swallowed even a drop of it, but I did, like, a
thought experiment about, you know, swallowing it............and it
worked - I literally have not gotten Covid in the passage of time since
then.
Note: My voluntary answering of your question is not a self-admission of being one of any of the alleged morons you refer to.
In article <unklcj$26idb$1@dont-email.me>, ganthony@gmail.org says...First, I was just pointing out your own moronism, which has nothing to
On 1/9/2024 2:27 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <unjpr5$228r9$1@dont-email.me>, wolverine01@charter.netYou're a moron. Answer your own question.
says...
On 1/4/2024 6:17 PM, sticks wrote:
--snip--
"In other words, our results might be overestimated by a factor 5 (i.e. >>>>> the actual number of deaths related to HCQ would be ?3000 deaths) or >>>>> underestimated by a factor 2 (i.e. the actual number of deaths related >>>>> to HCQ would be ?30000 deaths). Thus, the effect of HCQ on mortality was >>>>> the main source of uncertainty for the proposed estimates."
RFK Jr. on HCQ and Ivermectin. There used to be libs who wanted truth. >>>> Very few anymore. Now they all just act like sheep.
<https://rumble.com/v45ym9w-rfk-jr.-unloads-the-truth-about-ivermectin-to-the-hill-it-was-really-a-mira.html>
So? Riddle me this Batman: Have any of you morons ever been brave >>> enough to swallow even a drop of this shite? Are you now, or have you
ever eaten this miracle cure as a way to guard against Covid? Inquiring
minds would like to know about your actual experience with this miracle
cure? lqtm
TB
LOL My answer should be obvious to all but the completely
oblivious. The way you're dodging the question makes your answer obvious
too. You hypocrites are preaching a gospel that you don't actually
believe yourself.
TB
On 1/10/2024 9:16 AM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <unjpr5$228r9$1@dont-email.me>, wolverine01@charter.net
says...
On 1/4/2024 6:17 PM, sticks wrote:
--snip--
"In other words, our results might be overestimated by a factor 5
(i.e.
the actual number of deaths related to HCQ would be ?3000 deaths) or >>>>> underestimated by a factor 2 (i.e. the actual number of deaths
related
to HCQ would be ?30000 deaths). Thus, the effect of HCQ on
mortality was
the main source of uncertainty for the proposed estimates."
RFK Jr. on HCQ and Ivermectin. There used to be libs who wanted
truth.
Very few anymore. Now they all just act like sheep.
<https://rumble.com/v45ym9w-rfk-jr.-unloads-the-truth-about-ivermectin-to-the-hill-it-was-really-a-mira.html>
     So? Riddle me this Batman: Have any of you morons ever
been brave
enough to swallow even a drop of this shite? Are you now, or have you
ever eaten this miracle cure as a way to guard against Covid?
Inquiring
minds would like to know about your actual experience with this
miracle
cure? lqtm
So look, I have not swallowed even a drop of it, but I did, like, a
thought experiment
HawHawHaw!
about, you know, swallowing it............and it worked - I
literally have not gotten Covid in the passage of time since then.
Note: My voluntary answering of your question is not a
self-admission of being one of any of the alleged morons you refer to.
On 1/10/2024 11:16 AM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <unjpr5$228r9$1@dont-email.me>, wolverine01@charter.net
says...
On 1/4/2024 6:17 PM, sticks wrote:
--snip--
"In other words, our results might be overestimated by a factor 5
(i.e.
the actual number of deaths related to HCQ would be ?3000 deaths) or >>>>> underestimated by a factor 2 (i.e. the actual number of deaths related >>>>> to HCQ would be ?30000 deaths). Thus, the effect of HCQ on
mortality was
the main source of uncertainty for the proposed estimates."
RFK Jr. on HCQ and Ivermectin. There used to be libs who wanted truth. >>>> Very few anymore. Now they all just act like sheep.
<https://rumble.com/v45ym9w-rfk-jr.-unloads-the-truth-about-ivermectin-to-the-hill-it-was-really-a-mira.html>
So? Riddle me this Batman: Have any of you morons ever been brave
enough to swallow even a drop of this shite? Are you now, or have you
ever eaten this miracle cure as a way to guard against Covid? Inquiring
minds would like to know about your actual experience with this miracle
cure? lqtm
So look, I have not swallowed even a drop of it, but I did, like, a
thought experiment about, you know, swallowing it............and it
worked - I literally have not gotten Covid in the passage of time
since then.
Note: My voluntary answering of your question is not a self-admission
of being one of any of the alleged morons you refer to.
Gawd that Boob is an idiot. I have no problem answering if I have tried
it or not. I am unvaxxed, and asked my doctor if he would prescribe it
if I wanted it. He answered affirmatively. I got covid, it was
relatively minor for me, and I didn't feel I needed anything to get over
it, and wanted to instead gain totally natural immunity. If I got
worse, I would have taken it without hesitation. Same goes for HCQ.
What sickens me is the idiots on the left who refuse to address the real problem of where this originated, and the reasons for denying
therapeutic alternatives to vaccination, and granting BigPharma
emergency use and immunity from prosecution for any adverse affects of
their experimental mRNA bio-weapon. Like the article origally quoted,
it all gets ignored in favor of harming Trump.
They refuse to read or listen to anything questioning the party
narrative. They are oblivious to the fact millions of people worldwide
were killed by not only the virus, but now the experimental vaccine with
not only cardiovascular issues, but deficient immune system responses to infection and even turbo cancers in numbers never seen before. Of
course they are busy claiming all this is coincidental and a myth. For
some unknown reason, they appear to take everything the corrupt WHO and BigPharma claim at face value, even though they knew ahead of time the lock-downs, closing of businesses and schools, and sending everyone
indoors was the wrong way to deal with a pandemic. You could go to
Walmart, but not church. Some places even used it as a reason to limit one's ability to buy a weapon for self defense, which would be critical
when all hell breaks loose and anarchy sets in.
Instead of intelligently addressing real issues associated with this
farce pandemic, they instead wish to again find a way to harm Trump.
Wash, rinse, repeat. You also have to remember these are the same
people who insist an 8 year old can chop off his weiner if he so
chooses, and a parent has no say in the matter. Yet an adult cannot
have access to a widely used effective drug on their deathbed if they so choose. The same people who insist a underage teenage woman should be
able to abort a living, breathing, heart beating baby right up until
birth, because it is "Her body, her choice." Yet an elderly person or healthcare worker at great risk of getting covid cannot use HCQ as a prophylactic alternative if they so choose. Total fucking hypocrisy!
kmiller wrote:
On 1/10/2024 9:16 AM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <unjpr5$228r9$1@dont-email.me>, wolverine01@charter.net
says...
On 1/4/2024 6:17 PM, sticks wrote:
--snip--
"In other words, our results might be overestimated by a factor 5
(i.e.
the actual number of deaths related to HCQ would be ?3000 deaths) or >>>>>> underestimated by a factor 2 (i.e. the actual number of deaths
related
to HCQ would be ?30000 deaths). Thus, the effect of HCQ on
mortality was
the main source of uncertainty for the proposed estimates."
RFK Jr. on HCQ and Ivermectin. There used to be libs who wanted
truth.
Very few anymore. Now they all just act like sheep.
<https://rumble.com/v45ym9w-rfk-jr.-unloads-the-truth-about-ivermectin-to-the-hill-it-was-really-a-mira.html>
     So? Riddle me this Batman: Have any of you morons ever
been brave
enough to swallow even a drop of this shite? Are you now, or have you
ever eaten this miracle cure as a way to guard against Covid? Inquiring >>>> minds would like to know about your actual experience with this miracle >>>> cure? lqtm
So look, I have not swallowed even a drop of it, but I did, like, a
thought experiment
HawHawHaw!
Hey. I'm still capable of thought.............more or less.
(here's a measurement of me thinking a thought)
Download Mbps
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Ping ms 11
about, you know, swallowing it............and it worked - I literally
have not gotten Covid in the passage of time since then.
Note: My voluntary answering of your question is not a self-admission
of being one of any of the alleged morons you refer to.
On 1/10/2024 12:30 PM, sticks wrote:
On 1/10/2024 11:16 AM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
In article <unjpr5$228r9$1@dont-email.me>, wolverine01@charter.net
says...
On 1/4/2024 6:17 PM, sticks wrote:
--snip--
"In other words, our results might be overestimated by a factor 5
(i.e.
the actual number of deaths related to HCQ would be ?3000 deaths) or >>>>>> underestimated by a factor 2 (i.e. the actual number of deaths
related
to HCQ would be ?30000 deaths). Thus, the effect of HCQ on
mortality was
the main source of uncertainty for the proposed estimates."
RFK Jr. on HCQ and Ivermectin. There used to be libs who wanted
truth.
Very few anymore. Now they all just act like sheep.
<https://rumble.com/v45ym9w-rfk-jr.-unloads-the-truth-about-ivermectin-to-the-hill-it-was-really-a-mira.html>
So? Riddle me this Batman: Have any of you morons ever been brave
enough to swallow even a drop of this shite? Are you now, or have you
ever eaten this miracle cure as a way to guard against Covid? Inquiring >>>> minds would like to know about your actual experience with this miracle >>>> cure? lqtm
So look, I have not swallowed even a drop of it, but I did, like, a
thought experiment about, you know, swallowing it............and it
worked - I literally have not gotten Covid in the passage of time
since then.
Note: My voluntary answering of your question is not a self-admission
of being one of any of the alleged morons you refer to.
Gawd that Boob is an idiot. I have no problem answering if I have
tried it or not. I am unvaxxed, and asked my doctor if he would
prescribe it if I wanted it. He answered affirmatively. I got covid,
it was relatively minor for me, and I didn't feel I needed anything to
get over it, and wanted to instead gain totally natural immunity. If
I got worse, I would have taken it without hesitation. Same goes for
HCQ.
What sickens me is the idiots on the left who refuse to address the
real problem of where this originated, and the reasons for denying
therapeutic alternatives to vaccination, and granting BigPharma
emergency use and immunity from prosecution for any adverse affects of
their experimental mRNA bio-weapon. Like the article origally quoted,
it all gets ignored in favor of harming Trump.
They refuse to read or listen to anything questioning the party
narrative. They are oblivious to the fact millions of people
worldwide were killed by not only the virus, but now the experimental
vaccine with not only cardiovascular issues, but deficient immune
system responses to infection and even turbo cancers in numbers never
seen before. Of course they are busy claiming all this is
coincidental and a myth. For some unknown reason, they appear to take
everything the corrupt WHO and BigPharma claim at face value, even
though they knew ahead of time the lock-downs, closing of businesses
and schools, and sending everyone indoors was the wrong way to deal
with a pandemic. You could go to Walmart, but not church. Some
places even used it as a reason to limit one's ability to buy a weapon
for self defense, which would be critical when all hell breaks loose
and anarchy sets in.
Instead of intelligently addressing real issues associated with this
farce pandemic, they instead wish to again find a way to harm Trump.
Wash, rinse, repeat. You also have to remember these are the same
people who insist an 8 year old can chop off his weiner if he so
chooses, and a parent has no say in the matter. Yet an adult cannot
have access to a widely used effective drug on their deathbed if they
so choose. The same people who insist a underage teenage woman should
be able to abort a living, breathing, heart beating baby right up
until birth, because it is "Her body, her choice." Yet an elderly
person or healthcare worker at great risk of getting covid cannot use
HCQ as a prophylactic alternative if they so choose. Total fucking
hypocrisy!
Liberals are the quintessential followers. They need government to tell
them where to go, what to do, and when and how to do it. They have no
ability to think for themselves and must be told what to think by
government and media (oops, there I go with the redundancy again).
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