• The Q-anon shaman returns.

    From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 11 21:12:10 2023
    "PHOENIX — Jacob Chansley, who may be better known as the "QAnon Shaman," has filed a statement of interest to run for Arizona’s 8th Congressional District in Congress."

    https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/jacob-chansley-intends-run-office-arizona/75-ceb89d96-4973-4dd6-bbd9-0fe8fde55db2

    As a felony convict, Chansley can run but not vote in Arizona.

    He should fit right in with some of the other magaloons in Congress. Some of them will probably be gone by the time he gets there, but they will probably be replaced by other loons. So it should all work out well.

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sun Nov 12 02:29:52 2023
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "PHOENIX — Jacob Chansley, who may be better known as the "QAnon Shaman," has filed a statement of interest to run for Arizona’s
    8th Congressional District in Congress."

    https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/jacob-chansley-intends-run-office-arizona/75-ceb89d96-4973-4dd6-bbd9-0fe8fde55db2

    As a felony convict, Chansley can run but not vote in Arizona.

    He should fit right in with some of the other magaloons in
    Congress. Some of them will probably be gone by the time he gets
    there, but they will probably be replaced by other loons. So it
    should all work out well.

    Besides, even in Congress, we gotta endeavor to persevere to be
    diverse, equitable, and inclusive, don't we?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Sun Nov 12 09:50:10 2023
    On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:29:56 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "PHOENIX — Jacob Chansley, who may be better known as the "QAnon Shaman," has filed a statement of interest to run for Arizona’s
    8th Congressional District in Congress."

    https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/jacob-chansley-intends-run-office-arizona/75-ceb89d96-4973-4dd6-bbd9-0fe8fde55db2

    As a felony convict, Chansley can run but not vote in Arizona.

    He should fit right in with some of the other magaloons in
    Congress. Some of them will probably be gone by the time he gets
    there, but they will probably be replaced by other loons. So it
    should all work out well.
    Besides, even in Congress, we gotta endeavor to persevere to be
    diverse, equitable, and inclusive, don't we?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Since when do we gotta': "endeavor to persevere to be: "diverse, equitable, and inclusive" in Congress? We want people who represent us. Who could represent the magaloons of AZ better than Chansley? His district is basically the northwest corner of
    the Phoenix metropolitan area, and includes well known places like Sun City and Sun City West. Along with a lot of desert (and Rattlesnakes). He's a nationally known magaloon activist and a decorated veteran of the battle to throw out the results of the
    last election. This is obviously a great career choice for him, even if he doesn't win the first time around. What else could he do that has better income potential? His old "Free Jacob Chansley" web page only raised $27,841 on a goal of $55,000 for
    Chansley the martyr. I'll bet his political fundraising does much better than that.

    He says he's running as a Libertarian. That's a logical choice given that the retrumplican's leader dropped him like a hot rock after he went out of his way to be helpful. But, I think he would do better if he joined the retrumplicans.

    "When speaking to Inside Edition’s chief investigative correspondent Lisa Guerrero, he said what he wished he had done differently. “In retrospect, one thing I can say that I regret is not working to make sure there was far more peace on that day,”
    says Chansley. “If I had known that was going to happen, I would have stepped in before the barricades were breached. I actually tried to calm down the crowd on more than one occasion. It just didn’t work.”

    Chansley was on his mother’s speakerphone, calling in from a federal prison in Oklahoma. That’s where he’s serving a 41-month prison sentence for pleading guilty to a single count of obstructing a proceeding of Congress. In November, he filed an
    appeal to void his guilty plea and his sentence. But, for now, he’s doing better than he was before while behind bars. “Considering I’m not in solitary confinement anymore, I’m better than I was when I was in solitary,” Chansley said.

    Chansley, who went to high school in the Valley, gained fame for wearing a fury horned hat and face and body paint at QAnon rallies. He had the same get-up on Jan. 6 and carried a spear with an American flag. But he blames the media for his portrayal of
    what he did that day. “As far as being the ‘face’ that’s something the media made me,” Chansley said. “I didn’t make myself anything.”

    Guerrero also spoke with his mother, Martha Chansley, who says she is standing by her son. “He was invited to go to the Capitol by President (Donald) Trump,” says Martha. “I feel really passionately about how wrong it is that he is even doing any
    time at all.”"

    https://www.azfamily.com/2022/01/06/arizonas-qanon-shaman-speaks-jail-has-one-regret-role-riot/

    So he's really a misunderstood hero, who deserves a place in Congress.

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sun Nov 12 14:01:53 2023
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:29:56 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "PHOENIX — Jacob Chansley, who may be better known as
    the "QAnon Shaman," has filed a statement of interest to run
    for Arizona’s 8th Congressional District in Congress."

    https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/jacob-chansley-intends-run-office-arizona/75-ceb89d96-4973-4dd6-bbd9-0fe8fde55db2



    As a felony convict, Chansley can run but not vote in Arizona.

    He should fit right in with some of the other magaloons in
    Congress. Some of them will probably be gone by the time he
    gets there, but they will probably be replaced by other loons.
    So it should all work out well.
    Besides, even in Congress, we gotta endeavor to persevere to be
    diverse, equitable, and inclusive, don't we?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Since when do we gotta': "endeavor to persevere to be: "diverse,
    equitable, and inclusive" in Congress? We want people who represent
    us. Who could represent the magaloons of AZ better than Chansley?
    His district is basically the northwest corner of the Phoenix
    metropolitan area, and includes well known places like Sun City and
    Sun City West. Along with a lot of desert (and Rattlesnakes). He's
    a nationally known magaloon activist and a decorated veteran of the
    battle to throw out the results of the last election. This is
    obviously a great career choice for him, even if he doesn't win the
    first time around. What else could he do that has better income
    potential? His old "Free Jacob Chansley" web page only raised
    $27,841 on a goal of $55,000 for Chansley the martyr. I'll bet his
    political fundraising does much better than that.

    He says he's running as a Libertarian. That's a logical choice
    given that the retrumplican's leader dropped him like a hot rock
    after he went out of his way to be helpful. But, I think he would
    do better if he joined the retrumplicans.

    "When speaking to Inside Edition’s chief investigative
    correspondent Lisa Guerrero, he said what he wished he had done
    differently. “In retrospect, one thing I can say that I regret is
    not working to make sure there was far more peace on that day,”
    says Chansley. “If I had known that was going to happen, I would
    have stepped in before the barricades were breached. I actually
    tried to calm down the crowd on more than one occasion. It just
    didn’t work.”

    Chansley was on his mother’s speakerphone, calling in from a
    federal prison in Oklahoma. That’s where he’s serving a 41-month prison sentence for pleading guilty to a single count of
    obstructing a proceeding of Congress. In November, he filed an
    appeal to void his guilty plea and his sentence. But, for now,
    he’s doing better than he was before while behind bars. “Considering I’m not in solitary confinement anymore, I’m better than I was when I was in solitary,” Chansley said.

    Chansley, who went to high school in the Valley, gained fame for
    wearing a fury horned hat and face and body paint at QAnon rallies.
    He had the same get-up on Jan. 6 and carried a spear with an
    American flag. But he blames the media for his portrayal of what he
    did that day. “As far as being the ‘face’ that’s something
    the media made me,” Chansley said. “I didn’t make myself anything.”

    Guerrero also spoke with his mother, Martha Chansley, who says she
    is standing by her son. “He was invited to go to the Capitol by President (Donald) Trump,” says Martha. “I feel really passionately about how wrong it is that he is even doing any time
    at all.”"

    sigh.

    https://www.azfamily.com/2022/01/06/arizonas-qanon-shaman-speaks-jail-has-one-regret-role-riot/

    So he's really a misunderstood hero, who deserves a place in
    Congress.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Sun Nov 12 18:56:13 2023
    On 11/11/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "PHOENIX — Jacob Chansley, who may be better known as the "QAnon
    Shaman," has filed a statement of interest to run for Arizona’s
    8th Congressional District in Congress."

    https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/jacob-chansley-intends-run-office-arizona/75-ceb89d96-4973-4dd6-bbd9-0fe8fde55db2

     As a felony convict, Chansley can run but not vote in Arizona.

    He should fit right in with some of the other magaloons in
    Congress. Some of them will probably be gone by the time he gets
    there, but they will probably be replaced by other loons. So it
    should all work out well.

    Besides, even in Congress, we gotta endeavor to persevere to be diverse, equitable, and inclusive, don't we?


    You misspelled, perverse, inequitable and exclusive. But, you knew that,
    didn't you.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Sun Nov 12 19:47:37 2023
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 11:01:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:29:56 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "PHOENIX  Jacob Chansley, who may be better known as
    the "QAnon Shaman," has filed a statement of interest to run
    for Arizona’s 8th Congressional District in Congress." >>>
    https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/jacob-chansley-intends-run-office-arizona/75-ceb89d96-4973-4dd6-bbd9-0fe8fde55db2



    As a felony convict, Chansley can run but not vote in Arizona.

    He should fit right in with some of the other magaloons in
    Congress. Some of them will probably be gone by the time he
    gets there, but they will probably be replaced by other loons.
    So it should all work out well.
    Besides, even in Congress, we gotta endeavor to persevere to be
    diverse, equitable, and inclusive, don't we?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Since when do we gotta': "endeavor to persevere to be: "diverse, equitable, and inclusive" in Congress? We want people who represent
    us. Who could represent the magaloons of AZ better than Chansley?
    His district is basically the northwest corner of the Phoenix
    metropolitan area, and includes well known places like Sun City and
    Sun City West. Along with a lot of desert (and Rattlesnakes). He's
    a nationally known magaloon activist and a decorated veteran of the
    battle to throw out the results of the last election. This is
    obviously a great career choice for him, even if he doesn't win the
    first time around. What else could he do that has better income
    potential? His old "Free Jacob Chansley" web page only raised
    $27,841 on a goal of $55,000 for Chansley the martyr. I'll bet his political fundraising does much better than that.

    He says he's running as a Libertarian. That's a logical choice
    given that the retrumplican's leader dropped him like a hot rock
    after he went out of his way to be helpful. But, I think he would
    do better if he joined the retrumplicans.

    "When speaking to Inside Edition’s chief investigative
    correspondent Lisa Guerrero, he said what he wished he had done differently. “In retrospect, one thing I can say that I regret is not working to make sure there was far more peace on that day,â€
    says Chansley. “If I had known that was going to happen, I would
    have stepped in before the barricades were breached. I actually
    tried to calm down the crowd on more than one occasion. It just didn’t work.â€

    Chansley was on his mother’s speakerphone, calling in from a federal prison in Oklahoma. That’s where he’s serving a 41-month prison sentence for pleading guilty to a single count of obstructing a proceeding of Congress. In November, he filed an
    appeal to void his guilty plea and his sentence. But, for now,
    he’s doing better than he was before while behind bars. “Considering I’m not in solitary confinement anymore, I’m
    better than I was when I was in solitary,†Chansley said.

    Chansley, who went to high school in the Valley, gained fame for
    wearing a fury horned hat and face and body paint at QAnon rallies.
    He had the same get-up on Jan. 6 and carried a spear with an
    American flag. But he blames the media for his portrayal of what he
    did that day. “As far as being the ‘face’ that’s something
    the media made me,†Chansley said. “I didn’t make myself anything.â€

    Guerrero also spoke with his mother, Martha Chansley, who says she
    is standing by her son. “He was invited to go to the Capitol by President (Donald) Trump,†says Martha. “I feel really passionately about how wrong it is that he is even doing any time
    at all.†"

    sigh.
    https://www.azfamily.com/2022/01/06/arizonas-qanon-shaman-speaks-jail-has-one-regret-role-riot/

    So he's really a misunderstood hero, who deserves a place in
    Congress.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    It gets worse.

    "His lawyers said during court proceedings that he had disavowed both QAnon conspiracy theories and former President Trump."

    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/12/jan-6-rioter-qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-congress

    Hmm, he may have taken it personally when orange jesus didn't save him from a felony conviction? I hope he hasn't given up on shamanism and hung up his horns. If he had been willing to forgive and forget he probably could have made a good
    living from the cult's worship services. As we all know, there is no bigger sin than being disloyal to orange jesus. He has the same problem as Mike Pence. He's an <GASP> *apostate*. Prison may have hardened him. He doesn't have any other skills that we
    know of. If he can't make it as a politician--which seems very likely--about the best he can hope for is selling pictures and autographs at county fairs and political rallies.

    TB

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Mon Nov 13 12:37:18 2023
    On 11/12/2023 7:47 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 11:01:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:29:56 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "PHOENIX  Jacob Chansley, who may be better known as >>>>> the "QAnon Shaman," has filed a statement of interest to run
    for Arizona’s 8th Congressional District in Congress." >>>>>
    https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/jacob-chansley-intends-run-office-arizona/75-ceb89d96-4973-4dd6-bbd9-0fe8fde55db2



    As a felony convict, Chansley can run but not vote in Arizona.

    He should fit right in with some of the other magaloons in
    Congress. Some of them will probably be gone by the time he
    gets there, but they will probably be replaced by other loons.
    So it should all work out well.
    Besides, even in Congress, we gotta endeavor to persevere to be
    diverse, equitable, and inclusive, don't we?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Since when do we gotta': "endeavor to persevere to be: "diverse,
    equitable, and inclusive" in Congress? We want people who represent
    us. Who could represent the magaloons of AZ better than Chansley?
    His district is basically the northwest corner of the Phoenix
    metropolitan area, and includes well known places like Sun City and
    Sun City West. Along with a lot of desert (and Rattlesnakes). He's
    a nationally known magaloon activist and a decorated veteran of the
    battle to throw out the results of the last election. This is
    obviously a great career choice for him, even if he doesn't win the
    first time around. What else could he do that has better income
    potential? His old "Free Jacob Chansley" web page only raised
    $27,841 on a goal of $55,000 for Chansley the martyr. I'll bet his
    political fundraising does much better than that.

    He says he's running as a Libertarian. That's a logical choice
    given that the retrumplican's leader dropped him like a hot rock
    after he went out of his way to be helpful. But, I think he would
    do better if he joined the retrumplicans.

    "When speaking to Inside Edition’s chief investigative
    correspondent Lisa Guerrero, he said what he wished he had done
    differently. “In retrospect, one thing I can say that I regret is
    not working to make sure there was far more peace on that day,â€
    says Chansley. “If I had known that was going to happen, I would
    have stepped in before the barricades were breached. I actually
    tried to calm down the crowd on more than one occasion. It just
    didn’t work.â€

    Chansley was on his mother’s speakerphone, calling in from a
    federal prison in Oklahoma. That’s where he’s serving a
    41-month prison sentence for pleading guilty to a single count of
    obstructing a proceeding of Congress. In November, he filed an
    appeal to void his guilty plea and his sentence. But, for now,
    he’s doing better than he was before while behind bars.
    “Considering I’m not in solitary confinement anymore, I’m
    better than I was when I was in solitary,†Chansley said.

    Chansley, who went to high school in the Valley, gained fame for
    wearing a fury horned hat and face and body paint at QAnon rallies.
    He had the same get-up on Jan. 6 and carried a spear with an
    American flag. But he blames the media for his portrayal of what he
    did that day. “As far as being the ‘face’ that’s something
    the media made me,†Chansley said. “I didn’t make myself >>> anything.â€

    Guerrero also spoke with his mother, Martha Chansley, who says she
    is standing by her son. “He was invited to go to the Capitol by
    President (Donald) Trump,†says Martha. “I feel really
    passionately about how wrong it is that he is even doing any time
    at all.†"

    sigh.
    https://www.azfamily.com/2022/01/06/arizonas-qanon-shaman-speaks-jail-has-one-regret-role-riot/

    So he's really a misunderstood hero, who deserves a place in
    Congress.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    It gets worse.

    "His lawyers said during court proceedings that he had disavowed both QAnon conspiracy theories and former President Trump."

    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/12/jan-6-rioter-qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-congress

    Hmm, he may have taken it personally when orange jesus didn't save him from a felony conviction? I hope he hasn't given up on shamanism and hung up his horns. If he had been willing to forgive and forget he probably could have made a good
    living from the cult's worship services. As we all know, there is no bigger sin than being disloyal to orange jesus. He has the same problem as Mike Pence. He's an <GASP> *apostate*. Prison may have hardened him. He doesn't have any other skills that we
    know of. If he can't make it as a politician--which seems very likely--about the best he can hope for is selling pictures and autographs at county fairs and political rallies.

    TB

    Does this make him "vermin"?

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to kmiller on Mon Nov 13 13:19:02 2023
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:37:28 PM UTC-8, kmiller wrote:
    On 11/12/2023 7:47 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 11:01:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:29:56 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote: >>>> Technobarbarian wrote:

    "PHOENIX  Jacob Chansley, who may be better known as >>>>> the "QAnon Shaman," has filed a statement of interest to run
    for Arizona’s 8th Congressional District in Congress."

    https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/jacob-chansley-intends-run-office-arizona/75-ceb89d96-4973-4dd6-bbd9-0fe8fde55db2



    As a felony convict, Chansley can run but not vote in Arizona.

    He should fit right in with some of the other magaloons in
    Congress. Some of them will probably be gone by the time he
    gets there, but they will probably be replaced by other loons.
    So it should all work out well.
    Besides, even in Congress, we gotta endeavor to persevere to be
    diverse, equitable, and inclusive, don't we?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Since when do we gotta': "endeavor to persevere to be: "diverse,
    equitable, and inclusive" in Congress? We want people who represent
    us. Who could represent the magaloons of AZ better than Chansley?
    His district is basically the northwest corner of the Phoenix
    metropolitan area, and includes well known places like Sun City and
    Sun City West. Along with a lot of desert (and Rattlesnakes). He's
    a nationally known magaloon activist and a decorated veteran of the
    battle to throw out the results of the last election. This is
    obviously a great career choice for him, even if he doesn't win the
    first time around. What else could he do that has better income
    potential? His old "Free Jacob Chansley" web page only raised
    $27,841 on a goal of $55,000 for Chansley the martyr. I'll bet his
    political fundraising does much better than that.

    He says he's running as a Libertarian. That's a logical choice
    given that the retrumplican's leader dropped him like a hot rock
    after he went out of his way to be helpful. But, I think he would
    do better if he joined the retrumplicans.

    "When speaking to Inside Edition’s chief investigative
    correspondent Lisa Guerrero, he said what he wished he had done
    differently. “In retrospect, one thing I can say that I regret is >>> not working to make sure there was far more peace on that day,â€
    says Chansley. “If I had known that was going to happen, I would >>> have stepped in before the barricades were breached. I actually
    tried to calm down the crowd on more than one occasion. It just
    didn’t work.â€

    Chansley was on his mother’s speakerphone, calling in from a
    federal prison in Oklahoma. That’s where he’s serving a >>> 41-month prison sentence for pleading guilty to a single count of
    obstructing a proceeding of Congress. In November, he filed an
    appeal to void his guilty plea and his sentence. But, for now,
    he’s doing better than he was before while behind bars.
    “Considering I’m not in solitary confinement anymore, I’m
    better than I was when I was in solitary,†Chansley said.

    Chansley, who went to high school in the Valley, gained fame for
    wearing a fury horned hat and face and body paint at QAnon rallies.
    He had the same get-up on Jan. 6 and carried a spear with an
    American flag. But he blames the media for his portrayal of what he
    did that day. “As far as being the ‘face’ that’s something
    the media made me,†Chansley said. “I didn’t make myself
    anything.â€

    Guerrero also spoke with his mother, Martha Chansley, who says she
    is standing by her son. “He was invited to go to the Capitol by >>> President (Donald) Trump,†says Martha. “I feel really
    passionately about how wrong it is that he is even doing any time
    at all.†"

    sigh.
    https://www.azfamily.com/2022/01/06/arizonas-qanon-shaman-speaks-jail-has-one-regret-role-riot/

    So he's really a misunderstood hero, who deserves a place in
    Congress.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    It gets worse.

    "His lawyers said during court proceedings that he had disavowed both QAnon conspiracy theories and former President Trump."

    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/12/jan-6-rioter-qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-congress

    Hmm, he may have taken it personally when orange jesus didn't save him from a felony conviction? I hope he hasn't given up on shamanism and hung up his horns. If he had been willing to forgive and forget he probably could have made a good living from
    the cult's worship services. As we all know, there is no bigger sin than being disloyal to orange jesus. He has the same problem as Mike Pence. He's an <GASP> *apostate*. Prison may have hardened him. He doesn't have any other skills that we know of. If
    he can't make it as a politician--which seems very likely--about the best he can hope for is selling pictures and autographs at county fairs and political rallies.

    TB
    Does this make him "vermin"?

    Ya' know............, actually, I think this makes him smarter than I expected. OTOH the way he goes after windmills isn't likely to end well for him.

    But, "vermin", in reference to people, is way over the top for me. I've been a lot of different places and met a lot of different people. Wherever I go I have always found a lot of decent people just trying to live a peaceful life. I don't even
    think of any of the animals found in our ecosystem here as "vermin". We were at a state park on the Columbia river yesterday, enjoying the Fall scenery and collecting pretty rocks. When we got back to our car there was a skunk inspecting it. I thought it
    was utterly charming. I am in open warfare with the local squirrels over possession of my suet feeder, but I consider that a fair fight and I'm using non-lethal deterrence.

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Mon Nov 13 16:18:58 2023
    kmiller wrote:
    On 11/12/2023 7:47 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 11:01:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:29:56 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "PHOENIX  Jacob Chansley, who may be better
    known as
    the "QAnon Shaman," has filed a statement of interest to run
    for Arizona’s 8th Congressional District in
    Congress."

    https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/jacob-chansley-intends-run-office-arizona/75-ceb89d96-4973-4dd6-bbd9-0fe8fde55db2




    As a felony convict, Chansley can run but not vote in Arizona.

    He should fit right in with some of the other magaloons in
    Congress. Some of them will probably be gone by the time he
    gets there, but they will probably be replaced by other loons.
    So it should all work out well.
    Besides, even in Congress, we gotta endeavor to persevere to be
    diverse, equitable, and inclusive, don't we?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Since when do we gotta': "endeavor to persevere to be: "diverse,
    equitable, and inclusive" in Congress? We want people who represent
    us. Who could represent the magaloons of AZ better than Chansley?
    His district is basically the northwest corner of the Phoenix
    metropolitan area, and includes well known places like Sun City and
    Sun City West. Along with a lot of desert (and Rattlesnakes). He's
    a nationally known magaloon activist and a decorated veteran of the
    battle to throw out the results of the last election. This is
    obviously a great career choice for him, even if he doesn't win the
    first time around. What else could he do that has better income
    potential? His old "Free Jacob Chansley" web page only raised
    $27,841 on a goal of $55,000 for Chansley the martyr. I'll bet his
    political fundraising does much better than that.

    He says he's running as a Libertarian. That's a logical choice
    given that the retrumplican's leader dropped him like a hot rock
    after he went out of his way to be helpful. But, I think he would
    do better if he joined the retrumplicans.

    "When speaking to Inside Edition’s chief investigative >>>> correspondent Lisa Guerrero, he said what he wished he had done
    differently. “In retrospect, one thing I can say that I >>>> regret is
    not working to make sure there was far more peace on that day,†>>>> says Chansley. “If I had known that was going to happen, I >>>> would
    have stepped in before the barricades were breached. I actually
    tried to calm down the crowd on more than one occasion. It just
    didn’t work.â€

    Chansley was on his mother’s speakerphone, calling in from a
    federal prison in Oklahoma. That’s where he’s serving a
    41-month prison sentence for pleading guilty to a single count of
    obstructing a proceeding of Congress. In November, he filed an
    appeal to void his guilty plea and his sentence. But, for now,
    he’s doing better than he was before while behind bars. >>>> “Considering I’m not in solitary confinement anymore,
    I’m
    better than I was when I was in solitary,†Chansley said.

    Chansley, who went to high school in the Valley, gained fame for
    wearing a fury horned hat and face and body paint at QAnon rallies.
    He had the same get-up on Jan. 6 and carried a spear with an
    American flag. But he blames the media for his portrayal of what he
    did that day. “As far as being the ‘face’
    that’s something
    the media made me,†Chansley said. “I didn’t make
    myself
    anything.â€

    Guerrero also spoke with his mother, Martha Chansley, who says she
    is standing by her son. “He was invited to go to the Capitol by
    President (Donald) Trump,†says Martha. “I feel really
    passionately about how wrong it is that he is even doing any time
    at all.†"

    sigh.
    https://www.azfamily.com/2022/01/06/arizonas-qanon-shaman-speaks-jail-has-one-regret-role-riot/


    So he's really a misunderstood hero, who deserves a place in
    Congress.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

            It gets worse.

    "His lawyers said during court proceedings that he had disavowed
    both QAnon conspiracy theories and former President Trump."

    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/12/jan-6-rioter-qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-congress


               Hmm, he may have taken it personally when orange jesus >> didn't save him from a felony conviction? I hope he hasn't given up
    on shamanism and hung up his horns. If he had been willing to
    forgive and forget he probably could have made a good living from
    the cult's worship services. As we all know, there is no bigger sin
    than being disloyal to orange jesus. He has the same problem as Mike
    Pence. He's an <GASP> *apostate*. Prison may have hardened him. He
    doesn't have any other skills that we know of. If he can't make it
    as a politician--which seems very likely--about the best he can hope
    for is selling pictures and autographs at county fairs and political
    rallies.

    TB

    Does this make him "vermin"?

    Look, of course it does. So everybody knows that Republicans are,
    like, you know, <begin uptalk> vermin, varmints, fascists, racists,
    bigots, cultists, shamanists, climate change causers, conspiracy
    theorists, insurrectionists, domestic terrorists, deniers of various
    and multiple things that everybody else believes, have numerous
    phobias, and are literally Threats To Democracy <end uptalk>.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Mon Nov 13 14:52:37 2023
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 1:19:03 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 11/12/2023 7:47 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 11:01:58 AM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 11:29:56 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:

    "PHOENIX  Jacob Chansley, who may be better
    known as
    the "QAnon Shaman," has filed a statement of interest to run
    for Arizona’s 8th Congressional District in
    Congress."

    https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/jacob-chansley-intends-run-office-arizona/75-ceb89d96-4973-4dd6-bbd9-0fe8fde55db2




    As a felony convict, Chansley can run but not vote in Arizona.

    He should fit right in with some of the other magaloons in
    Congress. Some of them will probably be gone by the time he
    gets there, but they will probably be replaced by other loons.
    So it should all work out well.
    Besides, even in Congress, we gotta endeavor to persevere to be
    diverse, equitable, and inclusive, don't we?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Since when do we gotta': "endeavor to persevere to be: "diverse,
    equitable, and inclusive" in Congress? We want people who represent >>>> us. Who could represent the magaloons of AZ better than Chansley?
    His district is basically the northwest corner of the Phoenix
    metropolitan area, and includes well known places like Sun City and >>>> Sun City West. Along with a lot of desert (and Rattlesnakes). He's
    a nationally known magaloon activist and a decorated veteran of the >>>> battle to throw out the results of the last election. This is
    obviously a great career choice for him, even if he doesn't win the >>>> first time around. What else could he do that has better income
    potential? His old "Free Jacob Chansley" web page only raised
    $27,841 on a goal of $55,000 for Chansley the martyr. I'll bet his
    political fundraising does much better than that.

    He says he's running as a Libertarian. That's a logical choice
    given that the retrumplican's leader dropped him like a hot rock
    after he went out of his way to be helpful. But, I think he would
    do better if he joined the retrumplicans.

    "When speaking to Inside Edition’s chief investigative >>>> correspondent Lisa Guerrero, he said what he wished he had done
    differently. “In retrospect, one thing I can say that I >>>> regret is
    not working to make sure there was far more peace on that day,â€
    says Chansley. “If I had known that was going to happen, I
    would
    have stepped in before the barricades were breached. I actually
    tried to calm down the crowd on more than one occasion. It just
    didn’t work.â€

    Chansley was on his mother’s speakerphone, calling in from a
    federal prison in Oklahoma. That’s where he’s serving a
    41-month prison sentence for pleading guilty to a single count of
    obstructing a proceeding of Congress. In November, he filed an
    appeal to void his guilty plea and his sentence. But, for now,
    he’s doing better than he was before while behind bars.
    “Considering I’m not in solitary confinement anymore,
    I’m
    better than I was when I was in solitary,†Chansley said.

    Chansley, who went to high school in the Valley, gained fame for
    wearing a fury horned hat and face and body paint at QAnon rallies. >>>> He had the same get-up on Jan. 6 and carried a spear with an
    American flag. But he blames the media for his portrayal of what he
    did that day. “As far as being the ‘face’
    that’s something
    the media made me,†Chansley said. “I didn’t make
    myself
    anything.â€

    Guerrero also spoke with his mother, Martha Chansley, who says she
    is standing by her son. “He was invited to go to the Capitol by
    President (Donald) Trump,†says Martha. “I feel really
    passionately about how wrong it is that he is even doing any time
    at all.†"

    sigh.
    https://www.azfamily.com/2022/01/06/arizonas-qanon-shaman-speaks-jail-has-one-regret-role-riot/


    So he's really a misunderstood hero, who deserves a place in
    Congress.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    It gets worse.

    "His lawyers said during court proceedings that he had disavowed
    both QAnon conspiracy theories and former President Trump."

    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/12/jan-6-rioter-qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-congress


    Hmm, he may have taken it personally when orange jesus
    didn't save him from a felony conviction? I hope he hasn't given up
    on shamanism and hung up his horns. If he had been willing to
    forgive and forget he probably could have made a good living from
    the cult's worship services. As we all know, there is no bigger sin
    than being disloyal to orange jesus. He has the same problem as Mike
    Pence. He's an <GASP> *apostate*. Prison may have hardened him. He
    doesn't have any other skills that we know of. If he can't make it
    as a politician--which seems very likely--about the best he can hope
    for is selling pictures and autographs at county fairs and political
    rallies.

    TB

    Does this make him "vermin"?
    Look, of course it does. So everybody knows that Republicans are,
    like, you know, <begin uptalk> vermin, varmints, fascists, racists,
    bigots, cultists, shamanists, climate change causers, conspiracy
    theorists, insurrectionists, domestic terrorists, deniers of various
    and multiple things that everybody else believes, have numerous
    phobias, and are literally Threats To Democracy <end uptalk>.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Some of them are some of those things. Most of them are not all of those things. I do not agree that any of them are automatically sub-human. After you get past fascist there are lot of other people who also fit those labels. The retrumplicans are
    pushing hard on a lot of fascist buttons. If you're paying attention to orange jesus it's a long list. About the only thing we're lacking is public public burning of books and crosses. This is probably because people are mostly having their temper
    tantrums online these days.

    TB

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