Technobarbarian wrote:

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:59:23 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:

Technobarbarian wrote:

We made another trip to the coast, with lovely gray weather,
and managed to fit in some attractions we hadn't seen before.
We have been past the Tillamook Forest Center many times
without stopping to see this free attraction. When they are
open, they are only open on a limited schedule. They closed
early in the pandemic and only opened again recently. The
Tillamook Forest is the result of a series of wildfires and the
depression. During the depression a lot of people couldn't or
wouldn't pay the taxes on burned over forest land. After
several counties foreclosed on that land it was consolidated
into the Tillamook Forest and generates income for several
counties--and a museum.

http://tillamookforestcenter.org/

If you dig through it the website does a pretty good job of
explaining the Forest. One of the odd things the museum
mentions is that during the "Jim Crow era" the logging camps in
the area were not segregated. People lived, worked and played
together without regard to race.

Oceanside is an odd little town that has been there pretty
much forever. There are still a lot of older structures in the
middle of town, including the old post office and a series of
small cabins that has been a motel since motels were invented.

https://visittheoregoncoast.com/cities/oceanside/

The big point of land on the left side of this panoramic view
has a tunnel that has been blasted through it so that people
can walk from one beach to another.

"Explore the Unique Tunnel Beach on the Oregon Coast"
https://thatoregonlife.com/2023/05/tunnel-beach/

Over the years it has been opened and closed several times. I
have never walked through there.

Their website doesn't do the Ocean Front Cabins in Oceanside
justice. this website does a better job:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g52003-d1469219-Reviews-Ocean_Front_Cabins-Oceanside_Oregon.html

So, what makes Oceanside a bit odd, even by Oregon coast

standards, is that the small old part of town is surrounded by
big expensive homes covering the hillside around town. This
time of year there are probably more of those big houses than
residents. The town supports a number of small businesses,
including several restaurants. It's unlikely that many of the
people who work there also live there.

Je*us H Ch*ist. Now you're starting to use "so".

I had read that the beach there is an excellent place to
collect pretty rocks. I had been skeptical because this is a
popular beach. We happened to be there at an ideal time, when
the tide was going out. As it's going out the ocean mixes the
rocks up a lot. So, even though there were a number of people
looking for pretty rocks, everyone found something. Along with
some nice agates we found a lot of small jadeite stones and
some rocks that would be ordinary, except that they had small
bit of jadeite or other rocks imbedded in them.

One of the things you see from the beach is a big blue house a
bit inland from the tunnel, on top of that big point of
land--with a big red for sale sign on that side of the
building. Where that place sits I suspect that you would need
to be able to finance it yourself. It's unlikely that you could
buy landslide insurance for anything less than the value of the
property. The website says the monthly mortgage payment would
only be around $14K.

https://www.movoto.com/oceanside-or/1816-maxwell-mountain-rd-oceanside-or-97134-491_22137300/

So anyhow, I learned a bit more about beach crabbing on a beach

just a bit south of Oceanside. I saw someone who knew what she
was doing catch a keeper and a red rock crab. The red rock
crabs are all keepers if you're into that sort of thing. I did
catch one nice sized keeper from the dock in Garibaldi. I
figure that wasn't too bad, since we only spent a few hours
there, mostly during an unfavorable tide. It has been raining,
so crabbing in the bay is slowing down. It looked like everyone
was catching a few nice keepers and a few that were just a
little too small.

Je*us H Ch*ist. You used "so" again. How long before you start
using "like, you know", and start uptalking?........umm...you're
not uptalking yet are you?

-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

?????? I have no idea what you're talking about. As usual, I'm
mostly just faking it, because I'm mostly writing for myself. You
guys are sort of like accident victims. You just happen to be in
the way.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you're not as on top of
things as you might like to think you are.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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We made another trip to the coast, with lovely gray weather, and managed to fit in some attractions we hadn't seen before. We have been past the Tillamook Forest Center many times without stopping to see this free attraction. When they are open,
they are only open on a limited schedule. They closed early in the pandemic and only opened again recently. The Tillamook Forest is the result of a series of wildfires and the depression. During the depression a lot of people couldn't or wouldn't pay the
taxes on burned over forest land. After several counties foreclosed on that land it was consolidated into the Tillamook Forest and generates income for several counties--and a museum.

http://tillamookforestcenter.org/

If you dig through it the website does a pretty good job of explaining the Forest. One of the odd things the museum mentions is that during the "Jim Crow era" the logging camps in the area were not segregated. People lived, worked and played
together without regard to race.

Oceanside is an odd little town that has been there pretty much forever. There are still a lot of older structures in the middle of town, including the old post office and a series of small cabins that has been a motel since motels were invented.

https://visittheoregoncoast.com/cities/oceanside/

The big point of land on the left side of this panoramic view has a tunnel that has been blasted through it so that people can walk from one beach to another.

"Explore the Unique Tunnel Beach on the Oregon Coast" https://thatoregonlife.com/2023/05/tunnel-beach/

Over the years it has been opened and closed several times. I have never walked through there.

Their website doesn't do the Ocean Front Cabins in Oceanside justice. this website does a better job:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g52003-d1469219-Reviews-Ocean_Front_Cabins-Oceanside_Oregon.html

So, what makes Oceanside a bit odd, even by Oregon coast standards, is that the small old part of town is surrounded by big expensive homes covering the hillside around town. This time of year there are probably more of those big houses than
residents. The town supports a number of small businesses, including several restaurants. It's unlikely that many of the people who work there also live there.

I had read that the beach there is an excellent place to collect pretty rocks. I had been skeptical because this is a popular beach. We happened to be there at an ideal time, when the tide was going out. As it's going out the ocean mixes the rocks
up a lot. So, even though there were a number of people looking for pretty rocks, everyone found something. Along with some nice agates we found a lot of small jadeite stones and some rocks that would be ordinary, except that they had small bit of
jadeite or other rocks imbedded in them.

One of the things you see from the beach is a big blue house a bit inland from the tunnel, on top of that big point of land--with a big red for sale sign on that side of the building. Where that place sits I suspect that you would need to be able
to finance it yourself. It's unlikely that you could buy landslide insurance for anything less than the value of the property. The website says the monthly mortgage payment would only be around $14K.

https://www.movoto.com/oceanside-or/1816-maxwell-mountain-rd-oceanside-or-97134-491_22137300/

So anyhow, I learned a bit more about beach crabbing on a beach just a bit south of Oceanside. I saw someone who knew what she was doing catch a keeper and a red rock crab. The red rock crabs are all keepers if you're into that sort of thing. I
did catch one nice sized keeper from the dock in Garibaldi. I figure that wasn't too bad, since we only spent a few hours there, mostly during an unfavorable tide. It has been raining, so crabbing in the bay is slowing down. It looked like everyone was
catching a few nice keepers and a few that were just a little too small.

TB

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Technobarbarian wrote:

We made another trip to the coast, with lovely gray weather, and
managed to fit in some attractions we hadn't seen before. We have
been past the Tillamook Forest Center many times without stopping
to see this free attraction. When they are open, they are only open
on a limited schedule. They closed early in the pandemic and only
opened again recently. The Tillamook Forest is the result of a
series of wildfires and the depression. During the depression a lot
of people couldn't or wouldn't pay the taxes on burned over forest
land. After several counties foreclosed on that land it was
consolidated into the Tillamook Forest and generates income for
several counties--and a museum.

http://tillamookforestcenter.org/

If you dig through it the website does a pretty good job of
explaining the Forest. One of the odd things the museum mentions is
that during the "Jim Crow era" the logging camps in the area were
not segregated. People lived, worked and played together without
regard to race.

Oceanside is an odd little town that has been there pretty much
forever. There are still a lot of older structures in the middle of
town, including the old post office and a series of small cabins
that has been a motel since motels were invented.

https://visittheoregoncoast.com/cities/oceanside/

The big point of land on the left side of this panoramic view has a
tunnel that has been blasted through it so that people can walk
from one beach to another.

"Explore the Unique Tunnel Beach on the Oregon Coast" https://thatoregonlife.com/2023/05/tunnel-beach/

Over the years it has been opened and closed several times. I have
never walked through there.

Their website doesn't do the Ocean Front Cabins in Oceanside
justice. this website does a better job:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g52003-d1469219-Reviews-Ocean_Front_Cabins-Oceanside_Oregon.html

So, what makes Oceanside a bit odd, even by Oregon coast
standards, is that the small old part of town is surrounded by big
expensive homes covering the hillside around town. This time of
year there are probably more of those big houses than residents.
The town supports a number of small businesses, including several restaurants. It's unlikely that many of the people who work there
also live there.

Je*us H Ch*ist. Now you're starting to use "so".

I had read that the beach there is an excellent place to collect
pretty rocks. I had been skeptical because this is a popular beach.
We happened to be there at an ideal time, when the tide was going
out. As it's going out the ocean mixes the rocks up a lot. So, even
though there were a number of people looking for pretty rocks,
everyone found something. Along with some nice agates we found a
lot of small jadeite stones and some rocks that would be ordinary,
except that they had small bit of jadeite or other rocks imbedded
in them.

One of the things you see from the beach is a big blue house a bit
inland from the tunnel, on top of that big point of land--with a
big red for sale sign on that side of the building. Where that
place sits I suspect that you would need to be able to finance it
yourself. It's unlikely that you could buy landslide insurance for
anything less than the value of the property. The website says the
monthly mortgage payment would only be around $14K.

https://www.movoto.com/oceanside-or/1816-maxwell-mountain-rd-oceanside-or-97134-491_22137300/

So anyhow, I learned a bit more about beach crabbing on a beach
just a bit south of Oceanside. I saw someone who knew what she was
doing catch a keeper and a red rock crab. The red rock crabs are
all keepers if you're into that sort of thing. I did catch one nice
sized keeper from the dock in Garibaldi. I figure that wasn't too
bad, since we only spent a few hours there, mostly during an
unfavorable tide. It has been raining, so crabbing in the bay is
slowing down. It looked like everyone was catching a few nice
keepers and a few that were just a little too small.

Je*us H Ch*ist. You used "so" again.
How long before you start using "like, you know", and start uptalking?........umm...you're not uptalking yet are you?

--
bill
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Technobarbarian wrote:

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:

Technobarbarian wrote:

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:59:23 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:

Technobarbarian wrote:

We made another trip to the coast, with lovely gray
weather, and managed to fit in some attractions we hadn't
seen before. We have been past the Tillamook Forest Center
many times without stopping to see this free attraction.
When they are open, they are only open on a limited
schedule. They closed early in the pandemic and only opened
again recently. The Tillamook Forest is the result of a
series of wildfires and the depression. During the
depression a lot of people couldn't or wouldn't pay the
taxes on burned over forest land. After several counties
foreclosed on that land it was consolidated into the
Tillamook Forest and generates income for several
counties--and a museum.

http://tillamookforestcenter.org/

If you dig through it the website does a pretty good job
of explaining the Forest. One of the odd things the museum
mentions is that during the "Jim Crow era" the logging
camps in the area were not segregated. People lived, worked
and played together without regard to race.

Oceanside is an odd little town that has been there pretty
much forever. There are still a lot of older structures in
the middle of town, including the old post office and a
series of small cabins that has been a motel since motels
were invented.

https://visittheoregoncoast.com/cities/oceanside/

The big point of land on the left side of this panoramic
view has a tunnel that has been blasted through it so that
people can walk from one beach to another.

"Explore the Unique Tunnel Beach on the Oregon Coast"
https://thatoregonlife.com/2023/05/tunnel-beach/

Over the years it has been opened and closed several times.
I have never walked through there.

Their website doesn't do the Ocean Front Cabins in
Oceanside justice. this website does a better job:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g52003-d1469219-Reviews-Ocean_Front_Cabins-Oceanside_Oregon.html

So, what makes Oceanside a bit odd, even by Oregon coast

standards, is that the small old part of town is surrounded
by big expensive homes covering the hillside around town.
This time of year there are probably more of those big
houses than residents. The town supports a number of small
businesses, including several restaurants. It's unlikely
that many of the people who work there also live there.

Je*us H Ch*ist. Now you're starting to use "so".

I had read that the beach there is an excellent place to
collect pretty rocks. I had been skeptical because this is
a popular beach. We happened to be there at an ideal time,
when the tide was going out. As it's going out the ocean
mixes the rocks up a lot. So, even though there were a
number of people looking for pretty rocks, everyone found
something. Along with some nice agates we found a lot of
small jadeite stones and some rocks that would be ordinary,
except that they had small bit of jadeite or other rocks
imbedded in them.

One of the things you see from the beach is a big blue
house a bit inland from the tunnel, on top of that big
point of land--with a big red for sale sign on that side of
the building. Where that place sits I suspect that you
would need to be able to finance it yourself. It's unlikely
that you could buy landslide insurance for anything less
than the value of the property. The website says the
monthly mortgage payment would only be around $14K.

https://www.movoto.com/oceanside-or/1816-maxwell-mountain-rd-oceanside-or-97134-491_22137300/

So anyhow, I learned a bit more about beach crabbing on a beach

just a bit south of Oceanside. I saw someone who knew what
she was doing catch a keeper and a red rock crab. The red
rock crabs are all keepers if you're into that sort of
thing. I did catch one nice sized keeper from the dock in
Garibaldi. I figure that wasn't too bad, since we only
spent a few hours there, mostly during an unfavorable tide.
It has been raining, so crabbing in the bay is slowing
down. It looked like everyone was catching a few nice
keepers and a few that were just a little too small.

Je*us H Ch*ist. You used "so" again. How long before you
start using "like, you know", and start
uptalking?........umm...you're not uptalking yet are you?

-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

?????? I have no idea what you're talking about. As usual, I'm
mostly just faking it, because I'm mostly writing for myself.
You guys are sort of like accident victims. You just happen to
be in the way.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you're not as on
top of things as you might like to think you are. -- bill Theory
don't mean squat if it don't work.

I recently mentioned that I'm essentially living under a figurative
rock. Almost anything that I'm not doing myself comes and goes on
the internet. I'm collecting rocks and eating crabs. My most recent conversations with people other than my wife were about collecting
crabs. How "on top of things" can I be?

That explains a few things.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:59:23 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:

Technobarbarian wrote:

We made another trip to the coast, with lovely gray weather, and
managed to fit in some attractions we hadn't seen before. We have
been past the Tillamook Forest Center many times without stopping
to see this free attraction. When they are open, they are only open
on a limited schedule. They closed early in the pandemic and only
opened again recently. The Tillamook Forest is the result of a
series of wildfires and the depression. During the depression a lot
of people couldn't or wouldn't pay the taxes on burned over forest
land. After several counties foreclosed on that land it was
consolidated into the Tillamook Forest and generates income for
several counties--and a museum.

http://tillamookforestcenter.org/

If you dig through it the website does a pretty good job of
explaining the Forest. One of the odd things the museum mentions is
that during the "Jim Crow era" the logging camps in the area were
not segregated. People lived, worked and played together without
regard to race.

Oceanside is an odd little town that has been there pretty much
forever. There are still a lot of older structures in the middle of
town, including the old post office and a series of small cabins
that has been a motel since motels were invented.

https://visittheoregoncoast.com/cities/oceanside/

The big point of land on the left side of this panoramic view has a
tunnel that has been blasted through it so that people can walk
from one beach to another.

"Explore the Unique Tunnel Beach on the Oregon Coast" https://thatoregonlife.com/2023/05/tunnel-beach/

Over the years it has been opened and closed several times. I have
never walked through there.

Their website doesn't do the Ocean Front Cabins in Oceanside
justice. this website does a better job:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g52003-d1469219-Reviews-Ocean_Front_Cabins-Oceanside_Oregon.html

So, what makes Oceanside a bit odd, even by Oregon coast
standards, is that the small old part of town is surrounded by big expensive homes covering the hillside around town. This time of
year there are probably more of those big houses than residents.
The town supports a number of small businesses, including several restaurants. It's unlikely that many of the people who work there
also live there.

Je*us H Ch*ist. Now you're starting to use "so".

I had read that the beach there is an excellent place to collect
pretty rocks. I had been skeptical because this is a popular beach.
We happened to be there at an ideal time, when the tide was going
out. As it's going out the ocean mixes the rocks up a lot. So, even
though there were a number of people looking for pretty rocks,
everyone found something. Along with some nice agates we found a
lot of small jadeite stones and some rocks that would be ordinary,
except that they had small bit of jadeite or other rocks imbedded
in them.

One of the things you see from the beach is a big blue house a bit
inland from the tunnel, on top of that big point of land--with a
big red for sale sign on that side of the building. Where that
place sits I suspect that you would need to be able to finance it yourself. It's unlikely that you could buy landslide insurance for anything less than the value of the property. The website says the
monthly mortgage payment would only be around $14K.

https://www.movoto.com/oceanside-or/1816-maxwell-mountain-rd-oceanside-or-97134-491_22137300/

So anyhow, I learned a bit more about beach crabbing on a beach
just a bit south of Oceanside. I saw someone who knew what she was
doing catch a keeper and a red rock crab. The red rock crabs are
all keepers if you're into that sort of thing. I did catch one nice
sized keeper from the dock in Garibaldi. I figure that wasn't too
bad, since we only spent a few hours there, mostly during an
unfavorable tide. It has been raining, so crabbing in the bay is
slowing down. It looked like everyone was catching a few nice
keepers and a few that were just a little too small.

Je*us H Ch*ist. You used "so" again.
How long before you start using "like, you know", and start uptalking?........umm...you're not uptalking yet are you?

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

?????? I have no idea what you're talking about. As usual, I'm mostly just faking it, because I'm mostly writing for myself. You guys are sort of like accident victims. You just happen to be in the way.

TB

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On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 4:21:55 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:

Technobarbarian wrote:

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:59:23 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:

Technobarbarian wrote:

We made another trip to the coast, with lovely gray weather,
and managed to fit in some attractions we hadn't seen before.
We have been past the Tillamook Forest Center many times
without stopping to see this free attraction. When they are
open, they are only open on a limited schedule. They closed
early in the pandemic and only opened again recently. The
Tillamook Forest is the result of a series of wildfires and the
depression. During the depression a lot of people couldn't or
wouldn't pay the taxes on burned over forest land. After
several counties foreclosed on that land it was consolidated
into the Tillamook Forest and generates income for several
counties--and a museum.

http://tillamookforestcenter.org/

If you dig through it the website does a pretty good job of
explaining the Forest. One of the odd things the museum
mentions is that during the "Jim Crow era" the logging camps in
the area were not segregated. People lived, worked and played
together without regard to race.

Oceanside is an odd little town that has been there pretty
much forever. There are still a lot of older structures in the
middle of town, including the old post office and a series of
small cabins that has been a motel since motels were invented.

https://visittheoregoncoast.com/cities/oceanside/

The big point of land on the left side of this panoramic view
has a tunnel that has been blasted through it so that people
can walk from one beach to another.

"Explore the Unique Tunnel Beach on the Oregon Coast"
https://thatoregonlife.com/2023/05/tunnel-beach/

Over the years it has been opened and closed several times. I
have never walked through there.

Their website doesn't do the Ocean Front Cabins in Oceanside
justice. this website does a better job:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g52003-d1469219-Reviews-Ocean_Front_Cabins-Oceanside_Oregon.html

So, what makes Oceanside a bit odd, even by Oregon coast

standards, is that the small old part of town is surrounded by
big expensive homes covering the hillside around town. This
time of year there are probably more of those big houses than
residents. The town supports a number of small businesses,
including several restaurants. It's unlikely that many of the
people who work there also live there.

Je*us H Ch*ist. Now you're starting to use "so".

I had read that the beach there is an excellent place to
collect pretty rocks. I had been skeptical because this is a
popular beach. We happened to be there at an ideal time, when
the tide was going out. As it's going out the ocean mixes the
rocks up a lot. So, even though there were a number of people
looking for pretty rocks, everyone found something. Along with
some nice agates we found a lot of small jadeite stones and
some rocks that would be ordinary, except that they had small
bit of jadeite or other rocks imbedded in them.

One of the things you see from the beach is a big blue house a
bit inland from the tunnel, on top of that big point of
land--with a big red for sale sign on that side of the
building. Where that place sits I suspect that you would need
to be able to finance it yourself. It's unlikely that you could
buy landslide insurance for anything less than the value of the
property. The website says the monthly mortgage payment would
only be around $14K.

https://www.movoto.com/oceanside-or/1816-maxwell-mountain-rd-oceanside-or-97134-491_22137300/

So anyhow, I learned a bit more about beach crabbing on a beach

just a bit south of Oceanside. I saw someone who knew what she
was doing catch a keeper and a red rock crab. The red rock
crabs are all keepers if you're into that sort of thing. I did
catch one nice sized keeper from the dock in Garibaldi. I
figure that wasn't too bad, since we only spent a few hours
there, mostly during an unfavorable tide. It has been raining,
so crabbing in the bay is slowing down. It looked like everyone
was catching a few nice keepers and a few that were just a
little too small.

Je*us H Ch*ist. You used "so" again. How long before you start
using "like, you know", and start uptalking?........umm...you're
not uptalking yet are you?

-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

?????? I have no idea what you're talking about. As usual, I'm
mostly just faking it, because I'm mostly writing for myself. You
guys are sort of like accident victims. You just happen to be in
the way.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you're not as on top of things as you might like to think you are.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

I recently mentioned that I'm essentially living under a figurative rock. Almost anything that I'm not doing myself comes and goes on the internet. I'm collecting rocks and eating crabs. My most recent conversations with people other than my wife
were about collecting crabs. How "on top of things" can I be?

TB

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