"The federal government believes that the threat of violence and major civil disturbances around the 2024 U.S. presidential election is so great that it has quietly created a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter: Donald Trump's
army of MAGA followers.

The challenge for the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the primary federal agency charged with law enforcement, is to pursue and prevent what it calls domestic terrorism without direct reference to political parties or affiliations—even though the vast
majority of its current "anti-government" investigations are of Trump supporters, according to classified data obtained by Newsweek.

"The FBI is in an almost impossible position," says a current FBI official, who requested anonymity to discuss highly sensitive internal matters. The official said that the FBI is intent on stopping domestic terrorism and any repeat of the January 6,
2021, attack on the Capitol. But the Bureau must also preserve the Constitutional right of all Americans to campaign, speak freely and protest the government. By focusing on former president Trump and his MAGA (Make America Great Again) supporters, the
official said, the Bureau runs the risk of provoking the very anti-government activists that the terrorism agencies hope to counter."

"Though the FBI's data shows a dip in the number of investigations since the slew of January 6 cases ended, FBI Director Christopher Wray still says that the breach of the Capitol building was "not an isolated event" and the threat is "not going away
anytime soon." In a joint report to Congress this June, the Bureau and the Department of Homeland Security say that "Threats from...DVEs [domestic violent extremists] have increased in the last two years, and any further increases in threats likely will
correspond to potential flashpoints, such as high-profile elections and campaigns or contentious current events."

The FBI and DHS report concludes: "Sociopolitical developments—such as narratives of fraud in the recent general election, the emboldening impact of the violent breach of the U.S. Capitol, conditions related to the COVID-19 pandemic, and conspiracy
theories promoting violence—will almost certainly spur some domestic terrorists to try to engage in violence."

The threats listed in that paragraph are all clearly associated with America's right and in particular with Trump's MAGA supporters. Right after January 6, the FBI co-authored a restricted report ("Domestic Violent Extremists Emboldened in Aftermath of
Capitol Breach, Elevated Domestic Terrorism Threat of Violence Likely Amid Political Transitions and Beyond") in which it shifted the definition of AGAAVE ("anti-government, anti-authority violent extremism") from "furtherance of ideological agendas" to "
furtherance of political and/or social agendas." For the first time, such groups could be so labeled because of their politics."

https://www.newsweek.com/2023/10/13/exclusive-fbi-targets-trump-followers-2024-election-nears-1831836.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1696410357

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On 10/5/2023 9:16 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

"The federal government believes that the threat of violence and major civil disturbances around the 2024 U.S. presidential election is so great that it has quietly created a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter: Donald Trump's

army of MAGA followers.


Glad to see they are following up with the same efforts they applied to
Antifa and Black Lives Matter. Thank you Senor Manuel Ortega Peron
Biden. You make third world dictators proud.

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while I have to get my pecker x-ray'd or get felt up by a TSA agent just
to get on an airplane.

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On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:34:36 AM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:

On 10/5/2023 9:16 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

"The federal government believes that the threat of violence and major civil disturbances around the 2024 U.S. presidential election is so great that it has quietly created a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter: Donald Trump'

s army of MAGA followers.

Glad to see they are following up with the same efforts they applied to Antifa and Black Lives Matter. Thank you Senor Manuel Ortega Peron
Biden. You make third world dictators proud.

hmmmmmm.....The BLM movement probably gets a lower priority because they aren't trying to overthrow the government. So they wouldn't fall under AGAAVE-other. One of the sad things about both of these movements is that the majority of the
participants are peaceful, law abiding citizens. Most of the people who listened to #45"s speech on January 6th did not participate in the riot in any way. The same goes for the BLM people. But, it is all remembered for the violence. Another difference?
The BLM protests ended because most of their leaders are opposed to violence. While their leader is encouraging the magaloons to become more violent.

"Twice in the past two weeks, Donald Trump has suggested violent consequences for those who dare to cross him.

Mark Milley, the outgoing chairman of the joint chiefs of staff? He deserves to be executed, Trump charged. Milley’s backchannel communications, intended to reassure Chinese military leaders before and after the 2020 election, amounted to a treasonous
act “so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH!”

And Letitia James, the New York attorney general who filed a damaging civil fraud case against Trump? He didn’t stop at calling her “corrupt and racist”.

“I don’t think the people of this country are going to stand for it … This is a disgrace. And you ought to go after this attorney general,” he said publicly on his way into the courtroom this week.

As always, Trump walks right up to the line. He didn’t quite say “execute Milley” or “assassinate Letitia James”. But he comes perilously close, and some prominent legal experts think he has moved past free speech and into criminality.

“Trump’s first amendment freedom of speech includes the right to express his racist views about anyone, including attorney general Letitia James,” wrote Lawrence Tribe, the Harvard Law School emeritus professor. “But he has no right to foment
violence against her. He crossed the line into criminal threats when he said ‘you ought to go after this attorney general.’”"
[snip]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/04/trump-escalating-violent-rhetoric-autocratic-playbook

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Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 11:34:36 AM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:

On 10/5/2023 9:16 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:

"The federal government believes that the threat of violence and major
civil disturbances around the 2024 U.S. presidential election is so
great that it has quietly created a new category of extremists that it
seeks to track and counter: Donald Trump's army of MAGA followers.

Glad to see they are following up with the same efforts they applied to
Antifa and Black Lives Matter. Thank you Senor Manuel Ortega Peron
Biden. You make third world dictators proud.

hmmmmmm.....The BLM movement probably gets a lower priority
because they aren't trying to overthrow the government. So they wouldn't
fall under AGAAVE-other. One of the sad things about both of these
movements is that the majority of the participants are peaceful, law
abiding citizens. Most of the people who listened to #45"s speech on
January 6th did not participate in the riot in any way. The same goes for
the BLM people. But, it is all remembered for the violence. Another difference? The BLM protests ended because most of their leaders are
opposed to violence. While their leader is encouraging the magaloons to become more violent.

"Twice in the past two weeks, Donald Trump has suggested violent
consequences for those who dare to cross him.

Mark Milley, the outgoing chairman of the joint chiefs of staff? He
deserves to be executed, Trump charged. Milley’s backchannel communications, intended to reassure Chinese military leaders before and after the 2020 election, amounted to a treasonous act “so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH!”

And Letitia James, the New York attorney general who filed a damaging
civil fraud case against Trump? He didn’t stop at calling her “corrupt and racist”.

“I don’t think the people of this country are going to stand for it … This is a disgrace. And you ought to go after this attorney general,” he said publicly on his way into the courtroom this week.

As always, Trump walks right up to the line. He didn’t quite say “execute Milley” or “assassinate Letitia James”. But he comes perilously close, and some prominent legal experts think he has moved past free speech and into

“Trump’s first amendment freedom of speech includes the right to express his racist views about anyone, including attorney general Letitia James,” wrote Lawrence Tribe, the Harvard Law School emeritus professor. “But he has no right to foment violence against her. He crossed the line into criminal threats when he said ‘you ought to go after this attorney general.’”"
[snip]

First of all, MAGA republicans (in the context you looney liberals use it),
is a meaningless and made up name by you NAGA dimocrats trying to discredit
all republicans. Second, republicans are not trying to overthrow the
current dictatorship. They are trying to convince people to oust them via
the vote. That would be legal vote, not stuffed drop boxes.

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