• Scott Hall asks for a small plate of spaghetti, and offers to share

    From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 29 16:23:11 2023
    "
    One of former President Donald Trump’s co-defendants has pleaded guilty to five counts in the 2020 election subversion case in Georgia.

    Bail bondsman Scott Hall, 59, is the first defendant in the case brought by the Fulton County district attorney’s office to take a plea agreement with prosecutors.

    The agreement, entered in Fulton County Superior Court on Friday afternoon, recommends a sentence of five years probation.

    Hall was accused of conspiring to unlawfully access voter data and ballot counting machines at the Coffee County election office on January 7, 2021.

    He spent hours inside a restricted area of the election office when voting systems were breached, which was connected to efforts by pro-Trump conspiracy theorists to find voter fraud. Hall was captured on surveillance video at the office on the day of
    the breach. He testified before the special grand jury in the Fulton County case and acknowledged that he gained access to a voting machine.

    The sprawling racketeering case brought last month by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis accused Hall, Trump, and 17 others of participating in a broad conspiracy to overturn the election results in the Peach State.

    Trump and the remaining 17 defendants have pleaded not guilty.

    Prosecutors in Willis’ office signaled earlier Friday that they may soon extend a plea deal to one or both of the two defendants headed to trial."

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/29/politics/fulton-county-election-plea-scott-hall/index.html

    "Under the terms of the deal, Mr. Hall is to pay a $5,000 fine, surrender his firearms carry license, perform 200 hours of community service and write a letter of apology to the people of Georgia. He is not to participate in any activities related to the
    administration of elections, and he agreed to testify truthfully against other co-defendants if called upon to do so."

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Sep 29 19:50:36 2023
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    " One of former President Donald Trump’s co-defendants has
    pleaded guilty to five counts in the 2020 election subversion case
    in Georgia.

    Bail bondsman Scott Hall, 59, is the first defendant in the case
    brought by the Fulton County district attorney’s office to take a
    plea agreement with prosecutors.

    The agreement, entered in Fulton County Superior Court on Friday
    afternoon, recommends a sentence of five years probation.

    Hall was accused of conspiring to unlawfully access voter data and
    ballot counting machines at the Coffee County election office on
    January 7, 2021.

    He spent hours inside a restricted area of the election office when
    voting systems were breached, which was connected to efforts by
    pro-Trump conspiracy theorists to find voter fraud. Hall was
    captured on surveillance video at the office on the day of the
    breach. He testified before the special grand jury in the Fulton
    County case and acknowledged that he gained access to a voting
    machine.

    The sprawling racketeering case brought last month by Fulton County
    District Attorney Fani Willis accused Hall, Trump, and 17 others of participating in a broad conspiracy to overturn the election
    results in the Peach State.

    Trump and the remaining 17 defendants have pleaded not guilty.

    Prosecutors in Willis’ office signaled earlier Friday that they
    may soon extend a plea deal to one or both of the two defendants
    headed to trial."

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/29/politics/fulton-county-election-plea-scott-hall/index.html

    "Under the terms of the deal, Mr. Hall is to pay a $5,000 fine,
    surrender his firearms carry license, perform 200 hours of
    community service and write a letter of apology to the people of
    Georgia. He is not to participate in any activities related to the administration of elections, and he agreed to testify truthfully
    against other co-defendants if called upon to do so."


    That might get interesting - for legal experts. GA no longer requires
    a license to carry. However comma if he wants to carry in a
    reciprocity state, he may have a problem. However comma again I've
    carried in almost every state* and have never been asked to produce a
    gun license.
    *I'm reasonably sure that I've never carried in ND or HI or AK.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From robert caprel@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Sep 29 17:24:10 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 4:23:13 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    "
    One of former President Donald Trump’s co-defendants has pleaded guilty to five counts in the 2020 election subversion case in Georgia.

    Bail bondsman Scott Hall, 59, is the first defendant in the case brought by the Fulton County district attorney’s office to take a plea agreement with prosecutors.

    The agreement, entered in Fulton County Superior Court on Friday afternoon, recommends a sentence of five years probation.

    Hall was accused of conspiring to unlawfully access voter data and ballot counting machines at the Coffee County election office on January 7, 2021.

    He spent hours inside a restricted area of the election office when voting systems were breached, which was connected to efforts by pro-Trump conspiracy theorists to find voter fraud. Hall was captured on surveillance video at the office on the day of
    the breach. He testified before the special grand jury in the Fulton County case and acknowledged that he gained access to a voting machine.

    The sprawling racketeering case brought last month by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis accused Hall, Trump, and 17 others of participating in a broad conspiracy to overturn the election results in the Peach State.

    Trump and the remaining 17 defendants have pleaded not guilty.

    Prosecutors in Willis’ office signaled earlier Friday that they may soon extend a plea deal to one or both of the two defendants headed to trial."

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/29/politics/fulton-county-election-plea-scott-hall/index.html

    "Under the terms of the deal, Mr. Hall is to pay a $5,000 fine, surrender his firearms carry license, perform 200 hours of community service and write a letter of apology to the people of Georgia. He is not to participate in any activities related to
    the administration of elections, and he agreed to testify truthfully against other co-defendants if called upon to do so."

    TB

    The Domminos are falling only 18 to go

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Fri Sep 29 18:46:47 2023
    On 9/29/2023 4:23 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    "
    One of former President Donald Trump’s co-defendants has pleaded guilty to five counts in the 2020 election subversion case in Georgia.

    Bail bondsman Scott Hall, 59, is the first defendant in the case brought by the Fulton County district attorney’s office to take a plea agreement with prosecutors.

    The agreement, entered in Fulton County Superior Court on Friday afternoon, recommends a sentence of five years probation.

    Hall was accused of conspiring to unlawfully access voter data and ballot counting machines at the Coffee County election office on January 7, 2021.

    He spent hours inside a restricted area of the election office when voting systems were breached, which was connected to efforts by pro-Trump conspiracy theorists to find voter fraud. Hall was captured on surveillance video at the office on the day of
    the breach. He testified before the special grand jury in the Fulton County case and acknowledged that he gained access to a voting machine.

    The sprawling racketeering case brought last month by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis accused Hall, Trump, and 17 others of participating in a broad conspiracy to overturn the election results in the Peach State.

    Trump and the remaining 17 defendants have pleaded not guilty.

    Prosecutors in Willis’ office signaled earlier Friday that they may soon extend a plea deal to one or both of the two defendants headed to trial."

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/29/politics/fulton-county-election-plea-scott-hall/index.html

    "Under the terms of the deal, Mr. Hall is to pay a $5,000 fine, surrender his firearms carry license, perform 200 hours of community service and write a letter of apology to the people of Georgia. He is not to participate in any activities related to
    the administration of elections, and he agreed to testify truthfully against other co-defendants if called upon to do so."

    TB

    I'm kind of surprised he didn't try the good old retrumplican, "I was
    just a tourist" defense against those obviously weaponized politically motivated witch hunt charges... HawHawHaw!

    --
    Lie down with spaghetti, get covered in tomato sauce.

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  • From Don Lampson@21:1/5 to kmiller on Fri Sep 29 22:08:01 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 6:46:56 PM UTC-7, kmiller wrote:
    On 9/29/2023 4:23 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    "
    One of former President Donald Trump’s co-defendants has pleaded guilty to five counts in the 2020 election subversion case in Georgia.

    Bail bondsman Scott Hall, 59, is the first defendant in the case brought by the Fulton County district attorney’s office to take a plea agreement with prosecutors.

    The agreement, entered in Fulton County Superior Court on Friday afternoon, recommends a sentence of five years probation.

    Hall was accused of conspiring to unlawfully access voter data and ballot counting machines at the Coffee County election office on January 7, 2021.

    He spent hours inside a restricted area of the election office when voting systems were breached, which was connected to efforts by pro-Trump conspiracy theorists to find voter fraud. Hall was captured on surveillance video at the office on the day
    of the breach. He testified before the special grand jury in the Fulton County case and acknowledged that he gained access to a voting machine.

    The sprawling racketeering case brought last month by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis accused Hall, Trump, and 17 others of participating in a broad conspiracy to overturn the election results in the Peach State.

    Trump and the remaining 17 defendants have pleaded not guilty.

    Prosecutors in Willis’ office signaled earlier Friday that they may soon extend a plea deal to one or both of the two defendants headed to trial."

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/29/politics/fulton-county-election-plea-scott-hall/index.html

    "Under the terms of the deal, Mr. Hall is to pay a $5,000 fine, surrender his firearms carry license, perform 200 hours of community service and write a letter of apology to the people of Georgia. He is not to participate in any activities related to
    the administration of elections, and he agreed to testify truthfully against other co-defendants if called upon to do so."

    TB
    I'm kind of surprised he didn't try the good old retrumplican, "I was
    just a tourist" defense against those obviously weaponized politically motivated witch hunt charges... HawHawHaw!

    --
    Lie down with spaghetti, get covered in tomato sauce.

    I'd guess as a bail bondsman, he realized a fantastic deal when it was offered? I hope he'll give insight into others besides just his "crimmies, who were " filmed inside where the votes were tallied?

    Lady Justice Jr.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat Sep 30 06:52:16 2023
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 4:50:41 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    " One of former President Donald Trump’s co-defendants has
    pleaded guilty to five counts in the 2020 election subversion case
    in Georgia.

    Bail bondsman Scott Hall, 59, is the first defendant in the case
    brought by the Fulton County district attorney’s office to take a plea agreement with prosecutors.

    The agreement, entered in Fulton County Superior Court on Friday afternoon, recommends a sentence of five years probation.

    Hall was accused of conspiring to unlawfully access voter data and
    ballot counting machines at the Coffee County election office on
    January 7, 2021.

    He spent hours inside a restricted area of the election office when
    voting systems were breached, which was connected to efforts by
    pro-Trump conspiracy theorists to find voter fraud. Hall was
    captured on surveillance video at the office on the day of the
    breach. He testified before the special grand jury in the Fulton
    County case and acknowledged that he gained access to a voting
    machine.

    The sprawling racketeering case brought last month by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis accused Hall, Trump, and 17 others of participating in a broad conspiracy to overturn the election
    results in the Peach State.

    Trump and the remaining 17 defendants have pleaded not guilty.

    Prosecutors in Willis’ office signaled earlier Friday that they
    may soon extend a plea deal to one or both of the two defendants
    headed to trial."

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/29/politics/fulton-county-election-plea-scott-hall/index.html

    "Under the terms of the deal, Mr. Hall is to pay a $5,000 fine,
    surrender his firearms carry license, perform 200 hours of
    community service and write a letter of apology to the people of
    Georgia. He is not to participate in any activities related to the administration of elections, and he agreed to testify truthfully
    against other co-defendants if called upon to do so."
    That might get interesting - for legal experts. GA no longer requires
    a license to carry. However comma if he wants to carry in a
    reciprocity state, he may have a problem. However comma again I've
    carried in almost every state* and have never been asked to produce a
    gun license.
    *I'm reasonably sure that I've never carried in ND or HI or AK.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Before they are released probationers have to agree to all sorts of conditions. One of them is usually that the probation department can search him, his home and his vehicles any time they feel like it. If he's half smart Mr. Hall will be living
    very carefully for the next 5 years.

    TB

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  • From robert caprel@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sat Sep 30 07:35:42 2023
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 6:52:18 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 4:50:41 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    " One of former President Donald Trump’s co-defendants has pleaded guilty to five counts in the 2020 election subversion case
    in Georgia.

    Bail bondsman Scott Hall, 59, is the first defendant in the case
    brought by the Fulton County district attorney’s office to take a plea agreement with prosecutors.

    The agreement, entered in Fulton County Superior Court on Friday afternoon, recommends a sentence of five years probation.

    Hall was accused of conspiring to unlawfully access voter data and ballot counting machines at the Coffee County election office on
    January 7, 2021.

    He spent hours inside a restricted area of the election office when voting systems were breached, which was connected to efforts by pro-Trump conspiracy theorists to find voter fraud. Hall was
    captured on surveillance video at the office on the day of the
    breach. He testified before the special grand jury in the Fulton
    County case and acknowledged that he gained access to a voting
    machine.

    The sprawling racketeering case brought last month by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis accused Hall, Trump, and 17 others of participating in a broad conspiracy to overturn the election
    results in the Peach State.

    Trump and the remaining 17 defendants have pleaded not guilty.

    Prosecutors in Willis’ office signaled earlier Friday that they may soon extend a plea deal to one or both of the two defendants
    headed to trial."

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/29/politics/fulton-county-election-plea-scott-hall/index.html

    "Under the terms of the deal, Mr. Hall is to pay a $5,000 fine, surrender his firearms carry license, perform 200 hours of
    community service and write a letter of apology to the people of Georgia. He is not to participate in any activities related to the administration of elections, and he agreed to testify truthfully
    against other co-defendants if called upon to do so."
    That might get interesting - for legal experts. GA no longer requires
    a license to carry. However comma if he wants to carry in a
    reciprocity state, he may have a problem. However comma again I've
    carried in almost every state* and have never been asked to produce a
    gun license.
    *I'm reasonably sure that I've never carried in ND or HI or AK.

    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
    Before they are released probationers have to agree to all sorts of conditions. One of them is usually that the probation department can search him, his home and his vehicles any time they feel like it. If he's half smart Mr. Hall will be living very
    carefully for the next 5 years.

    TB

    The most important condition will be no alcohol and no associating with other felons, this two are the ones most often violated, mind you I can see the game plan here most of the rest will jump at this and plead guilty believing all they will get is
    probation and be surprised when the actual judgement comes down harsh, the real holdouts are the ones with the heavy jail time. It’s the carrot and stick justice.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to robert caprel on Sat Sep 30 09:21:27 2023
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 7:35:44 AM UTC-7, robert caprel wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 6:52:18 AM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 4:50:41 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    " One of former President Donald Trump’s co-defendants has pleaded guilty to five counts in the 2020 election subversion case
    in Georgia.

    Bail bondsman Scott Hall, 59, is the first defendant in the case brought by the Fulton County district attorney’s office to take a
    plea agreement with prosecutors.

    The agreement, entered in Fulton County Superior Court on Friday afternoon, recommends a sentence of five years probation.

    Hall was accused of conspiring to unlawfully access voter data and ballot counting machines at the Coffee County election office on January 7, 2021.

    He spent hours inside a restricted area of the election office when voting systems were breached, which was connected to efforts by pro-Trump conspiracy theorists to find voter fraud. Hall was
    captured on surveillance video at the office on the day of the
    breach. He testified before the special grand jury in the Fulton County case and acknowledged that he gained access to a voting machine.

    The sprawling racketeering case brought last month by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis accused Hall, Trump, and 17 others of participating in a broad conspiracy to overturn the election
    results in the Peach State.

    Trump and the remaining 17 defendants have pleaded not guilty.

    Prosecutors in Willis’ office signaled earlier Friday that they may soon extend a plea deal to one or both of the two defendants headed to trial."

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/29/politics/fulton-county-election-plea-scott-hall/index.html

    "Under the terms of the deal, Mr. Hall is to pay a $5,000 fine, surrender his firearms carry license, perform 200 hours of
    community service and write a letter of apology to the people of Georgia. He is not to participate in any activities related to the administration of elections, and he agreed to testify truthfully against other co-defendants if called upon to do so."
    That might get interesting - for legal experts. GA no longer requires
    a license to carry. However comma if he wants to carry in a
    reciprocity state, he may have a problem. However comma again I've carried in almost every state* and have never been asked to produce a gun license.
    *I'm reasonably sure that I've never carried in ND or HI or AK.

    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
    Before they are released probationers have to agree to all sorts of conditions. One of them is usually that the probation department can search him, his home and his vehicles any time they feel like it. If he's half smart Mr. Hall will be living very
    carefully for the next 5 years.

    TB
    The most important condition will be no alcohol and no associating with other felons, this two are the ones most often violated, mind you I can see the game plan here most of the rest will jump at this and plead guilty believing all they will get is
    probation and be surprised when the actual judgement comes down harsh, the real holdouts are the ones with the heavy jail time. It’s the carrot and stick justice.

    I don't know what they're doing these days, but, in the past here, the no alcohol provision was usually only applied if the crime had involved drugs or alcohol in some way, or if the probationer had a history of drug use or alcohol problems of any
    sort. It would otherwise be unusual in this case for one simple reason. At this point Mr. Hall is not a felon. He pled guilty to misdemeanors. His probation will probably not interfere with his profession. Even if he violates his probation the worst
    that could happen is a year in the county jail. That isn't likely, unless he seriously screws up.

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sat Sep 30 13:13:07 2023
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 7:35:44 AM UTC-7, robert
    caprel wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 6:52:18 AM UTC-7,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 4:50:41 PM UTC-7, bfh
    wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    " One of former President Donald Trump’s
    co-defendants has pleaded guilty to five counts in the 2020
    election subversion case in Georgia.

    Bail bondsman Scott Hall, 59, is the first defendant in the
    case brought by the Fulton County district
    attorney’s office to take a plea agreement with
    prosecutors.

    The agreement, entered in Fulton County Superior Court on
    Friday afternoon, recommends a sentence of five years
    probation.

    Hall was accused of conspiring to unlawfully access voter
    data and ballot counting machines at the Coffee County
    election office on January 7, 2021.

    He spent hours inside a restricted area of the election
    office when voting systems were breached, which was
    connected to efforts by pro-Trump conspiracy theorists to
    find voter fraud. Hall was captured on surveillance video
    at the office on the day of the breach. He testified before
    the special grand jury in the Fulton County case and
    acknowledged that he gained access to a voting machine.

    The sprawling racketeering case brought last month by
    Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis accused Hall,
    Trump, and 17 others of participating in a broad conspiracy
    to overturn the election results in the Peach State.

    Trump and the remaining 17 defendants have pleaded not
    guilty.

    Prosecutors in Willis’ office signaled earlier
    Friday that they may soon extend a plea deal to one or both
    of the two defendants headed to trial."

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/29/politics/fulton-county-election-plea-scott-hall/index.html



    "Under the terms of the deal, Mr. Hall is to pay a $5,000 fine,
    surrender his firearms carry license, perform 200 hours of
    community service and write a letter of apology to the
    people of Georgia. He is not to participate in any
    activities related to the administration of elections, and
    he agreed to testify truthfully against other co-defendants
    if called upon to do so."
    That might get interesting - for legal experts. GA no longer
    requires a license to carry. However comma if he wants to
    carry in a reciprocity state, he may have a problem. However
    comma again I've carried in almost every state* and have
    never been asked to produce a gun license. *I'm reasonably
    sure that I've never carried in ND or HI or AK.

    bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
    Before they are released probationers have to agree to all
    sorts of conditions. One of them is usually that the probation
    department can search him, his home and his vehicles any time
    they feel like it. If he's half smart Mr. Hall will be living
    very carefully for the next 5 years.

    TB
    The most important condition will be no alcohol and no
    associating with other felons, this two are the ones most often
    violated, mind you I can see the game plan here most of the rest
    will jump at this and plead guilty believing all they will get is
    probation and be surprised when the actual judgement comes down
    harsh, the real holdouts are the ones with the heavy jail time.
    It’s the carrot and stick justice.

    I don't know what they're doing these days, but, in the past here,
    the no alcohol provision was usually only applied if the crime had
    involved drugs or alcohol in some way, or if the probationer had a
    history of drug use or alcohol problems of any sort. It would
    otherwise be unusual in this case for one simple reason. At this
    point Mr. Hall is not a felon. He pled guilty to misdemeanors. His
    probation will probably not interfere with his profession. Even if
    he violates his probation the worst that could happen is a year in
    the county jail. That isn't likely, unless he seriously screws up.

    And because it's misdemeanors and not felonies, it will be as I said - interesting for legal experts - which I'm pretty sure none of us are. Depending on the exact terms of the plea deal, he may or may not be
    able to carry a gun in GA - which as of recently, requires no license
    - and he may or may not be able to possess a gun in his home (or car)
    without a license, which has never required a license for as far back
    as I can remember.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat Sep 30 16:12:21 2023
    On 9/30/2023 12:13 PM, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 7:35:44 AM UTC-7, robert
    caprel wrote:
    On Saturday, September 30, 2023 at 6:52:18 AM UTC-7,
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 4:50:41 PM UTC-7, bfh
    wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    " One of former President Donald Trump’s
    co-defendants has pleaded guilty to five counts in the 2020
    election subversion case in Georgia.

    Bail bondsman Scott Hall, 59, is the first defendant in the
    case brought by the Fulton County district
    attorney’s office to take a plea agreement with
    prosecutors.

    The agreement, entered in Fulton County Superior Court on
    Friday afternoon, recommends a sentence of five years
    probation.

    Hall was accused of conspiring to unlawfully access voter
    data and ballot counting machines at the Coffee County
    election office on January 7, 2021.

    He spent hours inside a restricted area of the election
    office when voting systems were breached, which was
    connected to efforts by pro-Trump conspiracy theorists to
    find voter fraud. Hall was captured on surveillance video
    at the office on the day of the breach. He testified before
    the special grand jury in the Fulton County case and
    acknowledged that he gained access to a voting machine.

    The sprawling racketeering case brought last month by
    Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis accused Hall,
    Trump, and 17 others of participating in a broad conspiracy
    to overturn the election results in the Peach State.

    Trump and the remaining 17 defendants have pleaded not
    guilty.

    Prosecutors in Willis’ office signaled earlier
    Friday that they may soon extend a plea deal to one or both
    of the two defendants headed to trial."

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/29/politics/fulton-county-election-plea-scott-hall/index.html



    "Under the terms of the deal, Mr. Hall is to pay a $5,000 fine,
    surrender his firearms carry license, perform 200 hours of
    community service and write a letter of apology to the
    people of Georgia. He is not to participate in any
    activities related to the administration of elections, and
    he agreed to testify truthfully against other co-defendants
    if called upon to do so."
    That might get interesting - for legal experts. GA no longer
    requires a license to carry. However comma if he wants to
    carry in a reciprocity state, he may have a problem. However
    comma again I've carried in almost every state* and have
    never been asked to produce a gun license. *I'm reasonably
    sure that I've never carried in ND or HI or AK.

    bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
    Before they are released probationers have to agree to all
    sorts of conditions. One of them is usually that the probation
    department can search him, his home and his vehicles any time
    they feel like it. If he's half smart Mr. Hall will be living
    very carefully for the next 5 years.

    TB
    The most important condition will be no alcohol and no
    associating with other felons, this two are the ones most often
    violated, mind you I can see the game plan here most of the rest
    will jump at this and plead guilty believing all they will get is
    probation and be surprised when the actual judgement comes down
    harsh, the real holdouts are the ones with the heavy jail time.
    It’s the carrot and stick justice.

    I don't know what they're doing these days, but, in the past here,
    the no alcohol provision was usually only applied if the crime had
    involved drugs or alcohol in some way, or if the probationer had a
    history of drug use or alcohol problems of any sort. It would
    otherwise be unusual in this case for one simple reason.  At this
    point Mr. Hall is not a felon. He pled guilty to misdemeanors. His
    probation will probably not interfere with his profession. Even if
    he violates his probation the worst that could happen is a year in
    the county jail. That isn't likely, unless he seriously screws up.

    And because it's misdemeanors and not felonies, it will be as I said - interesting for legal experts - which I'm pretty sure none of us are. Depending on the exact terms of the plea deal, he may or may not be able
    to carry a gun in GA - which as of recently, requires no license - and
    he may or may not be able to possess a gun in his home (or car) without
    a license, which has never required a license for as far back as I can remember.


    I used to carry daily until I lost my gun in a boating accident.
    --
    Thousands of unchecked illegal aliens are crossing the border all the
    while I have to get my pecker x-ray'd or get felt up by a TSA agent just
    to get on an airplane.

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