Yeah, this guy is an all American hero. The only thing he cares about is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US history, calls on Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund these political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TB
On 9/21/2023 10:19 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
Yeah, this guy is an all American hero. The only thing he cares about is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US history, calls on Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund these political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TBBut, wait! How can that be? They want justice and support law
enforcement, don't they? HawHawHaw!
Yeah, this guy is an all American hero. The only thing he cares about
is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US history, calls on Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund these political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TB
Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, this guy is an all American hero. The only thing he cares about >> is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US history, calls on
Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund these
political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TB
A government shut down is always a good thing regardless of which side you are on.
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, this guy is an all American hero. The only thing he cares >>> about
is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US history, calls on
Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund these
political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TB
A government shut down is always a good thing regardless of which side
you
are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've been diagnosed by our resident psychiatrist with having problems with the English language, so
I'll just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly concise -
description of my opinion also.
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
    Yeah, this guy is an all American hero. The only thing he
cares about
is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US history,
calls on
Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund
these
political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TB
A government shut down is always a good thing regardless of which
side you
are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've been diagnosed by
our resident psychiatrist with having problems with the English
language, so I'll just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly
concise - description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing and a Google
expert?
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
    Yeah, this guy is an all American hero. The only thing he
cares about
is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US history,
calls on
Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund these >>>>> political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TB
A government shut down is always a good thing regardless of which
side you
are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've been diagnosed by our
resident psychiatrist with having problems with the English language,
so I'll just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly concise -
description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing and a Google
expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to figure that out, because a lot of the tools in my toolbox have been lost or stolen -
which is only part of the problem because I seem to have also
transitorily misplaced my table.
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
    Yeah, this guy is an all American hero. The
only thing he cares about
is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US history,
calls on
Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund
these
political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TB
A government shut down is always a good thing regardless of which
side you
are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've been diagnosed by
our resident psychiatrist with having problems with the English
language, so I'll just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly
concise - description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing and a Google
expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to figure that
out, because a lot of the tools in my toolbox have been lost or
stolen - which is only part of the problem because I seem to have
also transitorily misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
    Yeah, this guy is an all American hero. The only
thing he cares about
is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US history,
calls on
Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund >>>>>>> these
political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TB
A government shut down is always a good thing regardless of which
side you
are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've been diagnosed by
our resident psychiatrist with having problems with the English
language, so I'll just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly
concise - description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing and a Google
expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to figure that
out, because a lot of the tools in my toolbox have been lost or
stolen - which is only part of the problem because I seem to have
also transitorily misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts and performs a
lot like some Real People in here. And you should at least try to spell
its self-identified name correctly. If it should happen to crawl RORT
and see your blatant disrespect, it might go find a safe space.
On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
    Yeah, this guy is an all
American hero. The only thing he cares about
is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US history, >>>>>>>> calls on
Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can
'defund these
political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TB
A government shut down is always a good thing regardless of
which side you
are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've been diagnosed
by our resident psychiatrist with having problems with the
English language, so I'll just say that's a pretty good - and
pleasantly concise - description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing and a
Google expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to figure
that out, because a lot of the tools in my toolbox have been lost
or stolen - which is only part of the problem because I seem to
have also transitorily misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts and
performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you should at
least try to spell its self-identified name correctly. If it should
happen to crawl RORT and see your blatant disrespect, it might go
find a safe space.
As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should be OK.
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
    Yeah, this guy is an all
American hero. The only thing he cares about
is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US history, >>>>>>>>> calls on
Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can
'defund these
political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TB
A government shut down is always a good thing regardless of
which side you
are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've been diagnosed by >>>>>>> our resident psychiatrist with having problems with the English
language, so I'll just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly >>>>>>> concise - description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing and a Google >>>>>> expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to figure that
out, because a lot of the tools in my toolbox have been lost or
stolen - which is only part of the problem because I seem to have
also transitorily misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts and
performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you should at least
try to spell its self-identified name correctly. If it should happen
to crawl RORT and see your blatant disrespect, it might go find a
safe space.
As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should be OK.
It can't cross the border - the border is secure.
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
    Yeah, this guy is an all
American hero. The only thing he cares about
is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US history, >>>>>>>>> calls on
Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can
'defund these
political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TB
A government shut down is always a good thing regardless of
which side you
are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've been diagnosed by >>>>>>> our resident psychiatrist with having problems with the English
language, so I'll just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly >>>>>>> concise - description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing and a Google >>>>>> expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to figure that
out, because a lot of the tools in my toolbox have been lost or
stolen - which is only part of the problem because I seem to have
also transitorily misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts and
performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you should at least
try to spell its self-identified name correctly. If it should happen
to crawl RORT and see your blatant disrespect, it might go find a
safe space.
As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should be OK.
It can't cross the border - the border is secure.
On 9/23/2023 9:58 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
   ÂÂÂÂ
Yeah, this guy is an all American hero. The only thing he >>>>>>>>>> cares about
is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US
history, calls on
Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can
'defund these
political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TB
A government shut down is always a good thing regardless of >>>>>>>>> which side you
are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've been diagnosed >>>>>>>> by our resident psychiatrist with having problems with the
English language, so I'll just say that's a pretty good - and >>>>>>>> pleasantly concise - description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing and a
Google expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to figure
that out, because a lot of the tools in my toolbox have been
lost or stolen - which is only part of the problem because I
seem to have also transitorily misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts and
performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you should at
least try to spell its self-identified name correctly. If it
should happen to crawl RORT and see your blatant disrespect, it
might go find a safe space.
As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should be OK.
It can't cross the border - the border is secure.
Of course it is. Look at all the work the retrumplicans are doing in Congress to secure it. Oh, wait. HqwHawHaw!
On 9/23/2023 9:58 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
    Yeah, this guy is an all
American hero. The only thing he cares about
is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown in US history, >>>>>>>>> calls on
Republicans to let it happen again in 9 days so they can
'defund these
political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
TB
A government shut down is always a good thing regardless of >>>>>>>> which side you
are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've been diagnosed by >>>>>>> our resident psychiatrist with having problems with the English >>>>>>> language, so I'll just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly >>>>>>> concise - description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing and a Google >>>>>> expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to figure that >>>>> out, because a lot of the tools in my toolbox have been lost or
stolen - which is only part of the problem because I seem to have >>>>> also transitorily misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts and
performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you should at least >>> try to spell its self-identified name correctly. If it should happen
to crawl RORT and see your blatant disrespect, it might go find a
safe space.
As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should be OK.
It can't cross the border - the border is secure.
Of course it is. Look at all the work the retrumplicans are doing in Congress to secure it. Oh, wait. HqwHawHaw!
The number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been relatively stable for a long time at around 12 million people.
On 9/24/2023 10:10 AM, TechnoBoob wrote:
The number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been
relatively stable for a long time at around 12 million people.
And next, the Boob will tell us pigs can fly!
On 9/24/2023 10:10 AM, TechnoBoob wrote:
The number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been relatively stable for a long time at around 12 million people.And next, the Boob will tell us pigs can fly!
sticks <wolve...@charter.net> wrote:
On 9/24/2023 10:10 AM, TechnoBoob wrote:
The number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been
relatively stable for a long time at around 12 million people.
And next, the Boob will tell us pigs can fly!
The king of google strikes again. If they are “undocumented” illegals (not
immigrants) how does anyone know how many there are. Also, unless they are dying at an alarming rate after they get here, how can the numbers not be increasing? They are pouring over the border like water over a failed dam.
I can’t believe liberals are that ignorant. Especially the self-described all-seeing, all-knowing, all googling, Señor smoke and mirrors.
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 7:48:01 PM UTC-7, kmillerTB
wrote:
On 9/23/2023 9:58 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
 ÂÂÂ
  Yeah,
this guy is an all American hero. The only
thing he cares about is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown
in US history, calls on Republicans to let it
happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund
these political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
Of course it is. Look at all the work the retrumplicans are doing
A government shut down is always a good thing
regardless of which side you are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've
been diagnosed by our resident psychiatrist with
having problems with the English language, so I'll
just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly
concise - description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing
and a Google expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to
figure that out, because a lot of the tools in my
toolbox have been lost or stolen - which is only part
of the problem because I seem to have also transitorily
misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts
and performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you
should at least try to spell its self-identified name
correctly. If it should happen to crawl RORT and see your
blatant disrespect, it might go find a safe space.
As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should
be OK.
It can't cross the border - the border is secure.
in Congress to secure it. Oh, wait. HqwHawHaw!
It's not like the retrumplicans haven't done anything. They have
been grandstanding on the issue with a border bill that has no
chance of passing. As usual they can't find any way to find common
ground with the Democrats, so they just stand by and wring their
hands. Shit, if they compromise it might look like Biden won one.
"May 11, 2023 House Republicans pushed through a sweeping border
security bill on Thursday that would crack down on unlawful
immigration, blowing past solid Democratic opposition and narrowly
avoiding an embarrassing mutiny within their own ranks on one of
their signature midterm campaign promises.
Republicans timed approval of the measure, which has no chance in
the Democratic-led Senate, to spotlight their hard-line stance on
immigration just as President Biden is facing a potential border
surge with Thursday night’s expiration of Title 42, the
pandemic-era rule allowing for swift expulsion of migrants.
The bill would revive and codify a variety of border policies
championed during the Trump administration, including construction
of a border wall, the “Remain in Mexico†practice of keeping migrants seeking asylum either in detention facilities or on the
opposite side of the border and expedited deportation of
unaccompanied children. It also would mandate that companies verify
their employees are legally eligible to work in the United States
through a program known as E-Verify, and criminalize visa overstays
of more than 10 days.
The 219-to-213 vote to pass the bill came only after months of
internal Republican feuding capped by a final, marathon round of
haggling this week that highlighted the party’s tenuous hold on
its fractious majority and led to a series of last-minute changes
to win over holdouts. Two Republicans, Representatives Thomas
Massie of Kentucky and John Duarte of California, joined Democrats
in opposing the legislation, citing objections to the E-Verify
requirement.
The Republican divisions had threatened to muddle a debate the
party had timed for maximum political advantage, in which G.O.P.
lawmakers denounced the Biden administration for rising waves of
migration that are expected to surge further after Title 42
expires."
"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/11/us/politics/house-republicans-immigration-bill.html"
There are at least a couple of things worth noting here. For many
years the majority of our undocumented immigrants are people who
entered the country legally and overstayed their visa.
The number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been
relatively stable for a long time at around 12 million people.
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 7:48:01 PM UTC-7, kmillerTB
wrote:
On 9/23/2023 9:58 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
 ÂÂÂ
  Yeah,
this guy is an all American hero. The only
thing he cares about is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown
in US history, calls on Republicans to let it
happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund
these political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
Of course it is. Look at all the work the retrumplicans are doing
A government shut down is always a good thing
regardless of which side you are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've
been diagnosed by our resident psychiatrist with
having problems with the English language, so I'll
just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly concise -
description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing
and a Google expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to
figure that out, because a lot of the tools in my
toolbox have been lost or stolen - which is only part
of the problem because I seem to have also transitorily
misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts
and performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you
should at least try to spell its self-identified name
correctly. If it should happen to crawl RORT and see your
blatant disrespect, it might go find a safe space.
As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should
be OK.
It can't cross the border - the border is secure.
in Congress to secure it. Oh, wait. HqwHawHaw!
It's not like the retrumplicans haven't done anything. They have
been grandstanding on the issue with a border bill that has no
chance of passing. As usual they can't find any way to find common
ground with the Democrats, so they just stand by and wring their
hands. Shit, if they compromise it might look like Biden won one.
"May 11, 2023 House Republicans pushed through a sweeping border
security bill on Thursday that would crack down on unlawful
immigration, blowing past solid Democratic opposition and narrowly
avoiding an embarrassing mutiny within their own ranks on one of
their signature midterm campaign promises.
Republicans timed approval of the measure, which has no chance in
the Democratic-led Senate, to spotlight their hard-line stance on
immigration just as President Biden is facing a potential border
surge with Thursday night’s expiration of Title 42, the
pandemic-era rule allowing for swift expulsion of migrants.
The bill would revive and codify a variety of border policies
championed during the Trump administration, including construction
of a border wall, the “Remain in Mexico†practice of keeping
migrants seeking asylum either in detention facilities or on the
opposite side of the border and expedited deportation of
unaccompanied children. It also would mandate that companies verify
their employees are legally eligible to work in the United States
through a program known as E-Verify, and criminalize visa overstays
of more than 10 days.
The 219-to-213 vote to pass the bill came only after months of
internal Republican feuding capped by a final, marathon round of
haggling this week that highlighted the party’s tenuous hold on
its fractious majority and led to a series of last-minute changes
to win over holdouts. Two Republicans, Representatives Thomas
Massie of Kentucky and John Duarte of California, joined Democrats
in opposing the legislation, citing objections to the E-Verify
requirement.
The Republican divisions had threatened to muddle a debate the
party had timed for maximum political advantage, in which G.O.P.
lawmakers denounced the Biden administration for rising waves of
migration that are expected to surge further after Title 42
expires."
"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/11/us/politics/house-republicans-immigration-bill.html"
There are at least a couple of things worth noting here. For many
years the majority of our undocumented immigrants are people who
entered the country legally and overstayed their visa.
The number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been
relatively stable for a long time at around 12 million people.
Yeah, right. That's why even Democrat mayors and governors are starting
to complain and ask for money?
Then there's this: ----------------------------------------------------------------
...
Figure 3. There is a lot of variation from month to month, but the foreign-born population grew much more slowly during Trump's presidency
than during Obama's or Biden's. (January 2010 to February 2022, in
millions)
...
Conclusion
We estimate that in January 2019, the number of illegal immigrants in
the country was 11.48 million, similar to DHS’s estimate of 11.39
million for 2018. By January 2021, we estimate the number had dropped to 10.22 million as a result of travel restrictions and other policies
imposed as a result of Covid-19 and perhaps the deterioration in the
U.S. economy. The number then rebounded to 11.35 million by January 2022
— a 1.13 million increase since President Biden took office at the beginning of 2021. This means that growth in the illegal immigrant
population accounted for very roughly two-thirds of the 1.6 million
increase in the total foreign-born population (legal and illegal
immigrants together) in President Biden’s first year in office (January 2021 to January 2022). The share of growth in the total foreign-born population accounted for by illegal immigrants is even larger if we
compare the number in January 2021 to our preliminary February 2022
estimate of 11.46 million. What’s more, the total foreign-born
population reached 46.7 million in February of this year, a new record
high in American history.
While the large swings in the illegal-immigrant population may seem
unlikely, we find indirect evidence in the monthly CPS that the number
of illegal immigrants fell between 2019 and 2021 and then grew
dramatically by 2022. The number of both non-citizens and non-citizen Hispanics declined then rebounded over this time period. Changes in
these populations should be highly correlated with trends in the illegal-immigrant population. We think the recent increase in illegal immigrants reflects policy changes by the Biden administration and the lessening of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as the recovery of the economy. ------------------------------------------------------ https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
On 9/24/2023 12:47 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 7:48:01 PM UTC-7, kmillerTB
wrote:
On 9/23/2023 9:58 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
 ÂÂÂ
  Yeah,
this guy is an all American hero. The only
thing he cares about is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown
in US history, calls on Republicans to let it
happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund
these political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
Of course it is. Look at all the work the retrumplicans are doing
A government shut down is always a good thing
regardless of which side you are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've
been diagnosed by our resident psychiatrist with
having problems with the English language, so I'll
just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly concise - >>>>>>>>>> description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing
and a Google expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to
figure that out, because a lot of the tools in my
toolbox have been lost or stolen - which is only part
of the problem because I seem to have also transitorily
misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts
and performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you
should at least try to spell its self-identified name
correctly. If it should happen to crawl RORT and see your
blatant disrespect, it might go find a safe space.
As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should
be OK.
It can't cross the border - the border is secure.
in Congress to secure it. Oh, wait. HqwHawHaw!
It's not like the retrumplicans haven't done anything. They have
been grandstanding on the issue with a border bill that has no
chance of passing. As usual they can't find any way to find common
ground with the Democrats, so they just stand by and wring their
hands. Shit, if they compromise it might look like Biden won one.
"May 11, 2023 House Republicans pushed through a sweeping border
security bill on Thursday that would crack down on unlawful
immigration, blowing past solid Democratic opposition and narrowly
avoiding an embarrassing mutiny within their own ranks on one of
their signature midterm campaign promises.
Republicans timed approval of the measure, which has no chance in
the Democratic-led Senate, to spotlight their hard-line stance on
immigration just as President Biden is facing a potential border
surge with Thursday night’s expiration of Title 42, the
pandemic-era rule allowing for swift expulsion of migrants.
The bill would revive and codify a variety of border policies
championed during the Trump administration, including construction
of a border wall, the “Remain in Mexico†practice of keeping
migrants seeking asylum either in detention facilities or on the
opposite side of the border and expedited deportation of
unaccompanied children. It also would mandate that companies verify
their employees are legally eligible to work in the United States
through a program known as E-Verify, and criminalize visa overstays
of more than 10 days.
The 219-to-213 vote to pass the bill came only after months of
internal Republican feuding capped by a final, marathon round of
haggling this week that highlighted the party’s tenuous hold on
its fractious majority and led to a series of last-minute changes
to win over holdouts. Two Republicans, Representatives Thomas
Massie of Kentucky and John Duarte of California, joined Democrats
in opposing the legislation, citing objections to the E-Verify
requirement.
The Republican divisions had threatened to muddle a debate the
party had timed for maximum political advantage, in which G.O.P.
lawmakers denounced the Biden administration for rising waves of
migration that are expected to surge further after Title 42
expires."
"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/11/us/politics/house-republicans-immigration-bill.html"
There are at least a couple of things worth noting here. For many
years the majority of our undocumented immigrants are people who
entered the country legally and overstayed their visa.
The number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been
relatively stable for a long time at around 12 million people.
Yeah, right. That's why even Democrat mayors and governors are starting
to complain and ask for money?
Then there's this: ----------------------------------------------------------------
...
Figure 3. There is a lot of variation from month to month, but the foreign-born population grew much more slowly during Trump's presidency than during Obama's or Biden's. (January 2010 to February 2022, in millions)
...
Conclusion
We estimate that in January 2019, the number of illegal immigrants in
the country was 11.48 million, similar to DHS’s estimate of 11.39 million for 2018. By January 2021, we estimate the number had dropped to 10.22 million as a result of travel restrictions and other policies imposed as a result of Covid-19 and perhaps the deterioration in the
U.S. economy. The number then rebounded to 11.35 million by January 2022 — a 1.13 million increase since President Biden took office at the beginning of 2021. This means that growth in the illegal immigrant population accounted for very roughly two-thirds of the 1.6 million increase in the total foreign-born population (legal and illegal immigrants together) in President Biden’s first year in office (January 2021 to January 2022). The share of growth in the total foreign-born population accounted for by illegal immigrants is even larger if we compare the number in January 2021 to our preliminary February 2022 estimate of 11.46 million. What’s more, the total foreign-born population reached 46.7 million in February of this year, a new record high in American history.
While the large swings in the illegal-immigrant population may seem unlikely, we find indirect evidence in the monthly CPS that the number
of illegal immigrants fell between 2019 and 2021 and then grew dramatically by 2022. The number of both non-citizens and non-citizen Hispanics declined then rebounded over this time period. Changes in
these populations should be highly correlated with trends in the illegal-immigrant population. We think the recent increase in illegal immigrants reflects policy changes by the Biden administration and the lessening of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as the recovery of the economy.
------------------------------------------------------ https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of undocumented
alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates are just that and it depends on who is doing the estimating. Of course the libs' estimate
will be lower or unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
--
Thousands of unchecked illegal aliens are crossing the border all the
while I have to get my pecker x-ray'd or get felt up by a TSA agent just
to get on an airplane.
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 7:48:01 PM UTC-7, kmillerTB
wrote:
On 9/23/2023 9:58 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
 ÂÂÂ
  Yeah,
this guy is an all American hero. The only
thing he cares about is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown
in US history, calls on Republicans to let it
happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund
these political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
Of course it is. Look at all the work the retrumplicans are doing
A government shut down is always a good thing
regardless of which side you are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've
been diagnosed by our resident psychiatrist with
having problems with the English language, so I'll
just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly concise -
description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing
and a Google expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to
figure that out, because a lot of the tools in my
toolbox have been lost or stolen - which is only part
of the problem because I seem to have also transitorily
misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts
and performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you
should at least try to spell its self-identified name
correctly. If it should happen to crawl RORT and see your
blatant disrespect, it might go find a safe space.
As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should
be OK.
It can't cross the border - the border is secure.
in Congress to secure it. Oh, wait. HqwHawHaw!
It's not like the retrumplicans haven't done anything. They have
been grandstanding on the issue with a border bill that has no
chance of passing. As usual they can't find any way to find common
ground with the Democrats, so they just stand by and wring their
hands. Shit, if they compromise it might look like Biden won one.
"May 11, 2023 House Republicans pushed through a sweeping border
security bill on Thursday that would crack down on unlawful
immigration, blowing past solid Democratic opposition and narrowly
avoiding an embarrassing mutiny within their own ranks on one of
their signature midterm campaign promises.
Republicans timed approval of the measure, which has no chance in
the Democratic-led Senate, to spotlight their hard-line stance on
immigration just as President Biden is facing a potential border
surge with Thursday night’s expiration of Title 42, the
pandemic-era rule allowing for swift expulsion of migrants.
The bill would revive and codify a variety of border policies
championed during the Trump administration, including construction
of a border wall, the “Remain in Mexico†practice of keeping
migrants seeking asylum either in detention facilities or on the
opposite side of the border and expedited deportation of
unaccompanied children. It also would mandate that companies verify
their employees are legally eligible to work in the United States
through a program known as E-Verify, and criminalize visa overstays
of more than 10 days.
The 219-to-213 vote to pass the bill came only after months of
internal Republican feuding capped by a final, marathon round of
haggling this week that highlighted the party’s tenuous hold on
its fractious majority and led to a series of last-minute changes
to win over holdouts. Two Republicans, Representatives Thomas
Massie of Kentucky and John Duarte of California, joined Democrats
in opposing the legislation, citing objections to the E-Verify
requirement.
The Republican divisions had threatened to muddle a debate the
party had timed for maximum political advantage, in which G.O.P.
lawmakers denounced the Biden administration for rising waves of
migration that are expected to surge further after Title 42
expires."
"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/11/us/politics/house-republicans-immigration-bill.html"
There are at least a couple of things worth noting here. For many
years the majority of our undocumented immigrants are people who
entered the country legally and overstayed their visa.
The number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been
relatively stable for a long time at around 12 million people.
Yeah, right. That's why even Democrat mayors and governors are starting
to complain and ask for money?
Then there's this: ----------------------------------------------------------------
...
Figure 3. There is a lot of variation from month to month, but the foreign-born population grew much more slowly during Trump's presidency
than during Obama's or Biden's. (January 2010 to February 2022, in
millions)
...
Conclusion
We estimate that in January 2019, the number of illegal immigrants in
the country was 11.48 million, similar to DHS’s estimate of 11.39
million for 2018. By January 2021, we estimate the number had dropped to 10.22 million as a result of travel restrictions and other policies
imposed as a result of Covid-19 and perhaps the deterioration in the
U.S. economy. The number then rebounded to 11.35 million by January 2022
— a 1.13 million increase since President Biden took office at the beginning of 2021. This means that growth in the illegal immigrant
population accounted for very roughly two-thirds of the 1.6 million
increase in the total foreign-born population (legal and illegal
immigrants together) in President Biden’s first year in office (January 2021 to January 2022). The share of growth in the total foreign-born population accounted for by illegal immigrants is even larger if we
compare the number in January 2021 to our preliminary February 2022
estimate of 11.46 million. What’s more, the total foreign-born
population reached 46.7 million in February of this year, a new record
high in American history.
While the large swings in the illegal-immigrant population may seem
unlikely, we find indirect evidence in the monthly CPS that the number
of illegal immigrants fell between 2019 and 2021 and then grew
dramatically by 2022. The number of both non-citizens and non-citizen Hispanics declined then rebounded over this time period. Changes in
these populations should be highly correlated with trends in the illegal-immigrant population. We think the recent increase in illegal immigrants reflects policy changes by the Biden administration and the lessening of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as the recovery of the economy. ------------------------------------------------------ https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 1:24:01 PM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/24/2023 12:47 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 7:48:01 PM UTC-7, kmillerTB
wrote:
On 9/23/2023 9:58 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
 ÂÂÂ
  Yeah,
this guy is an all American hero. The only
thing he cares about is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown
in US history, calls on Republicans to let it
happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund
these political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
Of course it is. Look at all the work the retrumplicans are doing
A government shut down is always a good thing
regardless of which side you are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've
been diagnosed by our resident psychiatrist with
having problems with the English language, so I'll
just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly concise - >>>>>>>>>>>> description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing
and a Google expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to
figure that out, because a lot of the tools in my
toolbox have been lost or stolen - which is only part
of the problem because I seem to have also transitorily
misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts
and performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you
should at least try to spell its self-identified name
correctly. If it should happen to crawl RORT and see your
blatant disrespect, it might go find a safe space.
As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should
be OK.
It can't cross the border - the border is secure.
in Congress to secure it. Oh, wait. HqwHawHaw!
It's not like the retrumplicans haven't done anything. They have
been grandstanding on the issue with a border bill that has no
chance of passing. As usual they can't find any way to find common
ground with the Democrats, so they just stand by and wring their
hands. Shit, if they compromise it might look like Biden won one.
"May 11, 2023 House Republicans pushed through a sweeping border
security bill on Thursday that would crack down on unlawful
immigration, blowing past solid Democratic opposition and narrowly
avoiding an embarrassing mutiny within their own ranks on one of
their signature midterm campaign promises.
Republicans timed approval of the measure, which has no chance in
the Democratic-led Senate, to spotlight their hard-line stance on
immigration just as President Biden is facing a potential border
surge with Thursday night’s expiration of Title 42, the
pandemic-era rule allowing for swift expulsion of migrants.
The bill would revive and codify a variety of border policies
championed during the Trump administration, including construction
of a border wall, the “Remain in Mexico†practice of keeping >>>> migrants seeking asylum either in detention facilities or on the
opposite side of the border and expedited deportation of
unaccompanied children. It also would mandate that companies verify
their employees are legally eligible to work in the United States
through a program known as E-Verify, and criminalize visa overstays
of more than 10 days.
The 219-to-213 vote to pass the bill came only after months of
internal Republican feuding capped by a final, marathon round of
haggling this week that highlighted the party’s tenuous hold on >>>> its fractious majority and led to a series of last-minute changes
to win over holdouts. Two Republicans, Representatives Thomas
Massie of Kentucky and John Duarte of California, joined Democrats
in opposing the legislation, citing objections to the E-Verify
requirement.
The Republican divisions had threatened to muddle a debate the
party had timed for maximum political advantage, in which G.O.P.
lawmakers denounced the Biden administration for rising waves of
migration that are expected to surge further after Title 42
expires."
"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/11/us/politics/house-republicans-immigration-bill.html"
There are at least a couple of things worth noting here. For many
years the majority of our undocumented immigrants are people who
entered the country legally and overstayed their visa.
The number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been
relatively stable for a long time at around 12 million people.
Yeah, right. That's why even Democrat mayors and governors are starting
to complain and ask for money?
Then there's this:
----------------------------------------------------------------
...
Figure 3. There is a lot of variation from month to month, but the
foreign-born population grew much more slowly during Trump's presidency
than during Obama's or Biden's. (January 2010 to February 2022, in
millions)
...
Conclusion
We estimate that in January 2019, the number of illegal immigrants in
the country was 11.48 million, similar to DHS’s estimate of 11.39
million for 2018. By January 2021, we estimate the number had dropped to >>> 10.22 million as a result of travel restrictions and other policies
imposed as a result of Covid-19 and perhaps the deterioration in the
U.S. economy. The number then rebounded to 11.35 million by January 2022 >>> — a 1.13 million increase since President Biden took office at the
beginning of 2021. This means that growth in the illegal immigrant
population accounted for very roughly two-thirds of the 1.6 million
increase in the total foreign-born population (legal and illegal
immigrants together) in President Biden’s first year in office (January >>> 2021 to January 2022). The share of growth in the total foreign-born
population accounted for by illegal immigrants is even larger if we
compare the number in January 2021 to our preliminary February 2022
estimate of 11.46 million. What’s more, the total foreign-born
population reached 46.7 million in February of this year, a new record
high in American history.
While the large swings in the illegal-immigrant population may seem
unlikely, we find indirect evidence in the monthly CPS that the number
of illegal immigrants fell between 2019 and 2021 and then grew
dramatically by 2022. The number of both non-citizens and non-citizen
Hispanics declined then rebounded over this time period. Changes in
these populations should be highly correlated with trends in the
illegal-immigrant population. We think the recent increase in illegal
immigrants reflects policy changes by the Biden administration and the
lessening of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as the recovery of the economy. >>> ------------------------------------------------------
https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of undocumented
alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates are just that and it
depends on who is doing the estimating. Of course the libs' estimate
will be lower or unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain
knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
--
Thousands of unchecked illegal aliens are crossing the border all the
while I have to get my pecker x-ray'd or get felt up by a TSA agent just
to get on an airplane.
How many alien voting Democrats do you suspect there might be? Why would any wets want to pick up a federal case for illegal voting, with so little reward?
John Law
https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of undocumented
alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates are just that and it
depends on who is doing the estimating. Of course the libs' estimate
will be lower or unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain
knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of undocumentedGeorge is spot on.
alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates are just that and it depends on who is doing the estimating. Of course the libs' estimate
will be lower or unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
The Center for Immigration Studies is actually a conservative based organization. Which is hilarious since the TechnoBoob uses their
figures since he likes their numbers. Most conservatives have known for
a long time these numbers are totally underestimated, but don't make too
big a stink of it since their end goals are mostly laudable. They do
lobby for things the leftists don't like, and I think the Southern
Poverty Law Center has it in for them using the typical tactics of
racism, anti-immigrant, white supremacist, antisemitic vilification.
You do get into conflicting agenda because of this though since they
receive donations from liberal groups who also like having conservative outlets repeat these numbers, as well as people like the Boob who use
them to their advantage.
The problem with the numbers is that the groups assembles various
government agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who believes very
much of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats in the government swamp tells us is foolhardy. Watch congressional hearing to confirm one after another being called out for lies or partial truths. George is correct
in thinking the numbers are anything but the truth.
Think of it this way. If you put shit into your sausage making machine, don't be surprised when your sausage tastes like shit!
On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of undocumentedGeorge is spot on.
alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates are just that and it depends on who is doing the estimating. Of course the libs' estimate
will be lower or unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
The Center for Immigration Studies is actually a conservative based organization. Which is hilarious since the TechnoBoob uses their
figures since he likes their numbers. Most conservatives have known for
a long time these numbers are totally underestimated, but don't make too
big a stink of it since their end goals are mostly laudable. They do
lobby for things the leftists don't like, and I think the Southern
Poverty Law Center has it in for them using the typical tactics of
racism, anti-immigrant, white supremacist, antisemitic vilification.
You do get into conflicting agenda because of this though since they
receive donations from liberal groups who also like having conservative outlets repeat these numbers, as well as people like the Boob who use
them to their advantage.
The problem with the numbers is that the groups assembles various
government agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who believes very
much of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats in the government swamp tells us is foolhardy. Watch congressional hearing to confirm one after another being called out for lies or partial truths. George is correct
in thinking the numbers are anything but the truth.
Think of it this way. If you put shit into your sausage making machine, don't be surprised when your sausage tastes like shit!
On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
with. I still say it's impossible to know the number ofGeorge is spot on. The Center for Immigration Studies is actually
undocumented alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates
are just that and it depends on who is doing the estimating. Of
course the libs' estimate will be lower or unchanging over the
years but anyone with half a brain knows that's impossible...
just over the past two years.
a conservative based organization. Which is hilarious since the
TechnoBoob uses their figures since he likes their numbers. Most
conservatives have known for a long time these numbers are
totally underestimated, but don't make too big a stink of it
since their end goals are mostly laudable. They do lobby for
things the leftists don't like, and I think the Southern Poverty
Law Center has it in for them using the typical tactics of
racism, anti-immigrant, white supremacist, antisemitic
vilification. You do get into conflicting agenda because of this
though since they receive donations from liberal groups who also
like having conservative outlets repeat these numbers, as well as
people like the Boob who use them to their advantage. The problem
with the numbers is that the groups assembles various government
agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who believes very much
of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats in the government
swamp tells us is foolhardy. Watch congressional hearing to
confirm one after another being called out for lies or partial
truths. George is correct in thinking the numbers are anything
but the truth. Think of it this way. If you put shit into your
sausage making machine, don't be surprised when your sausage
tastes like shit!
Situation normal. Nobody likes my information. And nobody provides
better information. I did not like the people on alt.mexico who
wanted to kill men, women and children to secure the border, but
those assholes could provide their sources. We could discuss the
subject. There are no discussions here, just constant trolling.
On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:could discuss the subject. There are no discussions here, just constant trolling.
On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
George is spot on.
https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut >>> with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of undocumented
alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates are just that and it
depends on who is doing the estimating. Of course the libs' estimate
will be lower or unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain
knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
The Center for Immigration Studies is actually a conservative based
organization. Which is hilarious since the TechnoBoob uses their
figures since he likes their numbers. Most conservatives have known for
a long time these numbers are totally underestimated, but don't make too
big a stink of it since their end goals are mostly laudable. They do
lobby for things the leftists don't like, and I think the Southern
Poverty Law Center has it in for them using the typical tactics of
racism, anti-immigrant, white supremacist, antisemitic vilification.
You do get into conflicting agenda because of this though since they
receive donations from liberal groups who also like having conservative
outlets repeat these numbers, as well as people like the Boob who use
them to their advantage.
The problem with the numbers is that the groups assembles various
government agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who believes very
much of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats in the government swamp
tells us is foolhardy. Watch congressional hearing to confirm one after
another being called out for lies or partial truths. George is correct
in thinking the numbers are anything but the truth.
Think of it this way. If you put shit into your sausage making machine,
don't be surprised when your sausage tastes like shit!
Situation normal. Nobody likes my information. And nobody provides better information. I did not like the people on alt.mexico who wanted to kill men, women and children to secure the border, but those assholes could provide their sources. We
TB
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
with. I still say it's impossible to know the number ofGeorge is spot on. The Center for Immigration Studies is actually
undocumented alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates
are just that and it depends on who is doing the estimating. Of
course the libs' estimate will be lower or unchanging over the
years but anyone with half a brain knows that's impossible...
just over the past two years.
a conservative based organization. Which is hilarious since the
TechnoBoob uses their figures since he likes their numbers. Most
conservatives have known for a long time these numbers are
totally underestimated, but don't make too big a stink of it
since their end goals are mostly laudable. They do lobby for
things the leftists don't like, and I think the Southern Poverty
Law Center has it in for them using the typical tactics of
racism, anti-immigrant, white supremacist, antisemitic
vilification. You do get into conflicting agenda because of this
though since they receive donations from liberal groups who also
like having conservative outlets repeat these numbers, as well as
people like the Boob who use them to their advantage. The problem
with the numbers is that the groups assembles various government
agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who believes very much
of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats in the government
swamp tells us is foolhardy. Watch congressional hearing to
confirm one after another being called out for lies or partial
truths. George is correct in thinking the numbers are anything
but the truth. Think of it this way. If you put shit into your
sausage making machine, don't be surprised when your sausage
tastes like shit!
Situation normal. Nobody likes my information. And nobody providesHawHawHaw! Now that's a hoot. But you're right about discussions - you
better information. I did not like the people on alt.mexico who
wanted to kill men, women and children to secure the border, but
those assholes could provide their sources. We could discuss the
subject. There are no discussions here, just constant trolling.
can't have rational discussions with controversialists - particularly
with those who admit to being trolls and who admit to posting
primarily - and maybe even entirely - for their own amusement.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 5:39:49 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, sticks
wrote:
On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
HawHawHaw! Now that's a hoot. But you're right about discussionswith. I still say it's impossible to know the number ofGeorge is spot on. The Center for Immigration Studies is
undocumented alien democrat voters in this country.
Estimates are just that and it depends on who is doing the
estimating. Of course the libs' estimate will be lower or
unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain
knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
actually a conservative based organization. Which is
hilarious since the TechnoBoob uses their figures since he
likes their numbers. Most conservatives have known for a long
time these numbers are totally underestimated, but don't make
too big a stink of it since their end goals are mostly
laudable. They do lobby for things the leftists don't like,
and I think the Southern Poverty Law Center has it in for
them using the typical tactics of racism, anti-immigrant,
white supremacist, antisemitic vilification. You do get into
conflicting agenda because of this though since they receive
donations from liberal groups who also like having
conservative outlets repeat these numbers, as well as people
like the Boob who use them to their advantage. The problem
with the numbers is that the groups assembles various
government agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who
believes very much of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats
in the government swamp tells us is foolhardy. Watch
congressional hearing to confirm one after another being
called out for lies or partial truths. George is correct in
thinking the numbers are anything but the truth. Think of it
this way. If you put shit into your sausage making machine,
don't be surprised when your sausage tastes like shit!
Situation normal. Nobody likes my information. And nobody
provides better information. I did not like the people on
alt.mexico who wanted to kill men, women and children to secure
the border, but those assholes could provide their sources. We
could discuss the subject. There are no discussions here, just
constant trolling.
- you can't have rational discussions with controversialists -
particularly with those who admit to being trolls and who admit
to posting primarily - and maybe even entirely - for their own
amusement. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
lol, Are you trying to tell us you're posting for any other reason
than your own amusement?
Your posting history says otherwise. About
the only real difference between me and the rest of the dweebs is
that I'm honest about it.
TB
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 5:39:49 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, sticks >>>> wrote:
On 9/24/2023 3:23 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
HawHawHaw! Now that's a hoot. But you're right about discussionswith. I still say it's impossible to know the number ofGeorge is spot on. The Center for Immigration Studies is
undocumented alien democrat voters in this country.
Estimates are just that and it depends on who is doing the
estimating. Of course the libs' estimate will be lower or
unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain
knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
actually a conservative based organization. Which is
hilarious since the TechnoBoob uses their figures since he
likes their numbers. Most conservatives have known for a long
time these numbers are totally underestimated, but don't make
too big a stink of it since their end goals are mostly
laudable. They do lobby for things the leftists don't like,
and I think the Southern Poverty Law Center has it in for
them using the typical tactics of racism, anti-immigrant,
white supremacist, antisemitic vilification. You do get into
conflicting agenda because of this though since they receive
donations from liberal groups who also like having
conservative outlets repeat these numbers, as well as people
like the Boob who use them to their advantage. The problem
with the numbers is that the groups assembles various
government agency stats into their assessment. Anyone who
believes very much of what the leftist controlled bureaucrats
in the government swamp tells us is foolhardy. Watch
congressional hearing to confirm one after another being
called out for lies or partial truths. George is correct in
thinking the numbers are anything but the truth. Think of it
this way. If you put shit into your sausage making machine,
don't be surprised when your sausage tastes like shit!
Situation normal. Nobody likes my information. And nobody
provides better information. I did not like the people on
alt.mexico who wanted to kill men, women and children to secure
the border, but those assholes could provide their sources. We
could discuss the subject. There are no discussions here, just
constant trolling.
- you can't have rational discussions with controversialists -
particularly with those who admit to being trolls and who admit
to posting primarily - and maybe even entirely - for their own
amusement. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
lol, Are you trying to tell us you're posting for any other reason
than your own amusement?
For a while there, I was hoping for a rational discussion about AI.
Your posting history says otherwise. About
the only real difference between me and the rest of the dweebs is
that I'm honest about it.
TB
For a while there, I was hoping for a rational discussion about AI.
On 9/24/2023 12:47 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 7:48:01 PM UTC-7, kmillerTB
wrote:
On 9/23/2023 9:58 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
 ÂÂÂ
  Yeah,
this guy is an all American hero. The only
thing he cares about is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown
in US history, calls on Republicans to let it
happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund
these political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
Of course it is. Look at all the work the retrumplicans are doing
A government shut down is always a good thing
regardless of which side you are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've
been diagnosed by our resident psychiatrist with
having problems with the English language, so I'll
just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly concise - >>>>>>>>>> description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing
and a Google expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to
figure that out, because a lot of the tools in my
toolbox have been lost or stolen - which is only part
of the problem because I seem to have also transitorily
misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts
and performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you
should at least try to spell its self-identified name
correctly. If it should happen to crawl RORT and see your
blatant disrespect, it might go find a safe space.
As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should
be OK.
It can't cross the border - the border is secure.
in Congress to secure it. Oh, wait. HqwHawHaw!
It's not like the retrumplicans haven't done anything. They have
been grandstanding on the issue with a border bill that has no
chance of passing. As usual they can't find any way to find common
ground with the Democrats, so they just stand by and wring their
hands. Shit, if they compromise it might look like Biden won one.
"May 11, 2023 House Republicans pushed through a sweeping border
security bill on Thursday that would crack down on unlawful
immigration, blowing past solid Democratic opposition and narrowly
avoiding an embarrassing mutiny within their own ranks on one of
their signature midterm campaign promises.
Republicans timed approval of the measure, which has no chance in
the Democratic-led Senate, to spotlight their hard-line stance on
immigration just as President Biden is facing a potential border
surge with Thursday night’s expiration of Title 42, the
pandemic-era rule allowing for swift expulsion of migrants.
The bill would revive and codify a variety of border policies
championed during the Trump administration, including construction
of a border wall, the “Remain in Mexico†practice of keeping
migrants seeking asylum either in detention facilities or on the
opposite side of the border and expedited deportation of
unaccompanied children. It also would mandate that companies verify
their employees are legally eligible to work in the United States
through a program known as E-Verify, and criminalize visa overstays
of more than 10 days.
The 219-to-213 vote to pass the bill came only after months of
internal Republican feuding capped by a final, marathon round of
haggling this week that highlighted the party’s tenuous hold on
its fractious majority and led to a series of last-minute changes
to win over holdouts. Two Republicans, Representatives Thomas
Massie of Kentucky and John Duarte of California, joined Democrats
in opposing the legislation, citing objections to the E-Verify
requirement.
The Republican divisions had threatened to muddle a debate the
party had timed for maximum political advantage, in which G.O.P.
lawmakers denounced the Biden administration for rising waves of
migration that are expected to surge further after Title 42
expires."
"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/11/us/politics/house-republicans-immigration-bill.html"
There are at least a couple of things worth noting here. For many
years the majority of our undocumented immigrants are people who
entered the country legally and overstayed their visa.
The number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been
relatively stable for a long time at around 12 million people.
Yeah, right. That's why even Democrat mayors and governors are starting
to complain and ask for money?
Then there's this: ----------------------------------------------------------------
...
Figure 3. There is a lot of variation from month to month, but the foreign-born population grew much more slowly during Trump's presidency than during Obama's or Biden's. (January 2010 to February 2022, in millions)
...
Conclusion
We estimate that in January 2019, the number of illegal immigrants in
the country was 11.48 million, similar to DHS’s estimate of 11.39 million for 2018. By January 2021, we estimate the number had dropped to 10.22 million as a result of travel restrictions and other policies imposed as a result of Covid-19 and perhaps the deterioration in the
U.S. economy. The number then rebounded to 11.35 million by January 2022 — a 1.13 million increase since President Biden took office at the beginning of 2021. This means that growth in the illegal immigrant population accounted for very roughly two-thirds of the 1.6 million increase in the total foreign-born population (legal and illegal immigrants together) in President Biden’s first year in office (January 2021 to January 2022). The share of growth in the total foreign-born population accounted for by illegal immigrants is even larger if we compare the number in January 2021 to our preliminary February 2022 estimate of 11.46 million. What’s more, the total foreign-born population reached 46.7 million in February of this year, a new record high in American history.
While the large swings in the illegal-immigrant population may seem unlikely, we find indirect evidence in the monthly CPS that the number
of illegal immigrants fell between 2019 and 2021 and then grew dramatically by 2022. The number of both non-citizens and non-citizen Hispanics declined then rebounded over this time period. Changes in
these populations should be highly correlated with trends in the illegal-immigrant population. We think the recent increase in illegal immigrants reflects policy changes by the Biden administration and the lessening of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as the recovery of the economy.
------------------------------------------------------ https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of undocumented
alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates are just that and it depends on who is doing the estimating. Of course the libs' estimate
will be lower or unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
--
Thousands of unchecked illegal aliens are crossing the border all the
while I have to get my pecker x-ray'd or get felt up by a TSA agent just
to get on an airplane.
On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 1:24:01 PM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/24/2023 12:47 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:Well, you just sent Captain Google scrambling for something he can rebut
On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 7:48:01 PM UTC-7, kmillerTB
wrote:
On 9/23/2023 9:58 AM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:29 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/22/2023 12:36 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
On 9/22/2023 11:33 AM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
 ÂÂÂ
  Yeah,
this guy is an all American hero. The only
thing he cares about is his own fat ass.
"Trump, who led the longest government shutdown
in US history, calls on Republicans to let it
happen again in 9 days so they can 'defund
these political prosecutions against me'"
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-longest-government-shutdown-tells-gop-meet-funding-deadline-prosecutions-2023-9
Of course it is. Look at all the work the retrumplicans are doing
A government shut down is always a good thing
regardless of which side you are on.
I can't articulate my own opinion, because I've
been diagnosed by our resident psychiatrist with
having problems with the English language, so I'll
just say that's a pretty good - and pleasantly concise - >>>>>>>>>>>> description of my opinion also.
I wonder what it's like to be all-knowing, all-seeing
and a Google expert?
I don't know. I'm not smart enough to figure out how to
figure that out, because a lot of the tools in my
toolbox have been lost or stolen - which is only part
of the problem because I seem to have also transitorily
misplaced my table.
What!? You haven't asked LLaMA?
I've become moderately disillusioned with LLaMa - it acts
and performs a lot like some Real People in here. And you
should at least try to spell its self-identified name
correctly. If it should happen to crawl RORT and see your
blatant disrespect, it might go find a safe space.
As long as it doesn't cross the border illegally, it should
be OK.
It can't cross the border - the border is secure.
in Congress to secure it. Oh, wait. HqwHawHaw!
It's not like the retrumplicans haven't done anything. They have
been grandstanding on the issue with a border bill that has no
chance of passing. As usual they can't find any way to find common
ground with the Democrats, so they just stand by and wring their
hands. Shit, if they compromise it might look like Biden won one.
"May 11, 2023 House Republicans pushed through a sweeping border
security bill on Thursday that would crack down on unlawful
immigration, blowing past solid Democratic opposition and narrowly
avoiding an embarrassing mutiny within their own ranks on one of
their signature midterm campaign promises.
Republicans timed approval of the measure, which has no chance in
the Democratic-led Senate, to spotlight their hard-line stance on
immigration just as President Biden is facing a potential border
surge with Thursday night’s expiration of Title 42, the
pandemic-era rule allowing for swift expulsion of migrants.
The bill would revive and codify a variety of border policies
championed during the Trump administration, including construction
of a border wall, the “Remain in Mexico†practice of keeping >>>> migrants seeking asylum either in detention facilities or on the
opposite side of the border and expedited deportation of
unaccompanied children. It also would mandate that companies verify
their employees are legally eligible to work in the United States
through a program known as E-Verify, and criminalize visa overstays
of more than 10 days.
The 219-to-213 vote to pass the bill came only after months of
internal Republican feuding capped by a final, marathon round of
haggling this week that highlighted the party’s tenuous hold on >>>> its fractious majority and led to a series of last-minute changes
to win over holdouts. Two Republicans, Representatives Thomas
Massie of Kentucky and John Duarte of California, joined Democrats
in opposing the legislation, citing objections to the E-Verify
requirement.
The Republican divisions had threatened to muddle a debate the
party had timed for maximum political advantage, in which G.O.P.
lawmakers denounced the Biden administration for rising waves of
migration that are expected to surge further after Title 42
expires."
"https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/11/us/politics/house-republicans-immigration-bill.html"
There are at least a couple of things worth noting here. For many
years the majority of our undocumented immigrants are people who
entered the country legally and overstayed their visa.
The number of undocumented immigrants in this country has been
relatively stable for a long time at around 12 million people.
Yeah, right. That's why even Democrat mayors and governors are starting
to complain and ask for money?
Then there's this:
----------------------------------------------------------------
...
Figure 3. There is a lot of variation from month to month, but the
foreign-born population grew much more slowly during Trump's presidency
than during Obama's or Biden's. (January 2010 to February 2022, in
millions)
...
Conclusion
We estimate that in January 2019, the number of illegal immigrants in
the country was 11.48 million, similar to DHS’s estimate of 11.39
million for 2018. By January 2021, we estimate the number had dropped to >>> 10.22 million as a result of travel restrictions and other policies
imposed as a result of Covid-19 and perhaps the deterioration in the
U.S. economy. The number then rebounded to 11.35 million by January 2022 >>> — a 1.13 million increase since President Biden took office at the
beginning of 2021. This means that growth in the illegal immigrant
population accounted for very roughly two-thirds of the 1.6 million
increase in the total foreign-born population (legal and illegal
immigrants together) in President Biden’s first year in office (January >>> 2021 to January 2022). The share of growth in the total foreign-born
population accounted for by illegal immigrants is even larger if we
compare the number in January 2021 to our preliminary February 2022
estimate of 11.46 million. What’s more, the total foreign-born
population reached 46.7 million in February of this year, a new record
high in American history.
While the large swings in the illegal-immigrant population may seem
unlikely, we find indirect evidence in the monthly CPS that the number
of illegal immigrants fell between 2019 and 2021 and then grew
dramatically by 2022. The number of both non-citizens and non-citizen
Hispanics declined then rebounded over this time period. Changes in
these populations should be highly correlated with trends in the
illegal-immigrant population. We think the recent increase in illegal
immigrants reflects policy changes by the Biden administration and the
lessening of the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as the recovery of the economy. >>> ------------------------------------------------------
https://cis.org/Report/Estimating-Illegal-Immigrant-Population-Using-Current-Population-Survey
with. I still say it's impossible to know the number of undocumented
alien democrat voters in this country. Estimates are just that and it
depends on who is doing the estimating. Of course the libs' estimate
will be lower or unchanging over the years but anyone with half a brain
knows that's impossible... just over the past two years.
--
Thousands of unchecked illegal aliens are crossing the border all the
while I have to get my pecker x-ray'd or get felt up by a TSA agent just
to get on an airplane.
Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me. Another significant difference between me and the average rort dweeb is that I frequently backup my
opinions with facts. It makes the know nothings crazy because all they
have to rebut it with is ignorance.
TB
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