• Today's AI test question

    From bfh@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 6 14:50:42 2023
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part that
    has the least consensus among the AIs.

    --------------------------------------------------
    Bard
    Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the
    membrane is more tightly attached to the shell. ------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------
    Bing chat
    Use eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that the
    fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel. ------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------
    LLaMa
    Use fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
    eggs, which may have a thicker shell. ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------
    ChatGPT
    Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
    fresh ones.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy by
    being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start with fresh
    older eggs.
    And BTW, is a fresh older egg different from an older fresh egg, and
    if so, what are the approximate temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote for?
    Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Sep 6 13:06:29 2023
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part that
    has the least consensus among the AIs.

    --------------------------------------------------
    Bard
    Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the
    membrane is more tightly attached to the shell. ------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------
    Bing chat
    Use eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel. ------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------
    LLaMa
    Use fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
    eggs, which may have a thicker shell. ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------
    ChatGPT
    Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
    fresh ones.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy by
    being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start with fresh
    older eggs.
    And BTW, is a fresh older egg different from an older fresh egg, and
    if so, what are the approximate temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote for?
    Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    TB

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Sep 6 17:06:54 2023
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 4:16:06 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
    that has the least consensus among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
    eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
    is more tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
    eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
    the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
    eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
    with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
    fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
    by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
    with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
    from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
    temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
    for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
    don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
    boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
    after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
    LOL!
    Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
    except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
    my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
    also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
    Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
    tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
    a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Yeah, it's just shocking that anyone here would know enough about boiling an egg to recognize when you're chasing your own ass again.

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Wed Sep 6 19:16:03 2023
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
    that has the least consensus among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
    eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
    is more tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
    eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
    the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
    eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
    with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
    fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
    by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
    with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
    from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
    temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
    for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
    don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
    boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
    after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL!
    Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
    except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
    getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
    my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
    also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
    Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
    tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
    a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Sep 6 17:21:59 2023
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 4:16:06 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
    that has the least consensus among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
    eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
    is more tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
    eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
    the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
    eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
    with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
    fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
    by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
    with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
    from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
    temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
    for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
    don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
    boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
    after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
    LOL!
    Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
    except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
    my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
    also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
    Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
    tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
    a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Bud Light was one of my smaller mistakes. I have made many here over the years. I think my all time favorite was agreeing with the people who said the orange idiot could never win the nomination in the first place.

    TB

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Sep 7 00:53:57 2023
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
    that has the least consensus among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
    eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
    is more tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
    eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
    the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
    eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
    with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
    fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
    by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
    with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
    from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
    temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
    for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
    don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
    boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
    after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL!
    Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
    except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
    my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
    also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
    Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
    tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
    a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class Googler.
    I don’t know why he doesn’t google “ Biden’s accomplishments” and regale us
    with that infinite list.

    --
    Interesting scientific fact - your DNA is on everything you touch except
    your bag of coke.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Wed Sep 6 21:11:25 2023
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 4:16:06 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh
    wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the
    part that has the least consensus among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use
    older eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the
    membrane is more tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat
    Use eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find
    that the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to
    peel. -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than
    older eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT
    Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily
    than very fresh ones.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older
    controversy by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends
    that you start with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh
    older egg different from an older fresh egg, and if so, what
    are the approximate temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you
    vote for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel
    easily don't put them in the water until you have brought it to
    the boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice
    water after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely
    necessary.
    LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
    everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light advertising
    analytics....because I've never literally met you. You're a hoot
    TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm getting old and brittle,
    I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or
    I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
    bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought
    to also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the
    floor. Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
    strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms
    of hilariousness is a unique possibility at the end of the day
    going forward. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Yeah, it's just shocking that anyone here would know enough about
    boiling an egg to recognize when you're chasing your own ass
    again.

    HawHawHaw! See? You're a certified hoot.



    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Wed Sep 6 21:23:11 2023
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
    that has the least consensus among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
    eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
    is more tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
    eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
    the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
    eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
    with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
    fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
    by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
    with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
    from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
    temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
    for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
    don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
    boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
    after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL!
    Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
    except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never
    literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
    getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
    my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
    bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
    also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
    Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
    tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
    a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class Googler.
    I don’t know why he doesn’t google “ Biden’s accomplishments” and regale us
    with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't even
    able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
    think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
    it's congenital?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Sep 7 14:33:09 2023
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
    that has the least consensus among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
    eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
    is more tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
    eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
    the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
    eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
    with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
    fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
    by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
    with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
    from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
    temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
    for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
    don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
    boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
    after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL!
    Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
    except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never
    literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
    getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
    my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
    bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
    also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
    Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
    tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
    a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class Googler. >> I don’t know why he doesn’t google “ Biden’s accomplishments” and regale us
    with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't even
    able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
    think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
    it's congenital?


    Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive accomplishments as president. That should be a hoot.

    --
    Interesting scientific fact - your DNA is on everything you touch except
    your bag of coke.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Thu Sep 7 12:53:33 2023
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
    that has the least consensus among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
    eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
    is more tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
    eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
    the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
    eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
    with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
    fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
    by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
    with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
    from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
    temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
    for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
    don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
    boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
    after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL!
    Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
    except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never
    literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm >>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
    my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital >>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
    also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
    Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
    tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is >>>> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class Googler. >>> I don’t know why he doesn’t google “ Biden’s accomplishments” and regale us
    with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't even
    able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
    think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
    it's congenital?


    Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive accomplishments as president. That should be a hoot.

    Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my friends.
    I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along "model collapse"
    already is.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8

    And as to your request (I also added Trump): --------------------------------------------------------------------
    list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
    As a neutral AI language model, I can provide an objective list of Joe
    Biden's positive accomplishments during his presidency:

    COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was successful in
    implementing policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, such as
    vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and social distancing measures.
    These efforts helped slow down the pandemic and save countless lives.
    Economic Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy
    experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession. The
    president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed to economic growth
    and job creation.
    Climate Change Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority
    by signing executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
    promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
    negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed at
    addressing global warming.
    Immigration Reform: During Biden's term, there were several
    notable immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
    for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary
    protection to young undocumented immigrants who came to the US as minors.
    Criminal Justice Reform: Biden supported legislation aimed at
    reducing mass incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems,
    and providing support for victims of crime. His administration also
    worked to address police brutality and systemic racial disparities
    within law enforcement agencies.
    LGBTQ+ Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights throughout his political career. During his presidency, he signed the
    Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+ individuals from
    discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender identity.
    Foreign Policy Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy
    achievements included the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of
    relations with Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in shaping the
    response to the global refugee crisis.

    list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
    It is important to note that opinions about Donald Trump's presidency
    may vary widely depending on one's perspective and experiences.
    However, here are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency
    that have been reported by various news outlets and organizations:

    Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US economy
    experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment rates and rising
    stock market indices.
    Tax cuts: Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which
    lowered income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
    been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer spending.
    Deregulation: Trump issued numerous executive orders aimed at
    reducing regulations on businesses, particularly in the energy and
    financial sectors. This has led to increased efficiency and
    competition in these industries.
    Criminal justice reform: Trump signed the First Step Act in 2018,
    which aimed to reduce sentences for nonviolent drug offenders and
    provide more resources for rehabilitation programs.
    Military action: Trump ordered military strikes against ISIS
    targets in Syria and Yemen, which has been seen as a success in
    combating terrorism.
    Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the North American Free Trade
    Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one
    trade agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and increase
    trade between the two countries.
    Space exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the
    moon by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
    surface. This marks a significant step forward in space exploration
    and could pave the way for further human settlements beyond Earth.
    Judicial appointments: Trump appointed multiple conservative
    judges to federal courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
    balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.
    Border security: Trump secured funding for border wall prototypes
    and took steps to enhance physical barriers along the US-Mexico
    border. While the effectiveness of this approach remains
    controversial, it has been praised by some for its potential to deter
    illegal crossings.
    Voter ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
    present identification before casting their ballots in certain states.
    This move has been criticized by some as an attempt to suppress
    minority voting, but others see it as a necessary step to prevent
    fraudulent votes.

    It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on individual perspectives and
    beliefs. Some people may view these accomplishments positively, while
    others might disagree or consider them insignificant compared to other
    issues.
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response compared
    to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.

    I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased as the
    average human. I further allege that unless their 'parents' change how
    the damthings are "trained", they're going to be both useless and
    dangerous.

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Fri Sep 8 08:53:55 2023
    On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM
    UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part >>>>>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older >>>>>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane >>>>>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
    eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
    the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
    eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
    with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
    fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy >>>>>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
    with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
    from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
    temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote >>>>>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
    don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
    boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
    after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL!
    Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything >>>>> except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never >>>>> literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm >>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for >>>>> my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital >>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to >>>>> also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. >>>>> Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
    tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is >>>>> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class
    Googler.
    I don’t know why he doesn’t google “
    Biden’s accomplishments” and regale us
    with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't even
    able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
    think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
    it's congenital?


    Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive accomplishments as >> president. That should be a hoot.

    Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my friends. I'm
    just trying to get a self-idea of how far along "model collapse" already
    is.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8

    And as to your request (I also added Trump): --------------------------------------------------------------------
    list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
    As a neutral AI language model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's positive accomplishments during his presidency:

        COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was successful in implementing policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, such as
    vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and social distancing measures.
    These efforts helped slow down the pandemic and save countless lives.
        Economic Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession. The
    president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed to economic growth and
    job creation.
        Climate Change Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by signing executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
    promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in negotiating
    the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed at addressing global warming.
        Immigration Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action for
    Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary protection
    to young undocumented immigrants who came to the US as minors.
        Criminal Justice Reform: Biden supported legislation aimed at reducing mass incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems,
    and providing support for victims of crime. His administration also
    worked to address police brutality and systemic racial disparities
    within law enforcement agencies.
        LGBTQ+ Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights throughout his political career. During his presidency, he signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+ individuals from
    discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender identity.
        Foreign Policy Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements included the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
    Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in shaping the response to the
    global refugee crisis.

    list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
    It is important to note that opinions about Donald Trump's presidency
    may vary widely depending on one's perspective and experiences. However,
    here are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that have
    been reported by various news outlets and organizations:

        Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US economy experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment rates and rising
    stock market indices.
        Tax cuts: Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which lowered income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
    been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer spending.
        Deregulation: Trump issued numerous executive orders aimed at reducing regulations on businesses, particularly in the energy and
    financial sectors. This has led to increased efficiency and competition
    in these industries.
        Criminal justice reform: Trump signed the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences for nonviolent drug offenders and
    provide more resources for rehabilitation programs.
        Military action: Trump ordered military strikes against ISIS
    targets in Syria and Yemen, which has been seen as a success in
    combating terrorism.
        Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one
    trade agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and increase
    trade between the two countries.
        Space exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar surface. This
    marks a significant step forward in space exploration and could pave the
    way for further human settlements beyond Earth.
        Judicial appointments: Trump appointed multiple conservative judges to federal courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
    and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.
        Border security: Trump secured funding for border wall prototypes
    and took steps to enhance physical barriers along the US-Mexico border.
    While the effectiveness of this approach remains controversial, it has
    been praised by some for its potential to deter illegal crossings.
        Voter ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to present identification before casting their ballots in certain states.
    This move has been criticized by some as an attempt to suppress minority voting, but others see it as a necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.

    It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on individual perspectives and
    beliefs. Some people may view these accomplishments positively, while
    others might disagree or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response compared to
    2 disclaimers of "depending on individual perspectives and beliefs"
    included with the Trump response.

    I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased as the
    average human. I further allege that unless their 'parents' change how
    the damthings are "trained", they're going to be both useless and
    dangerous.


    They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they? HawHawHaw!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Fri Sep 8 14:51:07 2023
    kmiller wrote:
    On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
    11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part >>>>>>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older >>>>>>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane >>>>>>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use >>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that >>>>>>>> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
    eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start >>>>>>>> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very >>>>>>>> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy >>>>>>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start >>>>>>>> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different >>>>>>>> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
    temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote >>>>>>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
    don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
    boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
    after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL!
    Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
    everything....everything
    except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've
    never
    literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now
    that I'm
    getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness
    for
    my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a
    hospital
    bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably
    ought to
    also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the
    floor.
    Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in, >>>>>> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of
    hilariousness is
    a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class
    Googler.
    I don’t know why he doesn’t
    google “ Biden’s
    accomplishments” and regale us
    with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't
    even
    able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
    think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
    it's congenital?


    Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive
    accomplishments as
    president. That should be a hoot.

    Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my friends.
    I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along "model collapse"
    already is.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8


    And as to your request (I also added Trump):
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
    As a neutral AI language model, I can provide an objective list of
    Joe Biden's positive accomplishments during his presidency:

     Â Â Â  COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was successful in >> implementing policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, such as
    vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and social distancing measures.
    These efforts helped slow down the pandemic and save countless lives.
     Â Â Â  Economic Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy >> experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession. The
    president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory reforms,
    and investments in infrastructure, which contributed to economic
    growth and job creation.
     Â Â Â  Climate Change Initiatives: Biden made climate change a
    priority by signing executive orders aimed at reducing carbon
    emissions and promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key
    role in negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord
    aimed at addressing global warming.
     Â Â Â  Immigration Reform: During Biden's term, there were several >> notable immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred
    Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided
    temporary protection to young undocumented immigrants who came to
    the US as minors.
     Â Â Â  Criminal Justice Reform: Biden supported legislation aimed >> at reducing mass incarceration rates, improving criminal justice
    systems, and providing support for victims of crime. His
    administration also worked to address police brutality and systemic
    racial disparities within law enforcement agencies.
     Â Â Â  LGBTQ+ Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ >> rights throughout his political career. During his presidency, he
    signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+ individuals
    from discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender
    identity.
     Â Â Â  Foreign Policy Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy
    achievements included the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of
    relations with Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
    Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in shaping
    the response to the global refugee crisis.

    list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
    It is important to note that opinions about Donald Trump's
    presidency may vary widely depending on one's perspective and
    experiences. However, here are some positive accomplishments of
    Trump's presidency that have been reported by various news outlets
    and organizations:

     Â Â Â  Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US economy >> experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment rates and
    rising stock market indices.
     Â Â Â  Tax cuts: Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017,
    which lowered income taxes for individuals and businesses. This
    measure has been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
    spending.
     Â Â Â  Deregulation: Trump issued numerous executive orders aimed >> at reducing regulations on businesses, particularly in the energy
    and financial sectors. This has led to increased efficiency and
    competition in these industries.
     Â Â Â  Criminal justice reform: Trump signed the First Step Act in >> 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences for nonviolent drug offenders
    and provide more resources for rehabilitation programs.
     Â Â Â  Military action: Trump ordered military strikes against ISIS >> targets in Syria and Yemen, which has been seen as a success in
    combating terrorism.
     Â Â Â  Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the North American Free
    Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and Mexico, resulting in the
    United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a
    phase one trade agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs
    and increase trade between the two countries.
     Â Â Â  Space exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to >> the moon by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
    surface. This marks a significant step forward in space exploration
    and could pave the way for further human settlements beyond Earth.
     Â Â Â  Judicial appointments: Trump appointed multiple conservative >> judges to federal courts, including two Supreme Court justices
    (Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's
    ideological balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.
     Â Â Â  Border security: Trump secured funding for border wall
    prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers along the
    US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this approach remains
    controversial, it has been praised by some for its potential to
    deter illegal crossings.
     Â Â Â  Voter ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters >> to present identification before casting their ballots in certain
    states. This move has been criticized by some as an attempt to
    suppress minority voting, but others see it as a necessary step to
    prevent fraudulent votes.

    It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's presidency
    and accomplishments will differ depending on individual perspectives
    and beliefs. Some people may view these accomplishments positively,
    while others might disagree or consider them insignificant compared
    to other issues.
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response
    compared to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual perspectives
    and beliefs" included with the Trump response.

    I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased as the
    average human. I further allege that unless their 'parents' change
    how the damthings are "trained", they're going to be both useless
    and dangerous.


    They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they? HawHawHaw!

    Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Don Lampson@21:1/5 to bfh on Fri Sep 8 18:05:54 2023
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
    11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part >>>>>>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older >>>>>>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane >>>>>>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use >>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that >>>>>>>> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use >>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older >>>>>>>> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start >>>>>>>> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very >>>>>>>> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>
    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy >>>>>>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start >>>>>>>> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different >>>>>>>> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate >>>>>>>> temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote >>>>>>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily >>>>>>> don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
    boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water >>>>>>> after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary. >>>>>>
    LOL!
    Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
    everything....everything
    except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've >>>>>> never
    literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now
    that I'm
    getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness >>>>>> for
    my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a
    hospital
    bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably
    ought to
    also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the
    floor.
    Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in, >>>>>> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of
    hilariousness is
    a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class >>>>> Googler.
    I don’t know why he doesn’t
    google “ Biden’s
    accomplishments†and regale us
    with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't
    even
    able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
    think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
    it's congenital?


    Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive
    accomplishments as
    president. That should be a hoot.

    Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my friends.
    I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along "model collapse"
    already is.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8


    And as to your request (I also added Trump):
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
    As a neutral AI language model, I can provide an objective list of
    Joe Biden's positive accomplishments during his presidency:

    Â Â Â COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was successful in
    implementing policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, such as
    vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and social distancing measures.
    These efforts helped slow down the pandemic and save countless lives.
    Â Â Â Economic Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy
    experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession. The
    president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory reforms,
    and investments in infrastructure, which contributed to economic
    growth and job creation.
    Â Â Â Climate Change Initiatives: Biden made climate change a
    priority by signing executive orders aimed at reducing carbon
    emissions and promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key
    role in negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord
    aimed at addressing global warming.
    Â Â Â Immigration Reform: During Biden's term, there were several
    notable immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred
    Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided
    temporary protection to young undocumented immigrants who came to
    the US as minors.
    Â Â Â Criminal Justice Reform: Biden supported legislation aimed
    at reducing mass incarceration rates, improving criminal justice
    systems, and providing support for victims of crime. His
    administration also worked to address police brutality and systemic
    racial disparities within law enforcement agencies.
    Â Â Â LGBTQ+ Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+
    rights throughout his political career. During his presidency, he
    signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+ individuals
    from discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender
    identity.
    Â Â Â Foreign Policy Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy
    achievements included the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of
    relations with Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
    Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in shaping
    the response to the global refugee crisis.

    list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
    It is important to note that opinions about Donald Trump's
    presidency may vary widely depending on one's perspective and
    experiences. However, here are some positive accomplishments of
    Trump's presidency that have been reported by various news outlets
    and organizations:

    Â Â Â Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US economy
    experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment rates and
    rising stock market indices.
    Â Â Â Tax cuts: Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017,
    which lowered income taxes for individuals and businesses. This
    measure has been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
    spending.
    Â Â Â Deregulation: Trump issued numerous executive orders aimed
    at reducing regulations on businesses, particularly in the energy
    and financial sectors. This has led to increased efficiency and
    competition in these industries.
    Â Â Â Criminal justice reform: Trump signed the First Step Act in
    2018, which aimed to reduce sentences for nonviolent drug offenders
    and provide more resources for rehabilitation programs.
    Â Â Â Military action: Trump ordered military strikes against ISIS
    targets in Syria and Yemen, which has been seen as a success in
    combating terrorism.
    Â Â Â Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the North American Free
    Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and Mexico, resulting in the
    United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a
    phase one trade agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs
    and increase trade between the two countries.
    Â Â Â Space exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to
    the moon by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
    surface. This marks a significant step forward in space exploration
    and could pave the way for further human settlements beyond Earth.
    Â Â Â Judicial appointments: Trump appointed multiple conservative
    judges to federal courts, including two Supreme Court justices
    (Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's
    ideological balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.
    Â Â Â Border security: Trump secured funding for border wall
    prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers along the
    US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this approach remains
    controversial, it has been praised by some for its potential to
    deter illegal crossings.
    Â Â Â Voter ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters
    to present identification before casting their ballots in certain
    states. This move has been criticized by some as an attempt to
    suppress minority voting, but others see it as a necessary step to
    prevent fraudulent votes.

    It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's presidency
    and accomplishments will differ depending on individual perspectives
    and beliefs. Some people may view these accomplishments positively,
    while others might disagree or consider them insignificant compared
    to other issues.
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response
    compared to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual perspectives
    and beliefs" included with the Trump response.

    I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased as the
    average human. I further allege that unless their 'parents' change
    how the damthings are "trained", they're going to be both useless
    and dangerous.


    They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they? HawHawHaw!
    Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed?
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate, as examples of their mealy-mouthism(s)? BTW, just prezactly what does "mealy-mouth", mean to you? Maybe you better go ask AI what it thinks, just to be on the safe side? It's got an
    opinion too! HawHawHaw!

    Daniel Webster VIII

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Don Lampson on Fri Sep 8 21:33:20 2023
    Don Lampson wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
    11:50:45 AM
    UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily
    every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to
    include the part that has the least consensus
    among the AIs.

    --------------------------------------------------
    Bard Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more
    difficult to peel because the membrane is more
    tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------


    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
    eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many
    people find that the fresher an egg is, the more
    difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------


    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to
    peel than older eggs, which may have a thicker
    shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------
    ChatGPT Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to
    peel more easily than very fresh ones.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the
    fresh/older controversy by being equitable and
    inclusive. It recommends that you start with
    fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg
    different from an older fresh egg, and if so,
    what are the approximate temporal metrics of
    each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which
    one would you vote for? Or alternatively, which
    science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
    work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to
    peel easily don't put them in the water until you
    have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if
    you chill them quickly in ice water after you've
    cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
    everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light
    advertising analytics....because I've never literally
    met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now
    that I'm getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to
    get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or I'll
    be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
    bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I
    probably ought to also get the tools out of my
    toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. Look, I
    mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
    strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable
    paroxysms of hilariousness is a unique possibility at
    the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a
    world class Googler. I
    don’t know why he
    doesn’t google
    “
    Biden’s
    accomplishments†and
    regale us with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone,
    he wasn't even able to figure out what an "AI test
    question" is for. And I don't think I've ever known
    anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe it's
    congenital?


    Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s
    positive accomplishments as president. That should be a
    hoot.

    Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my
    friends. I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along
    "model collapse" already is.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8




    And as to your request (I also added Trump):
    --------------------------------------------------------------------


    list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs As a neutral AI language
    model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's
    positive accomplishments during his presidency:

    Â Â Â COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was
    successful in implementing policies to mitigate the spread of
    COVID-19, such as vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and
    social distancing measures. These efforts helped slow down
    the pandemic and save countless lives. Â Â Â Economic
    Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy
    experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession.
    The president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory
    reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed
    to economic growth and job creation. Â Â Â Climate Change >>>> Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by signing
    executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
    promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
    negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord
    aimed at addressing global warming. Â Â Â Immigration
    Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable
    immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
    for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided
    temporary protection to young undocumented immigrants who
    came to the US as minors. Â Â Â Criminal Justice Reform:
    Biden supported legislation aimed at reducing mass
    incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems, and
    providing support for victims of crime. His administration
    also worked to address police brutality and systemic racial
    disparities within law enforcement agencies. Â Â Â LGBTQ+ >>>> Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
    throughout his political career. During his presidency, he
    signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+
    individuals from discrimination based on their sexual
    orientation or gender identity. Â Â Â Foreign Policy
    Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements included
    the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
    Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
    Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in
    shaping the response to the global refugee crisis.

    list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President LLaMa
    served by Perplexity Labs It is important to note that
    opinions about Donald Trump's presidency may vary widely
    depending on one's perspective and experiences. However, here
    are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that
    have been reported by various news outlets and
    organizations:

    Â Â Â Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US
    economy experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment
    rates and rising stock market indices. Â Â Â Tax cuts:
    Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which lowered
    income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
    been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
    spending. Â Â Â Deregulation: Trump issued numerous
    executive orders aimed at reducing regulations on businesses,
    particularly in the energy and financial sectors. This has
    led to increased efficiency and competition in these
    industries. Â Â Â Criminal justice reform: Trump signed
    the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences
    for nonviolent drug offenders and provide more resources for
    rehabilitation programs. Â Â Â Military action: Trump
    ordered military strikes against ISIS targets in Syria and
    Yemen, which has been seen as a success in combating
    terrorism. Â Â Â Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the
    North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and
    Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada
    Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one trade
    agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and
    increase trade between the two countries. Â Â Â Space
    exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon
    by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
    surface. This marks a significant step forward in space
    exploration and could pave the way for further human
    settlements beyond Earth. Â Â Â Judicial appointments:
    Trump appointed multiple conservative judges to federal
    courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
    and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
    balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come. Â
    Â Â Border security: Trump secured funding for border
    wall prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers
    along the US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this
    approach remains controversial, it has been praised by some
    for its potential to deter illegal crossings. Â Â Â Voter >>>> ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
    present identification before casting their ballots in
    certain states. This move has been criticized by some as an
    attempt to suppress minority voting, but others see it as a
    necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.

    It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's
    presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on
    individual perspectives and beliefs. Some people may view
    these accomplishments positively, while others might disagree
    or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response
    compared to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual
    perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.

    I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased
    as the average human. I further allege that unless their
    'parents' change how the damthings are "trained", they're
    going to be both useless and dangerous.


    They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they?
    HawHawHaw!
    Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed? --
    bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate, as
    examples of their mealy-mouthism(s)?

    Can I have all of them?

    BTW, just prezactly what does
    "mealy-mouth", mean to you?

    : not plain and straightforward : devious
    What does it mean to you?

    Maybe you better go ask AI what it
    thinks, just to be on the safe side? It's got an opinion too!
    HawHawHaw!

    What would make you think that I would think that AI had credibility?

    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to bfh on Fri Sep 8 19:10:40 2023
    On 9/8/2023 6:33 PM, bfh wrote:
    Don Lampson wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
    11:50:45 AM
    UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily
    every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to
    include the part that has the least consensus
    among the AIs.

    --------------------------------------------------
    Bard Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more
    difficult to peel because the membrane is more
    tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------


    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
    eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many
    people find that the fresher an egg is, the more
    difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------


    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to
    peel than older eggs, which may have a thicker
    shell. ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------
    ChatGPT Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to
    peel more easily than very fresh ones.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the
    fresh/older controversy by being equitable and
    inclusive. It recommends that you start with
    fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg
    different from an older fresh egg, and if so,
    what are the approximate temporal metrics of
    each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which
    one would you vote for? Or alternatively, which
    science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
    work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to
    peel easily don't put them in the water until you
    have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if
    you chill them quickly in ice water after you've
    cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
    everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light
    advertising analytics....because I've never literally
    met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm >>>>>>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to
    get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or I'll
    be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
    bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I
    probably ought to also get the tools out of my
    toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. Look, I
    mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
    strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable
    paroxysms of hilariousness is a unique possibility at
    the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a
    world class Googler. I
    don’t know why he
    doesn’t google
    “
    Biden’s
    accomplishments†and
    regale us with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone,
    he wasn't even able to figure out what an "AI test
    question" is for. And I don't think I've ever known
    anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe it's
    congenital?


    Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s
    positive accomplishments as president. That should be a
    hoot.

    Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my
    friends. I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along
    "model collapse" already is.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8




    And as to your request (I also added Trump):
    -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>

    list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs As a neutral AI language
    model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's
    positive accomplishments during his presidency:

        COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was
    successful in implementing policies to mitigate the spread of
    COVID-19, such as vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and
    social distancing measures. These efforts helped slow down
    the pandemic and save countless lives.     Economic
    Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy experienced a
    significant recovery from the Great Recession.
    The president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory
    reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed
    to economic growth and job creation.     Climate Change >>>>> Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by signing
    executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
    promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
    negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed at
    addressing global warming.     Immigration
    Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable
    immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
    for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary
    protection to young undocumented immigrants who
    came to the US as minors.     Criminal Justice Reform: >>>>> Biden supported legislation aimed at reducing mass
    incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems, and
    providing support for victims of crime. His administration
    also worked to address police brutality and systemic racial
    disparities within law enforcement agencies.     LGBTQ+ >>>>> Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
    throughout his political career. During his presidency, he signed
    the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+
    individuals from discrimination based on their sexual
    orientation or gender identity.     Foreign Policy
    Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements included
    the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
    Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. Additionally,
    his administration played a crucial role in
    shaping the response to the global refugee crisis.

    list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President LLaMa
    served by Perplexity Labs It is important to note that
    opinions about Donald Trump's presidency may vary widely
    depending on one's perspective and experiences. However, here
    are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that
    have been reported by various news outlets and
    organizations:

        Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US >>>>> economy experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment
    rates and rising stock market indices.     Tax cuts: >>>>> Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which lowered
    income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
    been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer spending.
        Deregulation: Trump issued numerous
    executive orders aimed at reducing regulations on businesses,
    particularly in the energy and financial sectors. This has
    led to increased efficiency and competition in these
    industries.     Criminal justice reform: Trump signed >>>>> the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences
    for nonviolent drug offenders and provide more resources for
    rehabilitation programs.     Military action: Trump
    ordered military strikes against ISIS targets in Syria and
    Yemen, which has been seen as a success in combating
    terrorism.     Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the
    North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and
    Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada
    Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one trade
    agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and
    increase trade between the two countries.     Space
    exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon
    by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar surface.
    This marks a significant step forward in space
    exploration and could pave the way for further human
    settlements beyond Earth.     Judicial appointments: >>>>> Trump appointed multiple conservative judges to federal
    courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
    and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
    balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come. Â
       Border security: Trump secured funding for border
    wall prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers
    along the US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this
    approach remains controversial, it has been praised by some
    for its potential to deter illegal crossings.     Voter >>>>> ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
    present identification before casting their ballots in
    certain states. This move has been criticized by some as an
    attempt to suppress minority voting, but others see it as a
    necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.

    It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's
    presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on
    individual perspectives and beliefs. Some people may view
    these accomplishments positively, while others might disagree
    or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
    ----------------------------------------------------------- Note
    the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response compared to
    2 disclaimers of "depending on individual
    perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.

    I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased
    as the average human. I further allege that unless their
    'parents' change how the damthings are "trained", they're
    going to be both useless and dangerous.


    They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they?
    HawHawHaw!
    Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed? --
     bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate,  as
    examples of their mealy-mouthism(s)?

    Can I have all of them?

    BTW, just prezactly what does
    "mealy-mouth", mean to you?

    : not plain and straightforward : devious

    You mean like, "All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780
    votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won this state, and
    flipping the state is a great testament to the country," Trump said. "I
    only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break."
    "It's just not possible to have lost Georgia. It's not possible," Trump
    said.?

    HawHawHaw!

    What does it mean to you?

    Maybe you better go ask AI what it
    thinks, just to be on the safe side?    It's got an opinion too!
    HawHawHaw!

    What would make you think that I would think that AI had credibility?


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Sat Sep 9 01:18:22 2023
    kmiller wrote:
    On 9/8/2023 6:33 PM, bfh wrote:
    Don Lampson wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote: >>>> kmiller wrote:
    On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
    11:50:45ââ‚ÂÃ
    ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¯AM

    UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily
    every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to
    include the part that has the least consensus
    among the AIs.

    --------------------------------------------------
    Bard Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more
    difficult to peel because the membrane is more
    tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------


    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
    eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many
    people find that the fresher an egg is, the more
    difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------


    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to
    peel than older eggs, which may have a thicker
    shell. ------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>
    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------
    ChatGPT Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to
    peel more easily than very fresh ones.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the
    fresh/older controversy by being equitable and
    inclusive. It recommends that you start with
    fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg
    different from an older fresh egg, and if so,
    what are the approximate temporal metrics of
    each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which
    one would you vote for? Or alternatively, which
    science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
    work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to
    peel easily don't put them in the water until you
    have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if
    you chill them quickly in ice water after you've
    cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
    everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light
    advertising analytics....because I've never literally
    met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm >>>>>>>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to
    get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or I'll
    be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
    bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I
    probably ought to also get the tools out of my
    toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. Look, I
    mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
    strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable
    paroxysms of hilariousness is a unique possibility at
    the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a
    world class Googler. I
    don’t
    know why he
    doesn’t
    google
    “

    Biden’s
    accomplishmentsâ€ÂÂ
    and
    regale us with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone,
    he wasn't even able to figure out what an "AI test
    question" is for. And I don't think I've ever known
    anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe it's
    congenital?


    Ask your AI friend to name all of
    Biden’s
    positive accomplishments as president. That should be a
    hoot.

    Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my
    friends. I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along
    "model collapse" already is.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8





    And as to your request (I also added Trump):
    -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>


    list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs As a neutral AI language
    model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's
    positive accomplishments during his presidency:

        COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was
    successful in implementing policies to mitigate the spread of
    COVID-19, such as vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and
    social distancing measures. These efforts helped slow down
    the pandemic and save countless lives.     Economic
    Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy experienced a
    significant recovery from the Great Recession.
    The president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory
    reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed
    to economic growth and job creation.     Climate
    Change
    Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by signing
    executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
    promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
    negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed
    at addressing global warming.     Immigration
    Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable
    immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
    for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary
    protection to young undocumented immigrants who
    came to the US as minors.     Criminal Justice
    Reform:
    Biden supported legislation aimed at reducing mass
    incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems, and
    providing support for victims of crime. His administration
    also worked to address police brutality and systemic racial
    disparities within law enforcement agencies. Â Â ÂÂ
    LGBTQ+
    Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
    throughout his political career. During his presidency, he
    signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+
    individuals from discrimination based on their sexual
    orientation or gender identity.     Foreign Policy
    Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements included
    the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
    Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
    Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in
    shaping the response to the global refugee crisis.

    list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President LLaMa
    served by Perplexity Labs It is important to note that
    opinions about Donald Trump's presidency may vary widely
    depending on one's perspective and experiences. However, here
    are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that
    have been reported by various news outlets and
    organizations:

        Economic growth: During Trump's presidency,
    the US
    economy experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment
    rates and rising stock market indices.     Tax
    cuts:
    Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which lowered
    income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
    been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
    spending.     Deregulation: Trump issued numerous
    executive orders aimed at reducing regulations on businesses,
    particularly in the energy and financial sectors. This has
    led to increased efficiency and competition in these
    industries.     Criminal justice reform: Trump
    signed
    the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences
    for nonviolent drug offenders and provide more resources for
    rehabilitation programs.     Military action: Trump
    ordered military strikes against ISIS targets in Syria and
    Yemen, which has been seen as a success in combating
    terrorism.     Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the
    North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and
    Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada
    Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one trade
    agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and
    increase trade between the two countries.     Space
    exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon
    by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
    surface. This marks a significant step forward in space
    exploration and could pave the way for further human
    settlements beyond Earth.     Judicial
    appointments:
    Trump appointed multiple conservative judges to federal
    courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
    and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
    balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.  >>>>>>    Border security: Trump secured funding for border
    wall prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers
    along the US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this
    approach remains controversial, it has been praised by some
    for its potential to deter illegal crossings.   >>>>>>   Voter
    ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
    present identification before casting their ballots in
    certain states. This move has been criticized by some as an
    attempt to suppress minority voting, but others see it as a
    necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.

    It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's
    presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on
    individual perspectives and beliefs. Some people may view
    these accomplishments positively, while others might disagree
    or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
    ----------------------------------------------------------- Note
    the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response compared
    to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual
    perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.

    I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased
    as the average human. I further allege that unless their
    'parents' change how the damthings are "trained", they're
    going to be both useless and dangerous.


    They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they?
    HawHawHaw!
    Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed? --
     bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate,  as
    examples of their mealy-mouthism(s)?

    Can I have all of them?

    BTW, just prezactly what does
    "mealy-mouth", mean to you?

    : not plain and straightforward : devious

    You mean like, "All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780
    votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won this state, and flipping the state is a great testament to the country," Trump said.
    "I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a
    break." "It's just not possible to have lost Georgia. It's not
    possible," Trump said.?

    HawHawHaw!

    Nothing mealy-mouthed about that. "plain and straight forward". It's
    what he thought/thinks - straight from his brain to your ears/eyes.

    What does it mean to you?

    Maybe you better go ask AI what it
    thinks, just to be on the safe side?    It's got an opinion too! >>> HawHawHaw!

    What would make you think that I would think that AI had credibility?




    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Don Lampson on Sat Sep 9 14:03:35 2023
    Don Lampson <donlampson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
    11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part >>>>>>>>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older >>>>>>>>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane >>>>>>>>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use >>>>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that >>>>>>>>>> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use >>>>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older >>>>>>>>>> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start >>>>>>>>>> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very >>>>>>>>>> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>
    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy >>>>>>>>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start >>>>>>>>>> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different >>>>>>>>>> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate >>>>>>>>>> temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote >>>>>>>>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily >>>>>>>>> don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the >>>>>>>>> boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water >>>>>>>>> after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary. >>>>>>>>
    LOL!
    Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
    everything....everything
    except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've >>>>>>>> never
    literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now
    that I'm
    getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness >>>>>>>> for
    my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a
    hospital
    bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably
    ought to
    also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the >>>>>>>> floor.
    Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in, >>>>>>>> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of
    hilariousness is
    a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class >>>>>>> Googler.
    I don’t know why he doesn’t
    google “ Biden’s
    accomplishments†and regale us
    with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't
    even
    able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
    think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe >>>>>> it's congenital?


    Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive
    accomplishments as
    president. That should be a hoot.

    Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my friends.
    I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along "model collapse"
    already is.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8


    And as to your request (I also added Trump):
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
    As a neutral AI language model, I can provide an objective list of
    Joe Biden's positive accomplishments during his presidency:

    Â Â Â COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was successful in
    implementing policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, such as
    vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and social distancing measures.
    These efforts helped slow down the pandemic and save countless lives.
    Â Â Â Economic Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy
    experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession. The
    president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory reforms,
    and investments in infrastructure, which contributed to economic
    growth and job creation.
    Â Â Â Climate Change Initiatives: Biden made climate change a
    priority by signing executive orders aimed at reducing carbon
    emissions and promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key
    role in negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord
    aimed at addressing global warming.
    Â Â Â Immigration Reform: During Biden's term, there were several
    notable immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred
    Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided
    temporary protection to young undocumented immigrants who came to
    the US as minors.
    Â Â Â Criminal Justice Reform: Biden supported legislation aimed
    at reducing mass incarceration rates, improving criminal justice
    systems, and providing support for victims of crime. His
    administration also worked to address police brutality and systemic
    racial disparities within law enforcement agencies.
    Â Â Â LGBTQ+ Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+
    rights throughout his political career. During his presidency, he
    signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+ individuals
    from discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender
    identity.
    Â Â Â Foreign Policy Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy
    achievements included the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of
    relations with Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
    Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in shaping
    the response to the global refugee crisis.

    list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
    It is important to note that opinions about Donald Trump's
    presidency may vary widely depending on one's perspective and
    experiences. However, here are some positive accomplishments of
    Trump's presidency that have been reported by various news outlets
    and organizations:

    Â Â Â Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US economy
    experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment rates and
    rising stock market indices.
    Â Â Â Tax cuts: Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017,
    which lowered income taxes for individuals and businesses. This
    measure has been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
    spending.
    Â Â Â Deregulation: Trump issued numerous executive orders aimed
    at reducing regulations on businesses, particularly in the energy
    and financial sectors. This has led to increased efficiency and
    competition in these industries.
    Â Â Â Criminal justice reform: Trump signed the First Step Act in
    2018, which aimed to reduce sentences for nonviolent drug offenders
    and provide more resources for rehabilitation programs.
    Â Â Â Military action: Trump ordered military strikes against ISIS >>>> targets in Syria and Yemen, which has been seen as a success in
    combating terrorism.
    Â Â Â Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the North American Free
    Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and Mexico, resulting in the
    United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a
    phase one trade agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs
    and increase trade between the two countries.
    Â Â Â Space exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to
    the moon by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
    surface. This marks a significant step forward in space exploration
    and could pave the way for further human settlements beyond Earth.
    Â Â Â Judicial appointments: Trump appointed multiple conservative >>>> judges to federal courts, including two Supreme Court justices
    (Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's
    ideological balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.
    Â Â Â Border security: Trump secured funding for border wall
    prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers along the
    US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this approach remains
    controversial, it has been praised by some for its potential to
    deter illegal crossings.
    Â Â Â Voter ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters
    to present identification before casting their ballots in certain
    states. This move has been criticized by some as an attempt to
    suppress minority voting, but others see it as a necessary step to
    prevent fraudulent votes.

    It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's presidency
    and accomplishments will differ depending on individual perspectives
    and beliefs. Some people may view these accomplishments positively,
    while others might disagree or consider them insignificant compared
    to other issues.
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response
    compared to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual perspectives
    and beliefs" included with the Trump response.

    I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased as the
    average human. I further allege that unless their 'parents' change
    how the damthings are "trained", they're going to be both useless
    and dangerous.


    They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they? HawHawHaw!
    Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed?
    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate, as examples
    of their mealy-mouthism(s)? BTW, just prezactly what does "mealy-mouth", mean to you? Maybe you better go ask AI what it thinks, just to be on
    the safe side? It's got an opinion too! HawHawHaw!

    Daniel Webster VIII


    I looked it up for you in the dictionary. Very simple definition given - “Democrat speak”. Sounds right to me.

    --
    Interesting scientific fact - your DNA is on everything you touch except
    your bag of coke.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Frank Howell@21:1/5 to bfh on Sat Sep 9 15:30:34 2023
    bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 9/8/2023 6:33 PM, bfh wrote:
    Don Lampson wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
    11:50:45ââ‚ÂÃ
    ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¯AM

    UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily
    every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to
    include the part that has the least consensus
    among the AIs.

    --------------------------------------------------
    Bard Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more
    difficult to peel because the membrane is more
    tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------


    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use >>>>>>>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many
    people find that the fresher an egg is, the more
    difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------


    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to
    peel than older eggs, which may have a thicker
    shell. ------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------
    ChatGPT Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to
    peel more easily than very fresh ones.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the
    fresh/older controversy by being equitable and
    inclusive. It recommends that you start with
    fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg
    different from an older fresh egg, and if so,
    what are the approximate temporal metrics of
    each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which
    one would you vote for? Or alternatively, which
    science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
    work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to
    peel easily don't put them in the water until you
    have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if
    you chill them quickly in ice water after you've
    cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
    everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light
    advertising analytics....because I've never literally
    met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm >>>>>>>>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to
    get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or I'll
    be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
    bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I
    probably ought to also get the tools out of my
    toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. Look, I
    mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
    strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable
    paroxysms of hilariousness is a unique possibility at
    the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a
    world class Googler. I
    don’t
    know why he
    doesn’t
    google
    “

    Biden’s
    accomplishmentsâ€ÂÂ
    and
    regale us with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone,
    he wasn't even able to figure out what an "AI test
    question" is for. And I don't think I've ever known
    anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe it's
    congenital?


    Ask your AI friend to name all of
    Biden’s
    positive accomplishments as president. That should be a
    hoot.

    Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my
    friends. I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along
    "model collapse" already is.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8





    And as to your request (I also added Trump):
    -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>

    list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs As a neutral AI language
    model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's
    positive accomplishments during his presidency:

        COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was
    successful in implementing policies to mitigate the spread of
    COVID-19, such as vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and
    social distancing measures. These efforts helped slow down
    the pandemic and save countless lives.     Economic
    Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy experienced a >>>>>>> significant recovery from the Great Recession.
    The president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory
    reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed
    to economic growth and job creation.     Climate
    Change
    Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by signing
    executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
    promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
    negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed at >>>>>>> addressing global warming.     Immigration
    Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable
    immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
    for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary
    protection to young undocumented immigrants who
    came to the US as minors.     Criminal Justice
    Reform:
    Biden supported legislation aimed at reducing mass
    incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems, and
    providing support for victims of crime. His administration
    also worked to address police brutality and systemic racial
    disparities within law enforcement agencies. Â Â ÂÂ
    LGBTQ+
    Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
    throughout his political career. During his presidency, he signed >>>>>>> the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+
    individuals from discrimination based on their sexual
    orientation or gender identity.     Foreign Policy
    Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements included
    the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
    Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
    Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in
    shaping the response to the global refugee crisis.

    list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President LLaMa
    served by Perplexity Labs It is important to note that
    opinions about Donald Trump's presidency may vary widely
    depending on one's perspective and experiences. However, here
    are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that
    have been reported by various news outlets and
    organizations:

        Economic growth: During Trump's presidency,
    the US
    economy experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment
    rates and rising stock market indices.     Tax cuts:
    Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which lowered
    income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
    been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
    spending.     Deregulation: Trump issued numerous
    executive orders aimed at reducing regulations on businesses,
    particularly in the energy and financial sectors. This has
    led to increased efficiency and competition in these
    industries.     Criminal justice reform: Trump
    signed
    the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences
    for nonviolent drug offenders and provide more resources for
    rehabilitation programs.     Military action: Trump
    ordered military strikes against ISIS targets in Syria and
    Yemen, which has been seen as a success in combating
    terrorism.     Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the
    North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and
    Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada
    Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one trade
    agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and
    increase trade between the two countries.     Space
    exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon
    by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
    surface. This marks a significant step forward in space
    exploration and could pave the way for further human
    settlements beyond Earth.     Judicial appointments:
    Trump appointed multiple conservative judges to federal
    courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
    and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
    balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.  >>>>>>>    Border security: Trump secured funding for border
    wall prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers
    along the US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this
    approach remains controversial, it has been praised by some
    for its potential to deter illegal crossings. Â Â ÂÂ
    Voter
    ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
    present identification before casting their ballots in
    certain states. This move has been criticized by some as an
    attempt to suppress minority voting, but others see it as a
    necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.

    It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's
    presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on
    individual perspectives and beliefs. Some people may view
    these accomplishments positively, while others might disagree
    or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
    ----------------------------------------------------------- Note >>>>>>> the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response compared >>>>>>> to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual
    perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.

    I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased
    as the average human. I further allege that unless their
    'parents' change how the damthings are "trained", they're
    going to be both useless and dangerous.


    They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they?
    HawHawHaw!
    Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed? --
     bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate,  as
    examples of their mealy-mouthism(s)?

    Can I have all of them?

    BTW, just prezactly what does
    "mealy-mouth", mean to you?

    : not plain and straightforward : devious

    You mean like, "All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780
    votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won this state, and
    flipping the state is a great testament to the country," Trump said.
    "I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a
    break." "It's just not possible to have lost Georgia. It's not
    possible," Trump said.?

    HawHawHaw!

    Nothing mealy-mouthed about that. "plain and straight forward". It's
    what he thought/thinks - straight from his brain to your ears/eyes.

    What does it mean to you?

    It's clear Trump is unprincipled mealy-brained.

    Maybe you better go ask AI what it
    thinks, just to be on the safe side?    It's got an opinion too! >>>> HawHawHaw!

    What would make you think that I would think that AI had credibility?






    --
    Frank Howell

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Frank Howell on Sat Sep 9 22:53:33 2023
    Frank Howell <fphowell@usermail.com> wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 9/8/2023 6:33 PM, bfh wrote:
    Don Lampson wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
    11:50:45ââ‚ÂÃ
    ƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’‚¯AM


    UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily
    every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to
    include the part that has the least consensus
    among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bard Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more
    difficult to peel because the membrane is more
    tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------


    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use >>>>>>>>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many
    people find that the fresher an egg is, the more
    difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------


    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to
    peel than older eggs, which may have a thicker
    shell. ------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------
    ChatGPT Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to
    peel more easily than very fresh ones.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the
    fresh/older controversy by being equitable and
    inclusive. It recommends that you start with
    fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg
    different from an older fresh egg, and if so,
    what are the approximate temporal metrics of
    each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which
    one would you vote for? Or alternatively, which
    science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
    work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to
    peel easily don't put them in the water until you
    have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if
    you chill them quickly in ice water after you've
    cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
    everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light
    advertising analytics....because I've never literally
    met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm >>>>>>>>>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to
    get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or I'll
    be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
    bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I
    probably ought to also get the tools out of my
    toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. Look, I
    mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
    strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable
    paroxysms of hilariousness is a unique possibility at
    the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a
    world class Googler. I
    don’t

    know why he
    doesn’t

    google
    “

    Biden’s


    accomplishmentsâ€ÂÂ

    and
    regale us with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone,
    he wasn't even able to figure out what an "AI test
    question" is for. And I don't think I've ever known
    anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe it's
    congenital?


    Ask your AI friend to name all of
    Biden’s
    positive accomplishments as president. That should be a
    hoot.

    Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my
    friends. I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along
    "model collapse" already is.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8






    And as to your request (I also added Trump):
    -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>

    list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs As a neutral AI language
    model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's
    positive accomplishments during his presidency:

        COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was
    successful in implementing policies to mitigate the spread of
    COVID-19, such as vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and
    social distancing measures. These efforts helped slow down
    the pandemic and save countless lives.     Economic
    Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy experienced a >>>>>>>> significant recovery from the Great Recession.
    The president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory
    reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed
    to economic growth and job creation.     Climate
    Change
    Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by signing
    executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
    promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
    negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed at >>>>>>>> addressing global warming.     Immigration
    Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable
    immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
    for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary >>>>>>>> protection to young undocumented immigrants who
    came to the US as minors.     Criminal Justice
    Reform:
    Biden supported legislation aimed at reducing mass
    incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems, and
    providing support for victims of crime. His administration
    also worked to address police brutality and systemic racial
    disparities within law enforcement agencies. Â Â ÂÂ
    LGBTQ+
    Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
    throughout his political career. During his presidency, he signed >>>>>>>> the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+
    individuals from discrimination based on their sexual
    orientation or gender identity.     Foreign Policy
    Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements included
    the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
    Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
    Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in
    shaping the response to the global refugee crisis.

    list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President LLaMa
    served by Perplexity Labs It is important to note that
    opinions about Donald Trump's presidency may vary widely
    depending on one's perspective and experiences. However, here
    are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that
    have been reported by various news outlets and
    organizations:

        Economic growth: During Trump's presidency,
    the US
    economy experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment
    rates and rising stock market indices.     Tax cuts:
    Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which lowered
    income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
    been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
    spending.     Deregulation: Trump issued numerous
    executive orders aimed at reducing regulations on businesses,
    particularly in the energy and financial sectors. This has
    led to increased efficiency and competition in these
    industries.     Criminal justice reform: Trump
    signed
    the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences
    for nonviolent drug offenders and provide more resources for
    rehabilitation programs.     Military action: Trump
    ordered military strikes against ISIS targets in Syria and
    Yemen, which has been seen as a success in combating
    terrorism.     Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the
    North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and
    Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada
    Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one trade
    agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and
    increase trade between the two countries.     Space
    exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon
    by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
    surface. This marks a significant step forward in space
    exploration and could pave the way for further human
    settlements beyond Earth.     Judicial appointments:
    Trump appointed multiple conservative judges to federal
    courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
    and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
    balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.  >>>>>>>>    Border security: Trump secured funding for border
    wall prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers
    along the US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this
    approach remains controversial, it has been praised by some
    for its potential to deter illegal crossings. Â Â ÂÂ
    Voter
    ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
    present identification before casting their ballots in
    certain states. This move has been criticized by some as an
    attempt to suppress minority voting, but others see it as a
    necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.

    It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's
    presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on
    individual perspectives and beliefs. Some people may view
    these accomplishments positively, while others might disagree
    or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
    ----------------------------------------------------------- Note >>>>>>>> the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response compared >>>>>>>> to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual
    perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.

    I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased
    as the average human. I further allege that unless their
    'parents' change how the damthings are "trained", they're
    going to be both useless and dangerous.


    They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they?
    HawHawHaw!
    Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed? --
     bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate,  as
    examples of their mealy-mouthism(s)?

    Can I have all of them?

    BTW, just prezactly what does
    "mealy-mouth", mean to you?

    not plain and straightforward : devious

    You mean like, "All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780
    votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won this state, and
    flipping the state is a great testament to the country," Trump said.
    "I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a
    break." "It's just not possible to have lost Georgia. It's not
    possible," Trump said.?

    HawHawHaw!

    Nothing mealy-mouthed about that. "plain and straight forward". It's
    what he thought/thinks - straight from his brain to your ears/eyes.

    What does it mean to you?

    It's clear Trump is unprincipled mealy-brained.

    Mealy or not he is still one up on all you liberals… he has a brain.




    Maybe you better go ask AI what it
    thinks, just to be on the safe side?    It's got an opinion too! >>>>> HawHawHaw!

    What would make you think that I would think that AI had credibility?









    --
    Interesting scientific fact - your DNA is on everything you touch except
    your bag of coke.

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Frank Howell on Sat Sep 9 20:06:38 2023
    Frank Howell wrote:
    bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 9/8/2023 6:33 PM, bfh wrote:
    Don Lampson wrote:
    On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7,
    bfh wrote:
    kmiller wrote:
    On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
    11:50:45âÃ
    ƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÃ
    ¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’‚ÂÃÆ
    ‚¯AM

    UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily
    every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to
    include the part that has the least consensus
    among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bard Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more
    difficult to peel because the membrane is more
    tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------


    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use >>>>>>>>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many
    people find that the fresher an egg is, the more
    difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------


    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to
    peel than older eggs, which may have a thicker
    shell. ------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------
    ChatGPT Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to
    peel more easily than very fresh ones.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the
    fresh/older controversy by being equitable and
    inclusive. It recommends that you start with
    fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg
    different from an older fresh egg, and if so,
    what are the approximate temporal metrics of
    each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which
    one would you vote for? Or alternatively, which
    science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
    work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to
    peel easily don't put them in the water until you
    have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if
    you chill them quickly in ice water after you've
    cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
    everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light
    advertising analytics....because I've never literally
    met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to
    get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or I'll
    be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
    bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I
    probably ought to also get the tools out of my
    toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. Look, I
    mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
    strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable
    paroxysms of hilariousness is a unique possibility at
    the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a
    world class Googler. I
    donââ‚ÂÃâ€
    šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢t
    know why he
    doesnââ‚ÂÃâ
    šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢t
    google
    ââ‚ÂÂ
    ‚¬ÃƒÆ’…“

    Bidenââ‚ÂÃâ
    šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢s
    accomplishmentsââ‚Ãâ€
    ¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÆ’‚Â
    and
    regale us with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone,
    he wasn't even able to figure out what an "AI test
    question" is for. And I don't think I've ever known
    anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe it's
    congenital?


    Ask your AI friend to name all of
    Biden’s

    positive accomplishments as president. That should be a
    hoot.

    Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my
    friends. I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along
    "model collapse" already is.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8





    And as to your request (I also added Trump):
    -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>


    list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs As a neutral AI language
    model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's
    positive accomplishments during his presidency:

        COVID-19 Response:
    Biden's administration was
    successful in implementing policies to mitigate the spread of
    COVID-19, such as vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and
    social distancing measures. These efforts helped slow down
    the pandemic and save countless lives. Â Â
      Economic
    Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy experienced >>>>>>>> a significant recovery from the Great Recession.
    The president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory
    reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed
    to economic growth and job creation. Â Â
      Climate Change
    Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by signing
    executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
    promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
    negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed >>>>>>>> at addressing global warming. Â Â
      Immigration
    Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable
    immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
    for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided
    temporary protection to young undocumented immigrants who
    came to the US as minors. Â Â
      Criminal Justice Reform:
    Biden supported legislation aimed at reducing mass
    incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems, and
    providing support for victims of crime. His administration
    also worked to address police brutality and systemic racial
    disparities within law enforcement agencies.  >>>>>>>>   LGBTQ+
    Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
    throughout his political career. During his presidency, he
    signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+
    individuals from discrimination based on their sexual
    orientation or gender identity. Â Â
      Foreign Policy
    Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements included
    the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
    Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
    Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in
    shaping the response to the global refugee crisis.

    list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President LLaMa
    served by Perplexity Labs It is important to note that
    opinions about Donald Trump's presidency may vary widely
    depending on one's perspective and experiences. However, here
    are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that
    have been reported by various news outlets and
    organizations:

        Economic growth:
    During Trump's presidency, the US
    economy experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment
    rates and rising stock market indices. Â Â
      Tax cuts:
    Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which lowered
    income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
    been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
    spending. Â Â ÂÂÂ
    Deregulation: Trump issued numerous
    executive orders aimed at reducing regulations on businesses,
    particularly in the energy and financial sectors. This has
    led to increased efficiency and competition in these
    industries.     Criminal
    justice reform: Trump signed
    the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences
    for nonviolent drug offenders and provide more resources for
    rehabilitation programs. Â Â
      Military action: Trump
    ordered military strikes against ISIS targets in Syria and
    Yemen, which has been seen as a success in combating
    terrorism.     Trade
    deals: Trump renegotiated the
    North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and
    Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada
    Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one trade
    agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and
    increase trade between the two countries.  >>>>>>>>    Space >>>>>>>> exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon
    by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
    surface. This marks a significant step forward in space
    exploration and could pave the way for further human
    settlements beyond Earth. Â Â
      Judicial appointments:
    Trump appointed multiple conservative judges to federal
    courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
    and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
    balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.
    Â
       Border security: Trump secured
    funding for border
    wall prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers
    along the US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this
    approach remains controversial, it has been praised by some
    for its potential to deter illegal crossings. Â
      Voter
    ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
    present identification before casting their ballots in
    certain states. This move has been criticized by some as an
    attempt to suppress minority voting, but others see it as a
    necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.

    It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's
    presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on
    individual perspectives and beliefs. Some people may view
    these accomplishments positively, while others might disagree
    or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response
    compared to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual
    perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.

    I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased
    as the average human. I further allege that unless their
    'parents' change how the damthings are "trained", they're
    going to be both useless and dangerous.


    They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they?
    HawHawHaw!
    Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed? --
     bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate,  as >>>>> examples of their mealy-mouthism(s)?

    Can I have all of them?

    BTW, just prezactly what does
    "mealy-mouth", mean to you?

    : not plain and straightforward : devious

    You mean like, "All I want to do is this: I just want to find
    11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won this
    state, and flipping the state is a great testament to the country,"
    Trump said. "I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes.
    Give me a break." "It's just not possible to have lost Georgia.
    It's not possible," Trump said.?

    HawHawHaw!

    Nothing mealy-mouthed about that. "plain and straight forward". It's
    what he thought/thinks - straight from his brain to your ears/eyes.

    What does it mean to you?

    It's clear Trump is unprincipled mealy-brained.

    But he ain't mealy-mouthed.


    Maybe you better go ask AI what it
    thinks, just to be on the safe side?    It's got an
    opinion too!
    HawHawHaw!

    What would make you think that I would think that AI had credibility?








    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From Anonymous@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Oct 5 19:01:34 2023
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    George.Anthony wrote:
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
    how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

    To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part >>>>>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.

    -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older >>>>>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane >>>>>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
    -------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
    eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
    the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
    -------------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
    fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
    eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
    ------------------------------------------------

    So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

    ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
    with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
    fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------

    So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy >>>>>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
    with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
    from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
    temporal metrics of each?

    If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote >>>>>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

    -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

    I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
    don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
    boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
    after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

    LOL!
    Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything >>>>> except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never >>>>> literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm >>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for >>>>> my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital >>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to >>>>> also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. >>>>> Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
    tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is >>>>> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.


    He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class Googler. >>>> I don’t know why he doesn’t google “ Biden’s
    accomplishments” and regale us
    with that infinite list.


    And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't even
    able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
    think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
    it's congenital?


    Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive accomplishments as >> president. That should be a hoot.

    Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my friends.
    I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along "model collapse"
    already is.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8

    And as to your request (I also added Trump): --------------------------------------------------------------------
    list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
    As a neutral AI language model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's positive accomplishments during his presidency:

    COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was successful in
    implementing policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, such as
    vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and social distancing measures.
    These efforts helped slow down the pandemic and save countless lives.
    Economic Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy
    experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession. The
    president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed to economic growth
    and job creation.
    Climate Change Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority
    by signing executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
    promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
    negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed at
    addressing global warming.
    Immigration Reform: During Biden's term, there were several
    notable immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
    for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary
    protection to young undocumented immigrants who came to the US as minors.
    Criminal Justice Reform: Biden supported legislation aimed at
    reducing mass incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems,
    and providing support for victims of crime. His administration also
    worked to address police brutality and systemic racial disparities
    within law enforcement agencies.
    LGBTQ+ Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights throughout his political career. During his presidency, he signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+ individuals from
    discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender identity.
    Foreign Policy Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy
    achievements included the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of
    relations with Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in shaping the response to the global refugee crisis.

    list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President
    LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
    It is important to note that opinions about Donald Trump's presidency
    may vary widely depending on one's perspective and experiences.
    However, here are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency
    that have been reported by various news outlets and organizations:

    Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US economy
    experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment rates and rising
    stock market indices.
    Tax cuts: Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which
    lowered income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
    been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer spending.
    Deregulation: Trump issued numerous executive orders aimed at
    reducing regulations on businesses, particularly in the energy and
    financial sectors. This has led to increased efficiency and
    competition in these industries.
    Criminal justice reform: Trump signed the First Step Act in 2018,
    which aimed to reduce sentences for nonviolent drug offenders and
    provide more resources for rehabilitation programs.
    Military action: Trump ordered military strikes against ISIS
    targets in Syria and Yemen, which has been seen as a success in
    combating terrorism.
    Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the North American Free Trade
    Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one
    trade agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and increase
    trade between the two countries.
    Space exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the
    moon by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
    surface. This marks a significant step forward in space exploration
    and could pave the way for further human settlements beyond Earth.
    Judicial appointments: Trump appointed multiple conservative
    judges to federal courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
    balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.
    Border security: Trump secured funding for border wall prototypes
    and took steps to enhance physical barriers along the US-Mexico
    border. While the effectiveness of this approach remains
    controversial, it has been praised by some for its potential to deter
    illegal crossings.
    Voter ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
    present identification before casting their ballots in certain states.
    This move has been criticized by some as an attempt to suppress
    minority voting, but others see it as a necessary step to prevent
    fraudulent votes.

    It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on individual perspectives and
    beliefs. Some people may view these accomplishments positively, while
    others might disagree or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response compared
    to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.

    I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased as the
    average human. I further allege that unless their 'parents' change how
    the damthings are "trained", they're going to be both useless and
    dangerous.


    Given past responses, this is not surprising.

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