• Re: Giuliani Is Gonna Need Lots More Money

    From bfh@21:1/5 to kmiller on Fri Sep 1 19:29:13 2023
    kmiller wrote:
    "“Today we finally got some semblance of accountability for one of
    the darkest chapters of Donald Trump’s attempted coup,” Hayes said.

    The former Trump attorney and New York City mayor lost the civil
    lawsuit after failing to turn over discovery documents. He was ordered
    by a federal judge to pay nearly $133,000 in sanctions.

    Fulton County election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss sued
    Giuliani in December 2021 after he spread false claims that they
    helped rig the 2020 election in Georgia. The mother and daughter say
    they were harassed, threatened and put in danger as a result, and are seeking an unspecified amount in damages.

    Giuliani now faces a civil trial to determine any damages in the case.

    Giuliani has conceded he made false claims about the women, whom he
    accused of ballot stuffing and “passing around USB ports as if they are vials of heroin or cocaine” to infiltrate voting machines.

    Hayes said the story was “past delusion.”

    “What Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump and the rest of them, what they did to these women was one of the most disgusting aspects of this
    entire episode,” he added. “And now, he’s going to have to pay
    for it.”

    He said the outcome was an important step toward real accountability
    for Trump and his allies.

    “Trump and his confederates act like no one will ever hold them accountable. ... The only thing that will change their behavior is to
    do the thing that they don’t think will happen: hold them accountable,” Hayes said.

    “And while Giuliani losing a civil defamation case is not the same thing as facing years in prison in Georgia, or a potential federal indictment down the line, it is a kind of down payment on actual accountability,” he added."

    https://news.yahoo.com/chris-hayes-cheers-win-1-142534979.html

    You retrumplicans may want to start sending him some money to help him
    pay for the spaghetti that stuck. HawHawHaw!

    I don't know if you're including me in that pot, but I've never given
    money to any politician (but I did waste some money on a lawyer once).
    If a politician wants a job or out of jail, they can buy it with theirownselves' money.

    --
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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 1 16:18:47 2023
    "“Today we finally got some semblance of accountability for one of the darkest chapters of Donald Trump’s attempted coup,” Hayes said.

    The former Trump attorney and New York City mayor lost the civil lawsuit
    after failing to turn over discovery documents. He was ordered by a
    federal judge to pay nearly $133,000 in sanctions.

    Fulton County election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss sued Giuliani
    in December 2021 after he spread false claims that they helped rig the
    2020 election in Georgia. The mother and daughter say they were
    harassed, threatened and put in danger as a result, and are seeking an unspecified amount in damages.

    Giuliani now faces a civil trial to determine any damages in the case.

    Giuliani has conceded he made false claims about the women, whom he
    accused of ballot stuffing and “passing around USB ports as if they are
    vials of heroin or cocaine” to infiltrate voting machines.

    Hayes said the story was “past delusion.”

    “What Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump and the rest of them, what they did
    to these women was one of the most disgusting aspects of this entire episode,” he added. “And now, he’s going to have to pay for it.”

    He said the outcome was an important step toward real accountability for
    Trump and his allies.

    “Trump and his confederates act like no one will ever hold them
    accountable. ... The only thing that will change their behavior is to do
    the thing that they don’t think will happen: hold them accountable,”
    Hayes said.

    “And while Giuliani losing a civil defamation case is not the same thing
    as facing years in prison in Georgia, or a potential federal indictment
    down the line, it is a kind of down payment on actual accountability,”
    he added."

    https://news.yahoo.com/chris-hayes-cheers-win-1-142534979.html

    You retrumplicans may want to start sending him some money to help him
    pay for the spaghetti that stuck. HawHawHaw!

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to kmiller on Fri Sep 1 19:41:48 2023
    On 9/1/2023 6:18 PM, kmiller wrote:

    The former Trump attorney and New York City mayor lost the civil lawsuit after failing to turn over discovery documents. He was ordered by a
    federal judge to pay nearly $133,000 in sanctions.

    I notice there is no mention in your propaganda about the difficulty the
    Mayor had in turning over documents on account of them all being held by
    the fucking FBI after one of their ridiculous raids. It won't survive
    an appeal to an actual fair court with an impartial judge. You libtards
    should get used to that. You're gonna be seeing a lot of that in the
    future.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to kmiller on Fri Sep 1 20:32:10 2023
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:18:53 PM UTC-7, kmiller wrote:
    "“Today we finally got some semblance of accountability for one of the darkest chapters of Donald Trump’s attempted coup,” Hayes said.

    The former Trump attorney and New York City mayor lost the civil lawsuit after failing to turn over discovery documents. He was ordered by a
    federal judge to pay nearly $133,000 in sanctions.

    Fulton County election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss sued Giuliani
    in December 2021 after he spread false claims that they helped rig the
    2020 election in Georgia. The mother and daughter say they were
    harassed, threatened and put in danger as a result, and are seeking an unspecified amount in damages.

    Giuliani now faces a civil trial to determine any damages in the case.

    Giuliani has conceded he made false claims about the women, whom he
    accused of ballot stuffing and “passing around USB ports as if they are vials of heroin or cocaine” to infiltrate voting machines.

    Hayes said the story was “past delusion.”

    “What Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump and the rest of them, what they did to these women was one of the most disgusting aspects of this entire episode,” he added. “And now, he’s going to have to pay for it.”

    He said the outcome was an important step toward real accountability for Trump and his allies.

    “Trump and his confederates act like no one will ever hold them accountable. ... The only thing that will change their behavior is to do
    the thing that they don’t think will happen: hold them accountable,” Hayes said.

    “And while Giuliani losing a civil defamation case is not the same thing as facing years in prison in Georgia, or a potential federal indictment
    down the line, it is a kind of down payment on actual accountability,”
    he added."

    https://news.yahoo.com/chris-hayes-cheers-win-1-142534979.html

    You retrumplicans may want to start sending him some money to help him
    pay for the spaghetti that stuck. HawHawHaw!

    hmmmm, I dunno. One of the things the cult is known for is making human sacrifices by throwing people under the bus. Giuliani is reported to be broke. The way he had been living that would make sense. Naturally, there's a big scramble for funds.

    "‘Trump isn’t funding any of us’: Co-defendants in Georgia case are struggling with mounting legal bills"

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/01/politics/cash-crunch-trump-georgia-co-defendants-legal-bills/index.html

    TB

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  • From kmiller@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sat Sep 2 07:14:41 2023
    On 9/1/2023 8:32 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:18:53 PM UTC-7, kmiller wrote:
    "“Today we finally got some semblance of accountability for one of the
    darkest chapters of Donald Trump’s attempted coup,” Hayes said.

    The former Trump attorney and New York City mayor lost the civil lawsuit
    after failing to turn over discovery documents. He was ordered by a
    federal judge to pay nearly $133,000 in sanctions.

    Fulton County election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss sued Giuliani
    in December 2021 after he spread false claims that they helped rig the
    2020 election in Georgia. The mother and daughter say they were
    harassed, threatened and put in danger as a result, and are seeking an
    unspecified amount in damages.

    Giuliani now faces a civil trial to determine any damages in the case.

    Giuliani has conceded he made false claims about the women, whom he
    accused of ballot stuffing and “passing around USB ports as if they are
    vials of heroin or cocaine” to infiltrate voting machines.

    Hayes said the story was “past delusion.”

    “What Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump and the rest of them, what they did >> to these women was one of the most disgusting aspects of this entire
    episode,” he added. “And now, he’s going to have to pay for it.”

    He said the outcome was an important step toward real accountability for
    Trump and his allies.

    “Trump and his confederates act like no one will ever hold them
    accountable. ... The only thing that will change their behavior is to do
    the thing that they don’t think will happen: hold them accountable,”
    Hayes said.

    “And while Giuliani losing a civil defamation case is not the same thing >> as facing years in prison in Georgia, or a potential federal indictment
    down the line, it is a kind of down payment on actual accountability,”
    he added."

    https://news.yahoo.com/chris-hayes-cheers-win-1-142534979.html

    You retrumplicans may want to start sending him some money to help him
    pay for the spaghetti that stuck. HawHawHaw!

    hmmmm, I dunno. One of the things the cult is known for is making human sacrifices by throwing people under the bus. Giuliani is reported to be broke. The way he had been living that would make sense. Naturally, there's a big scramble for
    funds.

    "‘Trump isn’t funding any of us’: Co-defendants in Georgia case are struggling with mounting legal bills"

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/01/politics/cash-crunch-trump-georgia-co-defendants-legal-bills/index.html

    TB


    Don't you just feel so sorry for them? bfh goes on and on and on about
    dumbass democrats but, you know, I looked and looked and looked and I
    couldn't find one of these felony indicted co-0conspirators who is a
    democrat?

    Then I looked at all them doofuses federally indicted for various Jan 6
    crimes and sedition and there again - same story. Not a democrat to be
    found.

    HawHawHawHawHawHaw!

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to kmiller on Sat Sep 2 10:00:13 2023
    On 9/2/2023 9:14 AM, kmiller wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 8:32 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 4:18:53 PM UTC-7, kmiller wrote:
    "“Today we finally got some semblance of accountability for one of the >>> darkest chapters of Donald Trump’s attempted coup,” Hayes said.

    The former Trump attorney and New York City mayor lost the civil lawsuit >>> after failing to turn over discovery documents. He was ordered by a
    federal judge to pay nearly $133,000 in sanctions.

    Fulton County election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss sued Giuliani >>> in December 2021 after he spread false claims that they helped rig the
    2020 election in Georgia. The mother and daughter say they were
    harassed, threatened and put in danger as a result, and are seeking an
    unspecified amount in damages.

    Giuliani now faces a civil trial to determine any damages in the case.

    Giuliani has conceded he made false claims about the women, whom he
    accused of ballot stuffing and “passing around USB ports as if they are >>> vials of heroin or cocaine” to infiltrate voting machines.

    Hayes said the story was “past delusion.”

    “What Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump and the rest of them, what they did >>> to these women was one of the most disgusting aspects of this entire
    episode,” he added. “And now, he’s going to have to pay for it.” >>>
    He said the outcome was an important step toward real accountability for >>> Trump and his allies.

    “Trump and his confederates act like no one will ever hold them
    accountable. ... The only thing that will change their behavior is to do >>> the thing that they don’t think will happen: hold them accountable,” >>> Hayes said.

    “And while Giuliani losing a civil defamation case is not the same thing >>> as facing years in prison in Georgia, or a potential federal indictment
    down the line, it is a kind of down payment on actual accountability,” >>> he added."

    https://news.yahoo.com/chris-hayes-cheers-win-1-142534979.html

    You retrumplicans may want to start sending him some money to help him
    pay for the spaghetti that stuck. HawHawHaw!

              hmmmm, I dunno. One of the things the cult is known for is
    making human sacrifices by throwing people under the bus. Giuliani is
    reported to be broke. The way he had been living that would make
    sense. Naturally, there's a big scramble for funds.

    "‘Trump isn’t funding any of us’: Co-defendants in Georgia case are
    struggling with mounting legal bills"

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/01/politics/cash-crunch-trump-georgia-co-defendants-legal-bills/index.html

    TB


    Don't you just feel so sorry for them? bfh goes on and on and on about dumbass democrats but, you know, I looked and looked and looked and I couldn't find one of these felony indicted co-0conspirators who is a democrat?

    Then I looked at all them doofuses federally indicted for various Jan 6 crimes and sedition and there again - same story. Not a democrat to be
    found.

    HawHawHawHawHawHaw!

    Well, duh. This is what a corrupt prosecutor looks like. In Georgia
    they had exculpatory evidence withheld for obvious political reasons.
    Should result in Willis losing her license to practice law, at a minimum.

    "A transcript of the Georgia Republican electors’ Dec. 14, 2020,
    meeting, obtained by The Federalist, explicitly shows the intent behind
    casting alternate electors was not to impersonate public officers, as
    Willis alleged, but to lawfully preserve Trump’s legal challenge to the state’s election results."

    <https://www.wnd.com/2023/09/report-georgia-prosecutor-filed-trump-charges-holding-exonerating-evidence/>

    The fact that liberals are so quick to accept this type of corruption
    from the justice department speaks volumes to where we're headed in this country. All of this is costly, takes time, and is meant to interfere
    with the upcoming election and discourage anyone from challenging
    anything the left is doing. Democrats are willing to do anything for
    power, and will continue to do so. Never thought I'd see the day this
    type of action could happen in America. Yet, here we are. And the
    stupid dem voters just laugh thinking they are gonna win, thinking all
    of this is legit. This is creating a very unhealthy environment for our country. I sincerely hope all hell does not break out.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to sticks on Sat Sep 2 10:21:38 2023
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:41:51 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 6:18 PM, kmiller wrote:

    The former Trump attorney and New York City mayor lost the civil lawsuit after failing to turn over discovery documents. He was ordered by a federal judge to pay nearly $133,000 in sanctions.
    I notice there is no mention in your propaganda about the difficulty the Mayor had in turning over documents on account of them all being held by
    the fucking FBI after one of their ridiculous raids. It won't survive
    an appeal to an actual fair court with an impartial judge. You libtards should get used to that. You're gonna be seeing a lot of that in the
    future.

    LOL Thank you. I love it. Giuliani admitted that he slandered those people without any proof--and you look forward to the day when he somehow gets off on a technicality. He can't be pardoned out from under this one. If anyone gets any money out of
    this it will be other people's money. While you remain firmly in denial. It's simply beautiful.

    TB

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sat Sep 2 17:03:17 2023
    On 9/2/2023 12:21 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:41:51 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 6:18 PM, kmiller wrote:

    The former Trump attorney and New York City mayor lost the civil lawsuit >>> after failing to turn over discovery documents. He was ordered by a
    federal judge to pay nearly $133,000 in sanctions.
    I notice there is no mention in your propaganda about the difficulty the
    Mayor had in turning over documents on account of them all being held by
    the fucking FBI after one of their ridiculous raids. It won't survive
    an appeal to an actual fair court with an impartial judge. You libtards
    should get used to that. You're gonna be seeing a lot of that in the
    future.

    LOL Thank you. I love it. Giuliani admitted that he slandered those people without any proof--and you look forward to the day when he somehow gets off on a technicality. He can't be pardoned out from under this one. If anyone gets any money out
    of this it will be other people's money. While you remain firmly in denial. It's simply beautiful.

    First off, I find you a really disgusting person. Most of you liberals
    are like that these days. You think the same of conservatives. It's
    just where we're at.
    I think the mayor is a good man, and think he has a right to a fair day
    in court. If he thinks his words were constitutionally protected speech
    he should have the right to argue so. If he acted inappropriately, he
    should be held accountable. The system right now, is stacked against conservatives in these venues. They cannot get a fair shake. So relish
    your temporary victories while you can. They won't last forever. A
    system like this will only end in unpleasant ways.

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  • From Technobarbarian@21:1/5 to sticks on Sat Sep 2 15:42:56 2023
    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 3:03:23 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
    On 9/2/2023 12:21 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:41:51 PM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 6:18 PM, kmiller wrote:

    The former Trump attorney and New York City mayor lost the civil lawsuit >>> after failing to turn over discovery documents. He was ordered by a
    federal judge to pay nearly $133,000 in sanctions.
    I notice there is no mention in your propaganda about the difficulty the >> Mayor had in turning over documents on account of them all being held by >> the fucking FBI after one of their ridiculous raids. It won't survive
    an appeal to an actual fair court with an impartial judge. You libtards >> should get used to that. You're gonna be seeing a lot of that in the
    future.

    LOL Thank you. I love it. Giuliani admitted that he slandered those people without any proof--and you look forward to the day when he somehow gets off on a technicality. He can't be pardoned out from under this one. If anyone gets any money out of
    this it will be other people's money. While you remain firmly in denial. It's simply beautiful.
    First off, I find you a really disgusting person. Most of you liberals
    are like that these days. You think the same of conservatives. It's
    just where we're at.
    I think the mayor is a good man, and think he has a right to a fair day
    in court. If he thinks his words were constitutionally protected speech
    he should have the right to argue so. If he acted inappropriately, he
    should be held accountable. The system right now, is stacked against conservatives in these venues. They cannot get a fair shake. So relish
    your temporary victories while you can. They won't last forever. A
    system like this will only end in unpleasant ways.

    Thank you. He had a fair day in court, with more coming.

    The rules for Republicans have remained the same for many years.

    Rule #1 Republicans can't possibly do anything wrong, so anyone who even hints otherwise is obviously corrupt to their core.

    Rule #2 If it looks like a Republican was doing something wrong they were obviously doing it for a good cause. So, It's OK. Nothing to see here. Move along.

    "Law and order" was NEVER about Republicans. It has always been about people who aren't like them. They're so pure it couldn't possibly be about them--under any circumstances. So there is only one possible explanation. The whole justice system
    must be corrupt. No further proof is needed. <the sound of not laughing>

    TB

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Technobarbarian on Sat Sep 2 19:18:33 2023
    Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 3:03:23 PM UTC-7, sticks
    wrote:
    On 9/2/2023 12:21 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
    On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:41:51 PM UTC-7, sticks
    wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 6:18 PM, kmiller wrote:

    The former Trump attorney and New York City mayor lost the
    civil lawsuit after failing to turn over discovery
    documents. He was ordered by a federal judge to pay nearly
    $133,000 in sanctions.
    I notice there is no mention in your propaganda about the
    difficulty the Mayor had in turning over documents on account
    of them all being held by the fucking FBI after one of their
    ridiculous raids. It won't survive an appeal to an actual
    fair court with an impartial judge. You libtards should get
    used to that. You're gonna be seeing a lot of that in the
    future.

    LOL Thank you. I love it. Giuliani admitted that he slandered
    those people without any proof--and you look forward to the day
    when he somehow gets off on a technicality. He can't be
    pardoned out from under this one. If anyone gets any money out
    of this it will be other people's money. While you remain
    firmly in denial. It's simply beautiful.
    First off, I find you a really disgusting person. Most of you
    liberals are like that these days. You think the same of
    conservatives. It's just where we're at. I think the mayor is a
    good man, and think he has a right to a fair day in court. If he
    thinks his words were constitutionally protected speech he should
    have the right to argue so. If he acted inappropriately, he
    should be held accountable. The system right now, is stacked
    against conservatives in these venues. They cannot get a fair
    shake. So relish your temporary victories while you can. They
    won't last forever. A system like this will only end in
    unpleasant ways.

    Thank you. He had a fair day in court, with more coming.

    The rules for Republicans have remained the same for many years.

    Rule #1 Republicans can't possibly do anything wrong, so anyone who
    even hints otherwise is obviously corrupt to their core.

    Rule #2 If it looks like a Republican was doing something wrong
    they were obviously doing it for a good cause. So, It's OK. Nothing
    to see here. Move along.

    "Law and order" was NEVER about Republicans. It has always been
    about people who aren't like them. They're so pure it couldn't
    possibly be about them--under any circumstances. So there is only
    one possible explanation. The whole justice system must be corrupt.
    No further proof is needed. <the sound of not laughing>

    HawHawHaw! <the sound of laughing>


    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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