....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until more than a dozen
come here looking for sanctuary.
HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not so dumb after all. They've already asked for TPS for these hundreds of thousands - maybe millions. TPS will allow them to fill all the jobs that have been
"created". After that, DEI will be invoked so that they'll be able to
vote - by mail, of course.
Got some smart dumbasses out there, eh?
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:15:34 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until more than a
dozen come here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not so dumb after
all. They've already asked for TPS for these hundreds of
thousands - maybe millions. TPS will allow them to fill all the
jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI will be invoked so
that they'll be able to vote - by mail, of course. Got some smart
dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous retrumplican
shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration enforcement agents would
continue to work, as would customs officers. The Coast Guard would
continue operations." They aren't likely to be paid until the
shutdown ends, but that shouldn't be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Secret
Service and other federal law enforcement agencies would remain on
the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases against
former President Donald Trump, would continue. Most civil
litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:15:34 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until more than a
dozen come here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not so dumb after
all. They've already asked for TPS for these hundreds of
thousands - maybe millions. TPS will allow them to fill all the
jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI will be invoked so
that they'll be able to vote - by mail, of course. Got some smart
dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous retrumplican
shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration enforcement agents would
continue to work, as would customs officers. The Coast Guard would
continue operations." They aren't likely to be paid until the
shutdown ends, but that shouldn't be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Secret
Service and other federal law enforcement agencies would remain on
the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases against
former President Donald Trump, would continue. Most civil
litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
What is your opinion of the current border situation?
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:15:34 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until more than a
dozen come here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not so dumb after
all. They've already asked for TPS for these hundreds of
thousands - maybe millions. TPS will allow them to fill all the
jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI will be invoked so
that they'll be able to vote - by mail, of course. Got some smart
dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous retrumplican
shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration enforcement agents would
continue to work, as would customs officers. The Coast Guard would continue operations." They aren't likely to be paid until the
shutdown ends, but that shouldn't be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Secret Service and other federal law enforcement agencies would remain on
the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases against
former President Donald Trump, would continue. Most civil
litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/What is your opinion of the current border situation?
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On 9/21/2023 4:56 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:15:34 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until more than a
dozen come here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not so dumb after
all. They've already asked for TPS for these hundreds of
thousands - maybe millions. TPS will allow them to fill all the
jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI will be invoked so
that they'll be able to vote - by mail, of course. Got some smart
dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous retrumplican
shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration enforcement agents would
continue to work, as would customs officers. The Coast Guard would
continue operations." They aren't likely to be paid until the
shutdown ends, but that shouldn't be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Secret
Service and other federal law enforcement agencies would remain on
the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases against
former President Donald Trump, would continue. Most civil
litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
What is your opinion of the current border situation?
"Situation
noun
1. manner of being situated; location or position with reference to environment:
The situation of the house allowed for a beautiful view.
2. a place or locality."
Yes, I think the border is a situation currently and probably
futurely. HawHawHaw!
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 4:56:12 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:What is your opinion of the current border situation?
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:15:34 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until more than
a dozen come here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not so dumb
after all. They've already asked for TPS for these hundreds
of thousands - maybe millions. TPS will allow them to fill
all the jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI will
be invoked so that they'll be able to vote - by mail, of
course. Got some smart dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous
retrumplican shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration
enforcement agents would continue to work, as would customs
officers. The Coast Guard would continue operations." They
aren't likely to be paid until the shutdown ends, but that
shouldn't be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the
Secret Service and other federal law enforcement agencies would
remain on the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to
work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases against
former President Donald Trump, would continue. Most civil
litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
As I have previously mentioned: If you want to have any hope of
getting an answer to a question about opinions, you will have to
start by posting yours. It's just too damn easy for you to sit
there and squirt out questions. I offer no guarantees. As I have
also previously mentioned--many times: I am here for my own
amazement and amusement. You might not get an answer or one that
you will like. You would probably increase your odds of getting a
straight answer if your opinion doesn't require the usual double
talk and bafflegab. Or maybe not. Who knows? I lost interest in
word games a long time ago.
Just as a matter of record: I have probably spent more time near
the border and in Mexico than anyone else here. I'm sure I've
looked at this issue and posted about it more than anyone else
here. So, at the moment, unless something changes drastically, I
don't find this subject particularly exciting and dynamic. I just
found it amusing that the same people who are most excited by this
issue want to shut down the government and stop paying the
essential workers protecting the border. This is reported to lead
to a lot of absenteeism because most of those people need to find a
way to pay the rent and buy food.
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 4:56:12 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:What is your opinion of the current border situation?
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:15:34 PM UTC-7, bfh >>> wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until more than
a dozen come here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not so dumb
after all. They've already asked for TPS for these hundreds
of thousands - maybe millions. TPS will allow them to fill
all the jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI will
be invoked so that they'll be able to vote - by mail, of
course. Got some smart dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous
retrumplican shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration
enforcement agents would continue to work, as would customs
officers. The Coast Guard would continue operations." They
aren't likely to be paid until the shutdown ends, but that
shouldn't be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the
Secret Service and other federal law enforcement agencies would
remain on the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to
work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases against
former President Donald Trump, would continue. Most civil
litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
As I have previously mentioned: If you want to have any hope of
getting an answer to a question about opinions, you will have to
start by posting yours. It's just too damn easy for you to sit
there and squirt out questions. I offer no guarantees. As I have
also previously mentioned--many times: I am here for my own
amazement and amusement. You might not get an answer or one that
you will like. You would probably increase your odds of getting a
straight answer if your opinion doesn't require the usual double
talk and bafflegab. Or maybe not. Who knows? I lost interest in
word games a long time ago.
Just as a matter of record: I have probably spent more time nearI am not surprised at that one, either.
the border and in Mexico than anyone else here. I'm sure I've
looked at this issue and posted about it more than anyone else
here. So, at the moment, unless something changes drastically, I
don't find this subject particularly exciting and dynamic. I just
found it amusing that the same people who are most excited by this
issue want to shut down the government and stop paying the
essential workers protecting the border. This is reported to lead
to a lot of absenteeism because most of those people need to find a
way to pay the rent and buy food.
However comma I can give you my opinion in 21 words.
Biden's policies have fucked it up to the point that the border is
just a thin black line on Google Maps.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Technobarbarian wrote:years ago because I thought it was a pretty good one.
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:08:51 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 4:56:12 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:What is your opinion of the current border situation?
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:15:34 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until more than
a dozen come here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not so dumb
after all. They've already asked for TPS for these hundreds
of thousands - maybe millions. TPS will allow them to fill
all the jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI will
be invoked so that they'll be able to vote - by mail, of
course. Got some smart dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous
retrumplican shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration
enforcement agents would continue to work, as would customs
officers. The Coast Guard would continue operations." They
aren't likely to be paid until the shutdown ends, but that
shouldn't be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the
Secret Service and other federal law enforcement agencies would
remain on the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to
work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases against
former President Donald Trump, would continue. Most civil
litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
I am not surprised at that one, either.-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
As I have previously mentioned: If you want to have any hope of
getting an answer to a question about opinions, you will have to
start by posting yours. It's just too damn easy for you to sit
there and squirt out questions. I offer no guarantees. As I have
also previously mentioned--many times: I am here for my own
amazement and amusement. You might not get an answer or one that
you will like. You would probably increase your odds of getting a
straight answer if your opinion doesn't require the usual double
talk and bafflegab. Or maybe not. Who knows? I lost interest in
word games a long time ago.
Just as a matter of record: I have probably spent more time near
the border and in Mexico than anyone else here. I'm sure I've
looked at this issue and posted about it more than anyone else
here. So, at the moment, unless something changes drastically, I
don't find this subject particularly exciting and dynamic. I just
found it amusing that the same people who are most excited by this
issue want to shut down the government and stop paying the
essential workers protecting the border. This is reported to lead
to a lot of absenteeism because most of those people need to find a
way to pay the rent and buy food.
However comma I can give you my opinion in 21 words.
Biden's policies have fucked it up to the point that the border is
just a thin black line on Google Maps.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
LOL Since I've said this stuff more than once it shouldn't be any surprise, except for the people with CRS. We have had people here with far more experience on the border than me. So, I went and looked up Albert's answer to this question a couple
bill horne wrote on Jul 8, 2021, 9:30:34 AM
"What's your personal opinion of the current border situation and
Biden's handling of it?"
Albert posted this response Jul 11, 2021, 1:52:20 PM
"I was born in Tucson and we moved to Douglas (on the border) when I
was about 10 years old and was raised there. It seems to me that
there's always been a border situation with Mexico at Douglas dating
all away back before statehood for Arizona.
We had a chief of police by the name of Percy Bowden that was
originally hired by Phelps Dodge way back in the 30s as a strike
breaker when the miners in Bisbee were on strike. He was one of 100
men that was hired by Phelps Dodge in El Paso and each was given a
3030 register and set in to the homes of the strikers in Bisbee
packing them all up and putting them on flat cars on the Southern
Pacific Railroad and sending them to New Mexico where they were all
dumped out in the middle of the desert somewhere in New Mexico.
Now, Percy Bowden went on to become chief of police for Douglas
Arizona.
There was one incident where there was a man from Mexico that was
released from the Arizona penitentiary that when he was sentenced, he swore that he would kill Percy Bowden at the sentencing. He was
married to a woman living in Douglas and when he got out the
penitentiary he was deported back to Mexico.
He had been sneaking back into Douglas at night to be with his wife
and kids and one night Percy's Police Department was waiting for them
and he went back over the fence into Mexico and some of the Douglas
police followed him into Mexico and caught him a little over 200 yards
in Mexico. The Mexican federal police found him lying face down with several bullet holes in his back.
The Mexican federal police shut their side of the border down
completely immediately. Which meant because both Douglas and Agua
Prieta lost a lot of revenue from the trade.
There were several incidents where Douglas police officers were shot
at from across the line, fortunately no one was hurt but everyone was scared.
So far I haven't seen anything that Pres. Biden is doing anything
about the border situation, but I've been busy doing other things that
are far more important to me than Biden and the border because like I
said there's always been some kind of border situation in my lifetime.
We have a next-door neighbor of ours that started flying the our flag upside down because " of that SOB in the White House".I pointed out to
him that that flag that he had turned upside down represented everyone
in the United States and that symbol was only to be used in dire emergencies. Apparently the VFW and American Legion got all over him
and he straightened up his act.
Albert"
TB
That was 2021. Since you apparently have no opinion of your own, maybe
you could ask Albert what he thinks about it now. And I'll bet there's
been no border situation in his lifetime that's like it is now...........unless he was alive when Santa Anna came up.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:08:51 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:couple years ago because I thought it was a pretty good one.
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 4:56:12 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:What is your opinion of the current border situation?
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:15:34 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until more than
a dozen come here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not so dumb
after all. They've already asked for TPS for these hundreds
of thousands - maybe millions. TPS will allow them to fill
all the jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI will
be invoked so that they'll be able to vote - by mail, of
course. Got some smart dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous
retrumplican shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration
enforcement agents would continue to work, as would customs
officers. The Coast Guard would continue operations." They
aren't likely to be paid until the shutdown ends, but that
shouldn't be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the
Secret Service and other federal law enforcement agencies would
remain on the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to
work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases against
former President Donald Trump, would continue. Most civil
litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
I am not surprised at that one, either.-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
As I have previously mentioned: If you want to have any hope of
getting an answer to a question about opinions, you will have to
start by posting yours. It's just too damn easy for you to sit
there and squirt out questions. I offer no guarantees. As I have
also previously mentioned--many times: I am here for my own
amazement and amusement. You might not get an answer or one that
you will like. You would probably increase your odds of getting a
straight answer if your opinion doesn't require the usual double
talk and bafflegab. Or maybe not. Who knows? I lost interest in
word games a long time ago.
Just as a matter of record: I have probably spent more time near
the border and in Mexico than anyone else here. I'm sure I've
looked at this issue and posted about it more than anyone else
here. So, at the moment, unless something changes drastically, I
don't find this subject particularly exciting and dynamic. I just
found it amusing that the same people who are most excited by this
issue want to shut down the government and stop paying the
essential workers protecting the border. This is reported to lead
to a lot of absenteeism because most of those people need to find a
way to pay the rent and buy food.
However comma I can give you my opinion in 21 words.
Biden's policies have fucked it up to the point that the border is
just a thin black line on Google Maps.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
LOL Since I've said this stuff more than once it shouldn't be any surprise, except for the people with CRS. We have had people here with far more experience on the border than me. So, I went and looked up Albert's answer to this question a
bill horne wrote on Jul 8, 2021, 9:30:34 AM
"What's your personal opinion of the current border situation and
Biden's handling of it?"
Albert posted this response Jul 11, 2021, 1:52:20 PM
"I was born in Tucson and we moved to Douglas (on the border) when I
was about 10 years old and was raised there. It seems to me that
there's always been a border situation with Mexico at Douglas dating
all away back before statehood for Arizona.
We had a chief of police by the name of Percy Bowden that was
originally hired by Phelps Dodge way back in the 30s as a strike
breaker when the miners in Bisbee were on strike. He was one of 100
men that was hired by Phelps Dodge in El Paso and each was given a
3030 register and set in to the homes of the strikers in Bisbee
packing them all up and putting them on flat cars on the Southern
Pacific Railroad and sending them to New Mexico where they were all
dumped out in the middle of the desert somewhere in New Mexico.
Now, Percy Bowden went on to become chief of police for Douglas
Arizona.
There was one incident where there was a man from Mexico that was
released from the Arizona penitentiary that when he was sentenced, he
swore that he would kill Percy Bowden at the sentencing. He was
married to a woman living in Douglas and when he got out the
penitentiary he was deported back to Mexico.
He had been sneaking back into Douglas at night to be with his wife
and kids and one night Percy's Police Department was waiting for them
and he went back over the fence into Mexico and some of the Douglas
police followed him into Mexico and caught him a little over 200 yards
in Mexico. The Mexican federal police found him lying face down with
several bullet holes in his back.
The Mexican federal police shut their side of the border down
completely immediately. Which meant because both Douglas and Agua
Prieta lost a lot of revenue from the trade.
There were several incidents where Douglas police officers were shot
at from across the line, fortunately no one was hurt but everyone was
scared.
So far I haven't seen anything that Pres. Biden is doing anything
about the border situation, but I've been busy doing other things that
are far more important to me than Biden and the border because like I
said there's always been some kind of border situation in my lifetime.
We have a next-door neighbor of ours that started flying the our flag
upside down because " of that SOB in the White House".I pointed out to
him that that flag that he had turned upside down represented everyone
in the United States and that symbol was only to be used in dire
emergencies. Apparently the VFW and American Legion got all over him
and he straightened up his act.
Albert"
TB
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 9:32:39 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:What is your opinion of the current border situation?
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:08:51 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 4:56:12 PM
UTC-7, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at
2:15:34 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of
that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until
more than a dozen come here looking for sanctuary.
HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not
so dumb after all. They've already asked for TPS for
these hundreds of thousands - maybe millions. TPS
will allow them to fill all the jobs that have been
"created". After that, DEI will be invoked so that
they'll be able to vote - by mail, of course. Got
some smart dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous
retrumplican shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration
enforcement agents would continue to work, as would
customs officers. The Coast Guard would continue
operations." They aren't likely to be paid until the
shutdown ends, but that shouldn't be big deal for
anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement
Administration, the Secret Service and other federal
law enforcement agencies would remain on the job.
Prison staffers likewise would continue to work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases
against former President Donald Trump, would continue.
Most civil litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
That was 2021. Since you apparently have no opinion of your own,I am not surprised at that one, either.-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
As I have previously mentioned: If you want to have any
hope of getting an answer to a question about opinions, you
will have to start by posting yours. It's just too damn
easy for you to sit there and squirt out questions. I offer
no guarantees. As I have also previously mentioned--many
times: I am here for my own amazement and amusement. You
might not get an answer or one that you will like. You
would probably increase your odds of getting a straight
answer if your opinion doesn't require the usual double
talk and bafflegab. Or maybe not. Who knows? I lost
interest in word games a long time ago.
Just as a matter of record: I have probably spent more time
near the border and in Mexico than anyone else here. I'm
sure I've looked at this issue and posted about it more
than anyone else here. So, at the moment, unless something
changes drastically, I don't find this subject particularly
exciting and dynamic. I just found it amusing that the same
people who are most excited by this issue want to shut down
the government and stop paying the essential workers
protecting the border. This is reported to lead to a lot of
absenteeism because most of those people need to find a way
to pay the rent and buy food.
However comma I can give you my opinion in 21 words. Biden's
policies have fucked it up to the point that the border is
just a thin black line on Google Maps. -- bill Theory don't
mean squat if it don't work.
LOL Since I've said this stuff more than once it shouldn't be
any surprise, except for the people with CRS. We have had
people here with far more experience on the border than me. So,
I went and looked up Albert's answer to this question a couple
years ago because I thought it was a pretty good one.
bill horne wrote on Jul 8, 2021, 9:30:34 AM
"What's your personal opinion of the current border situation
and Biden's handling of it?"
Albert posted this response Jul 11, 2021, 1:52:20 PM
"I was born in Tucson and we moved to Douglas (on the border)
when I was about 10 years old and was raised there. It seems to
me that there's always been a border situation with Mexico at
Douglas dating all away back before statehood for Arizona.
We had a chief of police by the name of Percy Bowden that was
originally hired by Phelps Dodge way back in the 30s as a
strike breaker when the miners in Bisbee were on strike. He was
one of 100 men that was hired by Phelps Dodge in El Paso and
each was given a 3030 register and set in to the homes of the
strikers in Bisbee packing them all up and putting them on flat
cars on the Southern Pacific Railroad and sending them to New
Mexico where they were all dumped out in the middle of the
desert somewhere in New Mexico.
Now, Percy Bowden went on to become chief of police for
Douglas Arizona.
There was one incident where there was a man from Mexico that
was released from the Arizona penitentiary that when he was
sentenced, he swore that he would kill Percy Bowden at the
sentencing. He was married to a woman living in Douglas and
when he got out the penitentiary he was deported back to
Mexico.
He had been sneaking back into Douglas at night to be with his
wife and kids and one night Percy's Police Department was
waiting for them and he went back over the fence into Mexico
and some of the Douglas police followed him into Mexico and
caught him a little over 200 yards in Mexico. The Mexican
federal police found him lying face down with several bullet
holes in his back.
The Mexican federal police shut their side of the border down
completely immediately. Which meant because both Douglas and
Agua Prieta lost a lot of revenue from the trade.
There were several incidents where Douglas police officers were
shot at from across the line, fortunately no one was hurt but
everyone was scared.
So far I haven't seen anything that Pres. Biden is doing
anything about the border situation, but I've been busy doing
other things that are far more important to me than Biden and
the border because like I said there's always been some kind of
border situation in my lifetime.
We have a next-door neighbor of ours that started flying the
our flag upside down because " of that SOB in the White
House".I pointed out to him that that flag that he had turned
upside down represented everyone in the United States and that
symbol was only to be used in dire emergencies. Apparently the
VFW and American Legion got all over him and he straightened up
his act.
Albert"
TB
maybe you could ask Albert what he thinks about it now. And I'll
bet there's been no border situation in his lifetime that's like
it is now...........unless he was alive when Santa Anna came up.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
As I already said: "So, I went and looked up Albert's answer to
this question a couple years ago because I thought it was a pretty
good one." In order to help your weak reading comprehension I will
restate that sentence using different words. I AGREE WITH ALBERT.
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 9:32:39 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:What is your opinion of the current border situation?
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:08:51 PM UTC-7, bfh >>> wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 4:56:12 PM
UTC-7, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at
2:15:34 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of
that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until
more than a dozen come here looking for sanctuary.
HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not
so dumb after all. They've already asked for TPS for
these hundreds of thousands - maybe millions. TPS
will allow them to fill all the jobs that have been
"created". After that, DEI will be invoked so that
they'll be able to vote - by mail, of course. Got
some smart dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous
retrumplican shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration
enforcement agents would continue to work, as would
customs officers. The Coast Guard would continue
operations." They aren't likely to be paid until the
shutdown ends, but that shouldn't be big deal for
anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement
Administration, the Secret Service and other federal
law enforcement agencies would remain on the job.
Prison staffers likewise would continue to work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases
against former President Donald Trump, would continue.
Most civil litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
That was 2021. Since you apparently have no opinion of your own,I am not surprised at that one, either.-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
As I have previously mentioned: If you want to have any
hope of getting an answer to a question about opinions, you
will have to start by posting yours. It's just too damn
easy for you to sit there and squirt out questions. I offer
no guarantees. As I have also previously mentioned--many
times: I am here for my own amazement and amusement. You
might not get an answer or one that you will like. You
would probably increase your odds of getting a straight
answer if your opinion doesn't require the usual double
talk and bafflegab. Or maybe not. Who knows? I lost
interest in word games a long time ago.
Just as a matter of record: I have probably spent more time
near the border and in Mexico than anyone else here. I'm
sure I've looked at this issue and posted about it more
than anyone else here. So, at the moment, unless something
changes drastically, I don't find this subject particularly
exciting and dynamic. I just found it amusing that the same
people who are most excited by this issue want to shut down
the government and stop paying the essential workers
protecting the border. This is reported to lead to a lot of
absenteeism because most of those people need to find a way
to pay the rent and buy food.
However comma I can give you my opinion in 21 words. Biden's
policies have fucked it up to the point that the border is
just a thin black line on Google Maps. -- bill Theory don't
mean squat if it don't work.
LOL Since I've said this stuff more than once it shouldn't be
any surprise, except for the people with CRS. We have had
people here with far more experience on the border than me. So,
I went and looked up Albert's answer to this question a couple
years ago because I thought it was a pretty good one.
bill horne wrote on Jul 8, 2021, 9:30:34 AM
"What's your personal opinion of the current border situation
and Biden's handling of it?"
Albert posted this response Jul 11, 2021, 1:52:20 PM
"I was born in Tucson and we moved to Douglas (on the border)
when I was about 10 years old and was raised there. It seems to
me that there's always been a border situation with Mexico at
Douglas dating all away back before statehood for Arizona.
We had a chief of police by the name of Percy Bowden that was
originally hired by Phelps Dodge way back in the 30s as a
strike breaker when the miners in Bisbee were on strike. He was
one of 100 men that was hired by Phelps Dodge in El Paso and
each was given a 3030 register and set in to the homes of the
strikers in Bisbee packing them all up and putting them on flat
cars on the Southern Pacific Railroad and sending them to New
Mexico where they were all dumped out in the middle of the
desert somewhere in New Mexico.
Now, Percy Bowden went on to become chief of police for
Douglas Arizona.
There was one incident where there was a man from Mexico that
was released from the Arizona penitentiary that when he was
sentenced, he swore that he would kill Percy Bowden at the
sentencing. He was married to a woman living in Douglas and
when he got out the penitentiary he was deported back to
Mexico.
He had been sneaking back into Douglas at night to be with his
wife and kids and one night Percy's Police Department was
waiting for them and he went back over the fence into Mexico
and some of the Douglas police followed him into Mexico and
caught him a little over 200 yards in Mexico. The Mexican
federal police found him lying face down with several bullet
holes in his back.
The Mexican federal police shut their side of the border down
completely immediately. Which meant because both Douglas and
Agua Prieta lost a lot of revenue from the trade.
There were several incidents where Douglas police officers were
shot at from across the line, fortunately no one was hurt but
everyone was scared.
So far I haven't seen anything that Pres. Biden is doing
anything about the border situation, but I've been busy doing
other things that are far more important to me than Biden and
the border because like I said there's always been some kind of
border situation in my lifetime.
We have a next-door neighbor of ours that started flying the
our flag upside down because " of that SOB in the White
House".I pointed out to him that that flag that he had turned
upside down represented everyone in the United States and that
symbol was only to be used in dire emergencies. Apparently the
VFW and American Legion got all over him and he straightened up
his act.
Albert"
TB
maybe you could ask Albert what he thinks about it now. And I'll
bet there's been no border situation in his lifetime that's like
it is now...........unless he was alive when Santa Anna came up.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
As I already said: "So, I went and looked up Albert's answer toEven though the current border situation is vastly different than it
this question a couple years ago because I thought it was a pretty
good one." In order to help your weak reading comprehension I will
restate that sentence using different words. I AGREE WITH ALBERT.
was 2 years ago? Do you REALLY believe that Albert would give the same answer today?
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 11:40:34 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:What is your opinion of the current border situation?
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 9:32:39 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:08:51 PM
UTC-7, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at
4:56:12 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at
2:15:34 PM
UTC-7, bfh wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part
of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary
city/state..........until more than a dozen come
here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're
not so dumb after all. They've already asked for
TPS for these hundreds of thousands - maybe
millions. TPS will allow them to fill all the
jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI
will be invoked so that they'll be able to vote -
by mail, of course. Got some smart dumbasses out
there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the
ridiculous retrumplican shutdown: "Border Patrol
and immigration enforcement agents would continue
to work, as would customs officers. The Coast Guard
would continue operations." They aren't likely to
be paid until the shutdown ends, but that shouldn't
be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement
Administration, the Secret Service and other
federal law enforcement agencies would remain on
the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to
work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal
cases against former President Donald Trump, would
continue. Most civil litigation would be
postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
Even though the current border situation is vastly different thanThat was 2021. Since you apparently have no opinion of yourI am not surprised at that one, either.-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
As I have previously mentioned: If you want to have
any hope of getting an answer to a question about
opinions, you will have to start by posting yours. It's
just too damn easy for you to sit there and squirt out
questions. I offer no guarantees. As I have also
previously mentioned--many times: I am here for my own
amazement and amusement. You might not get an answer or
one that you will like. You would probably increase
your odds of getting a straight answer if your opinion
doesn't require the usual double talk and bafflegab. Or
maybe not. Who knows? I lost interest in word games a
long time ago.
Just as a matter of record: I have probably spent more
time near the border and in Mexico than anyone else
here. I'm sure I've looked at this issue and posted
about it more than anyone else here. So, at the moment,
unless something changes drastically, I don't find this
subject particularly exciting and dynamic. I just found
it amusing that the same people who are most excited by
this issue want to shut down the government and stop
paying the essential workers protecting the border.
This is reported to lead to a lot of absenteeism
because most of those people need to find a way to pay
the rent and buy food.
However comma I can give you my opinion in 21 words.
Biden's policies have fucked it up to the point that the
border is just a thin black line on Google Maps. -- bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
LOL Since I've said this stuff more than once it shouldn't
be any surprise, except for the people with CRS. We have
had people here with far more experience on the border than
me. So, I went and looked up Albert's answer to this
question a couple years ago because I thought it was a
pretty good one.
bill horne wrote on Jul 8, 2021, 9:30:34 AM
"What's your personal opinion of the current border
situation and Biden's handling of it?"
Albert posted this response Jul 11, 2021,
1:52:20 PM
"I was born in Tucson and we moved to Douglas (on the
border) when I was about 10 years old and was raised there.
It seems to me that there's always been a border situation
with Mexico at Douglas dating all away back before
statehood for Arizona.
We had a chief of police by the name of Percy Bowden that
was originally hired by Phelps Dodge way back in the 30s as
a strike breaker when the miners in Bisbee were on strike.
He was one of 100 men that was hired by Phelps Dodge in El
Paso and each was given a 3030 register and set in to the
homes of the strikers in Bisbee packing them all up and
putting them on flat cars on the Southern Pacific Railroad
and sending them to New Mexico where they were all dumped
out in the middle of the desert somewhere in New Mexico.
Now, Percy Bowden went on to become chief of police for
Douglas Arizona.
There was one incident where there was a man from Mexico
that was released from the Arizona penitentiary that when
he was sentenced, he swore that he would kill Percy Bowden
at the sentencing. He was married to a woman living in
Douglas and when he got out the penitentiary he was
deported back to Mexico.
He had been sneaking back into Douglas at night to be with
his wife and kids and one night Percy's Police Department
was waiting for them and he went back over the fence into
Mexico and some of the Douglas police followed him into
Mexico and caught him a little over 200 yards in Mexico.
The Mexican federal police found him lying face down with
several bullet holes in his back.
The Mexican federal police shut their side of the border
down completely immediately. Which meant because both
Douglas and Agua Prieta lost a lot of revenue from the
trade.
There were several incidents where Douglas police officers
were shot at from across the line, fortunately no one was
hurt but everyone was scared.
So far I haven't seen anything that Pres. Biden is doing
anything about the border situation, but I've been busy
doing other things that are far more important to me than
Biden and the border because like I said there's always
been some kind of border situation in my lifetime.
We have a next-door neighbor of ours that started flying
the our flag upside down because " of that SOB in the
White House".I pointed out to him that that flag that he
had turned upside down represented everyone in the United
States and that symbol was only to be used in dire
emergencies. Apparently the VFW and American Legion got all
over him and he straightened up his act.
Albert"
TB
own, maybe you could ask Albert what he thinks about it now.
And I'll bet there's been no border situation in his lifetime
that's like it is now...........unless he was alive when
Santa Anna came up. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it
don't work.
As I already said: "So, I went and looked up Albert's answer
to this question a couple years ago because I thought it was a
pretty good one." In order to help your weak reading
comprehension I will restate that sentence using different
words. I AGREE WITH ALBERT.
it was 2 years ago? Do you REALLY believe that Albert would give
the same answer today? -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it
don't work.
I will try to make this as simple as possible, since you are
obviously having problems understanding the English language. I
don't give a flying fuck what Albert's opinion would be today. His
post was a pretty good description of my opinion today.
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 11:40:34 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:What is your opinion of the current border situation?
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 9:32:39 PM UTC-7, bfh >>>> wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:08:51 PM
UTC-7, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at
4:56:12 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at
2:15:34 PM
UTC-7, bfh wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part
of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary
city/state..........until more than a dozen come
here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're
not so dumb after all. They've already asked for
TPS for these hundreds of thousands - maybe
millions. TPS will allow them to fill all the
jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI
will be invoked so that they'll be able to vote -
by mail, of course. Got some smart dumbasses out
there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the
ridiculous retrumplican shutdown: "Border Patrol
and immigration enforcement agents would continue
to work, as would customs officers. The Coast Guard
would continue operations." They aren't likely to
be paid until the shutdown ends, but that shouldn't
be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the >>>>>>>>>> Secret Service and other
federal law enforcement agencies would remain on
the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to
work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal
cases against former President Donald Trump, would
continue. Most civil litigation would be
postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
Even though the current border situation is vastly different thanThat was 2021. Since you apparently have no opinion of yourI am not surprised at that one, either.-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
As I have previously mentioned: If you want to have
any hope of getting an answer to a question about
opinions, you will have to start by posting yours. It's
just too damn easy for you to sit there and squirt out
questions. I offer no guarantees. As I have also
previously mentioned--many times: I am here for my own
amazement and amusement. You might not get an answer or
one that you will like. You would probably increase
your odds of getting a straight answer if your opinion
doesn't require the usual double talk and bafflegab. Or
maybe not. Who knows? I lost interest in word games a
long time ago.
Just as a matter of record: I have probably spent more
time near the border and in Mexico than anyone else
here. I'm sure I've looked at this issue and posted
about it more than anyone else here. So, at the moment,
unless something changes drastically, I don't find this
subject particularly exciting and dynamic. I just found
it amusing that the same people who are most excited by
this issue want to shut down the government and stop
paying the essential workers protecting the border.
This is reported to lead to a lot of absenteeism
because most of those people need to find a way to pay
the rent and buy food.
However comma I can give you my opinion in 21 words.
Biden's policies have fucked it up to the point that the
border is just a thin black line on Google Maps. -- bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
LOL Since I've said this stuff more than once it shouldn't
be any surprise, except for the people with CRS. We have
had people here with far more experience on the border than
me. So, I went and looked up Albert's answer to this
question a couple years ago because I thought it was a
pretty good one.
bill horne wrote on Jul 8, 2021, 9:30:34 AM
"What's your personal opinion of the current border
situation and Biden's handling of it?"
Albert posted this response Jul 11, 2021,
1:52:20 PM
"I was born in Tucson and we moved to Douglas (on the
border) when I was about 10 years old and was raised there.
It seems to me that there's always been a border situation
with Mexico at Douglas dating all away back before
statehood for Arizona.
We had a chief of police by the name of Percy Bowden that
was originally hired by Phelps Dodge way back in the 30s as
a strike breaker when the miners in Bisbee were on strike.
He was one of 100 men that was hired by Phelps Dodge in El
Paso and each was given a 3030 register and set in to the
homes of the strikers in Bisbee packing them all up and
putting them on flat cars on the Southern Pacific Railroad
and sending them to New Mexico where they were all dumped
out in the middle of the desert somewhere in New Mexico.
Now, Percy Bowden went on to become chief of police for Douglas
Arizona.
There was one incident where there was a man from Mexico
that was released from the Arizona penitentiary that when
he was sentenced, he swore that he would kill Percy Bowden
at the sentencing. He was married to a woman living in
Douglas and when he got out the penitentiary he was
deported back to Mexico.
He had been sneaking back into Douglas at night to be with
his wife and kids and one night Percy's Police Department
was waiting for them and he went back over the fence into
Mexico and some of the Douglas police followed him into
Mexico and caught him a little over 200 yards in Mexico.
The Mexican federal police found him lying face down with
several bullet holes in his back.
The Mexican federal police shut their side of the border
down completely immediately. Which meant because both
Douglas and Agua Prieta lost a lot of revenue from the
trade.
There were several incidents where Douglas police officers
were shot at from across the line, fortunately no one was
hurt but everyone was scared.
So far I haven't seen anything that Pres. Biden is doing anything
about the border situation, but I've been busy
doing other things that are far more important to me than
Biden and the border because like I said there's always
been some kind of border situation in my lifetime.
We have a next-door neighbor of ours that started flying
the our flag upside down because " of that SOB in the
White House".I pointed out to him that that flag that he
had turned upside down represented everyone in the United
States and that symbol was only to be used in dire
emergencies. Apparently the VFW and American Legion got all
over him and he straightened up his act.
Albert"
TB
own, maybe you could ask Albert what he thinks about it now.
And I'll bet there's been no border situation in his lifetime
that's like it is now...........unless he was alive when
Santa Anna came up. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it
don't work.
As I already said: "So, I went and looked up Albert's answer
to this question a couple years ago because I thought it was a
pretty good one." In order to help your weak reading
comprehension I will restate that sentence using different
words. I AGREE WITH ALBERT.
it was 2 years ago? Do you REALLY believe that Albert would give
the same answer today? -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it
don't work.
I will try to make this as simple as possible, since you are
obviously having problems understanding the English language. I
don't give a flying fuck what Albert's opinion would be today. His
post was a pretty good description of my opinion today.
LOL!
kmiller wrote:
On 9/21/2023 4:56 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:15:34 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until more than a
dozen come here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not so dumb after
all. They've already asked for TPS for these hundreds of
thousands - maybe millions. TPS will allow them to fill all the
jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI will be invoked so
that they'll be able to vote - by mail, of course. Got some smart
dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous retrumplican
shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration enforcement agents would
continue to work, as would customs officers. The Coast Guard would
continue operations." They aren't likely to be paid until the
shutdown ends, but that shouldn't be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Secret
Service and other federal law enforcement agencies would remain on
the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases against
former President Donald Trump, would continue. Most civil
litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
What is your opinion of the current border situation?
"Situation
noun
1. manner of being situated; location or position with reference to
environment:
The situation of the house allowed for a beautiful view.
2. a place or locality."
Yes, I think the border is a situation currently and probably
futurely. HawHawHaw!
I am not surprised.
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 11:40:34 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:What is your opinion of the current border situation?
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 9:32:39 PM UTC-7, bfh >>>> wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 8:08:51 PM
UTC-7, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at
4:56:12 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at
2:15:34 PM
UTC-7, bfh wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part
of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary
city/state..........until more than a dozen come
here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're
not so dumb after all. They've already asked for
TPS for these hundreds of thousands - maybe
millions. TPS will allow them to fill all the
jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI
will be invoked so that they'll be able to vote -
by mail, of course. Got some smart dumbasses out
there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the
ridiculous retrumplican shutdown: "Border Patrol
and immigration enforcement agents would continue
to work, as would customs officers. The Coast Guard
would continue operations." They aren't likely to
be paid until the shutdown ends, but that shouldn't
be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the >>>>>>>>>> Secret Service and other
federal law enforcement agencies would remain on
the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to
work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal
cases against former President Donald Trump, would
continue. Most civil litigation would be
postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
Even though the current border situation is vastly different thanThat was 2021. Since you apparently have no opinion of yourI am not surprised at that one, either.-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
As I have previously mentioned: If you want to have
any hope of getting an answer to a question about
opinions, you will have to start by posting yours. It's
just too damn easy for you to sit there and squirt out
questions. I offer no guarantees. As I have also
previously mentioned--many times: I am here for my own
amazement and amusement. You might not get an answer or
one that you will like. You would probably increase
your odds of getting a straight answer if your opinion
doesn't require the usual double talk and bafflegab. Or
maybe not. Who knows? I lost interest in word games a
long time ago.
Just as a matter of record: I have probably spent more
time near the border and in Mexico than anyone else
here. I'm sure I've looked at this issue and posted
about it more than anyone else here. So, at the moment,
unless something changes drastically, I don't find this
subject particularly exciting and dynamic. I just found
it amusing that the same people who are most excited by
this issue want to shut down the government and stop
paying the essential workers protecting the border.
This is reported to lead to a lot of absenteeism
because most of those people need to find a way to pay
the rent and buy food.
However comma I can give you my opinion in 21 words.
Biden's policies have fucked it up to the point that the
border is just a thin black line on Google Maps. -- bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
LOL Since I've said this stuff more than once it shouldn't
be any surprise, except for the people with CRS. We have
had people here with far more experience on the border than
me. So, I went and looked up Albert's answer to this
question a couple years ago because I thought it was a
pretty good one.
bill horne wrote on Jul 8, 2021, 9:30:34 AM
"What's your personal opinion of the current border
situation and Biden's handling of it?"
Albert posted this response Jul 11, 2021,
1:52:20 PM
"I was born in Tucson and we moved to Douglas (on the
border) when I was about 10 years old and was raised there.
It seems to me that there's always been a border situation
with Mexico at Douglas dating all away back before
statehood for Arizona.
We had a chief of police by the name of Percy Bowden that
was originally hired by Phelps Dodge way back in the 30s as
a strike breaker when the miners in Bisbee were on strike.
He was one of 100 men that was hired by Phelps Dodge in El
Paso and each was given a 3030 register and set in to the
homes of the strikers in Bisbee packing them all up and
putting them on flat cars on the Southern Pacific Railroad
and sending them to New Mexico where they were all dumped
out in the middle of the desert somewhere in New Mexico.
Now, Percy Bowden went on to become chief of police for Douglas
Arizona.
There was one incident where there was a man from Mexico
that was released from the Arizona penitentiary that when
he was sentenced, he swore that he would kill Percy Bowden
at the sentencing. He was married to a woman living in
Douglas and when he got out the penitentiary he was
deported back to Mexico.
He had been sneaking back into Douglas at night to be with
his wife and kids and one night Percy's Police Department
was waiting for them and he went back over the fence into
Mexico and some of the Douglas police followed him into
Mexico and caught him a little over 200 yards in Mexico.
The Mexican federal police found him lying face down with
several bullet holes in his back.
The Mexican federal police shut their side of the border
down completely immediately. Which meant because both
Douglas and Agua Prieta lost a lot of revenue from the
trade.
There were several incidents where Douglas police officers
were shot at from across the line, fortunately no one was
hurt but everyone was scared.
So far I haven't seen anything that Pres. Biden is doing anything
about the border situation, but I've been busy
doing other things that are far more important to me than
Biden and the border because like I said there's always
been some kind of border situation in my lifetime.
We have a next-door neighbor of ours that started flying
the our flag upside down because " of that SOB in the
White House".I pointed out to him that that flag that he
had turned upside down represented everyone in the United
States and that symbol was only to be used in dire
emergencies. Apparently the VFW and American Legion got all
over him and he straightened up his act.
Albert"
TB
own, maybe you could ask Albert what he thinks about it now.
And I'll bet there's been no border situation in his lifetime
that's like it is now...........unless he was alive when
Santa Anna came up. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it
don't work.
As I already said: "So, I went and looked up Albert's answer
to this question a couple years ago because I thought it was a
pretty good one." In order to help your weak reading
comprehension I will restate that sentence using different
words. I AGREE WITH ALBERT.
it was 2 years ago? Do you REALLY believe that Albert would give
the same answer today? -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it
don't work.
I will try to make this as simple as possible, since you are
obviously having problems understanding the English language. I
don't give a flying fuck what Albert's opinion would be today. His
post was a pretty good description of my opinion today.
LOL!
On 9/21/2023 7:55 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/21/2023 4:56 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:15:34 PM
UTC-7, bfh wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until more than a
dozen come here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not so dumb after
all. They've already asked for TPS for these hundreds of
thousands - maybe millions. TPS will allow them to fill all the
jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI will be invoked so
that they'll be able to vote - by mail, of course. Got some smart
dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous retrumplican
shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration enforcement agents would
continue to work, as would customs officers. The Coast Guard would
continue operations." They aren't likely to be paid until the
shutdown ends, but that shouldn't be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Secret
Service and other federal law enforcement agencies would remain on
the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases against
former President Donald Trump, would continue. Most civil
litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
What is your opinion of the current border situation?
"Situation
noun
1. manner of being situated; location or position with reference to
environment:
The situation of the house allowed for a beautiful view.
2. a place or locality."
Yes, I think the border is a situation currently and probably
futurely. HawHawHaw!
I am not surprised.
At your age, I'm not, either.
kmiller wrote:
On 9/21/2023 7:55 PM, bfh wrote:damn. Are you at my age? I thought you were younger?
kmiller wrote:
On 9/21/2023 4:56 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:15:34 PM UTC-7,
bfh wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until more than a
dozen come here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not so dumb after >>>>>>> all. They've already asked for TPS for these hundreds of
thousands - maybe millions. TPS will allow them to fill all the
jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI will be invoked so >>>>>>> that they'll be able to vote - by mail, of course. Got some smart >>>>>>> dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous retrumplican
shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration enforcement agents would
continue to work, as would customs officers. The Coast Guard would >>>>>> continue operations." They aren't likely to be paid until the
shutdown ends, but that shouldn't be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Secret >>>>>> Service and other federal law enforcement agencies would remain on >>>>>> the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases against
former President Donald Trump, would continue. Most civil
litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
What is your opinion of the current border situation?
"Situation
noun
1. manner of being situated; location or position with reference to
environment:
The situation of the house allowed for a beautiful view.
2. a place or locality."
Yes, I think the border is a situation currently and probably
futurely. HawHawHaw!
I am not surprised.
At your age, I'm not, either.
On 9/22/2023 11:21 PM, bfh wrote:
kmiller wrote:
On 9/21/2023 7:55 PM, bfh wrote:damn. Are you at my age? I thought you were younger?
kmiller wrote:
On 9/21/2023 4:56 PM, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at
2:15:34 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
....wait.....they just unwittingly forgot part of that:
They meant to say, The border is securely open.
And: We are a sanctuary city/state..........until more than a
dozen come here looking for sanctuary. HawHawHaw!
dumbasses.............wait........maybe they're not so dumb after >>>>>>>> all. They've already asked for TPS for these hundreds of
thousands - maybe millions. TPS will allow them to fill all the >>>>>>>> jobs that have been "created". After that, DEI will be invoked so >>>>>>>> that they'll be able to vote - by mail, of course. Got some smart >>>>>>>> dumbasses out there, eh?
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hey, look at the bright side. During the ridiculous retrumplican >>>>>>> shutdown: "Border Patrol and immigration enforcement agents would >>>>>>> continue to work, as would customs officers. The Coast Guard would >>>>>>> continue operations." They aren't likely to be paid until the
shutdown ends, but that shouldn't be big deal for anyone.
Better still:
"Agents at the FBI, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the
Secret
Service and other federal law enforcement agencies would remain on >>>>>>> the job. Prison staffers likewise would continue to work.
Criminal prosecutions, including the two federal cases against
former President Donald Trump, would continue. Most civil
litigation would be postponed."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
What is your opinion of the current border situation?
"Situation
noun
1. manner of being situated; location or position with reference
to environment:
The situation of the house allowed for a beautiful view.
2. a place or locality."
Yes, I think the border is a situation currently and probably
futurely. HawHawHaw!
I am not surprised.
At your age, I'm not, either.
No surprise there - even Mt Rainier is younger.
------------------------------------------------
Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson
confronted top White House officials late Sunday, demanding they take
fast and concrete steps to address a migrant crisis they believe is
about to reach a breaking point in the Windy City, according to two
people on the call.
...
The uptick in arrivals to cities in the US is tied to an increase in
border crossings. Border Patrol apprehended more than 200,000 migrants crossing the US-Mexico border unlawfully in September, according to a Homeland Security official, marking the highest total this year and underscoring the ongoing challenges for the Biden administration amid
mass migration in the region. ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------
“A single office with an identified leader must be assigned to work
for the cities and states across the silos of government to manage the challenges we all face,” Pritzker wrote in his letter to the White House. ...
“The federal government must stop abdicating responsibility once CBP releases migrants into the interior of the country. Your
administration has the capacity, resources and legal recourse to do
this right now,” Pritzker wrote. ---------------------------------------------
I thought we already had a Border Czar - Kakala.
HawHawHaw!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/white-house-chicago-migrant-crisis-tension/index.html
"The border is secure", Majerkis has said numerous times. Why don't
the Democrats believe him? He's the head of DHS. He has the numbers.
Follow the science.
HawHawHaw!
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:14:25 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"The border is secure", Majerkis has said numerous times. Why don't
------------------------------------------------ Illinois Gov.
J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson confronted top
White House officials late Sunday, demanding they take fast and
concrete steps to address a migrant crisis they believe is about
to reach a breaking point in the Windy City, according to two
people on the call. ... The uptick in arrivals to cities in the
US is tied to an increase in border crossings. Border Patrol
apprehended more than 200,000 migrants crossing the US-Mexico
border unlawfully in September, according to a Homeland Security
official, marking the highest total this year and underscoring
the ongoing challenges for the Biden administration amid mass
migration in the region.
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------ “A single
office with an identified leader must be assigned to work for the
cities and states across the silos of government to manage the
challenges we all face,†Pritzker wrote in his letter to the
White House. ... “The federal government must stop abdicating
responsibility once CBP releases migrants into the interior of
the country. Your administration has the capacity, resources and
legal recourse to do this right now,†Pritzker wrote.
---------------------------------------------
I thought we already had a Border Czar - Kakala. HawHawHaw!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/white-house-chicago-migrant-crisis-tension/index.html
the Democrats believe him? He's the head of DHS. He has the
numbers. Follow the science. HawHawHaw!
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Just a minor nitpick, while the sky is falling. The apprehension
numbers include people who are apprehended more than once. In
fiscal year 2021 the recidivism rate was running 27%. It's likely
to be higher now.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:14:25 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"The border is secure", Majerkis has said numerous times. Why don't
------------------------------------------------ Illinois Gov.
J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson confronted top
White House officials late Sunday, demanding they take fast and
concrete steps to address a migrant crisis they believe is about
to reach a breaking point in the Windy City, according to two
people on the call. ... The uptick in arrivals to cities in the
US is tied to an increase in border crossings. Border Patrol
apprehended more than 200,000 migrants crossing the US-Mexico
border unlawfully in September, according to a Homeland Security
official, marking the highest total this year and underscoring
the ongoing challenges for the Biden administration amid mass
migration in the region.
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------ “A single
office with an identified leader must be assigned to work for the
cities and states across the silos of government to manage the
challenges we all face,†Pritzker wrote in his letter to the
White House. ... “The federal government must stop abdicating
responsibility once CBP releases migrants into the interior of
the country. Your administration has the capacity, resources and
legal recourse to do this right now,†Pritzker wrote.
---------------------------------------------
I thought we already had a Border Czar - Kakala. HawHawHaw!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/white-house-chicago-migrant-crisis-tension/index.html
the Democrats believe him? He's the head of DHS. He has the
numbers. Follow the science. HawHawHaw!
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Just a minor nitpick, while the sky is falling. The apprehension
numbers include people who are apprehended more than once. In
fiscal year 2021 the recidivism rate was running 27%. It's likely
to be higher now.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statisticsYou should tell that to the Dem mayors and governors who are getting
all worked up. They'd probably appreciate some calming news - even
just a nit.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:44:43 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"The border is secure", Majerkis has said numerous times. Why don't
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:14:25 AM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
------------------------------------------------ Illinois
Gov. J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson
confronted top White House officials late Sunday, demanding
they take fast and concrete steps to address a migrant crisis
they believe is about to reach a breaking point in the Windy
City, according to two people on the call. ... The uptick in
arrivals to cities in the US is tied to an increase in border
crossings. Border Patrol apprehended more than 200,000
migrants crossing the US-Mexico border unlawfully in
September, according to a Homeland Security official, marking
the highest total this year and underscoring the ongoing
challenges for the Biden administration amid mass migration
in the region.
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------ “A
single office with an identified leader must be assigned to
work for the cities and states across the silos of government
to manage the challenges we all face,†Pritzker wrote in
his letter to the White House. ... “The federal
government must stop abdicating responsibility once CBP
releases migrants into the interior of the country. Your
administration has the capacity, resources and legal recourse
to do this right now,†Pritzker wrote.
---------------------------------------------
I thought we already had a Border Czar - Kakala. HawHawHaw!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/white-house-chicago-migrant-crisis-tension/index.html
You should tell that to the Dem mayors and governors who arethe Democrats believe him? He's the head of DHS. He has the
numbers. Follow the science. HawHawHaw!
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Just a minor nitpick, while the sky is falling. The
apprehension numbers include people who are apprehended more
than once. In fiscal year 2021 the recidivism rate was running
27%. It's likely to be higher now.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics
getting all worked up. They'd probably appreciate some calming
news - even just a nit. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it
don't work.
No one should be surprised that the surge is causing problems in
some areas. So far I haven't read anything about it causing
problems where I live. Is it causing problems where you live? I
went looking for current information on undocumented people here
and found this:
"Oregon expands free health insurance for low-income residents – regardless of immigration status The move coincides with debates in
other states this year on expanding Medicaid coverage to
undocumented immigrants"
https://oregoncapitalchronicle.com/2023/07/06/oregon-expands-free-health-insurance-for-low-income-oregonians-regardless-of-immigration-status/
We have a lot of problems here, but undocumented people don't
appear to be high on the list. Instead of latching onto the
sensational I prefer to understand the proportions of the problem.
I thought this article was informative.
"The Biden administration is turning a lower percentage of
border-crossing migrants back into Mexico The administration says
its policies have discouraged migrants from crossing the southern
border. So why are fewer of those who do cross being sent back into
Mexico?"
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-lower-percentage-border-crossing-migrants-mexico-rcna100966
I think it's absolutely fantastic that it all comes down to an
app. And not necessarily in a good way. I have always been a fan of
science fiction. I explained my fascination to my parents by
telling them it was a good source for information about the future.
Hot Damn! We're living in that future. Those folks have cell
phones. We can call them. Better still, we can track them. If we
haven't already, we should make that a condition of their release.
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:44:43 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"The border is secure", Majerkis has said numerous times. Why don't
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:14:25 AM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
------------------------------------------------ Illinois
Gov. J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson
confronted top White House officials late Sunday, demanding
they take fast and concrete steps to address a migrant crisis
they believe is about to reach a breaking point in the Windy
City, according to two people on the call. ... The uptick in
arrivals to cities in the US is tied to an increase in border
crossings. Border Patrol apprehended more than 200,000
migrants crossing the US-Mexico border unlawfully in
September, according to a Homeland Security official, marking
the highest total this year and underscoring the ongoing
challenges for the Biden administration amid mass migration
in the region.
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------ “A
single office with an identified leader must be assigned to
work for the cities and states across the silos of government
to manage the challenges we all face,†Pritzker wrote in
his letter to the White House. ... “The federal
government must stop abdicating responsibility once CBP
releases migrants into the interior of the country. Your
administration has the capacity, resources and legal recourse
to do this right now,†Pritzker wrote.
---------------------------------------------
I thought we already had a Border Czar - Kakala. HawHawHaw!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/white-house-chicago-migrant-crisis-tension/index.html
You should tell that to the Dem mayors and governors who arethe Democrats believe him? He's the head of DHS. He has the
numbers. Follow the science. HawHawHaw!
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Just a minor nitpick, while the sky is falling. The
apprehension numbers include people who are apprehended more
than once. In fiscal year 2021 the recidivism rate was running
27%. It's likely to be higher now.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics
getting all worked up. They'd probably appreciate some calming
news - even just a nit. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it
don't work.
No one should be surprised that the surge is causing problems in
some areas. So far I haven't read anything about it causing
problems where I live. Is it causing problems where you live? I
went looking for current information on undocumented people here
and found this:
"Oregon expands free health insurance for low-income residents – regardless of immigration status The move coincides with debates in
other states this year on expanding Medicaid coverage to
undocumented immigrants"
https://oregoncapitalchronicle.com/2023/07/06/oregon-expands-free-health-insurance-for-low-income-oregonians-regardless-of-immigration-status/
We have a lot of problems here, but undocumented people don't
appear to be high on the list. Instead of latching onto the
sensational I prefer to understand the proportions of the problem.
I thought this article was informative.
"The Biden administration is turning a lower percentage of
border-crossing migrants back into Mexico The administration says
its policies have discouraged migrants from crossing the southern
border. So why are fewer of those who do cross being sent back into Mexico?"
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-lower-percentage-border-crossing-migrants-mexico-rcna100966
I think it's absolutely fantastic that it all comes down to anLOL!
app. And not necessarily in a good way. I have always been a fan of science fiction. I explained my fascination to my parents by
telling them it was a good source for information about the future.
Hot Damn! We're living in that future. Those folks have cell
phones. We can call them. Better still, we can track them. If we
haven't already, we should make that a condition of their release.
Hey, I got no problems here. So what's everybody over yonder whining
about?
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:44:43 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:14:25 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"The border is secure", Majerkis has said numerous times. Why don't
------------------------------------------------ Illinois Gov.
J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson confronted top
White House officials late Sunday, demanding they take fast and
concrete steps to address a migrant crisis they believe is about
to reach a breaking point in the Windy City, according to two
people on the call. ... The uptick in arrivals to cities in the
US is tied to an increase in border crossings. Border Patrol
apprehended more than 200,000 migrants crossing the US-Mexico
border unlawfully in September, according to a Homeland Security
official, marking the highest total this year and underscoring
the ongoing challenges for the Biden administration amid mass
migration in the region.
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------ “A single
office with an identified leader must be assigned to work for the
cities and states across the silos of government to manage the
challenges we all face,†Pritzker wrote in his letter to the
White House. ... “The federal government must stop abdicating
responsibility once CBP releases migrants into the interior of
the country. Your administration has the capacity, resources and
legal recourse to do this right now,†Pritzker wrote.
---------------------------------------------
I thought we already had a Border Czar - Kakala. HawHawHaw!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/white-house-chicago-migrant-crisis-tension/index.html
You should tell that to the Dem mayors and governors who are gettingthe Democrats believe him? He's the head of DHS. He has the
numbers. Follow the science. HawHawHaw!
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Just a minor nitpick, while the sky is falling. The apprehension
numbers include people who are apprehended more than once. In
fiscal year 2021 the recidivism rate was running 27%. It's likely
to be higher now.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics
all worked up. They'd probably appreciate some calming news - even
just a nit.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
No one should be surprised that the surge is causing problems in some areas. So far I haven't read anything about it causing problems where I live.
On 10/3/2023 3:01 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:44:43 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:14:25 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"The border is secure", Majerkis has said numerous times. Why don't
------------------------------------------------ Illinois Gov.
J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson confronted top
White House officials late Sunday, demanding they take fast and
concrete steps to address a migrant crisis they believe is about
to reach a breaking point in the Windy City, according to two
people on the call. ... The uptick in arrivals to cities in the
US is tied to an increase in border crossings. Border Patrol
apprehended more than 200,000 migrants crossing the US-Mexico
border unlawfully in September, according to a Homeland Security
official, marking the highest total this year and underscoring
the ongoing challenges for the Biden administration amid mass
migration in the region.
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------ “A single
office with an identified leader must be assigned to work for the
cities and states across the silos of government to manage the
challenges we all face,†Pritzker wrote in his letter to the
White House. ... “The federal government must stop abdicating >>>> responsibility once CBP releases migrants into the interior of
the country. Your administration has the capacity, resources and
legal recourse to do this right now,†Pritzker wrote.
---------------------------------------------
I thought we already had a Border Czar - Kakala. HawHawHaw!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/white-house-chicago-migrant-crisis-tension/index.html
You should tell that to the Dem mayors and governors who are gettingthe Democrats believe him? He's the head of DHS. He has the
numbers. Follow the science. HawHawHaw!
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Just a minor nitpick, while the sky is falling. The apprehension
numbers include people who are apprehended more than once. In
fiscal year 2021 the recidivism rate was running 27%. It's likely
to be higher now.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics
all worked up. They'd probably appreciate some calming news - even
just a nit.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
No one should be surprised that the surge is causing problems in some areas. So far I haven't read anything about it causing problems where I live.It is causing problems where everyone in this country lives. You many
not see many illegal aliens (although how would you know?) in your area
but you are helping to support them. You think these people aren't a
drain on our tax base? You really are a selfish, self-serving ass.
-----
The only thing more idiotic than liberalism is... well, nothing comes to mind.
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 4:20:52 PM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:
On 10/3/2023 3:01 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:44:43 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:It is causing problems where everyone in this country lives. You many
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:14:25 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"The border is secure", Majerkis has said numerous times. Why don't
------------------------------------------------ Illinois Gov.
J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson confronted top
White House officials late Sunday, demanding they take fast and
concrete steps to address a migrant crisis they believe is about
to reach a breaking point in the Windy City, according to two
people on the call. ... The uptick in arrivals to cities in the
US is tied to an increase in border crossings. Border Patrol
apprehended more than 200,000 migrants crossing the US-Mexico
border unlawfully in September, according to a Homeland Security
official, marking the highest total this year and underscoring
the ongoing challenges for the Biden administration amid mass
migration in the region.
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------ “A single
office with an identified leader must be assigned to work for the
cities and states across the silos of government to manage the
challenges we all face,†Pritzker wrote in his letter to the
White House. ... “The federal government must stop abdicating >>>>>> responsibility once CBP releases migrants into the interior of
the country. Your administration has the capacity, resources and
legal recourse to do this right now,†Pritzker wrote.
---------------------------------------------
I thought we already had a Border Czar - Kakala. HawHawHaw!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/white-house-chicago-migrant-crisis-tension/index.html
You should tell that to the Dem mayors and governors who are gettingthe Democrats believe him? He's the head of DHS. He has the
numbers. Follow the science. HawHawHaw!
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Just a minor nitpick, while the sky is falling. The apprehension
numbers include people who are apprehended more than once. In
fiscal year 2021 the recidivism rate was running 27%. It's likely
to be higher now.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics
all worked up. They'd probably appreciate some calming news - even
just a nit.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
No one should be surprised that the surge is causing problems in some
areas. So far I haven't read anything about it causing problems where I live.
not see many illegal aliens (although how would you know?) in your area
but you are helping to support them. You think these people aren't a
drain on our tax base? You really are a selfish, self-serving ass.
-----
The only thing more idiotic than liberalism is... well, nothing comes to
mind.
LOL, as usual you are dumb as a stump. Those people pay taxes the same way everyone else does. They subsidize Social Security because they
pay the tax and can't collect the benefits unless they become citizens.
They pay property taxes the same as everyone else, either directly or indirectly through their rent. In states with a sales tax they are not exempt. They are not exempt from the income tax here. The only way they escape paying their fair share, or more, is the same way Americans do it. Work off the books. Or cheat on their taxes. lol
TB
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 4:20:52 PM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:
On 10/3/2023 3:01 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:44:43 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:It is causing problems where everyone in this country lives. You many
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:14:25 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote: >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ Illinois Gov."The border is secure", Majerkis has said numerous times. Why don't >>>>>> the Democrats believe him? He's the head of DHS. He has the
J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson confronted top
White House officials late Sunday, demanding they take fast and >>>>>> concrete steps to address a migrant crisis they believe is about >>>>>> to reach a breaking point in the Windy City, according to two
people on the call. ... The uptick in arrivals to cities in the >>>>>> US is tied to an increase in border crossings. Border Patrol
apprehended more than 200,000 migrants crossing the US-Mexico
border unlawfully in September, according to a Homeland Security >>>>>> official, marking the highest total this year and underscoring
the ongoing challenges for the Biden administration amid mass
migration in the region.
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------ “A single >>>>>> office with an identified leader must be assigned to work for the >>>>>> cities and states across the silos of government to manage the
challenges we all face,†Pritzker wrote in his letter to the >>>>>> White House. ... “The federal government must stop abdicating >>>>>> responsibility once CBP releases migrants into the interior of
the country. Your administration has the capacity, resources and >>>>>> legal recourse to do this right now,†Pritzker wrote.
---------------------------------------------
I thought we already had a Border Czar - Kakala. HawHawHaw!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/white-house-chicago-migrant-crisis-tension/index.html
You should tell that to the Dem mayors and governors who are getting >>>> all worked up. They'd probably appreciate some calming news - evennumbers. Follow the science. HawHawHaw!
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Just a minor nitpick, while the sky is falling. The apprehension
numbers include people who are apprehended more than once. In
fiscal year 2021 the recidivism rate was running 27%. It's likely >>>>> to be higher now.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics
just a nit.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
No one should be surprised that the surge is causing problems in some >>> areas. So far I haven't read anything about it causing problems where I live.
not see many illegal aliens (although how would you know?) in your area >> but you are helping to support them. You think these people aren't a
drain on our tax base? You really are a selfish, self-serving ass.
-----
The only thing more idiotic than liberalism is... well, nothing comes to >> mind.
LOL, as usual you are dumb as a stump. Those people pay taxes the
same way everyone else does. They subsidize Social Security because they pay the tax and can't collect the benefits unless they become citizens. They pay property taxes the same as everyone else, either directly or indirectly through their rent. In states with a sales tax they are not exempt. They are not exempt from the income tax here. The only way they escape paying their fair share, or more, is the same way Americans do it. Work off the books. Or cheat on their taxes. lol
TB
You are, what’s dumber than a stump? You really think all these hundred thousands of illegals are paying income taxes? How many of those “workers”
you see at Home Depot, Lowes, etc. are income tax payers? Who is paying their medical expenses? These people are working for cash. At least until the NAGA dimocrats turn us into a totally cashless society.
Everything is not as Eutopian as you think you out of touch Oregonians are.
--
One out of three Biden voters is just as clueless as the other two.
Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 4:20:52 PM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:
On 10/3/2023 3:01 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:44:43 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:It is causing problems where everyone in this country lives. You many
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:14:25 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote: >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ Illinois Gov."The border is secure", Majerkis has said numerous times. Why don't >>>>>>> the Democrats believe him? He's the head of DHS. He has the
J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson confronted top
White House officials late Sunday, demanding they take fast and
concrete steps to address a migrant crisis they believe is about >>>>>>> to reach a breaking point in the Windy City, according to two
people on the call. ... The uptick in arrivals to cities in the
US is tied to an increase in border crossings. Border Patrol
apprehended more than 200,000 migrants crossing the US-Mexico
border unlawfully in September, according to a Homeland Security >>>>>>> official, marking the highest total this year and underscoring
the ongoing challenges for the Biden administration amid mass
migration in the region.
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------ “A single >>>>>>> office with an identified leader must be assigned to work for the >>>>>>> cities and states across the silos of government to manage the
challenges we all face,†Pritzker wrote in his letter to the >>>>>>> White House. ... “The federal government must stop abdicating >>>>>>> responsibility once CBP releases migrants into the interior of
the country. Your administration has the capacity, resources and >>>>>>> legal recourse to do this right now,†Pritzker wrote.
---------------------------------------------
I thought we already had a Border Czar - Kakala. HawHawHaw!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/white-house-chicago-migrant-crisis-tension/index.html
You should tell that to the Dem mayors and governors who are getting >>>>> all worked up. They'd probably appreciate some calming news - evennumbers. Follow the science. HawHawHaw!
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Just a minor nitpick, while the sky is falling. The apprehension
numbers include people who are apprehended more than once. In
fiscal year 2021 the recidivism rate was running 27%. It's likely
to be higher now.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics
just a nit.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
No one should be surprised that the surge is causing problems in some
areas. So far I haven't read anything about it causing problems where I live.
not see many illegal aliens (although how would you know?) in your area
but you are helping to support them. You think these people aren't a
drain on our tax base? You really are a selfish, self-serving ass.
-----
The only thing more idiotic than liberalism is... well, nothing comes to >>> mind.
LOL, as usual you are dumb as a stump. Those people pay taxes the >> same way everyone else does. They subsidize Social Security because they
pay the tax and can't collect the benefits unless they become citizens.
They pay property taxes the same as everyone else, either directly or
indirectly through their rent. In states with a sales tax they are not
exempt. They are not exempt from the income tax here. The only way they
escape paying their fair share, or more, is the same way Americans do it.
Work off the books. Or cheat on their taxes. lol
TB
You are, what’s dumber than a stump? You really think all these hundred thousands of illegals are paying income taxes? How many of those “workers”
you see at Home Depot, Lowes, etc. are income tax payers? Who is paying
their medical expenses? These people are working for cash. At least until
the NAGA dimocrats turn us into a totally cashless society.
Everything is not as Eutopian as you think you out of touch Oregonians are.
Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 4:20:52 PM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:
On 10/3/2023 3:01 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:44:43 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:It is causing problems where everyone in this country lives. You many
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:14:25 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote: >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ Illinois Gov."The border is secure", Majerkis has said numerous times. Why don't >>>>>> the Democrats believe him? He's the head of DHS. He has the
J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson confronted top
White House officials late Sunday, demanding they take fast and >>>>>> concrete steps to address a migrant crisis they believe is about >>>>>> to reach a breaking point in the Windy City, according to two
people on the call. ... The uptick in arrivals to cities in the >>>>>> US is tied to an increase in border crossings. Border Patrol
apprehended more than 200,000 migrants crossing the US-Mexico
border unlawfully in September, according to a Homeland Security >>>>>> official, marking the highest total this year and underscoring
the ongoing challenges for the Biden administration amid mass
migration in the region.
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------ “A single >>>>>> office with an identified leader must be assigned to work for the >>>>>> cities and states across the silos of government to manage the
challenges we all face,†Pritzker wrote in his letter to the >>>>>> White House. ... “The federal government must stop abdicating >>>>>> responsibility once CBP releases migrants into the interior of
the country. Your administration has the capacity, resources and >>>>>> legal recourse to do this right now,†Pritzker wrote.
---------------------------------------------
I thought we already had a Border Czar - Kakala. HawHawHaw!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/white-house-chicago-migrant-crisis-tension/index.html
You should tell that to the Dem mayors and governors who are getting >>>> all worked up. They'd probably appreciate some calming news - evennumbers. Follow the science. HawHawHaw!
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Just a minor nitpick, while the sky is falling. The apprehension
numbers include people who are apprehended more than once. In
fiscal year 2021 the recidivism rate was running 27%. It's likely >>>>> to be higher now.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics
just a nit.
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
No one should be surprised that the surge is causing problems in some >>> areas. So far I haven't read anything about it causing problems where I live.
not see many illegal aliens (although how would you know?) in your area >> but you are helping to support them. You think these people aren't a
drain on our tax base? You really are a selfish, self-serving ass.
The only thing more idiotic than liberalism is... well, nothing comes to >> mind.
LOL, as usual you are dumb as a stump. Those people pay taxes the
same way everyone else does. They subsidize Social Security because they pay the tax and can't collect the benefits unless they become citizens. They pay property taxes the same as everyone else, either directly or indirectly through their rent. In states with a sales tax they are not exempt. They are not exempt from the income tax here. The only way they escape paying their fair share, or more, is the same way Americans do it. Work off the books. Or cheat on their taxes. lol
TB
You are, what’s dumber than a stump? You really think all these hundred thousands of illegals are paying income taxes? How many of those “workers”
you see at Home Depot, Lowes, etc. are income tax payers? Who is paying their medical expenses? These people are working for cash. At least until the NAGA dimocrats turn us into a totally cashless society.
Everything is not as Eutopian as you think you out of touch Oregonians are.
One out of three Biden voters is just as clueless as the other two.
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:44:43 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
Technobarbarian wrote:
On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 10:14:25 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:"The border is secure", Majerkis has said numerous times. Why don't
------------------------------------------------ Illinois Gov.
J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson confronted top
White House officials late Sunday, demanding they take fast and
concrete steps to address a migrant crisis they believe is about
to reach a breaking point in the Windy City, according to two
people on the call. ... The uptick in arrivals to cities in the
US is tied to an increase in border crossings. Border Patrol
apprehended more than 200,000 migrants crossing the US-Mexico
border unlawfully in September, according to a Homeland Security
official, marking the highest total this year and underscoring
the ongoing challenges for the Biden administration amid mass
migration in the region.
------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------ “A single
office with an identified leader must be assigned to work for the
cities and states across the silos of government to manage the
challenges we all face,†Pritzker wrote in his letter to the
White House. ... “The federal government must stop abdicating
responsibility once CBP releases migrants into the interior of
the country. Your administration has the capacity, resources and
legal recourse to do this right now,†Pritzker wrote.
---------------------------------------------
I thought we already had a Border Czar - Kakala. HawHawHaw!
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/03/politics/white-house-chicago-migrant-crisis-tension/index.html
You should tell that to the Dem mayors and governors who are gettingthe Democrats believe him? He's the head of DHS. He has the
numbers. Follow the science. HawHawHaw!
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Just a minor nitpick, while the sky is falling. The apprehension
numbers include people who are apprehended more than once. In
fiscal year 2021 the recidivism rate was running 27%. It's likely
to be higher now.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/cbp-enforcement-statistics
all worked up. They'd probably appreciate some calming news - even
just a nit.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
No one should be surprised that the surge is causing problems in some areas. So far I haven't read anything about it causing problems where I live. Is it causing problems where you live?
I went looking for current information on undocumented people here and found this:about the future. Hot Damn! We're living in that future. Those folks have cell phones. We can call them. Better still, we can track them. If we haven't already, we should make that a condition of their release.
"Oregon expands free health insurance for low-income residents – regardless of immigration status
The move coincides with debates in other states this year on expanding Medicaid coverage to undocumented immigrants"
https://oregoncapitalchronicle.com/2023/07/06/oregon-expands-free-health-insurance-for-low-income-oregonians-regardless-of-immigration-status/
We have a lot of problems here, but undocumented people don't appear to be high on the list. Instead of latching onto the sensational I prefer to understand the proportions of the problem. I thought this article was informative.
"The Biden administration is turning a lower percentage of border-crossing migrants back into Mexico
The administration says its policies have discouraged migrants from crossing the southern border. So why are fewer of those who do cross being sent back into Mexico?"
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-lower-percentage-border-crossing-migrants-mexico-rcna100966
I think it's absolutely fantastic that it all comes down to an app. And not necessarily in a good way. I have always been a fan of science fiction. I explained my fascination to my parents by telling them it was a good source for information
TB
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