"In his NPR interview, Moore suggested that Trump had transformed the political landscape in the U.S. to the point where some Christian conservatives are openly denouncing a central doctrine of their religion as being too "weak" and "liberal" for theirliking.
"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching—'turn the other cheek'—[and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking points?'"Moore said.
"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, thenwe're in a crisis.""
https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706
That's pretty much their attitude about the constitution. And the government, and the law, and many other things.
On 8/10/2023 2:04 PM, TechnoBoob wrote:
"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, intheir preaching—'turn the other cheek'—[and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those
liberal talking points?'" Moore said.
doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are
"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that
seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis.""
https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706
Yeah, when I want to understand where the Christian voter is I want to
hear from a Godless Pagan giving his impression of an NPR propaganda >interview reported on the Democrat party mouthpiece newsweek magazine
website quoting a disgraced Never-Trumper who no one gives two shits
about what he says anymore. Right...
In article <ub6ie4$11g7j$3@dont-email.me>,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/10/2023 2:04 PM, TechnoBoob wrote:
"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, intheir preaching—'turn the other cheek'—[and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those
liberal talking points?'" Moore said.
doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are
"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that
seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis.""
https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706
Yeah, when I want to understand where the Christian voter is I want to
hear from a Godless Pagan giving his impression of an NPR propaganda
interview reported on the Democrat party mouthpiece newsweek magazine
website quoting a disgraced Never-Trumper who no one gives two shits
about what he says anymore. Right...
I have very serious doubts about the veracity of this tale of
alleged Christians allegedly directly denouncing red-letter
statements of Jesus straight from their King James (TM) Bible.
As someone who has despised Trump ever since he first impinged
on my awareness back in the 1980s, and never voted for the
SOB (What can I say, I lived in Commiefornia at the time,
and my vote was a meaningless gesture; I chose to make it
a "Plague on both your parties" gesture.) I find it very
telling that in this story that the only alleged Christians
who are putting their politics above Jesus are on the right.
No one on the left has ever, ever, EVER done, said, or believed
ANYTHING contrary to one bit of Christianity.
That tells me that this story is more partisan political
screed than factual.
In article <ub6ie4$11g7j$3...@dont-email.me>,
sticks <wolve...@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/10/2023 2:04 PM, TechnoBoob wrote:
"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, intheir preaching—'turn the other cheek'—[and] to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those
liberal talking points?'" Moore said.
doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are
"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that
seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis.""
https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706
Yeah, when I want to understand where the Christian voter is I want to >hear from a Godless Pagan giving his impression of an NPR propaganda >interview reported on the Democrat party mouthpiece newsweek magazine >website quoting a disgraced Never-Trumper who no one gives two shitsI have very serious doubts about the veracity of this tale of
about what he says anymore. Right...
alleged Christians allegedly directly denouncing red-letter
statements of Jesus straight from their King James (TM) Bible.
As someone who has despised Trump ever since he first impinged
on my awareness back in the 1980s, and never voted for the
SOB (What can I say, I lived in Commiefornia at the time,
and my vote was a meaningless gesture; I chose to make it
a "Plague on both your parties" gesture.) I find it very
telling that in this story that the only alleged Christians
who are putting their politics above Jesus are on the right.
No one on the left has ever, ever, EVER done, said, or believed
ANYTHING contrary to one bit of Christianity.
That tells me that this story is more partisan political
screed than factual.
--
Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts."
mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane
KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston
Don Lampson wrote:
On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:05:36 PM UTC-7, Mike Van PeltYeah, when I want to understand where the Christian voter is I want to
wrote:
In article <ub6ie4$11g7j$3...@dont-email.me>, sticks
<wolve...@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/10/2023 2:04 PM, TechnoBoob wrote:
"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story abouttheir preaching—'turn the other cheek'—[and] to have
quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in
someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal
talking points?'" Moore said.
doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get to
"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus
Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that
the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as
subversive to us, then we're in a crisis.""
https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706
hear from a Godless Pagan giving his impression of an NPRI have very serious doubts about the veracity of this tale of
propaganda interview reported on the Democrat party mouthpiece
newsweek magazine website quoting a disgraced Never-Trumper who
no one gives two shits about what he says anymore. Right...
alleged Christians allegedly directly denouncing red-letter
statements of Jesus straight from their King James (TM) Bible.
As someone who has despised Trump ever since he first impinged on
my awareness back in the 1980s, and never voted for the SOB (What
can I say, I lived in Commiefornia at the time, and my vote was a
meaningless gesture; I chose to make it a "Plague on both your
parties" gesture.) I find it very telling that in this story that
the only alleged Christians who are putting their politics above
Jesus are on the right. No one on the left has ever, ever, EVER
done, said, or believed ANYTHING contrary to one bit of
Christianity.
That tells me that this story is more partisan political screed
than factual.
-- Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts." mvp at
calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane KE6BVH
| Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston
The left doesn't claim any religious affiliation with, or for,The left wants the whole nation to blindly follow their Science,
their call for government action, much unlike Evangelists do
constantly... The left's political goals are secular humanist...
The Christian right wants the whole nation to blindly follow their
King, because he said so!
because they say so.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:05:36 PM UTC-7, Mike Van PeltYeah, when I want to understand where the Christian voter is I want to
wrote:
In article <ub6ie4$11g7j$3...@dont-email.me>, sticks
<wolve...@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/10/2023 2:04 PM, TechnoBoob wrote:
"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story abouttheir preaching—'turn the other cheek'—[and] to have
quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in
someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal
talking points?'" Moore said.
doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get to
"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus
Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that
the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as
subversive to us, then we're in a crisis.""
https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706
hear from a Godless Pagan giving his impression of an NPRI have very serious doubts about the veracity of this tale of
propaganda interview reported on the Democrat party mouthpiece
newsweek magazine website quoting a disgraced Never-Trumper who
no one gives two shits about what he says anymore. Right...
alleged Christians allegedly directly denouncing red-letter
statements of Jesus straight from their King James (TM) Bible.
As someone who has despised Trump ever since he first impinged on
my awareness back in the 1980s, and never voted for the SOB (What
can I say, I lived in Commiefornia at the time, and my vote was a
meaningless gesture; I chose to make it a "Plague on both your
parties" gesture.) I find it very telling that in this story that
the only alleged Christians who are putting their politics above
Jesus are on the right. No one on the left has ever, ever, EVER
done, said, or believed ANYTHING contrary to one bit of
Christianity.
That tells me that this story is more partisan political screed
than factual.
-- Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts." mvp at
calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out Hurricane KE6BVH
| Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston
The left doesn't claim any religious affiliation with, or for,
their call for government action, much unlike Evangelists do
constantly... The left's political goals are secular humanist...
The Christian right wants the whole nation to blindly follow their
King, because he said so!
On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:30:56 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Yeah, when I want to understand where the Christian voter is I want to
Don Lampson wrote:
On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:05:36 PM UTC-7, Mike Van
Pelt wrote:
In article <ub6ie4$11g7j$3...@dont-email.me>, sticks
<wolve...@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/10/2023 2:04 PM, TechnoBoob wrote:
"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same storytheir preachingâ€â€'turn the other cheek'â€â€[and]
about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically,
in
to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get
those liberal talking points?'" Moore said.
doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get
"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus
Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that
to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen
as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis.""
https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706
The left wants the whole nation to blindly follow their Science,hear from a Godless Pagan giving his impression of an NPRI have very serious doubts about the veracity of this tale
propaganda interview reported on the Democrat party
mouthpiece newsweek magazine website quoting a disgraced
Never-Trumper who no one gives two shits about what he says
anymore. Right...
of alleged Christians allegedly directly denouncing
red-letter statements of Jesus straight from their King James
(TM) Bible.
As someone who has despised Trump ever since he first
impinged on my awareness back in the 1980s, and never voted
for the SOB (What can I say, I lived in Commiefornia at the
time, and my vote was a meaningless gesture; I chose to make
it a "Plague on both your parties" gesture.) I find it very
telling that in this story that the only alleged Christians
who are putting their politics above Jesus are on the right.
No one on the left has ever, ever, EVER done, said, or
believed ANYTHING contrary to one bit of Christianity.
That tells me that this story is more partisan political
screed than factual.
-- Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts."
mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out
Hurricane KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston
The left doesn't claim any religious affiliation with, or for,
their call for government action, much unlike Evangelists do
constantly... The left's political goals are secular
humanist... The Christian right wants the whole nation to
blindly follow their King, because he said so!
because they say so.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Sounds like a far more reasonable course of action to me... It's
going with what's known, or at least indicated by available
information, vs what an imaginary King up in the sky requires,
with a 2,000 year old book of mythology, filled with inaccuracies ,
as their "evidence".....
Don Lampson wrote:
On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:30:56 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Yeah, when I want to understand where the Christian voter is I want to
Don Lampson wrote:
On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:05:36 PM UTC-7, Mike Van >>> Pelt wrote:
In article <ub6ie4$11g7j$3...@dont-email.me>, sticks
<wolve...@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/10/2023 2:04 PM, TechnoBoob wrote:
"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same storytheir preaching 'turn the other cheek' [and]
about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically,
in
to have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you get
those liberal talking points?'" Moore said.
doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we get
"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting Jesus
Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but that
to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen
as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis.""
https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706
The left wants the whole nation to blindly follow their Science,hear from a Godless Pagan giving his impression of an NPRI have very serious doubts about the veracity of this tale
propaganda interview reported on the Democrat party
mouthpiece newsweek magazine website quoting a disgraced
Never-Trumper who no one gives two shits about what he says
anymore. Right...
of alleged Christians allegedly directly denouncing
red-letter statements of Jesus straight from their King James
(TM) Bible.
As someone who has despised Trump ever since he first
impinged on my awareness back in the 1980s, and never voted
for the SOB (What can I say, I lived in Commiefornia at the
time, and my vote was a meaningless gesture; I chose to make
it a "Plague on both your parties" gesture.) I find it very
telling that in this story that the only alleged Christians
who are putting their politics above Jesus are on the right.
No one on the left has ever, ever, EVER done, said, or
believed ANYTHING contrary to one bit of Christianity.
That tells me that this story is more partisan political
screed than factual.
-- Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're nuts."
mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding out
Hurricane KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in Galveston
The left doesn't claim any religious affiliation with, or for,
their call for government action, much unlike Evangelists do
constantly... The left's political goals are secular
humanist... The Christian right wants the whole nation to
blindly follow their King, because he said so!
because they say so.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Sounds like a far more reasonable course of action to me... It'sThere’s far more scientific fraud than anyone wants to admit.... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/09/scientific-misconduct-retraction-watch
going with what's known, or at least indicated by available
information, vs what an imaginary King up in the sky requires,
with a 2,000 year old book of mythology, filled with inaccuracies ,
as their "evidence".....
And then there's the recent Faulsy shenanigans.
Science these days is not much different from religion - you pick
whatever piece of what is uniquely possibly bullshit that floats your
boat, and run with it.
--------------------------------------------------
‘We may be the last maskers’: California COVID cases are rising. Here’s why health experts are masking indoors
13% increase in hospitalizations reported in three weeks ---------------------------------------------------- https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/08/02/we-may-be-the-last-maskers-covid-cases-are-rising-heres-why-health-experts-are-masking-indoors/
Are you following that science?
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:40:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Yeah, when I want to understand where the Christian voter is I want to
Don Lampson wrote:
On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:30:56 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
Don Lampson wrote:
On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:05:36 PM >>>>> UTC-7, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <ub6ie4$11g7j$3...@dont-email.me>, sticks
<wolve...@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/10/2023 2:04 PM, TechnoBoob wrote:
"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the sametheir preaching 'turn the other >>>>>>> cheek' [and] to have someone come up >>>>>>> after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking
story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount,
parenthetically, in
points?'" Moore said.
doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we
"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting
Jesus Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but
that
get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself
are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a
crisis.""
https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706
And then there's the recent Faulsy shenanigans.There’s far more scientific fraud than anyone wants toThe left wants the whole nation to blindly follow theirhear from a Godless Pagan giving his impression of anI have very serious doubts about the veracity of this
NPR propaganda interview reported on the Democrat
party mouthpiece newsweek magazine website quoting a
disgraced Never-Trumper who no one gives two shits
about what he says anymore. Right...
tale of alleged Christians allegedly directly denouncing
red-letter statements of Jesus straight from their King
James (TM) Bible.
As someone who has despised Trump ever since he first
impinged on my awareness back in the 1980s, and never
voted for the SOB (What can I say, I lived in
Commiefornia at the time, and my vote was a meaningless
gesture; I chose to make it a "Plague on both your
parties" gesture.) I find it very telling that in this
story that the only alleged Christians who are putting
their politics above Jesus are on the right. No one on
the left has ever, ever, EVER done, said, or believed
ANYTHING contrary to one bit of Christianity.
That tells me that this story is more partisan political
screed than factual.
-- Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're
nuts." mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding
out Hurricane KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in
Galveston
The left doesn't claim any religious affiliation with, or
for, their call for government action, much unlike
Evangelists do constantly... The left's political goals are
secular humanist... The Christian right wants the whole
nation to blindly follow their King, because he said so!
Science, because they say so.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Sounds like a far more reasonable course of action to me...
It's going with what's known, or at least indicated by
available information, vs what an imaginary King up in the sky
requires, with a 2,000 year old book of mythology, filled with
inaccuracies , as their "evidence".....
admit....
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/09/scientific-misconduct-retraction-watch
Are you following that science?
Science these days is not much different from religion - you
pick whatever piece of what is uniquely possibly bullshit that
floats your boat, and run with it.
-------------------------------------------------- ‘We may be
the last maskers’: California COVID cases are rising. Here’s >> why health experts are masking indoors 13% increase in
hospitalizations reported in three weeks
----------------------------------------------------
https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/08/02/we-may-be-the-last-maskers-covid-cases-are-rising-heres-why-health-experts-are-masking-indoors/
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
I try, but as any believing Christian can tell you, "The path is
fraught with obstructions, temptations, and feelings of guilt..."
Don Lampson wrote:
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:40:35 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Yeah, when I want to understand where the Christian voter is I want to >>>>>>> hear from a Godless Pagan giving his impression of an
Don Lampson wrote:
On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:30:56 PM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
Don Lampson wrote:
On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:05:36 PM >>>>> UTC-7, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <ub6ie4$11g7j$3...@dont-email.me>, sticks
<wolve...@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/10/2023 2:04 PM, TechnoBoob wrote:
"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the sametheir preaching 'turn the other >>>>>>> cheek' [and] to have someone come up
story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount,
parenthetically, in
after to say, 'Where did you get those liberal talking
points?'" Moore said.
doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When we
"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally quoting
Jesus Christ' ... The response would be, 'Yes, but
that
get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself
are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a
crisis.""
https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706
And then there's the recent Faulsy shenanigans.There’s far more scientific fraud than anyone wants toThe left wants the whole nation to blindly follow theirNPR propaganda interview reported on the DemocratI have very serious doubts about the veracity of this
party mouthpiece newsweek magazine website quoting a
disgraced Never-Trumper who no one gives two shits
about what he says anymore. Right...
tale of alleged Christians allegedly directly denouncing
red-letter statements of Jesus straight from their King
James (TM) Bible.
As someone who has despised Trump ever since he first
impinged on my awareness back in the 1980s, and never
voted for the SOB (What can I say, I lived in
Commiefornia at the time, and my vote was a meaningless
gesture; I chose to make it a "Plague on both your
parties" gesture.) I find it very telling that in this
story that the only alleged Christians who are putting
their politics above Jesus are on the right. No one on
the left has ever, ever, EVER done, said, or believed
ANYTHING contrary to one bit of Christianity.
That tells me that this story is more partisan political
screed than factual.
-- Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're
nuts." mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after riding
out Hurricane KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach in
Galveston
The left doesn't claim any religious affiliation with, or
for, their call for government action, much unlike
Evangelists do constantly... The left's political goals are
secular humanist... The Christian right wants the whole
nation to blindly follow their King, because he said so!
Science, because they say so.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Sounds like a far more reasonable course of action to me...
It's going with what's known, or at least indicated by
available information, vs what an imaginary King up in the sky
requires, with a 2,000 year old book of mythology, filled with
inaccuracies , as their "evidence".....
admit....
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/09/scientific-misconduct-retraction-watch
Are you following that science?
Science these days is not much different from religion - you
pick whatever piece of what is uniquely possibly bullshit that
floats your boat, and run with it.
-------------------------------------------------- ‘We may be
the last maskers’: California COVID cases are rising. Here’s >> why health experts are masking indoors 13% increase in
hospitalizations reported in three weeks
----------------------------------------------------
https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/08/02/we-may-be-the-last-maskers-covid-cases-are-rising-heres-why-health-experts-are-masking-indoors/
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
I try, but as any believing Christian can tell you, "The path isWell, as long as you're trying, feeling guilt, and don't take Fauci's
fraught with obstructions, temptations, and feelings of guilt..."
name in vain............
I'd pray for you, but it's been over 60 years since my last connection.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 6:27:55 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:Yeah, when I want to understand where the Christian voter is I want to >>>>>>>>> hear from a Godless Pagan giving his impression of
Don Lampson wrote:
On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:40:35 AM UTC-7, bfh
wrote:
Don Lampson wrote:
On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:30:56 PM >>>>> UTC-7, bfh wrote:
Don Lampson wrote:
On Friday, August 11, 2023 at
9:05:36 PM UTC-7, Mike
Van Pelt wrote:
In article <ub6ie4$11g7j$3...@dont-email.me>, sticks
<wolve...@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/10/2023 2:04 PM, TechnoBoob wrote:
"Multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the sametheir preachingâ€â€
story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount,
parenthetically, in
'turn the other
cheek' [and] to
have someone come up after to say, 'Where did you
get those liberal talking points?'" Moore said.
doesn't work anymore. That's weak," he added. "When
"When the pastor would say, 'I'm literally
quoting Jesus Christ' ... The response would be,
'Yes, but that
we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus
himself are seen as subversive to us, then we're in
a crisis.""
https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706
And then there's the recent Faulsy shenanigans.There’s far more scientific fraud than anyone wantsThe left wants the whole nation to blindly follow theiran NPR propaganda interview reported on theI have very serious doubts about the veracity of
Democrat party mouthpiece newsweek magazine website
quoting a disgraced Never-Trumper who no one gives
two shits about what he says anymore. Right...
this tale of alleged Christians allegedly directly
denouncing red-letter statements of Jesus straight
from their King James (TM) Bible.
As someone who has despised Trump ever since he
first impinged on my awareness back in the 1980s, and
never voted for the SOB (What can I say, I lived in
Commiefornia at the time, and my vote was a
meaningless gesture; I chose to make it a "Plague on
both your parties" gesture.) I find it very telling
that in this story that the only alleged Christians
who are putting their politics above Jesus are on the
right. No one on the left has ever, ever, EVER done,
said, or believed ANYTHING contrary to one bit of
Christianity.
That tells me that this story is more partisan
political screed than factual.
-- Mike Van Pelt | "I don't advise it unless you're
nuts." mvp at calweb.com | -- Ray Wilkinson, after
riding out Hurricane KE6BVH | Ike on Surfside Beach
in Galveston
The left doesn't claim any religious affiliation with,
or for, their call for government action, much unlike
Evangelists do constantly... The left's political goals
are secular humanist... The Christian right wants the
whole nation to blindly follow their King, because he
said so!
Science, because they say so.
-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Sounds like a far more reasonable course of action to
me... It's going with what's known, or at least indicated
by available information, vs what an imaginary King up in
the sky requires, with a 2,000 year old book of mythology,
filled with inaccuracies , as their "evidence".....
to admit....
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/09/scientific-misconduct-retraction-watch
Are you following that science?
Science these days is not much different from religion - you
pick whatever piece of what is uniquely possibly bullshit
that floats your boat, and run with it.
-------------------------------------------------- ‘We
may be the last maskers’: California COVID cases are
rising. Here’s why health experts are masking indoors >>>> 13% increase in hospitalizations reported in three weeks
----------------------------------------------------
https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/08/02/we-may-be-the-last-maskers-covid-cases-are-rising-heres-why-health-experts-are-masking-indoors/
Well, as long as you're trying, feeling guilt, and don't take-- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
I try, but as any believing Christian can tell you, "The path
is fraught with obstructions, temptations, and feelings of
guilt..."
Fauci's name in vain............
I'd pray for you, but it's been over 60 years since my last
connection. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
In Secular Humanism, nobody is sacred, and can easily be replaced,
or made a laughing stock of, by more advanced, scientific, "shot
callers"... Of course, I imagine whomever (using the scientific
method) found that horse wormer, would cure Covid thought he'd had
"a Eureka moment", too? Knowledge must always stumble through
ignorance.....
The left doesn't claim any religious affiliation with, or for, their call for government action, much unlike Evangelists do constantly... The left's political goals are secular humanist...
The Christian right wants the whole nation to blindly follow their King, because he said so!
In Secular Humanism, nobody is sacred, and can easily be replaced, or made a laughing stock of, by more advanced, scientific, "shot callers"...
Of course, I imagine whomever (using the scientific method) found that horse wormer, would cure Covid thought he'd had "a Eureka moment", too? Knowledge must always stumble through ignorance.....
On 8/12/2023 9:51 PM, Don wrote:
The Christian right wants the whole nation to blindly follow their King, because he said so!
Silly thing to say.
In article <ubdrdu$2e4k6$1@dont-email.me>,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/12/2023 9:51 PM, Don wrote:
The Christian right wants the whole nation to blindly follow their King, because he said so!
Silly thing to say.
There's not much point in trying to have a rational discussion with
someone who thinks "Landover Baptist Church" is real.
(I tried once. Even links to the Wikipedia article didn't convince 'em.)
In article <ubdrdu$2e4k6$1@dont-email.me>,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/12/2023 9:51 PM, Don wrote:
The Christian right wants the whole nation to blindly follow their King, because he said so!
Silly thing to say.
There's not much point in trying to have a rational discussion with
someone who thinks "Landover Baptist Church" is real.
(I tried once. Even links to the Wikipedia article didn't convince 'em.)
On 8/15/2023 11:25 AM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <ubdrdu$2e4k6$1@dont-email.me>,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/12/2023 9:51 PM, Don wrote:
The Christian right wants the whole nation to blindly follow their
King, because he said so!
Silly thing to say.
There's not much point in trying to have a rational discussion with
someone who thinks "Landover Baptist Church" is real.
(I tried once. Even links to the Wikipedia article didn't convince 'em.)
There's not much point in having rational discussions with those who
believe in talking bushes.
On 8/13/2023 9:56 PM, Don Lampson wrote:
In Secular Humanism, nobody is sacred, and can easily be replaced, or made a laughing stock of, by more advanced, scientific, "shot callers"...I assume you're speaking of ivermectin, a drug approved long ago for
Of course, I imagine whomever (using the scientific method) found that horse wormer, would cure Covid thought he'd had "a Eureka moment", too? Knowledge must always stumble through ignorance.....
human use with basically zero side effects that has been called a
"wonder drug" by the NIH. Are you unaware of the anti viral aspect of
the drug, or do you just like using leftwing talking points in calling
it a "horse wormer" to help Big Pharma and continue the campaign against
any remedial treatment for things like covid? If so, you're gonna end
up on the wrong side of history.
On 8/15/2023 2:14 PM, kmiller wrote:
On 8/15/2023 11:25 AM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <ubdrdu$2e4k6$1@dont-email.me>,There's not much point in having rational discussions with those who
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/12/2023 9:51 PM, Don wrote:
The Christian right wants the whole nation to blindly follow their
King, because he said so!
Silly thing to say.
There's not much point in trying to have a rational discussion with
someone who thinks "Landover Baptist Church" is real.
(I tried once. Even links to the Wikipedia article didn't convince 'em.) >>
believe in talking bushes.
Never miss an opportunity to attack religious faith. If you don't have anything of substance to say, just attack.
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/15/2023 2:14 PM, kmiller wrote:
On 8/15/2023 11:25 AM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <ubdrdu$2e4k6$1@dont-email.me>,There's not much point in having rational discussions with those who
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/12/2023 9:51 PM, Don wrote:
The Christian right wants the whole nation to blindly follow their >>>>>> King, because he said so!
Silly thing to say.
There's not much point in trying to have a rational discussion with
someone who thinks "Landover Baptist Church" is real.
(I tried once. Even links to the Wikipedia article didn't convince 'em.) >>>
believe in talking bushes.
Never miss an opportunity to attack religious faith. If you don't have
anything of substance to say, just attack.
Liberal modus operandi.
On 8/16/2023 5:36 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/15/2023 2:14 PM, kmiller wrote:
On 8/15/2023 11:25 AM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <ubdrdu$2e4k6$1@dont-email.me>,There's not much point in having rational discussions with those who
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/12/2023 9:51 PM, Don wrote:
The Christian right wants the whole nation to blindly follow their >>>>>>> King, because he said so!
Silly thing to say.
There's not much point in trying to have a rational discussion with
someone who thinks "Landover Baptist Church" is real.
(I tried once. Even links to the Wikipedia article didn't convince 'em.) >>>>
believe in talking bushes.
Never miss an opportunity to attack religious faith. If you don't have
anything of substance to say, just attack.
Liberal modus operandi.
Unfortunately, it is a way of doing business for those not really
capable of honest discussion. It would be very easy for many people
today to make a visual representation of the Moses account of the
Burning Bush, what Miller describes as the "talking bushes." The issue
for people like Miller is not that a bush can be made to not consume
itself when it burns, but that people would believe in God. Some avoid >saying that because it's always been a human right to have such beliefs.
Others avoid it because they are not well enough informed to have a
legitimate debate. Others, simply are not interested and have never
really researched issues relating to life and existence, especially
allowing for intelligent design. They are basically living with their
own faith, that it is something not important.
If you consider God's existence to be real the possibility of the
biblical burning bush is nothing. All of the miracles are explainable
if God exists. If you don't consider that, they're just a silly myths
from simple minded people.
Typically, people who do and say things like this, when asked if they
believe in God will reply that no, they believe in science. Usually
their understanding of the science and its shortcomings is about as good
as their understanding of religious doctrine. My favorite question to
ask someone like this is where the hydrogen and helium that exploded in
what is called the Big Bang came from. As someone who doesn't believe
in supernatural things like a burning bush, how did the hydrogen and
helium appear from nothing? Why was it there, and how did it get there?
This is where I believe they have faith. They don't have the answer,
just the faith that it doesn't matter.
It's turtles all the way down.
It's all we know and all we need to know.
Selah
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