• The Nazi party, a left-wing liberal movement

    From Jewbee@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 06:47:20 2017
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    The liberal atheist media has tried to portray the Nazis as a
    radical right-wing movement but any historian or politician
    who’s studied the Nazi party would find the exact opposite to be
    true.

    You will always here liberals and liberal atheists claim the
    Nazis were “far right wing” but its time for me to completely
    debunk that myth.

    The Nazis are labeled as “far right” simply for being fascist.
    By that definition, any party whether they are fiscally left or
    right would be labeled as “far right” if they are fascist.

    But far-right as in libertarian, pro-capitalist, pro-Austrian
    economist or small-government the Nazis were not.

    “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic
    economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak,
    with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a
    human being according to wealth and property instead of
    responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy
    this system under all conditions”

    – Adolf Hitler, Hitler’s speech on May 1, 1927. Cited in:
    Toland, John (1992). Adolf Hitler. Anchor Books. pp. 224–225.
    ISBN 0385037244.

    Some liberals have claimed that Hitler retracted this statement,
    this claim of course turned out to be just another lie. Hitler
    never retracted this statement ever. Instead a historian claims
    that Hitler had regrets about using the word “socialism” simply
    because Hitler said “”Socialism! That is an unfortunate word
    altogether”. But claiming that socialism is an unfortunate word
    is a far cry from retracting his statement. Contrary to what
    liberals claim, Hitler continued to strongly oppose capitalism
    and never retracted this statement.

    There is absolutely nothing conservative, pro-capitalist, or
    right-wing about the Nazis. Most conservatives are only anti-
    illegal immigration, not against all immigration like the Nazis
    were, and in the past conservatives like Ronald Reagan gave
    amnesty. I’m sure that most conservatives strongly oppose
    illegal immigration.

    The Nazis or National Socialists were very fiscally left-wing on
    nearly all issues, although you can find some isolated
    incidences where the Nazis supported privatization of some
    industry, private property or something along those lines, the
    Nazis still were overall anti-capitalist (as well as anti-
    communist) and strongly opposed to capitalism.

    The Nazis were also socially liberal on many issues as well.

    So what are my reasons for labeling the Nazis are being a far-
    left wing liberal movement?

    Nationalization of corporations and industries
    “13. We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated
    industries (trusts)”
    – The 25-point Program of the NSDAP

    So which party supports nationalization of corporations and
    industries? Is that more left-wing or right-wing?

    Profit-sharing
    “14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries”
    – The 25-point Program of the NSDAP

    Profit-sharing is definitely a left-wing liberal idea.

    Expansion of pension
    “15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare”
    – The 25-point Program of the NSDAP

    Expansion of old age welfare? Couldn’t be a small-government
    conservative if you supported it.

    Keynesian economic policies
    Basically all of the Nazi’s economic policies were Keynesian as
    opposed to Austrian. This means the Nazis supported (and in fact
    did) things like running large deficits and using government
    programs to reduce unemployment. There is absolutely nothing pro-
    Austrian economist about the Nazis at all.
    Anti-free-market capitalist
    The Nazis had government-controlled capitalism, which is a form
    of socialism and essentially the exact opposite of free-market
    capitalism (where the government has little to no control). The
    Nazi government had control over corporations. The Nazis also
    had government-controlled wages and prices as well. All these
    policies are the exact opposite of far right-wing free-market
    Austrian economists policies.
    Pro-animal rights
    It’s impossible to deny that the Nazis were pro-animal rights.
    An absolute and permanent ban on vivisection is not only a
    necessary law to protect animals and to show sympathy with their
    pain, but it is also a law for humanity itself

    – Hermann Göring, leading member of the Nazi party

    The Nazis were the very first country in history to ban
    vivisection. The Nazis also made restrictions on hunting and
    banned commercial animal trapping. Many people who violated
    animal rights laws were sent to concentration camps.

    So is being pro-animal rights more left or right?

    Pro-Government control
    “25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of
    a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the
    central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in
    general”
    – The 25-point Program of the NSDAP

    The Nazis wanted the government to have unlimited power over
    all. This is once again a typical leftist viewpoint of wanting
    government power over personal freedom. Leftists and liberals
    constantly promote the idea of more government involvement, more
    government control, and bigger government claiming that it is a
    good thing for the government to have power over individuals and
    corporations.

    When liberals argue that Hitler was some how right-wing their
    weak arguments usually involve:
    – Pointing out quotes where Hitler spoke out against Marxism
    (ignoring the quotes where Hitler spoke out against capitalism
    and that most liberal Democrats are not Marxists)
    – Intentionally ignoring the 25-point Program of the NDSAP
    – Pointing out that Hitler was patriotic or believed in a strong
    national defense (while ignoring that many other ideologies on
    the left also believe in patriotism and building a strong
    national defense)

    The simple fact is overall Hitler and the Nazis fit in closely
    to the left-wing liberal Democratic party. Their anti-communist
    and anti-capitalist views mesh very well with the modern liberal
    Democrat party, and there’s no way to deny this.

    Even White Nationalists on the most popular White Nationalist
    forum have admitted that the Nazis were left-wing – http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t617746/. The very same user who
    made this post is also admittedly an atheist saying “I’m an
    Atheist and an adherent to the Darwinian-Galtonian school of
    evolutionary thought”.

    So how can anyone deny that Hitler and the Nazis were much more
    left-wing than right-wing on nearly every issue, and much closer
    to left-wing overall than right-wing?

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  • From Topaz@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 21 11:18:35 2017
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    The Right Wing today is all about freedom. They stand for freedom for
    the sodomite parades, and the freedom to sell heroin, the freedom for prostitution and all other liberalism. But none of this is their main
    freedom. The main thing they want is freedom for the billionaires to
    be as greedy as they want with no interference. Having all the jobs go
    to Mexico and China so the billionaires can get even richer is their
    main goal. The right wing is financed by the billionaires and money
    talks.

    Some people think the Right Wing is totally against taxes. That is
    close but not quite. They are against taxes that do anything for
    Americans. But tax dollars going to Israel is a different story. The
    Right Wing is totally for that. The thing is that most of the
    billionaires and the international bankers are Jews. The Right Wing is
    also completely in favor of the wars for Jews in the Middle East.
    These wars are hugely expensive, but that is not big government
    because the money is being funneled to Jews and not Americans. That is considered good. And it doesn't matter how many American soldiers die
    for the Jews. The Jewish controlled media said that the Jews were
    America's only friends in the Middle East. The truth is that before
    these Jews, America didn't have any enemies in the Middle East.

    I have asked Right Wingers if they had any beliefs or values other
    than wanting to kiss up to billionaires and Jews. They don't answer. I
    have asked Right Wingers, that since they are for freedom, what
    exactly do they want to be free to do. They don't answer because they
    don't understand the question. Freedom is simply their favorite
    slogan. It's not supposed to actually mean anything.






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