Hi Bruce, long time no see.
I'm still reeling from that press report. Oh my they thought I worth all that? What a sad part of the world I live in.
The snakes always get away you know. When will I get it. When will I ever get it.
But some things to date still bother me. And I don' t know if I did right or wrong. Billv thwarted was me being stalked. And where do you take such? I was in distress. Does Mensa now offer support for moderators? I do hope so.
Stalking. Billv is still stalking me. Jesus.
Our history indicates that to answer
this question would serve to provide
a springboard for further argument.
On 12/12/2016 6:01 PM, sam ende wrote:
Hi Bruce, long time no see.
I'm still reeling from that press report. Oh my they thought I worth
all that? What a sad part of the world I live in.
The snakes always get away you know. When will I get it. When will I
ever get it.
But some things to date still bother me. And I don' t know if I did
right or wrong. Billv thwarted was me being stalked. And where do you
take such? I was in distress. Does Mensa now offer support for
moderators? I do hope so.
Stalking. Billv is still stalking me. Jesus.
This woman is/was intelligent and if she ever managed to get herself
together she's make someone a great partner. I had the world's toughest
time getting shed of her back in the day. The lashing out continued more
than a decade after I decided I'd be jumping out of a frying pan
(my wife at the time was a recovering but never quite recovered dry alcoholic) and into the fire if I were to continue with her. The
following email that I am posting (against netiquette but what the hell) demonstrates the truth of all that matters. I am now 80 years old, a
widower for the second time, and not in the market for the trouble that accompanies so many these days. Read the attempt she made to make peace
and return to communications with a critical eye and you'll discover
that even there the blame game, most unfortunately, continues. I should
think about what I say before she responds. As though I wasn't already walking on egg shells. Look at the date in 2001
Now is the time I chose to write this because I have gotten old and
with my health and the current situation in today's world I cannot be
certain I'll have another opportunity.
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billv wrote:
Our history indicates that to answer
this question would serve to provide
a springboard for further argument.
well why don't we just try it and see if it is so now?
i will try my hardest not to argue (but it would help if you define what
you mean by argument ?) and think about what you say before i respond ? =================================================================
Sammi, if you ever come back and read this let me say that the problem
was always that you had a secret agenda or few and became hostile to the point of toxicity if you didn't get your way. I am clearly not the only
man to arrive at this conclusion. Several came before me and at least
one afterwards.
There's a lot more that I could write but what is here resolves
everything I think important. I wish you the sanity and serenity that
you're having trouble finding.
On 4/11/20 2:04 PM, billv wrote:
It looks to me like a *lot* of people will be losing jobs, businesses, retirement account value, and more. Our own plans have needed some adjustment, but we count ourselves very fortunate. I hope you're
staying well clear of the virus, and riding out the storm.
On 4/14/2020 10:23 AM, Bruce S wrote:
On 4/11/20 2:04 PM, billv wrote:
<snip>
It looks to me like a *lot* of people will be losing jobs, businesses,
retirement account value, and more. Our own plans have needed some
adjustment, but we count ourselves very fortunate. I hope you're
staying well clear of the virus, and riding out the storm.
I live in a county that so far (200414 @ 2PM) has had no confirmed cases
of Covid19, but that doesn't mean it isn't here.
I mostly stay at home with an occasional foray for food or gasoline.
Town, such as it is, is about 8 miles away.The entire county has one red light and one flashing red/yellow light with a county population just
under 10,000. Heck NYC has city blocks exceeding that.
I had an abdominal aortic aneurysm that was repaired in 2006 but has in
the past year showed some signs of becoming repressurized, so it is
going to be a trick finding out exactly why with my allergy to
radiographic contrast and kidney problems on top of it. The nearby
clinic (120 miles) in Wisconsin is pretty good but they're falling short
at the moment of the professionalism of the Mayo clinic where I had the original repair done and I'm doubtless headed there for the solution.
I'll probably be done with diagnosis and repair next month (May 2020.)
Mayo is a full days drive from my home so with surgery involved and
nobody at home, corrective surgery will doubtless put me in a nursing
home for about a week, assuming the surgery goes well. Sigh. These are
my "golden years." :-)
At least I'm not bored! Please don't think I'm complaining, I'm not. Our plight as we get older involves these sorts of things and we just have
to roll with the punches, there are still plenty of really good days and
our problems at earlier ages were there just as much, they were just of
a different sort.
For example last month at dusk when I was driving home a deer decided to
get into my path. I pulled over to the right as far as I could so I only
hit its head. But that spun the deer around and its haunches got the
driver's side door. Total damage was a little over $3000 and I was
without the car for 3 weeks. Fortunately I was able to take the snowplow
off the pickup and had that as transportation. The pickup is lovely with
a posh interior and I don't mind driving it but it gets half the gas
mileage of the car. So it isn't all about health, life has its own way
of providing, shall I say, challenges of various sorts. The deer did
manage to get up and run away, but when you hit an animal in the head
with a vehicle traveling at 55mph (I was watching my speed because there
was a vehicle behind me and it was pacing me--and I was right to be
cautious because it had an "off duty" sheriff's deputy in it. Yes he
stopped and called in the accident but did not file the reports.) they generally don't survive.
Anyway, as the deputy said, that was wolf country so that deer wasn't
going to last long. In this part of the USA the deer get pretty
large.
I do like living in the country, in a "hole in the forest" and nothing
could get me to go back to suburban living let alone the neighborhood I enjoyed in Queens NY when I was 21 years old. I liked the city then, but
have become accustomed to the country and the solitude. I live on a
major US highway but where I am it is much quieter here than where I
lived in a suburban subdivision in Illinois. The trees block most of
such sound such as there is. Living in a big curve also helps, the tree distribution pretty much blocks the sound of trucks except when they are directly in front of the house. And truckers in this part of the country
like night hours when they can make better time. The legal speed limit
in front of my house on a 2 lane highway is 65mph which means generally
no tickets so long as you stay below 80mph.
Nice to hear from you, sorry to chew your ear off (hell no I'm not. :-)
On 4/14/20 8:46 PM, billv wrote:
On 4/14/2020 10:23 AM, Bruce S wrote:
On 4/11/20 2:04 PM, billv wrote:
<snip>
It looks to me like a *lot* of people will be losing jobs, businesses,
retirement account value, and more. Our own plans have needed some
adjustment, but we count ourselves very fortunate. I hope you're
staying well clear of the virus, and riding out the storm.
I live in a county that so far (200414 @ 2PM) has had no confirmed cases
of Covid19, but that doesn't mean it isn't here.
That's a sort of good news/bad news thing. At some point, everything
will be opened up again, and unless the virus is completely eradicated,
it will spread again, posing the same danger again to those not already exposed. With the lack of testing, I have no idea if I've had it or
not, though there's enough around here that it seems likely.
I mostly stay at home with an occasional foray for food or gasoline.
Town, such as it is, is about 8 miles away.The entire county has one red
light and one flashing red/yellow light with a county population just
under 10,000. Heck NYC has city blocks exceeding that.
We're not that much farther away from Denver, but we rarely go there in
the best of times. This is "suburbs", though as a kid I'd have thought
of it as pretty much "city", with all the roads paved, traffic lights,
and plenty of businesses. Every Monday I have to take one of our dogs
to the vet (ap. 1/2 mile to mile), and yesterday I went out for scripts
and groceries, probably 3 miles round trip. Two trips out in two days seemed like a lot. My car hasn't been out of the garage in months. I
need to sell it as part of our retirement planning, and the truck we
bought as part of that is in the way. I also haven't had either of my motorcycles (one of which I also need to sell) out in weeks. I just use
my wife's car, which we plan to sell shortly before heading out for the full-time RV lifestyle. No RV yet, but plan to get a ginormous 5th
wheel toy hauler, which we'll pull with our new Ram 3500 dually. With
the economic crash coming, we'll probably have to delay selling the
house.
I had an abdominal aortic aneurysm that was repaired in 2006 but has in
the past year showed some signs of becoming repressurized, so it is
going to be a trick finding out exactly why with my allergy to
radiographic contrast and kidney problems on top of it. The nearby
clinic (120 miles) in Wisconsin is pretty good but they're falling short
at the moment of the professionalism of the Mayo clinic where I had the
original repair done and I'm doubtless headed there for the solution.
I'll probably be done with diagnosis and repair next month (May 2020.)
Those things are no joke! My father-in-law had an aortic aneurysm, and unfortunately stayed in his home state of MS to be treated. It sounds
like your available medical care is much better, but that's still a
very sobering situation.
Mayo is a full days drive from my home so with surgery involved and
nobody at home, corrective surgery will doubtless put me in a nursing
home for about a week, assuming the surgery goes well. Sigh. These are
my "golden years." :-)
I joined the old-age-medical-problems world at a mere 42, when I got my cancer diagnosis. Only after telling all family members about it did I
find out that not only my maternal grandfather had colon cancer, but so
did many other relatives, including some very minor cases and a few
serious ones.
At least I'm not bored! Please don't think I'm complaining, I'm not. Our
plight as we get older involves these sorts of things and we just have
to roll with the punches, there are still plenty of really good days and
our problems at earlier ages were there just as much, they were just of
a different sort.
Complaining is one of the great joys of life! I know someone who seems
to get very little other kinds of entertainment. She was once described
as "She's not happy unless she's not happy", which I thought was great.
For example last month at dusk when I was driving home a deer decided to
get into my path. I pulled over to the right as far as I could so I only
hit its head. But that spun the deer around and its haunches got the
driver's side door. Total damage was a little over $3000 and I was
without the car for 3 weeks. Fortunately I was able to take the snowplow
off the pickup and had that as transportation. The pickup is lovely with
a posh interior and I don't mind driving it but it gets half the gas
mileage of the car. So it isn't all about health, life has its own way
of providing, shall I say, challenges of various sorts. The deer did
manage to get up and run away, but when you hit an animal in the head
with a vehicle traveling at 55mph (I was watching my speed because there
was a vehicle behind me and it was pacing me--and I was right to be
cautious because it had an "off duty" sheriff's deputy in it. Yes he
stopped and called in the accident but did not file the reports.) they
generally don't survive.
So far, I haven't hit any deer. Once, we were coming back up from
Colorado Springs, and a brother-in-law was driving our other car. He
didn't so much hit a deer with it as get hit by one. But the car was a Saturn (POS in many ways) and the door panel just popped right back out
with no visible damage. When on two wheels, especially around dawn
and dusk, and especially on twisty country roads, I'm a bit paranoid
about those pests. When you hit a deer with a motorcycle, you're
generally not too worried about vehicle damage.
Anyway, as the deputy said, that was wolf country so that deer wasn't
going to last long. In this part of the USA the deer get pretty
large.
I do like living in the country, in a "hole in the forest" and nothing
could get me to go back to suburban living let alone the neighborhood I
enjoyed in Queens NY when I was 21 years old. I liked the city then, but
have become accustomed to the country and the solitude. I live on a
major US highway but where I am it is much quieter here than where I
lived in a suburban subdivision in Illinois. The trees block most of
such sound such as there is. Living in a big curve also helps, the tree
distribution pretty much blocks the sound of trucks except when they are
directly in front of the house. And truckers in this part of the country
like night hours when they can make better time. The legal speed limit
in front of my house on a 2 lane highway is 65mph which means generally
no tickets so long as you stay below 80mph.
I like the country, though I like this sort of suburbs, too. When we
get tired of RVing, we intend to get some acres in the country, probably somewhere like eastern Tennessee. I've never really liked cities, and
would definitely not want to live in a big one like NYC. We like to be
able to grow some of our own food, and don't want to know what kind of
music our next-door neighbor likes, or whether he smokes, etc.
Nice to hear from you, sorry to chew your ear off (hell no I'm not. :-)
LOL, certainly no complaints here about ear damage. I'm glad you're
doing OK. I don't even know how many people I've lost track of that
I used to know through Usenet.
On 4/15/2020 11:42 AM, Bruce S wrote:
On 4/14/20 8:46 PM, billv wrote:
On 4/14/2020 10:23 AM, Bruce S wrote:
On 4/11/20 2:04 PM, billv wrote:
<snip>
It looks to me like a *lot* of people will be losing jobs, businesses, >>>> retirement account value, and more. Our own plans have needed some
adjustment, but we count ourselves very fortunate. I hope you're
staying well clear of the virus, and riding out the storm.
I live in a county that so far (200414 @ 2PM) has had no confirmed cases >>> of Covid19, but that doesn't mean it isn't here.
That's a sort of good news/bad news thing. At some point, everything
will be opened up again, and unless the virus is completely eradicated,
it will spread again, posing the same danger again to those not already
exposed. With the lack of testing, I have no idea if I've had it or
not, though there's enough around here that it seems likely.
I'm pretty much in the same boat. Ultimately IMO the question will be
did the shutdown of the world economy do anything other than delay the inevitable.
I mostly stay at home with an occasional foray for food or gasoline.
Town, such as it is, is about 8 miles away.The entire county has one red >>> light and one flashing red/yellow light with a county population just
under 10,000. Heck NYC has city blocks exceeding that.
We're not that much farther away from Denver, but we rarely go there in
the best of times. This is "suburbs", though as a kid I'd have thought
of it as pretty much "city", with all the roads paved, traffic lights,
and plenty of businesses. Every Monday I have to take one of our dogs
to the vet (ap. 1/2 mile to mile), and yesterday I went out for scripts
and groceries, probably 3 miles round trip. Two trips out in two days
seemed like a lot. My car hasn't been out of the garage in months. I
need to sell it as part of our retirement planning, and the truck we
bought as part of that is in the way. I also haven't had either of my
motorcycles (one of which I also need to sell) out in weeks. I just use
my wife's car, which we plan to sell shortly before heading out for the
full-time RV lifestyle. No RV yet, but plan to get a ginormous 5th
wheel toy hauler, which we'll pull with our new Ram 3500 dually. With
the economic crash coming, we'll probably have to delay selling the
house.
I had an abdominal aortic aneurysm that was repaired in 2006 but has in
the past year showed some signs of becoming repressurized, so it is
going to be a trick finding out exactly why with my allergy to
radiographic contrast and kidney problems on top of it. The nearby
clinic (120 miles) in Wisconsin is pretty good but they're falling short >>> at the moment of the professionalism of the Mayo clinic where I had the
original repair done and I'm doubtless headed there for the solution.
I'll probably be done with diagnosis and repair next month (May 2020.)
Those things are no joke! My father-in-law had an aortic aneurysm, and
unfortunately stayed in his home state of MS to be treated. It sounds
like your available medical care is much better, but that's still a
very sobering situation.
Compound all that with the heart currently acting up. I can't tell for
sure whether I am dealing with a real coronary issue or the side effects
of a flu, perhaps even the current corona. I don't have a real fever or
a cough but I get winded easily and heartbeat picks up way more than it should for mild exercise, such as walking from the living room to the bathroom at the opposite end of the house. I need to resolve that
question pronto because right behind it is significant AAA surgery, we
just don't know which surgery as yet.
Mayo is a full days drive from my home so with surgery involved and
nobody at home, corrective surgery will doubtless put me in a nursing
home for about a week, assuming the surgery goes well. Sigh. These are
my "golden years." :-)
I joined the old-age-medical-problems world at a mere 42, when I got my
cancer diagnosis. Only after telling all family members about it did I
find out that not only my maternal grandfather had colon cancer, but so
did many other relatives, including some very minor cases and a few
serious ones.
Frankly I'm somewhat surprised that with as much cancer as has been in
my family it hasn't stuck around me long enough to be noticed. I think
we all have cancers from time to time and most of us most of the time
beat them.
At least I'm not bored! Please don't think I'm complaining, I'm not. Our >>> plight as we get older involves these sorts of things and we just have
to roll with the punches, there are still plenty of really good days and >>> our problems at earlier ages were there just as much, they were just of
a different sort.
Complaining is one of the great joys of life! I know someone who seems
to get very little other kinds of entertainment. She was once described
as "She's not happy unless she's not happy", which I thought was great.
For example last month at dusk when I was driving home a deer decided to >>> get into my path. I pulled over to the right as far as I could so I only >>> hit its head. But that spun the deer around and its haunches got the
driver's side door. Total damage was a little over $3000 and I was
without the car for 3 weeks. Fortunately I was able to take the snowplow >>> off the pickup and had that as transportation. The pickup is lovely with >>> a posh interior and I don't mind driving it but it gets half the gas
mileage of the car. So it isn't all about health, life has its own way
of providing, shall I say, challenges of various sorts. The deer did
manage to get up and run away, but when you hit an animal in the head
with a vehicle traveling at 55mph (I was watching my speed because there >>> was a vehicle behind me and it was pacing me--and I was right to be
cautious because it had an "off duty" sheriff's deputy in it. Yes he
stopped and called in the accident but did not file the reports.) they
generally don't survive.
So far, I haven't hit any deer. Once, we were coming back up from
Colorado Springs, and a brother-in-law was driving our other car. He
didn't so much hit a deer with it as get hit by one. But the car was a
Saturn (POS in many ways) and the door panel just popped right back out
with no visible damage. When on two wheels, especially around dawn
and dusk, and especially on twisty country roads, I'm a bit paranoid
about those pests. When you hit a deer with a motorcycle, you're
generally not too worried about vehicle damage.
Such venison as I've tasted has left me underwhelmed. Simply a matter of taste. So yes, AFAIC they're pests. I had to fence my gardens back when
I was doing that. More maintenance and problems putting them up and
taking them down to get the tractor with a 5 foot rototiller to do the hardest work. None of my gardens (max 4 at one time) were what would be considered small. I'll be eating frozen string beans for a few more
years though the last batch I grew was in 2017.
Anyway, as the deputy said, that was wolf country so that deer wasn't
going to last long. In this part of the USA the deer get pretty
large.
I do like living in the country, in a "hole in the forest" and nothing
could get me to go back to suburban living let alone the neighborhood I
enjoyed in Queens NY when I was 21 years old. I liked the city then, but >>> have become accustomed to the country and the solitude. I live on a
major US highway but where I am it is much quieter here than where I
lived in a suburban subdivision in Illinois. The trees block most of
such sound such as there is. Living in a big curve also helps, the tree
distribution pretty much blocks the sound of trucks except when they are >>> directly in front of the house. And truckers in this part of the country >>> like night hours when they can make better time. The legal speed limit
in front of my house on a 2 lane highway is 65mph which means generally
no tickets so long as you stay below 80mph.
I like the country, though I like this sort of suburbs, too. When we
get tired of RVing, we intend to get some acres in the country, probably
somewhere like eastern Tennessee. I've never really liked cities, and
would definitely not want to live in a big one like NYC. We like to be
able to grow some of our own food, and don't want to know what kind of
music our next-door neighbor likes, or whether he smokes, etc.
Nice to hear from you, sorry to chew your ear off (hell no I'm not. :-)
LOL, certainly no complaints here about ear damage. I'm glad you're
doing OK. I don't even know how many people I've lost track of that
I used to know through Usenet.
About usenet friends, mine weren't all they were cracked up to be. I met
and spent time with "winter" and "Penny" in fact a long afternoon and
dinner together, and of course sammi (Alice with malice). I honestly can
say that meeting them and getting to know them didn't improve my life
even a little bit. The one flared up in this newsgroup and elsewhere on usenet after that fact. "winter" was a rather negative and to use the
word strange is insufficient description of that parting. The sanest of
the bunch but still just a few steps this side of sane was Penny, but
then she's a mathematician and every one of those I've ever encountered
seems to have only one foot on this side of crazy.
OTOH back in the BBS days I participated on the immediate descendant of
CBBS (chinet-still running but on the internet) that was the world's
first dial up BBS. Among that bunch there was a full range of types,
some of them worthy of lifetime friendships, but they've fallen by the wayside just as your acquaintances from usenet have. But to backtrack, I
did have 2 or 3 postings on CBBS that ran on a 2 8 inch floppies,
remember them? The moderators there edited out extra spaces and lines
because space was at such a premium. An empty space was 1 ASCII
character and a blank line consumed 2.
About Coviud-19, I wonder how many who died of during their encounter
with the disease would have died withing a year anyway. It appears to
me that the hype is more important to politicos and newspern than any reality.
On 4/14/20 8:46 PM, billv wrote:
Nice to hear from you, sorry to chew your ear off (hell no I'm not. :-)
LOL, certainly no complaints here about ear damage. I'm glad you're
doing OK. I don't even know how many people I've lost track of that
I used to know through Usenet.
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