• "They exchanged the truth of God for a lie..." (Ro 1:25)

    From Turin Turd@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 3 08:04:06 2017
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    On 02/04/2017 23:42, & wrote:
    On 04/02/2017 06:53 AM, felix wrote:
    On Sunday, 2 Apr 2017 5:11 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
    Pelican wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Pelican wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as
    a god.
    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.
    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.
    however, there is good and evil
    Yes. Peace is good. Love is good. Truth is good.

    Organised religion is evil, because it demands and
    inculcates mass delusion.

    And the three monotheisms (Judaism, Christianty and Islam)
    are the most evil creeds on the planet, because they add
    institutionalised bigotry to the mix.
    Are you suggesting that Marxism has gone past its useby
    date?
    Your point escapes me. Marxism isn't good or evil (though its
    perversions are definitely evil); neither is it religion. If
    you're asking whether people should stop believing in it, the
    answer is yes; If you're asking whether it should be discarded,
    the answer is no.
    Monotheism is the same - neither good or evil.
    As an abstract, it's like polytheism: just plain silly. However, I
    did not speak of monotheism as a general concept; I spoke of three
    specific monotheist cults: Judaism, Christiamity, and Islam.

    the Christian God is in three parts, Father, Son, and Holy
    Ghost/Spirit- the Trinity


    you meant to say the only god . im right

    All three are organised religions, which is to say they demand and
    inculcate the delusions they've developed. And that is evil.

    Moreover, their insistence on a one god ideology is
    institutionalised bigotry: a wellspring of fear, suspicion and
    hatred at the very core of their dogma. It is the genesis of the
    genocides that all three are guilty of.

    Those pushing one of its perversions via organised religion are
    another matter.
    Even pure, if it's organised, it's evil.

    Ned




    “&” is an infamous and anonymous internet troll. He launches
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    Men’s Rights activists and their posts and against Men’s Rights organizations. He therefore, has as his goals the disruption of
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    leaders of the men’s rights movement and men’s rights organizations.

    FOAD TURIN you moron

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to Amper Sand the Loser on Mon Apr 3 07:14:24 2017
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    Amper Sand the Loser wrote:
    Ned Retard wrote:

    ----snip----

    Humanism isn't a religion, Loser.

    it doesnt have to be

    Nice of you to give it permission, Loiser.

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to Amoer Sand the Loser on Mon Apr 3 07:11:42 2017
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    Amoer Sand the Loser wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    And now more duke puke:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid religious
    crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Bet you a thousand dollars to a donut hole there is.

    You're on, moron. Prove it and win your donut hole.

    we knew you couldnt back up your claim liar

    Yair, yair. Like you know the fairies at the bottom of the
    garden are coming to take you away, ha ha,
    They're coming to take you away, ho ho hee hee ha haaa.

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  • From Pelican@21:1/5 to Ned Latham on Mon Apr 3 17:55:37 2017
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    On 3/04/2017 17:46, Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Pelican wrote:

    ----snip----

    Think whatever you like, but the NT was not exactly written
    contemporaneously with the life of Jesus, and what Jesus
    actually said and what he actually meant is subject to
    whatever a writer chose to write.

    Well, no: the *recoird* of what he said and meant.

    yes, and so you cannot assert what view(s) Jesus held or not.

    Actually, we can. The gospels actually make sense if you accept
    them as Essene propaganda, aimed at distracting the Romans from
    the reality behind the events recorded so as to hide the fact of
    the impending revolution. (Historians call it the First Jewish
    War. It ended at Masada, in 73 CE.)

    As an Essene, Jeshua bar Joshiph believed that the Roman Empire
    was idolatrous: an evil thing that must be extirpated from
    Creation, and that the Jews should live under the "Kingdom of
    God", which was to be a theocracy ruled by the Laws of Deuteronomy.

    Sort of an ancient Jewish equivalent of modern Islam's Caliphate
    and Sharia Law. (And the Essenes were like ISIL ... Brrr!)

    ----snip----

    That's strong stuff you are smoking!

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to felix on Mon Apr 3 07:46:07 2017
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    felix wrote:
    Pelican wrote:

    ----snip----

    Think whatever you like, but the NT was not exactly written contemporaneously with the life of Jesus, and what Jesus
    actually said and what he actually meant is subject to
    whatever a writer chose to write.

    Well, no: the *recoird* of what he said and meant.

    yes, and so you cannot assert what view(s) Jesus held or not.

    Actually, we can. The gospels actually make sense if you accept
    them as Essene propaganda, aimed at distracting the Romans from
    the reality behind the events recorded so as to hide the fact of
    the impending revolution. (Historians call it the First Jewish
    War. It ended at Masada, in 73 CE.)

    As an Essene, Jeshua bar Joshiph believed that the Roman Empire
    was idolatrous: an evil thing that must be extirpated from
    Creation, and that the Jews should live under the "Kingdom of
    God", which was to be a theocracy ruled by the Laws of Deuteronomy.

    Sort of an ancient Jewish equivalent of modern Islam's Caliphate
    and Sharia Law. (And the Essenes were like ISIL ... Brrr!)

    ----snip----

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to Pelican on Mon Apr 3 08:38:31 2017
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    Pelican wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Pelican wrote:

    ----snip----

    Think whatever you like, but the NT was not exactly written contemporaneously with the life of Jesus, and what Jesus
    actually said and what he actually meant is subject to
    whatever a writer chose to write.

    Well, no: the *recoird* of what he said and meant.

    yes, and so you cannot assert what view(s) Jesus held or not.

    Actually, we can. The gospels actually make sense if you accept
    them as Essene propaganda, aimed at distracting the Romans from
    the reality behind the events recorded so as to hide the fact of
    the impending revolution. (Historians call it the First Jewish
    War. It ended at Masada, in 73 CE.)

    As an Essene, Jeshua bar Joshiph believed that the Roman Empire
    was idolatrous: an evil thing that must be extirpated from
    Creation, and that the Jews should live under the "Kingdom of
    God", which was to be a theocracy ruled by the Laws of Deuteronomy.

    Sort of an ancient Jewish equivalent of modern Islam's Caliphate
    and Sharia Law. (And the Essenes were like ISIL ... Brrr!)

    That's strong stuff you are smoking!

    *sigh* I wish. Haven't seen any good green for yonks.

    Ned

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to felix on Mon Apr 3 06:38:50 2017
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    On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 11:41:20 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:

    On Sunday, 2 Apr 2017 11:33 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid religious crap: >>>>>>>>>>
    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as a god.
    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.
    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.
    however, there is good and evil
    Satan can be considered as a concept to personify the source of evil
    You can "personify" the source of good too
    Yep. God.
    As I said, felix, "you can 'personify' the source of good too, and what
    you've got is an opening for the theists to drive their trucks through".
    They're lunatics. You should *never* give them an opening.

    and none can answer the question why a loving God allows human
    suffering,

    Ask yourself why God let's us die, and you get the same answer for suffering.

    and in fact instigated it by creating humans (according to
    the belief) and leaving them to fend for themselves

    You sound like a child.

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 3 06:43:41 2017
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    On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 13:23:01 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    however, there is good and evil

    Yes.

    And evil (satan) is the opposite of love (God).
    There's no such thing as a god, dimwit.

    Well, not in your world. But you'll cry when you die.

    Organised religion is evil, because it demands and inculcates mass
    delusion.

    Believe me, we freely choose to accept.

    That's to be expected from lunatics.

    I win, you lose if I'm correct. You don't stand a chance.

    And the three monotheisms (Judaism, Christianty and Islam) are the most
    evil creeds on the planet, because they add institutionalised bigotry
    to the mix.
    Well, there goes your intelligence factor.

    Wrong pronoun, moron.

    So is 3-religion creed, moron.

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to felix on Mon Apr 3 06:45:01 2017
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    On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 11:37:08 +1000, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote:

    On Sunday, 2 Apr 2017 10:59 PM, duke wrote:
    On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 21:16:22 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> >> wrote:

    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as a god.
    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.
    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.
    however, there is good and evil
    Yes.
    And evil (satan) is the opposite of love (God).

    Organised religion is evil, because it demands and inculcates mass
    delusion.
    Believe me, we freely choose to accept.

    it's called faith because there is no proof,

    Yet we have massive evidence.

    and it exposes you to all
    sorts of manipulations, because there's no way of proving what is right
    or wrong when rationality and facts are not the basis of belief

    Thanks be to God for the evidence in rationality and facts.


    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 3 06:45:50 2017
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    On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 13:27:29 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Why don't you believe in Jesus, Ned?

    I believe that there was a man named Jeshua bar Joshiph who was an
    Essene swordman (that's the ancient Hebrew equivalent of the modern
    Islamist suicide bomber), who was on a mission to assassinate the
    Chief Priest, and was caught, armed and at night, skulking in the
    grounds of his residence, handed over to the Romans, and sentenced
    to death and executed in the normal manner for that crime.

    The "gospels" are Essene propaganda, written to keep the Romans
    ignorant of the organization that was building up for another
    attempt at evicting them, but if you read them carefully, you
    can see the details that reveal the truth. For example, we know
    that they were armed when caught, because "Peter" cut off a
    guard's ear. And we know too, that the leader of the group wasn't
    Jeshua, it was Barabbas; that's evident in his "name" which is
    in reality a title, not a name: it is, in fact, "bar Abba", an
    Aramaic title meaning "son of the father". And from the Dead Sea
    scrolls we know "Kingdom of God" was code for the Theocracy the
    Essenes wanted to establish. Sort of like the ISIL Caliphate.

    So my opinion is that Jesus the terrorist existed; Jesus the
    Messiah did not.

    And there's no such thing as a god.

    Yep, you live in oz for sure.

    And you in La-la-land.

    And not only that, but I'm on the right side.

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to Turin Turd on Mon Apr 3 06:46:57 2017
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    On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 08:03:08 +0100, Turin Turd <dumbfuck@dumbo.com> wrote:

    On 02/04/2017 02:37, & wrote:
    On 04/01/2017 06:22 PM, Ted wrote:
    Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Why don't you believe in Jesus, Ned?


    why are you bad excuse for troll

    & is an infamous and anonymous internet troll.

    And a turin turd is real?? Heeheehee.

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 3 06:47:50 2017
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    On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 13:16:48 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    And now more duke puke:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Bet you a thousand dollars to a donut hole there is.

    You're on, moron. Prove it and win your donut hole.

    I have the evidence. What do you have?

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to puke on Mon Apr 3 17:10:25 2017
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    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing
    as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    however, there is good and evil

    Yes.

    And evil (satan) is the opposite of love (God).

    There's no such thing as a god, dimwit.

    Well, not in your world.

    Unlike you, I'm not insane enough to suppose that people inhabit
    their own worlds.

    There is no such thing as a god. Full stop.

    But you'll cry when you die.

    And with the representative of the so-called "religion of love"
    reveals his true colour.

    Organised religion is evil, because it demands and
    inculcates mass delusion.

    Believe me, we freely choose to accept.

    That's to be expected from lunatics.

    I win, you lose if I'm correct. You don't stand a chance.

    I stand exactly the same chance as you, lunatic.

    And the three monotheisms (Judaism, Christianty and Islam)
    are the most evil creeds on the planet, because they add institutionalised bigotry to the mix.

    Well, there goes your intelligence factor.

    Wrong pronoun, moron.

    So is 3-religion creed, moron.

    There's no such thing, lunatic: I said "creeds". And even if I'd
    said "creed", "wrong pronoun", would have been the wrong criticism.
    Get yourself off to those Remedial English classes I keep having
    to recommend to you semiliterate clowns.

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to puke on Mon Apr 3 16:51:54 2017
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    puke wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote
    some stupid religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing
    as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    however, there is good and evil

    Satan can be considered as a concept to personify the
    source of evil

    You can "personify" the source of good too

    Yep. God.

    As I said, felix, "you can 'personify' the source of good too,
    and what you've got is an opening for the theists to drive their
    trucks through". They're lunatics. You should *never* give them
    an opening.

    and none can answer the question why a loving God allows human
    suffering,

    Ask yourself why God let's us die, and you get the same answer
    for suffering.

    As I said, felix, they're lunatics. Can you imagine anyone crazier
    than the kind if nutjob who comforts himself with a sadistic sky
    fairy, a figment of some other nutjob's imagination?

    and in fact instigated it by creating humans (according to
    the belief) and leaving them to fend for themselves

    You sound like a child.

    So says the bedtime-story lunatic.

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to puke on Mon Apr 3 17:30:56 2017
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    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted wrote:

    ----snip----

    Why don't you believe in Jesus, Ned?

    I believe that there was a man named Jeshua bar Joshiph who was an Essene swordman (that's the ancient Hebrew equivalent of the modern Islamist suicide bomber), who was on a mission to assassinate the
    Chief Priest, and was caught, armed and at night, skulking in the grounds of his residence, handed over to the Romans, and sentenced
    to death and executed in the normal manner for that crime.

    The "gospels" are Essene propaganda, written to keep the Romans ignorant of the organization that was building up for another
    attempt at evicting them, but if you read them carefully, you
    can see the details that reveal the truth. For example, we know
    that they were armed when caught, because "Peter" cut off a
    guard's ear. And we know too, that the leader of the group wasn't Jeshua, it was Barabbas; that's evident in his "name" which is
    in reality a title, not a name: it is, in fact, "bar Abba", an
    Aramaic title meaning "son of the father". And from the Dead Sea scrolls we know "Kingdom of God" was code for the Theocracy the
    Essenes wanted to establish. Sort of like the ISIL Caliphate.

    So my opinion is that Jesus the terrorist existed; Jesus the
    Messiah did not.

    And there's no such thing as a god.

    Yep, you live in oz for sure.

    And you in La-la-land.

    And not only that, but I'm on the right side.

    That's one of the evidences of your bigotry, you lunatic. That
    nasty "them and us" mentality you share with Jews and Muslims.
    There are no sides; only people, whom *your* bigotry has condemned
    to lives of misery and want.

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to puke on Mon Apr 3 17:24:23 2017
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    puke wrote:
    felix wroye:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then puke added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing
    as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    however, there is good and evil

    Yes.

    And evil (satan) is the opposite of love (God).

    Organised religion is evil, because it demands and inculcates
    mass delusion.

    Believe me, we freely choose to accept.

    THat's to be expected from lunatics.

    it's called faith because there is no proof,

    Yet we have massive evidence.

    You need Remedial Mathematics as well as Remedial Ebglish. Come
    back to us when you've understood that "zero" does not equate
    to "massive".

    and it exposes you to all sorts of manipulations, because
    there's no way of proving what is right or wrong when
    rationality and facts are not the basis of belief

    Thanks be to God

    There's no such thing, lunatic.

    for the evidence in rationality and facts.

    "Evidence of", moron. And it's of your lunacy, you cretin.

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to puke on Mon Apr 3 17:35:56 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    And now more duke puke:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Bet you a thousand dollars to a donut hole there is.

    You're on, moron. Prove it and win your donut hole.

    I have the evidence. What do you have?

    Your display of empty bravado; in effect, a confession that you can't
    show *anything* in support of your delusory nonsense.

    *****
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  • From &@21:1/5 to Ned Latham on Sun Apr 2 21:38:13 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    On 04/02/2017 06:10 PM, Ned Latham wrote:

    You can always stop answering, Loser.


    surrender noted . i win

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  • From &@21:1/5 to Ned Latham on Sun Apr 2 21:42:55 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    On 04/02/2017 06:13 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
    Amper Sand the Great wrote:
    Ned Latham the Loser wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid religious
    crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as a
    god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Why don't you believe in Jesus, Ned?

    I believe that there was a man named Jeshua bar Joshiph who was
    an Essene swordman (that's the ancient Hebrew equivalent of the
    modern Islamist suicide bomber), who was on a mission to
    assasinate the Chief Priest, and was caught, armed and at night,
    skulking in the grounds of his residence, handed over to the
    Romans, and sentenced to death and executed in the normal manner
    for that crime.

    The "gospels" are Essene propaganda, written to keep the Romans
    ignorant of the organization that was building up for another
    attempt at evicting them, but if you read them carefully, you can
    see the details that reveal the truth. For example, we know that
    they were armed when caught, because "Peter" cut off a guard's
    ear. And we know too, that the leader of the group wasn't Jeshua,
    it was Barabbas; that's evident in his "name" which is in reality
    a title, not a name: it is, in fact, "bar Abba", an Aramaic title
    meaning "son of the father". And from the Dead Sea scrolls we
    know "Kingdom of God" was code for the Theocracy the Essenes
    wanted to establish. Sort of like the ISIL Caliphate.

    So mu opinion is that Jesus the terrorist existed; Jesus the
    Messiah did not.

    And there's no such thing as a god.

    all crap

    Too late, Loser: we already did that.


    obviously youre still not done loser

    All get ready to smile when the Loser puts his hat on.


    when did you buy a hat loser

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  • From &@21:1/5 to felix on Mon Apr 3 15:21:34 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    On 04/02/2017 09:41 PM, felix wrote:
    On Sunday, 2 Apr 2017 11:33 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as
    a god.
    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.
    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.
    however, there is good and evil
    Satan can be considered as a concept to personify the source
    of evil
    You can "personify" the source of good too
    Yep. God.
    As I said, felix, "you can 'personify' the source of good too, and
    what you've got is an opening for the theists to drive their trucks
    through". They're lunatics. You should *never* give them an
    opening.

    and none can answer the question why a loving God allows human
    suffering, and in fact instigated it by creating humans (according
    to the belief) and leaving them to fend for themselves


    obviously you are other atheist ignoramus who says things without
    bothering to check first . im right

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  • From &@21:1/5 to Pelican on Mon Apr 3 15:26:25 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    On 04/02/2017 10:02 PM, Pelican wrote:
    On 3/04/2017 11:33, felix wrote:
    On Sunday, 2 Apr 2017 9:15 PM, Pelican wrote:
    On 2/04/2017 20:53, felix wrote:
    On Sunday, 2 Apr 2017 5:11 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
    Pelican wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Pelican wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some
    stupid religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such
    thing as a god.
    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.
    There's no such thing as as a satan either,
    moron.
    however, there is good and evil
    Yes. Peace is good. Love is good. Truth is good.

    Organised religion is evil, because it demands and
    inculcates mass delusion.

    And the three monotheisms (Judaism, Christianty and
    Islam) are the most evil creeds on the planet,
    because they add institutionalised bigotry to the
    mix.
    Are you suggesting that Marxism has gone past its useby
    date?
    Your point escapes me. Marxism isn't good or evil (though
    its perversions are definitely evil); neither is it
    religion. If you're asking whether people should stop
    believing in it, the answer is yes; If you're asking
    whether it should be discarded, the answer is no.
    Monotheism is the same - neither good or evil.
    As an abstract, it's like polytheism: just plain silly.
    However, I did not speak of monotheism as a general concept;
    I spoke of three specific monotheist cults: Judaism,
    Christiamity, and Islam.

    the Christian God is in three parts, Father, Son, and Holy
    Ghost/Spirit- the Trinity

    The Christian god is the same god as the Jewish god and the
    Islamic god. The trinity is just some nonsense invented by one
    organised religious group of Christians - it is not accepted by
    all Christians,

    it's the belief of all the major christian denominations afaik

    The "major" ones, eh? Religion is a democracy in your view?

    The unfortunate facts is that Jesus didn't ever run that line, and
    neither the Jews or the Moslems swallow that nonsense.

    and exists only to make some sense of one peculiar and idiotic
    view of Jesus Christ. It is a view Jesus apparently didn't hold
    about himself.

    not so sure about that. I think you would find the NT refers to
    Jesus talking about the father and the holy ghost

    Think whatever you like, but the NT was not exactly written
    contemporaneously with the life of Jesus, and what Jesus actually
    said and what he actually meant is subject to whatever a writer chose
    to write. There is some nonsense in there. Well, quite a lot.

    Unless you are one of those nutters who believes in the NT
    literally.


    or unless were one of those nutters who agrees with you

    All three are organised religions, which is to say they
    demand and inculcate the delusions they've developed. And
    that is evil.

    Moreover, their insistence on a one god ideology is
    institutionalised bigotry: a wellspring of fear, suspicion
    and hatred at the very core of their dogma. It is the genesis
    of the genocides that all three are guilty of.

    Those pushing one of its perversions via organised religion
    are another matter.
    Even pure, if it's organised, it's evil.

    Ned



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  • From duke@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 06:43:32 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:10:25 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing
    as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    however, there is good and evil

    Yes.

    And evil (satan) is the opposite of love (God).

    There's no such thing as a god, dimwit.
    Well, not in your world.

    Unlike you, I'm not insane enough to suppose that people inhabit
    their own worlds.

    You do, and it's full of God's love.

    There is no such thing as a god. Full stop.

    Release brake. Prepare thyself for God's judgment.

    But you'll cry when you die.

    And with the representative of the so-called "religion of love"
    reveals his true colour.

    You surprise is the result of your own decision, which will turn out to be wrong.

    Organised religion is evil, because it demands and
    inculcates mass delusion.

    Believe me, we freely choose to accept.

    That's to be expected from lunatics.

    I win, you lose if I'm correct. You don't stand a chance.

    I stand exactly the same chance as you, lunatic.

    Well, yes. We will both die and then stand before God in judgment.

    And the three monotheisms (Judaism, Christianty and Islam)
    are the most evil creeds on the planet, because they add
    institutionalised bigotry to the mix.

    Well, there goes your intelligence factor.
    Wrong pronoun, moron.
    So is 3-religion creed, moron.

    There's no such thing, lunatic: I said "creeds".

    I know. That's why you're wrong. Christians have a creed. At least as far as
    I know, the other two don't. Maybe you know something I don't.

    And even if I'd
    said "creed", "wrong pronoun", would have been the wrong criticism.

    You got caught with your pants down around your ankles.

    Get yourself off to those Remedial English classes I keep having
    to recommend to you semiliterate clowns.

    You're digging your hole deeper.

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 06:32:44 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 16:51:54 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    puke wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote
    some stupid religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing
    as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    however, there is good and evil

    Satan can be considered as a concept to personify the
    source of evil

    You can "personify" the source of good too

    Yep. God.

    As I said, felix, "you can 'personify' the source of good too,
    and what you've got is an opening for the theists to drive their
    trucks through". They're lunatics. You should *never* give them
    an opening.

    and none can answer the question why a loving God allows human
    suffering,

    Ask yourself why God let's us die, and you get the same answer
    for suffering.

    As I said, felix, they're lunatics. Can you imagine anyone crazier
    than the kind if nutjob who comforts himself with a sadistic sky
    fairy, a figment of some other nutjob's imagination?

    and in fact instigated it by creating humans (according to
    the belief) and leaving them to fend for themselves

    You sound like a child.

    So says the bedtime-story lunatic.

    Haahaahaa. An atheist that thinks he can fend off death.

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 06:46:52 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:24:23 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    puke wrote:
    felix wroye:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then puke added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing
    as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    however, there is good and evil

    Yes.

    And evil (satan) is the opposite of love (God).

    Organised religion is evil, because it demands and inculcates
    mass delusion.

    Believe me, we freely choose to accept.

    THat's to be expected from lunatics.

    Then you clueless to our creed.

    it's called faith because there is no proof,
    Yet we have massive evidence.

    You need Remedial Mathematics as well as Remedial Ebglish. Come
    back to us when you've understood that "zero" does not equate
    to "massive".

    Ebglish??? Oh, and btw, we have evidence galore. Just because you're blind does not affect us.

    and it exposes you to all sorts of manipulations, because
    there's no way of proving what is right or wrong when
    rationality and facts are not the basis of belief

    Thanks be to God

    There's no such thing, lunatic.

    You're just blind.

    for the evidence in rationality and facts.

    "Evidence of", moron. And it's of your lunacy, you cretin.

    If you opened your eyes, you'd see what we see.

    "[Ritual cannibalism] is the most perfect form of Prayer."

    See, you can't even grasp that we don't have ritual cannibalism.

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 06:49:01 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:30:56 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted wrote:

    ----snip----

    Why don't you believe in Jesus, Ned?

    I believe that there was a man named Jeshua bar Joshiph who was an
    Essene swordman (that's the ancient Hebrew equivalent of the modern
    Islamist suicide bomber), who was on a mission to assassinate the
    Chief Priest, and was caught, armed and at night, skulking in the
    grounds of his residence, handed over to the Romans, and sentenced
    to death and executed in the normal manner for that crime.

    The "gospels" are Essene propaganda, written to keep the Romans
    ignorant of the organization that was building up for another
    attempt at evicting them, but if you read them carefully, you
    can see the details that reveal the truth. For example, we know
    that they were armed when caught, because "Peter" cut off a
    guard's ear. And we know too, that the leader of the group wasn't
    Jeshua, it was Barabbas; that's evident in his "name" which is
    in reality a title, not a name: it is, in fact, "bar Abba", an
    Aramaic title meaning "son of the father". And from the Dead Sea
    scrolls we know "Kingdom of God" was code for the Theocracy the
    Essenes wanted to establish. Sort of like the ISIL Caliphate.

    So my opinion is that Jesus the terrorist existed; Jesus the
    Messiah did not.

    And there's no such thing as a god.

    Yep, you live in oz for sure.

    And you in La-la-land.

    And not only that, but I'm on the right side.

    That's one of the evidences of your bigotry, you lunatic.

    What bigotry?? You're the blind one.

    That nasty "them and us" mentality you share with Jews and Muslims.
    There are no sides; only people, whom *your* bigotry has condemned
    to lives of misery and want.

    We're talking about God. You probably worship your left big toe. You're the one seeking spiritual suicide.

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 06:50:01 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:35:56 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    And now more duke puke:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Bet you a thousand dollars to a donut hole there is.

    You're on, moron. Prove it and win your donut hole.

    I have the evidence. What do you have?

    Your display of empty bravado; in effect, a confession that you can't
    show *anything* in support of your delusory nonsense.

    Where's your evidence that I'm engaging in delusory nonsense? You're just praying to your god that you're right. Guess what - you aren't.

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to ampersand.the.great@gmail.com on Tue Apr 4 06:50:51 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:42:55 -0400, & <ampersand.the.great@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 04/02/2017 06:13 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
    Amper Sand the Great wrote:
    Ned Latham the Loser wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid religious
    crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as a
    god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Why don't you believe in Jesus, Ned?

    I believe that there was a man named Jeshua bar Joshiph who was
    an Essene swordman (that's the ancient Hebrew equivalent of the
    modern Islamist suicide bomber), who was on a mission to
    assasinate the Chief Priest, and was caught, armed and at night,
    skulking in the grounds of his residence, handed over to the
    Romans, and sentenced to death and executed in the normal manner
    for that crime.

    The "gospels" are Essene propaganda, written to keep the Romans
    ignorant of the organization that was building up for another
    attempt at evicting them, but if you read them carefully, you can
    see the details that reveal the truth. For example, we know that
    they were armed when caught, because "Peter" cut off a guard's
    ear. And we know too, that the leader of the group wasn't Jeshua,
    it was Barabbas; that's evident in his "name" which is in reality
    a title, not a name: it is, in fact, "bar Abba", an Aramaic title
    meaning "son of the father". And from the Dead Sea scrolls we
    know "Kingdom of God" was code for the Theocracy the Essenes
    wanted to establish. Sort of like the ISIL Caliphate.

    So mu opinion is that Jesus the terrorist existed; Jesus the
    Messiah did not.

    And there's no such thing as a god.

    all crap

    Too late, Loser: we already did that.


    obviously youre still not done loser

    All get ready to smile when the Loser puts his hat on.


    when did you buy a hat loser

    This nl dude is nuts.

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to puke on Tue Apr 4 16:05:52 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    puke wrote:
    Amper Sande the Loser wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:

    ----snip----

    So mu opinion is that Jesus the terrorist existed; Jesus the
    Messiah did not.

    And there's no such thing as a god.

    all crap

    Too late, Loser: we already did that.

    obviously youre still not done loser

    All get ready to smile when the Loser puts his hat on.

    when did you buy a hat loser

    This nl dude is nuts.

    Nah. It's just that you two fuckwits are too stupid to work out
    the meaning of what I saiud.

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to puke on Tue Apr 4 16:11:59 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    And now more duke puke:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Bet you a thousand dollars to a donut hole there is.

    You're on, moron. Prove it and win your donut hole.

    I have the evidence. What do you have?

    Your display of empty bravado; in effect, a confession that you can't
    show *anything* in support of your delusory nonsense.

    Where's your evidence that I'm engaging in delusory nonsense?

    Between your ears.

    You're just praying to your god that you're right.

    There's no such thing as a god.

    Guess what - you aren't.

    Of course I'm not praying. That'd be as insane as you are.

    *****
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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to puke on Tue Apr 4 16:17:16 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote
    some stupid religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing
    as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    however, there is good and evil

    Satan can be considered as a concept to personify the
    source of evil

    You can "personify" the source of good too

    Yep. God.

    As I said, felix, "you can 'personify' the source of good too,
    and what you've got is an opening for the theists to drive their trucks through". They're lunatics. You should *never* give them
    an opening.

    and none can answer the question why a loving God allows human suffering,

    Ask yourself why God let's us die, and you get the same answer
    for suffering.

    As I said, felix, they're lunatics. Can you imagine anyone crazier
    than the kind if nutjob who comforts himself with a sadistic sky
    fairy, a figment of some other nutjob's imagination?

    and in fact instigated it by creating humans (according to
    the belief) and leaving them to fend for themselves

    You sound like a child.

    So says the bedtime-story lunatic.

    Haahaahaa. An atheist that thinks he can fend off death.

    Says the lunatic who thinks a sky fairy's gonna save him from it.

    Larf.

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to duke on Tue Apr 4 16:36:56 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    duke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:

    ----snip----

    There's no such thing as a god, dimwit.

    Well, not in your world.

    Unlike you, I'm not insane enough to suppose that people
    inhabit their own worlds.

    You do,

    We a;; inhabit just the one. lunatuc.

    and it's full of God's love.

    There's no such thing as a god.

    Prepare thyself for God's judgment.

    And the kunatic contradicts himseld tey again. Quelle surprise.

    But you'll cry when you die.

    And with the representative of the so-called "religion of love"
    reveals his true colour.

    You surprise is the result of your own decision,

    What surprise? I've known for decades that you lunatics are
    lying hypocrites full of murderous hate.

    which will turn out to be wrong.

    Not this one, lunatic.

    Organised religion is evil, because it demands and
    inculcates mass delusion.

    Believe me, we freely choose to accept.

    That's to be expected from lunatics.

    I win, you lose if I'm correct. You don't stand a chance.

    I stand exactly the same chance as you, lunatic.

    Well, yes. We will both die and then stand before God in judgment.

    There's no such thing as a god, lunatic.

    And the three monotheisms (Judaism, Christianty and Islam)
    are the most evil creeds on the planet, because they add institutionalised bigotry to the mix.

    Well, there goes your intelligence factor.
    Wrong pronoun, moron.
    So is 3-religion creed, moron.

    There's no such thing, lunatic: I said "creeds".

    I know. That's why you're wrong.

    You wish.

    Christians have a creed.

    One of the three evillest creeds on the planet.

    At least as far as I know, the other two don't.

    There's your bigotry showing itself, lunatic.

    Maybe you know something I don't.

    Yair. How to think rationally.

    And even if I'd said "creed", "wrong pronoun",
    would have been the wrong criticism.

    You got caught with your pants down around your ankles.

    Taking them off to fuck some lunatic Christian's wife.

    Get yourself off to those Remedial English classes I keep having
    to recommend to you semiliterate clowns.

    You're digging your hole deeper.

    Van't get any deeper than this, lunatic: there's no sucj thing as a gid.

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to puke on Tue Apr 4 16:48:56 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    felix wroye:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then puke added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing
    as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    however, there is good and evil

    Yes.

    And evil (satan) is the opposite of love (God).

    Organised religion is evil, because it demands and inculcates
    mass delusion.

    Believe me, we freely choose to accept.

    THat's to be expected from lunatics.

    Then you clueless to our creed.

    No. I despise it.

    it's called faith because there is no proof,
    Yet we have massive evidence.

    You need Remedial Mathematics as well as Remedial Ebglish. Come
    back to us when you've understood that "zero" does not equate
    to "massive".

    Ebglish??? Oh, and btw, we have evidence galore.

    Yes, English. It's a communications protocal developed for the
    exchange of information between juman beings.

    Just because you're blind does not affect us.

    Now that's unfair. Your lunacy's been affecting sane people for
    millennia.

    and it exposes you to all sorts of manipulations, because
    there's no way of proving what is right or wrong when
    rationality and facts are not the basis of belief

    Thanks be to God

    There's no such thing, lunatic.

    You're just blind.

    No. You're deluded. You're a lunatic.

    for the evidence in rationality and facts.

    "Evidence of", moron. And it's of your lunacy, you cretin.

    If you opened your eyes, you'd see what we see.

    I do see it. lunaric. What I don't do is interpret it through
    an insanity filter such as you use.

    "[Ritual cannibalism] is the most perfect form of Prayer."

    See, you can't even grasp that we don't have ritual cannibalism.

    You pretend to frink the blood and eat the body of a man who
    doubles as your sky fairy. That's ritual cannibalism.

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to puke on Tue Apr 4 16:52:15 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted wrote:

    ----snip----

    Why don't you believe in Jesus, Ned?

    I believe that there was a man named Jeshua bar Joshiph who was
    an
    Essene swordman (that's the ancient Hebrew equivalent of the
    modern
    Islamist suicide bomber), who was on a mission to assassinate
    the
    Chief Priest, and was caught, armed and at night, skulking in
    the
    grounds of his residence, handed over to the Romans, and
    sentenced
    to death and executed in the normal manner for that crime.

    The "gospels" are Essene propaganda, written to keep the Romans ignorant of the organization that was building up for another
    attempt at evicting them, but if you read them carefully, you
    can see the details that reveal the truth. For example, we know
    that they were armed when caught, because "Peter" cut off a
    guard's ear. And we know too, that the leader of the group
    wasn't
    Jeshua, it was Barabbas; that's evident in his "name" which is
    in reality a title, not a name: it is, in fact, "bar Abba", an
    Aramaic title meaning "son of the father". And from the Dead Sea scrolls we know "Kingdom of God" was code for the Theocracy the
    Essenes wanted to establish. Sort of like the ISIL Caliphate.

    So my opinion is that Jesus the terrorist existed; Jesus the
    Messiah did not.

    And there's no such thing as a god.

    Yep, you live in oz for sure.

    And you in La-la-land.

    And not only that, but I'm on the right side.

    That's one of the evidences of your bigotry, you lunatic. That
    nasty "them and us" mentality you share with Jews and Muslims.
    There are no sides; only people, whom *your* bigotry has condemned
    to lives of misery and want.

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to puke on Tue Apr 4 20:00:33 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    felix wroye:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then puke added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing
    as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    however, there is good and evil

    Yes.

    And evil (satan) is the opposite of love (God).

    Organised religion is evil, because it demands and inculcates
    mass delusion.

    Believe me, we freely choose to accept.

    THat's to be expected from lunatics.

    Then you clueless to our creed.

    No. I despise it.

    it's called faith because there is no proof,
    Yet we have massive evidence.

    You need Remedial Mathematics as well as Remedial Ebglish. Come
    back to us when you've understood that "zero" does not equate
    to "massive".

    Ebglish??? Oh, and btw, we have evidence galore.

    Yes, English. It's a communications protocal developed for the
    exchange of information between human beings.

    Just because you're blind does not affect us.

    Now that's unfair. Your lunacy's been affecting sane people for
    millennia.

    and it exposes you to all sorts of manipulations, because
    there's no way of proving what is right or wrong when
    rationality and facts are not the basis of belief

    Thanks be to God

    There's no such thing, lunatic.

    You're just blind.

    No. You're deluded. You're a lunatic.

    for the evidence in rationality and facts.

    "Evidence of", moron. And it's of your lunacy, you cretin.

    If you opened your eyes, you'd see what we see.

    I do see it. lunaric. What I don't do is interpret it through
    an insanity filter such as you use.

    "[Ritual cannibalism] is the most perfect form of Prayer."

    See, you can't even grasp that we don't have ritual cannibalism.

    You pretend to drink the blood and eat the body of a man who
    doubles as your sky fairy. That's ritual cannibalism.

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to duke on Tue Apr 4 19:57:54 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    duke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:

    ----snip----

    There's no such thing as a god, dimwit.

    Well, not in your world.

    Unlike you, I'm not insane enough to suppose that people
    inhabit their own worlds.

    You do,

    We all inhabit just the one. lunatic.

    and it's full of God's love.

    There's no such thing as a god.

    Prepare thyself for God's judgment.

    And the lunatic contradicts himself yet again. Quelle surprise.

    But you'll cry when you die.

    And with the representative of the so-called "religion of love"
    reveals his true colour.

    You surprise is the result of your own decision,

    What surprise? I've known for decades that you lunatics are
    lying hypocrites full of murderous hate.

    which will turn out to be wrong.

    Not this one, lunatic.

    Organised religion is evil, because it demands and
    inculcates mass delusion.

    Believe me, we freely choose to accept.

    That's to be expected from lunatics.

    I win, you lose if I'm correct. You don't stand a chance.

    I stand exactly the same chance as you, lunatic.

    Well, yes. We will both die and then stand before God in judgment.

    There's no such thing as a god, lunatic.

    And the three monotheisms (Judaism, Christianty and Islam)
    are the most evil creeds on the planet, because they add institutionalised bigotry to the mix.

    Well, there goes your intelligence factor.
    Wrong pronoun, moron.
    So is 3-religion creed, moron.

    There's no such thing, lunatic: I said "creeds".

    I know. That's why you're wrong.

    You wish.

    Christians have a creed.

    One of the three evillest creeds on the planet.

    At least as far as I know, the other two don't.

    There's your bigotry showing itself, lunatic.

    Maybe you know something I don't.

    Yair. How to think rationally.

    And even if I'd said "creed", "wrong pronoun",
    would have been the wrong criticism.

    You got caught with your pants down around your ankles.

    Taking them off to fuck some lunatic Christian's wife.

    Get yourself off to those Remedial English classes I keep having
    to recommend to you semiliterate clowns.

    You're digging your hole deeper.

    Can't get any deeper than this, lunatic: there's no such thing as a gid.

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 5 06:21:53 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 16:36:56 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    duke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:

    ----snip----

    There's no such thing as a god, dimwit.

    Well, not in your world.

    Unlike you, I'm not insane enough to suppose that people
    inhabit their own worlds.

    You do,

    We a;; inhabit just the one. lunatuc.

    and it's full of God's love.

    There's no such thing as a god.

    True, but there is definitely God almighty.

    Prepare thyself for God's judgment.

    And the kunatic contradicts himseld tey again. Quelle surprise.

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 5 06:20:10 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 16:17:16 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote
    some stupid religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing
    as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    however, there is good and evil

    Satan can be considered as a concept to personify the
    source of evil

    You can "personify" the source of good too

    Yep. God.

    As I said, felix, "you can 'personify' the source of good too,
    and what you've got is an opening for the theists to drive their
    trucks through". They're lunatics. You should *never* give them
    an opening.

    and none can answer the question why a loving God allows human
    suffering,

    Ask yourself why God let's us die, and you get the same answer
    for suffering.

    As I said, felix, they're lunatics. Can you imagine anyone crazier
    than the kind if nutjob who comforts himself with a sadistic sky
    fairy, a figment of some other nutjob's imagination?

    and in fact instigated it by creating humans (according to
    the belief) and leaving them to fend for themselves

    You sound like a child.

    So says the bedtime-story lunatic.

    Haahaahaa. An atheist that thinks he can fend off death.

    Says the lunatic who thinks a sky fairy's gonna save him from it.

    Nope, the sky fairy is your dream child.

    Larf.


    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 5 06:22:20 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 16:48:56 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    felix wroye:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then puke added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing
    as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    however, there is good and evil

    Yes.

    And evil (satan) is the opposite of love (God).

    Organised religion is evil, because it demands and inculcates
    mass delusion.

    Believe me, we freely choose to accept.

    THat's to be expected from lunatics.

    Then you clueless to our creed.

    No. I despise it.

    Then you don't know what it says.

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 5 06:23:27 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 16:52:15 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted wrote:

    ----snip----

    Why don't you believe in Jesus, Ned?

    I believe that there was a man named Jeshua bar Joshiph who was
    an
    Essene swordman (that's the ancient Hebrew equivalent of the
    modern
    Islamist suicide bomber), who was on a mission to assassinate
    the
    Chief Priest, and was caught, armed and at night, skulking in
    the
    grounds of his residence, handed over to the Romans, and
    sentenced
    to death and executed in the normal manner for that crime.

    The "gospels" are Essene propaganda, written to keep the Romans
    ignorant of the organization that was building up for another
    attempt at evicting them, but if you read them carefully, you
    can see the details that reveal the truth. For example, we know
    that they were armed when caught, because "Peter" cut off a
    guard's ear. And we know too, that the leader of the group
    wasn't
    Jeshua, it was Barabbas; that's evident in his "name" which is
    in reality a title, not a name: it is, in fact, "bar Abba", an
    Aramaic title meaning "son of the father". And from the Dead Sea
    scrolls we know "Kingdom of God" was code for the Theocracy the
    Essenes wanted to establish. Sort of like the ISIL Caliphate.

    So my opinion is that Jesus the terrorist existed; Jesus the
    Messiah did not.

    And there's no such thing as a god.

    Yep, you live in oz for sure.

    And you in La-la-land.

    And not only that, but I'm on the right side.

    That's one of the evidences of your bigotry, you lunatic. That
    nasty "them and us" mentality you share with Jews and Muslims.
    There are no sides; only people, whom *your* bigotry has condemned
    to lives of misery and want.

    Well, you definitely want to be excluded, and you're doing a fine job of guaranteeing it.

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From duke@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 5 06:24:02 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 16:05:52 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    puke wrote:
    Amper Sande the Loser wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:

    ----snip----

    So mu opinion is that Jesus the terrorist existed; Jesus the
    Messiah did not.

    And there's no such thing as a god.

    all crap

    Too late, Loser: we already did that.

    obviously youre still not done loser

    All get ready to smile when the Loser puts his hat on.

    when did you buy a hat loser

    This nl dude is nuts.

    Nah. It's just that you two fuckwits are too stupid to work out
    the meaning of what I saiud.

    What's a "saiud"?

    the dukester, American-American

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  • From Ted@21:1/5 to duke on Thu Apr 6 06:02:58 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 16:11:59 GMT, Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    And now more duke puke:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Bet you a thousand dollars to a donut hole there is.

    You're on, moron. Prove it and win your donut hole.

    I have the evidence. What do you have?

    Your display of empty bravado; in effect, a confession that you can't
    show *anything* in support of your delusory nonsense.

    Where's your evidence that I'm engaging in delusory nonsense?

    Between your ears.
    There's no such thing as a god.
    Of course I'm not praying. That'd be as insane as you are.

    Come on, little kid. Try growing up.

    He is grown up. He no longer believes in childish fairy tales.

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  • From &@21:1/5 to Ned Latham on Mon Apr 3 17:45:46 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    On 04/03/2017 03:46 AM, Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Pelican wrote:

    ----snip----

    Think whatever you like, but the NT was not exactly written
    contemporaneously with the life of Jesus, and what Jesus actually
    said and what he actually meant is subject to whatever a writer
    chose to write.

    Well, no: the *recoird* of what he said and meant.

    yes, and so you cannot assert what view(s) Jesus held or not.

    Actually, we can. The gospels actually make sense if you accept them
    as Essene propaganda, aimed at distracting the Romans from the
    reality behind the events recorded so as to hide the fact of the
    impending revolution. (Historians call it the First Jewish War. It
    ended at Masada, in 73 CE.)


    your words make sense when we accept them as crap

    As an Essene, Jeshua bar Joshiph believed that the Roman Empire was idolatrous: an evil thing that must be extirpated from Creation, and
    that the Jews should live under the "Kingdom of God", which was to be
    a theocracy ruled by the Laws of Deuteronomy.


    which has nothing to do with nothing except you are preening idiot

    Sort of an ancient Jewish equivalent of modern Islam's Caliphate and
    Sharia Law. (And the Essenes were like ISIL ... Brrr!)


    get back to us when you slimy liberals have avenged u . s . atrocities committed in recent iraq war otherwise you are on same side so just shut
    up asshole compromise is whats responsible for all of evils not dogma .
    i win

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  • From &@21:1/5 to Pelican on Mon Apr 3 17:45:02 2017
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    XPost: soc.men

    On 04/02/2017 11:30 PM, Pelican wrote:
    On 3/04/2017 13:24, felix wrote:
    On Monday, 3 Apr 2017 1:10 PM, Pelican wrote:
    On 3/04/2017 12:35, felix wrote:
    On Monday, 3 Apr 2017 12:02 PM, Pelican wrote:
    On 3/04/2017 11:33, felix wrote:
    On Sunday, 2 Apr 2017 9:15 PM, Pelican wrote:
    On 2/04/2017 20:53, felix wrote:
    On Sunday, 2 Apr 2017 5:11 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
    Pelican wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Pelican wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    felix wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote
    some stupid religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no
    such thing as a god.
    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to
    visit you shortly.
    There's no such thing as as a satan
    either, moron.
    however, there is good and evil
    Yes. Peace is good. Love is good. Truth is
    good.

    Organised religion is evil, because it
    demands and inculcates mass delusion.

    And the three monotheisms (Judaism,
    Christianty and Islam) are the most evil
    creeds on the planet, because they add
    institutionalised bigotry to the mix.
    Are you suggesting that Marxism has gone past
    its useby date?
    Your point escapes me. Marxism isn't good or evil
    (though its perversions are definitely evil);
    neither is it religion. If you're asking whether
    people should stop believing in it, the answer is
    yes; If you're asking whether it should be
    discarded, the answer is no.
    Monotheism is the same - neither good or evil.
    As an abstract, it's like polytheism: just plain
    silly. However, I did not speak of monotheism as a
    general concept; I spoke of three specific monotheist
    cults: Judaism, Christiamity, and Islam.

    the Christian God is in three parts, Father, Son, and
    Holy Ghost/Spirit- the Trinity

    The Christian god is the same god as the Jewish god and
    the Islamic god. The trinity is just some nonsense
    invented by one organised religious group of Christians -
    it is not accepted by all Christians,

    it's the belief of all the major christian denominations
    afaik

    The "major" ones, eh?

    yes. Catholics, Protestants, etc.,

    Religion is a democracy in your view?

    The unfortunate facts is that Jesus didn't ever run that
    line,

    so you say

    and neither the Jews or the Moslems swallow that nonsense.


    irrelevant

    and exists only to make some sense of one peculiar and
    idiotic view of Jesus Christ. It is a view Jesus
    apparently didn't hold about himself.

    not so sure about that. I think you would find the NT
    refers to Jesus talking about the father and the holy
    ghost

    Think whatever you like, but the NT was not exactly written
    contemporaneously with the life of Jesus, and what Jesus
    actually said and what he actually meant is subject to
    whatever a writer chose to write.

    yes, and so you cannot assert what view(s) Jesus held or not.

    Of course I can. If you accept that Jesus existed, and that he
    was an ordinary man, it's quite easy to dismiss the metaphysical
    nonsense but agree with his ethical position.

    but you have no reference for his 'ethical position', or any
    position. you say on the one hand that you can't rely on what the
    NT says, but then rely on it to support what you claim to be fact

    Don't be silly. Once you exclude the stuff which is not credible,
    which is the same stuff that would be excluded from serious
    discussion if it was reported as happening today, you are left with
    his ethical position. You can do as you please with it in the same
    way as you choose to deal with the reported ethical position of any
    other historical figure.


    thats why i exclude your crap

    See the next sentence.

    That's the way people have progressed over the centuries in the
    real world - get rid of the bull-shit and the merchants of
    bull-shit, and move on.

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  • From &@21:1/5 to Ned Latham on Sun Apr 9 14:42:19 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    On 04/04/2017 12:05 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Amper Sande the Loser wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:

    ----snip----

    So mu opinion is that Jesus the terrorist existed; Jesus
    the Messiah did not.

    And there's no such thing as a god.

    all crap

    Too late, Loser: we already did that.

    obviously youre still not done loser

    All get ready to smile when the Loser puts his hat on.

    when did you buy a hat loser

    This nl dude is nuts.

    Nah. It's just that you two fuckwits are too stupid to work out the
    meaning of what I saiud.


    lol ned loser wrote saiud he is talking about a salad or something
    else stupid ned is moron . i win

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    Pope Paul VI *****

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  • From &@21:1/5 to duke on Sun Apr 9 14:37:47 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    On 04/04/2017 07:50 AM, duke wrote:
    On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:42:55 -0400, & <ampersand.the.great@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 04/02/2017 06:13 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
    Amper Sand the Great wrote:
    Ned Latham the Loser wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as
    a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Why don't you believe in Jesus, Ned?

    I believe that there was a man named Jeshua bar Joshiph who
    was an Essene swordman (that's the ancient Hebrew equivalent
    of the modern Islamist suicide bomber), who was on a mission
    to assasinate the Chief Priest, and was caught, armed and at
    night, skulking in the grounds of his residence, handed over
    to the Romans, and sentenced to death and executed in the
    normal manner for that crime.

    The "gospels" are Essene propaganda, written to keep the
    Romans ignorant of the organization that was building up for
    another attempt at evicting them, but if you read them
    carefully, you can see the details that reveal the truth. For
    example, we know that they were armed when caught, because
    "Peter" cut off a guard's ear. And we know too, that the
    leader of the group wasn't Jeshua, it was Barabbas; that's
    evident in his "name" which is in reality a title, not a
    name: it is, in fact, "bar Abba", an Aramaic title meaning
    "son of the father". And from the Dead Sea scrolls we know
    "Kingdom of God" was code for the Theocracy the Essenes
    wanted to establish. Sort of like the ISIL Caliphate.

    So mu opinion is that Jesus the terrorist existed; Jesus the
    Messiah did not.

    And there's no such thing as a god.

    all crap

    Too late, Loser: we already did that.


    obviously youre still not done loser

    All get ready to smile when the Loser puts his hat on.


    when did you buy a hat loser

    This nl dude is nuts.


    you are right hes probably a faggot

    the dukester, American-American

    ***** "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer." Pope Paul VI
    *****


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  • From &@21:1/5 to Ted on Sun Apr 9 15:27:53 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    On 04/06/2017 02:02 AM, Ted wrote:
    duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
    On Tue, 04 Apr 2017 16:11:59 GMT, Ned Latham
    <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> wrote:

    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    And now more duke puke:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing
    as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Bet you a thousand dollars to a donut hole there is.

    You're on, moron. Prove it and win your donut hole.

    I have the evidence. What do you have?

    Your display of empty bravado; in effect, a confession that
    you can't show *anything* in support of your delusory
    nonsense.

    Where's your evidence that I'm engaging in delusory nonsense?

    Between your ears. There's no such thing as a god. Of course I'm
    not praying. That'd be as insane as you are.

    Come on, little kid. Try growing up.

    He is grown up. He no longer believes in childish fairy tales.


    no hes an atheist . i win

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  • From Ned Latham@21:1/5 to Amper Sand the Loser on Mon Apr 10 04:51:12 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, aus.politics
    XPost: soc.men

    Amper Sand the Loser wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    puke wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    And now more duke puke:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing
    as a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Bet you a thousand dollars to a donut hole there is.

    You're on, moron. Prove it and win your donut hole.

    I have the evidence. What do you have?

    Your display of empty bravado; in effect, a confession that
    you can't show *anything* in support of your delusory
    nonsense.

    Where's your evidence that I'm engaging in delusory nonsense?

    Between your ears. There's no such thing as a god. Of course I'm
    not praying. That'd be as insane as you are.

    Come on, little kid. Try growing up.

    He is grown up. He no longer believes in childish fairy tales.

    no hes an atheist . i win

    You misspelt "lose", loser.

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  • From Tonto Kowalski@21:1/5 to ampersand.the.great@gmail.com on Tue Apr 11 00:12:30 2017
    XPost: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.atheism
    XPost: soc.men

    In article <ocee6u$c9o$3@dont-email.me>
    & <ampersand.the.great@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 04/04/2017 07:50 AM, duke wrote:
    On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:42:55 -0400, & <ampersand.the.great@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 04/02/2017 06:13 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
    Amper Sand the Great wrote:
    Ned Latham the Loser wrote:
    Ted wrote:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Then "duke" added his idiocy:
    Ned Latham wrote:
    Ted and vojavoja and Patrick wrote some stupid
    religious crap:

    Don't be ridiculous, boys: there's no such thing as
    a god.

    Mr. satan, sir: Mr. Ned is coming to visit you
    shortly.

    There's no such thing as as a satan either, moron.

    Why don't you believe in Jesus, Ned?

    I believe that there was a man named Jeshua bar Joshiph who
    was an Essene swordman (that's the ancient Hebrew equivalent
    of the modern Islamist suicide bomber), who was on a mission
    to assasinate the Chief Priest, and was caught, armed and at
    night, skulking in the grounds of his residence, handed over
    to the Romans, and sentenced to death and executed in the
    normal manner for that crime.

    The "gospels" are Essene propaganda, written to keep the
    Romans ignorant of the organization that was building up for
    another attempt at evicting them, but if you read them
    carefully, you can see the details that reveal the truth. For
    example, we know that they were armed when caught, because
    "Peter" cut off a guard's ear. And we know too, that the
    leader of the group wasn't Jeshua, it was Barabbas; that's
    evident in his "name" which is in reality a title, not a
    name: it is, in fact, "bar Abba", an Aramaic title meaning
    "son of the father". And from the Dead Sea scrolls we know
    "Kingdom of God" was code for the Theocracy the Essenes
    wanted to establish. Sort of like the ISIL Caliphate.

    So mu opinion is that Jesus the terrorist existed; Jesus the
    Messiah did not.

    And there's no such thing as a god.

    all crap

    Too late, Loser: we already did that.


    obviously youre still not done loser

    All get ready to smile when the Loser puts his hat on.


    when did you buy a hat loser

    This nl dude is nuts.


    you are right hes probably a faggot

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