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    From carson22@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Mark Garvin on Wed Dec 9 11:13:44 2015
    On Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Mark Garvin wrote:
    In <jBxQ7IANvMP2Ew9D@g3msw.demon.co.uk> Ken Ashcroft <g3msw@g3msw.demon.co.uk> writes:
    Actally, I have had personal Composer for many years, I started, I
    think, in 89 with the DOS version. I built up a library of real time >comppositions, although I found the notation a little difficult to play >back. It was sad that we lost the dos version author.

    Hi Ken,

    Just noticed your post, a bit late, as I just stopped in for another
    reason.

    Indeed it is sad. Jim Miller (author of Personal Composer) was a dear
    friend of mine. We met during 1983 NAMM when we both showed prototype
    MIDI sequencers (I admit that he kicked my butt <g>). We made plans
    to work on a project together (notation software) before he fell ill.

    Jim was one of the nicest, most caring people I have ever met. A very forward-thinking musician (who else has designed LISP interfaces for
    their notation programs?)


    I think Sibelius is a move forward, although I still have the windows >version of Personal Composer and it can do a good job.
    I do seem to have collected a number of *.sng files, which I thoought
    came from Persoanl Composer but the win version does not want to know
    them. Any ideas?

    The newer Windows-based program was written by a completely different software team. As far as I know, little of the original code remains.
    There was a rumor of a converter program to port .SNG files into some
    other format (originated in the DOS-PC days). I have never seen it,
    and I doubt it would generate anything compatible with the current PC.
    I know one of the other engineers from the latter-day Personal Composer project who may know. I will ask, but don't get your hopes up.

    Your best shot is to check with the current PC software team. In case
    you don't have it, their email is:

    http://www.pcomposer.com/

    MGarvin
    NYC

    Hi Mark, I have many important scores created with Personal Composer DOS version. I am desperate to access them and convert for use with FINALE or SIBELIUS. Do you know any way to do this? The people at the current PC were note helpful and in fact
    they were downright rude. Thanks, Carsn

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  • From carson22@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Ken Ashcroft on Wed Dec 9 10:54:36 2015
    On Sunday, November 1, 1998 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Ken Ashcroft wrote:
    In article <363c7048.1480887@lisa.rz.hu-berlin.de>, Dave Baird <davbaird@tfs.net> writes
    Actally, I have had personal Composer for many years, I started, I
    think, in 89 with the DOS version. I built up a library of real time comppositions, although I found the notation a little difficult to play
    back. It was sad that we lost the dos version author.
    I think Sibelius is a move forward, although I still have the windows
    version of Personal Composer and it can do a good job.
    I do seem to have collected a number of *.sng files, which I thoought
    came from Persoanl Composer but the win version does not want to know
    them. Any ideas?
    I take it, that none of you folks can respond on the differances
    between Personal Composer and Sibelius?? EJ

    I think your asking for a user of both programs who's had time to
    evaluate Sebelius for Windows.

    --
    Ken Ashcroft

    Any idea how to convert original Personal Composer DOS files to use with Finale or Sibelius? Most have the extension = .scr

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  • From carson22@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Mark Garvin on Wed Dec 9 10:57:05 2015
    On Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Mark Garvin wrote:
    In <jBxQ7IANvMP2Ew9D@g3msw.demon.co.uk> Ken Ashcroft <g3msw@g3msw.demon.co.uk> writes:
    Actally, I have had personal Composer for many years, I started, I
    think, in 89 with the DOS version. I built up a library of real time >comppositions, although I found the notation a little difficult to play >back. It was sad that we lost the dos version author.

    Hi Ken,

    Just noticed your post, a bit late, as I just stopped in for another
    reason.

    Indeed it is sad. Jim Miller (author of Personal Composer) was a dear
    friend of mine. We met during 1983 NAMM when we both showed prototype
    MIDI sequencers (I admit that he kicked my butt <g>). We made plans
    to work on a project together (notation software) before he fell ill.

    Jim was one of the nicest, most caring people I have ever met. A very forward-thinking musician (who else has designed LISP interfaces for
    their notation programs?)


    I think Sibelius is a move forward, although I still have the windows >version of Personal Composer and it can do a good job.
    I do seem to have collected a number of *.sng files, which I thoought
    came from Persoanl Composer but the win version does not want to know
    them. Any ideas?

    The newer Windows-based program was written by a completely different software team. As far as I know, little of the original code remains.
    There was a rumor of a converter program to port .SNG files into some
    other format (originated in the DOS-PC days). I have never seen it,
    and I doubt it would generate anything compatible with the current PC.
    I know one of the other engineers from the latter-day Personal Composer project who may know. I will ask, but don't get your hopes up.

    Your best shot is to check with the current PC software team. In case
    you don't have it, their email is:

    http://www.pcomposer.com/

    MGarvin
    NYC

    Any idea how to convert original Personal Composer DOS files to use with Finale or Sibelius? Most have the extension = .scr

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  • From chrisnova777@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 12 03:59:35 2016
    im also looking for the DOS version of Personal Composer.. can anyone help?

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  • From normansjames@gmail.com@21:1/5 to chrisn...@gmail.com on Wed Jul 5 16:30:47 2017
    On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 5:59:37 AM UTC-6, chrisn...@gmail.com wrote:
    im also looking for the DOS version of Personal Composer.. can anyone help?

    What am I bid for a copy of PC-DOS V.3.3?

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  • From headmail@zen.co.uk@21:1/5 to Jim O'Briant on Wed Dec 5 01:12:37 2018
    Does anybody know whether Personal Composer (I have version 1.9 40 Stave) Works on Windows 10?? I am really afraid of losing the programme because all my compositions are in .pc files. Alternatively, or additionally, is there another notation programme (
    W10 compliant) that will open .pc files and allow full transition including lyrics, dynamics, etc??

    This is all because of the Windows 10 debacle and the reactions of so many people. I have resisted upgrading until now but it is becoming increasingly difficult to hold out.

    Mark Head


    On Saturday, 31 October 1998 08:00:00 UTC, Jim O'Briant wrote:
    Earl Macey wrote:

    I take it, that none of you folks can respond on the differances
    between Personal Composer and Sibelius?? EJ

    Sibelius for any platform other than Acorn is so new (on sale for less
    than a month) that we are all just feeling our way around the program.
    We can't share years of experience with a product that we have used for
    less than 30 days -- that that many of us have not yet purchased at all.

    As for personal composer -- I think I've heard the name mentioned, but
    I've never used it.

    If you want information about Sibelius, you might go to their website
    and order their free demo CD-Rom.

    Jim O'Briant
    Bayside Music Press
    Gilroy, CA

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  • From kylebredesky@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Jim O'Briant on Sat May 18 17:27:54 2019
    On Saturday, October 31, 1998 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Jim O'Briant wrote:
    Earl Macey wrote:

    I take it, that none of you folks can respond on the differances
    between Personal Composer and Sibelius?? EJ

    Sibelius for any platform other than Acorn is so new (on sale for less
    than a month) that we are all just feeling our way around the program.
    We can't share years of experience with a product that we have used for
    less than 30 days -- that that many of us have not yet purchased at all.

    As for personal composer -- I think I've heard the name mentioned, but
    I've never used it.

    If you want information about Sibelius, you might go to their website
    and order their free demo CD-Rom.

    Jim O'Briant
    Bayside Music Press
    Gilroy, CA

    https://defordmusic.com/transposing-using-personal-composer/

    If you download the DEMO file from this site, it will load on Win10! Run it in compatibility mode for Win8.
    Hope that helps!

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  • From bill sanderson@21:1/5 to kylebr...@gmail.com on Thu Jul 21 00:09:46 2022
    On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 1:27:55 AM UTC+1, kylebr...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, October 31, 1998 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Jim O'Briant wrote:
    Earl Macey wrote:

    I take it, that none of you folks can respond on the differances
    between Personal Composer and Sibelius?? EJ

    Sibelius for any platform other than Acorn is so new (on sale for less than a month) that we are all just feeling our way around the program.
    We can't share years of experience with a product that we have used for less than 30 days -- that that many of us have not yet purchased at all.

    As for personal composer -- I think I've heard the name mentioned, but I've never used it.

    If you want information about Sibelius, you might go to their website
    and order their free demo CD-Rom.

    Jim O'Briant
    Bayside Music Press
    Gilroy, CA
    https://defordmusic.com/transposing-using-personal-composer/

    If you download the DEMO file from this site, it will load on Win10! Run it in compatibility mode for Win8.
    Hope that helps!

    I have just got a new notebook with Windows 11. I have the CD for Personal Composer 2 (44 stave) and will try to install it, although as we all know the help functions do not work with later version of Windows.

    Like many of you, I have got used to Personal Composer and am reluctant to move from it as my primary notation tol, though I also have Finale which helps me with ochestral sounds via Garritan. Maybe I will eventually get my head round direct input from
    Finale but it is written for Apple users and not easy for me to learn.

    Is Personal Composer 3 full version still available anywhere?

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