opense...@graffiti.net (Jeff Rubard) wrote in message news:<49b5d62a.03122...@posting.google.com>...
lofg...@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Lyle Lofgren) wrote in message news:<d62330a3.03122...@posting.google.com>...
opense...@graffiti.net (Jeff Rubard) wrote in message news:<49b5d62a.03122...@posting.google.com>...
"Steve S" <st...@tommyjarrell.gov> wrote in message news:<KdmdnXDba5r...@comcast.com>...
from the desk of Dr. Jenny Greenblatt
Southwestern North Carolina State University (East Campus)
Hello Mr Rubard,
glad there are no hard feelings...I wanted to publish it, but the committee
overruled me...at least the papers that come across my desk for J. Comp Am
Prim Guitaristry are more interesting than when I edited Sux/Rules/Bogus: A
Journal of Post-Cognitive Thought...
regards, jenny
Jenny,
I don't find it easy to bear ill will towards constructs, although I have found certain television programs of the relatively recent past taxing as a whole; but I'm actually quite concerned about this purported submission, as I clearly indicated that note was not
intended for academic publication. Ever since I had a charge of plagarism (whole-cloth, no less) lodged against me I've been a bit sensitive about the uses to which my words could be put, and find "horseplay" such as I believed us to be engaging in a little suspect (although, as I said, I took this to be a frothy enough conceit).
But, more importantly, I would like people to know that I did not submit to this fanciful journal and that it would certainly be
possible for a pattern of repeated distortion and fabrication of character traits to be conducted by such means in real life.
Sincerely,
Jeff Rubard
I know how you feel. I was really miffed when I found that Dr.
Greenblat had published the complete collection of my internet
postings in the Proceedings of the Old Time Lore on the Internet Committee (POTLIC). My first thought was to sue, but my
counselor-at-law pointed out a potential defense against my proposed lawsuit: a variant on the venerable tree-falling-in-the-forest-with-none-to-hear-it puzzle. Does copyright violation occur if no one reads it? My lawyer says no, so Dr.
Greenblat wins again!
Lyle
No, I can't really relate to you -- I don't feel as though Dr.
Greenblatt is a real person, nor feel the compulsion to act as if it
were so in the absence of fact. Furthermore, I think you should get
another lawyer, a real one if necessary: publishing material of
another's without permission is (as music trading demonstrates) one of
the stickiest of wickets, it's even really kind of a no-brainer. But
maybe there is something you can profitably take away from this "experience".
JeffAlthough I have to say, it probably isn't that I wouldn't take Jenny
to one of my local bars (though this is true).
2022 Update: Fahey was a long-time resident of Oregon, living in the
Salem area.
In article <e7572b5a-f4b0-4e78...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
2022 Update: Fahey was a long-time resident of Oregon, living in theWhen I learned of Mr Fahey's demise (almost a perfect two decades back) my thought was 'May he find victory over the demons he battled.'
Salem area.
DD
On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 9:06:50 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote:
In article <e7572b5a-f4b0-4e78...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
2022 Update: Fahey was a long-time resident of Oregon, living in theWhen I learned of Mr Fahey's demise (almost a perfect two decades back) my >> thought was 'May he find victory over the demons he battled.'
Salem area.
It was a whole style of "Oregon cultural living", where you made an economically
marginal product and thought well of yourself and ill of the world.
Result:
Government jobs, welfare, subsidized apartments. (The author Richard >Brautigan was like this too.)
In article <7966c059-7565-4224...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 16, 2022 at 9:06:50 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote:
In article <e7572b5a-f4b0-4e78...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
2022 Update: Fahey was a long-time resident of Oregon, living in theWhen I learned of Mr Fahey's demise (almost a perfect two decades back) my >> thought was 'May he find victory over the demons he battled.'
Salem area.
It was a whole style of "Oregon cultural living", where you made an economicallyA bit of research shows that Mr Fahey began recording in 1958 and didn't
marginal product and thought well of yourself and ill of the world.
more to Oregon until nearly a quarter-century later. Quite the prescient fellow!
Result:
Government jobs, welfare, subsidized apartments. (The author Richard >Brautigan was like this too.)
Another bit of research might reveal that Mr Brautigan ('diagnosed' with several profound disorders) left Oregon for San Francisco in 1954,
returned several times 'for lack of money' but spent the majority of his productive years out-of-state.
Who's going to let a few tawdry facts get in the way of '(g)overnment
jobs, welfare, subsidized apartments'? Certainly not a man worthy of his rant. Howl on, Mr Rubard... did you know that I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix?
DD
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 12:41:16 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote:
In article <7966c059-7565-4224...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
Result:
Government jobs, welfare, subsidized apartments. (The author Richard
Brautigan was like this too.)
Another bit of research might reveal that Mr Brautigan ('diagnosed' with
several profound disorders) left Oregon for San Francisco in 1954,
returned several times 'for lack of money' but spent the majority of his
productive years out-of-state.
Or, er, maybe that's just a story. (There's a lot of "just a story", which >you should know well enough yourself.) The actual man lived until quite >recently and we were friendly in his later years, drinking coffee together. >(We would never discuss our work; I think he was more aware of mine
than I of his.)
Who's going to let a few tawdry facts get in the way of '(g)overnment
jobs, welfare, subsidized apartments'? Certainly not a man worthy of his
rant. Howl on, Mr Rubard... did you know that I saw the best minds of my
generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging
themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix?
"Tawdry" indeed if they're actually untruths. (Are you a contemporary
of Ginsberg? Maybe you should hang it up, oldtimer; the brain does
get soft over the years, f'reals.)
In article <d8a7ba6f-adcf-486e...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 12:41:16 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote: >> In article <7966c059-7565-4224...@googlegroups.com>,[snip]
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
Result:
Government jobs, welfare, subsidized apartments. (The author Richard
Brautigan was like this too.)
Another bit of research might reveal that Mr Brautigan ('diagnosed' with >> several profound disorders) left Oregon for San Francisco in 1954,
returned several times 'for lack of money' but spent the majority of his >> productive years out-of-state.
Or, er, maybe that's just a story. (There's a lot of "just a story", which >you should know well enough yourself.) The actual man lived until quite >recently and we were friendly in his later years, drinking coffee together. >(We would never discuss our work; I think he was more aware of mineNever mind how poets can tell lies about themselves... according to https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/9987/richard-gary-brautigan he
than I of his.)
committed suicide in 1984 at the age of forty-nine.
It so very nice to meet someone besides me whose values of 'quite
recently' include 'thirty-eight years ago'! Did you fight with the Blues
or the Greys?
(according to https://twitter.com/japproximately the only one of you has 'published since the 90s (sic)'... and yet a man dead for a decade was
more aware of your works than you of his)
Who's going to let a few tawdry facts get in the way of '(g)overnment
jobs, welfare, subsidized apartments'? Certainly not a man worthy of his >> rant. Howl on, Mr Rubard... did you know that I saw the best minds of my >> generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging
themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix?
"Tawdry" indeed if they're actually untruths. (Are you a contemporary
of Ginsberg? Maybe you should hang it up, oldtimer; the brain does
get soft over the years, f'reals.)
Sounds like the Voice of Experience, Mr Rubard. My own steel-trap mind
may have long since rusted but youngsters might learn something - or at
least garner a bit of mirth! - from stepping back to watch an old man
dance.
Not 'f'reals'... for a certainty, or as much of a certainty that a 'might' might muster.
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 4:58:31 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote:
In article <d8a7ba6f-adcf-486e...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 12:41:16 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote: >> >> In article <7966c059-7565-4224...@googlegroups.com>,[snip]
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
Never mind how poets can tell lies about themselves... according toResult:
Government jobs, welfare, subsidized apartments. (The author Richard
Brautigan was like this too.)
Another bit of research might reveal that Mr Brautigan ('diagnosed' with >> >> several profound disorders) left Oregon for San Francisco in 1954,
returned several times 'for lack of money' but spent the majority of his >> >> productive years out-of-state.
Or, er, maybe that's just a story. (There's a lot of "just a story", which >> >you should know well enough yourself.) The actual man lived until quite
recently and we were friendly in his later years, drinking coffee together. >> >(We would never discuss our work; I think he was more aware of mine
than I of his.)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/9987/richard-gary-brautigan he
committed suicide in 1984 at the age of forty-nine.
It so very nice to meet someone besides me whose values of 'quite
recently' include 'thirty-eight years ago'! Did you fight with the Blues
or the Greys?
Nutbag, these "canned cons" have reached their expiration date.
The individual I referred to died within the last five years. Si,
es la verdad.
In article <ebf47de5-bd4a-455d...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 4:58:31 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote:
In article <d8a7ba6f-adcf-486e...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 12:41:16 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote:[snip]
In article <7966c059-7565-4224...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
Never mind how poets can tell lies about themselves... according toResult:
Government jobs, welfare, subsidized apartments. (The author Richard >> >> >Brautigan was like this too.)
Another bit of research might reveal that Mr Brautigan ('diagnosed' with
several profound disorders) left Oregon for San Francisco in 1954,
returned several times 'for lack of money' but spent the majority of his
productive years out-of-state.
Or, er, maybe that's just a story. (There's a lot of "just a story", which
you should know well enough yourself.) The actual man lived until quite >> >recently and we were friendly in his later years, drinking coffee together.
(We would never discuss our work; I think he was more aware of mine
than I of his.)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/9987/richard-gary-brautigan he
committed suicide in 1984 at the age of forty-nine.
It so very nice to meet someone besides me whose values of 'quite
recently' include 'thirty-eight years ago'! Did you fight with the Blues >> or the Greys?
Nutbag, these "canned cons" have reached their expiration date.I've provided documentation that the Gentle Reader can interpret as seen
The individual I referred to died within the last five years. Si,
es la verdad.
fit, muchacho. It'll be easy for you to prove yourself right by providing
a URL to anything about 'the actual man who lived quite recently' you blithered about above.
I'll wait for that and then, perhaps, patiently instruct you on showing a
bit of appropriate decency of language to your elders.
Get hopping, youngster, everyone's watching (everyone's watching the
UseNet in 2022?), the clock's ticking and you're failing, badly.
(now let's all wait for the angry 'I don't gotta prove nothin' to you!'
that any petulant prevaricator issues)
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 10:34:52 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote:
In article <ebf47de5-bd4a-455d...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 4:58:31 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote: >> >> In article <d8a7ba6f-adcf-486e...@googlegroups.com>,I've provided documentation that the Gentle Reader can interpret as seen
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 12:41:16 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote:[snip]
In article <7966c059-7565-4224...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
Never mind how poets can tell lies about themselves... according toResult:
Government jobs, welfare, subsidized apartments. (The author Richard >> >> >> >Brautigan was like this too.)
Another bit of research might reveal that Mr Brautigan ('diagnosed' with
several profound disorders) left Oregon for San Francisco in 1954,
returned several times 'for lack of money' but spent the majority of his
productive years out-of-state.
Or, er, maybe that's just a story. (There's a lot of "just a story", which
you should know well enough yourself.) The actual man lived until quite >> >> >recently and we were friendly in his later years, drinking coffee together.
(We would never discuss our work; I think he was more aware of mine
than I of his.)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/9987/richard-gary-brautigan he
committed suicide in 1984 at the age of forty-nine.
It so very nice to meet someone besides me whose values of 'quite
recently' include 'thirty-eight years ago'! Did you fight with the Blues >> >> or the Greys?
Nutbag, these "canned cons" have reached their expiration date.
The individual I referred to died within the last five years. Si,
es la verdad.
fit, muchacho. It'll be easy for you to prove yourself right by providing
a URL to anything about 'the actual man who lived quite recently' you
blithered about above.
OMG, Gigi.
In article <f1774f06-3301-4328...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 10:34:52 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote: >> In article <ebf47de5-bd4a-455d...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 4:58:31 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote: >> >> In article <d8a7ba6f-adcf-486e...@googlegroups.com>,I've provided documentation that the Gentle Reader can interpret as seen >> fit, muchacho. It'll be easy for you to prove yourself right by providing >> a URL to anything about 'the actual man who lived quite recently' you
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 12:41:16 PM UTC-8, docd...@panix.com wrote:[snip]
In article <7966c059-7565-4224...@googlegroups.com>,
Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreyda...@gmail.com> wrote:
Never mind how poets can tell lies about themselves... according toResult:
Government jobs, welfare, subsidized apartments. (The author Richard
Brautigan was like this too.)
Another bit of research might reveal that Mr Brautigan ('diagnosed' with
several profound disorders) left Oregon for San Francisco in 1954, >> >> >> returned several times 'for lack of money' but spent the majority of his
productive years out-of-state.
Or, er, maybe that's just a story. (There's a lot of "just a story", which
you should know well enough yourself.) The actual man lived until quite
recently and we were friendly in his later years, drinking coffee together.
(We would never discuss our work; I think he was more aware of mine
than I of his.)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/9987/richard-gary-brautigan he
committed suicide in 1984 at the age of forty-nine.
It so very nice to meet someone besides me whose values of 'quite
recently' include 'thirty-eight years ago'! Did you fight with the Blues
or the Greys?
Nutbag, these "canned cons" have reached their expiration date.
The individual I referred to died within the last five years. Si,
es la verdad.
blithered about above.
OMG, Gigi.
Anyone who needs to can see that no documentation was provided, just a few bellicose schoolyardisms and a rhodomontade of deflections.
Now, watch how a man leaves a table as a whole-cloth fabricator posts
claims of Glorious Victory.
DD
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