• Re: Afroz Bano - and name and gharana confusion!

    From =?UTF-8?B?QSDigJxhc2vigJ0gS2FraXJkZ@21:1/5 to Abhay on Sat Feb 18 11:29:17 2023
    On Sunday, December 28, 2008 at 2:48:19 PM UTC-5, Abhay wrote:
    On Dec 28, 6:05 pm, Abhik Majumdar <abhik....@gmail.com> wrote:
    I *have* heard enough Jaipur khayaaliyaa-s singing thumri - KA, Padmavati Shaligram, even Kesarbai!

    Yes, I recall a Kesarbai thumri myself.

    My question was more about a 'proper' thumri singer coming from a Jaipur background

    Ah, so to put it coarsely, you mean a tawaif/baiji from Jaipur? This
    begs a further question. How much of their Thumri gayaki did they owe
    to their training under such ustads? Waheed Khan had several baiji disciples apart from Akhtaribai, but I cannot imagine him teaching
    them Thumri, given that he himself would never sing them!
    Wahid Khan did not teach Akhtaribai thumri; he taught her khayal. So
    did Faiyaz Ahmed and Niaz Ahmed teach Afroz Bano khayal. Despite being formally trained in khayal gayaki in the Kirana gharana, these women
    chose to sing the thumri as their speciality.
    Many regular khayaaliyaa-s from the Kirana gharana *do* sing thumri.
    Far fewer Jaipur singers do so. Hence my question - which was half in
    jest anyway and does not, therefore, justify the heavy weather I am
    now making of it! :(
    Warm regards,
    Abhay


    Probably a decade late, but Shobha Gurtu was a thumri singer who had been trained in the Jaipur tradition.

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