• Re: Concerning new Amir Khan recordings

    From ChristianAMR@21:1/5 to Praful Kelkar on Thu Feb 9 16:59:42 2023
    Praful Kelkar schrieb am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2001 um 19:27:18 UTC+2:
    "Surajit A. Bose" rote in message news-
    Now a sop for the unsubtle: don't slay me for saying above that
    "Strictly speaking, Madhukauns would not be considered a true Kauns. Narrowly defined, 'Kauns' implies an aaroh-avaroh of ga-ma-dha-ni". Yes,
    I know that raagas like Pancham Malkauns and Sampoorna Malkauns exist. I also know that Kaushi-Kanada, Jog-Kauns, etc. cannot be described as permutations of the ga-ma-dha-ni sequence. That's why I threw in qualifiers like "strictly speaking", "would not be" (rather than
    "isn't"), and "narrowly defined". Like all raaga families, Kauns is too complex to be summarized in a sentence or two. It needs somebody of the erudition of Dr Parikkar to do justice to the enthralling, widely disparate cluster of raagas that shelter under the Kauns umbrella: Harikauns, Suryakauns, Navakauns, Kaushi Dhani, Kaushikaranjani... hint, hint, Rajan, are you listening?
    What falls under kauns is not to be defined just by succession of
    notes g-m-d-n. It is the chalan that marks it as such, as with any
    other ragang. That chalan can be grasped in even with one or two
    notes, since all the notes (definitely the key notes) in a ragang
    carry it's signature. In Madhukauns n-S-g are done along the Kauns
    a.ng - whereas S-g-M-P are done in the chalan of Madhuwanti. S-g-S
    are enough to invoke Kauns.
    To get more intricate the S-g-S in Jog-kauns is done along Jog a.ng
    and less along the Kauns (jog g is a slightly higher shruti with a
    different smaller andolan). In Jog-kauns Kauns (in particular
    Chandrakauns) comes largely from d-N-S and already in S-g one starts
    moving into Jog.
    Praful


    I am not sure if I noticed it by listening to records my self or if I have picked up from a lecture , but I already thought SgS alone would give Kauns-ang in Madhuvanti . Maybe it´s also by logically seeing that there aren´t many other possible
    sangatis available for Kauns-ang in Madhukauns ...

    Secondly the fact that SgS in Jogkauns has a higher shruti and a different andolan then in normal Kauns in nothing short of fascinating .

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