• Re: Can someone post an article on Sarasangi Ragam

    From s srinath@21:1/5 to K.R. Subramanyam on Tue Aug 23 05:41:32 2022
    On Tuesday, September 17, 1996 at 12:30:00 PM UTC+5:30, K.R. Subramanyam wrote:
    While one reason for the apparent unpopularity of Sarasangi is that there aren't too many kritis. Anothe reason is probably because it is a classic case of a "mongerel" melakarta....it is just too close and appears to be
    a hodge-podge of many other popular melas. It is interesting to see what ragas emerge when we change just a single note in Sarasangi:
    Note Changed Ensuing Raga
    R Mayamalavyagowla
    G Kiravani
    M Latangi
    D Sankarabharnam
    N Charukesi
    Because of its close affinity to so many old and popular ragas it is very difficult for a musician to give it a unique identity. Try humming Sarasangi and you'll find yourself tresspassing the territory of Sankarabharnam, Latangi
    and Charukesi at the very least. Hence Sarsangi has not got the status of a "gana" raga although it does seem to have a fairly pleasing combination of notes.
    For this raga to gain stature musicians will have evolve a distinct and aesthetic pattern of gamakas and prayogas that seem to add character to it.. I am not saying it can't happen....ragas such as Dharmavati have been developed
    fairly recently.
    At the expense of sounding like a broken record I'll repeat: a raga is NOT
    a scale or a collection of notes. If it were then there is no reason why the scale cannot be permutated (I'll not use a term like 'explored' since playing around with notes in a scale is NOT raga exploration)..a raga needs a separate
    identity that evolves over time through introduction of unique gamakas and prayogas. In the case of Sarasangi unfortunately (or fortunately!) its neighbouring ragas developed powerful identities and thus made it difficult for it to develop its personality.
    Two other ragas that suffer from the same syndrome: Natta Bhairavi (too close to Thodi, Bhairavi, Karaharapriya and Kiravani) and Harikambothi (too close to Sankarabharnam, Kambothi, Nattakuranji, etc). Harikambothi is a classic case of a sacrificing "mother"--like Kunti she fades in the glory of her progeny...i.e., the janyas of Harikambothi overshadow the janaka raga.
    KRS

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  • From Lakshman Ragde@21:1/5 to s srinath on Sat Sep 24 06:49:09 2022
    On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 8:41:33 AM UTC-4, s srinath wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 17, 1996 at 12:30:00 PM UTC+5:30, K.R. Subramanyam wrote:
    While one reason for the apparent unpopularity of Sarasangi is that there aren't too many kritis. Anothe reason is probably because it is a classic case of a "mongerel" melakarta....it is just too close and appears to be
    a hodge-podge of many other popular melas. It is interesting to see what ragas emerge when we change just a single note in Sarasangi:
    Note Changed Ensuing Raga
    R Mayamalavyagowla
    G Kiravani
    M Latangi
    D Sankarabharnam
    N Charukesi
    Because of its close affinity to so many old and popular ragas it is very difficult for a musician to give it a unique identity. Try humming Sarasangi
    and you'll find yourself tresspassing the territory of Sankarabharnam, Latangi
    and Charukesi at the very least. Hence Sarsangi has not got the status of a "gana" raga although it does seem to have a fairly pleasing combination of notes.
    For this raga to gain stature musicians will have evolve a distinct and aesthetic pattern of gamakas and prayogas that seem to add character to it..
    I am not saying it can't happen....ragas such as Dharmavati have been developed
    fairly recently.
    At the expense of sounding like a broken record I'll repeat: a raga is NOT a scale or a collection of notes. If it were then there is no reason why the
    scale cannot be permutated (I'll not use a term like 'explored' since playing
    around with notes in a scale is NOT raga exploration)..a raga needs a separate
    identity that evolves over time through introduction of unique gamakas and prayogas. In the case of Sarasangi unfortunately (or fortunately!) its neighbouring ragas developed powerful identities and thus made it difficult for it to develop its personality.
    Two other ragas that suffer from the same syndrome: Natta Bhairavi (too close
    to Thodi, Bhairavi, Karaharapriya and Kiravani) and Harikambothi (too close to Sankarabharnam, Kambothi, Nattakuranji, etc). Harikambothi is a classic case of a sacrificing "mother"--like Kunti she fades in the glory of her progeny...i.e., the janyas of Harikambothi overshadow the janaka raga.
    KRS
    Here is a comprehensive list of songs in sarasangi:

    Adi purushan anaiyale-Chapu-R.Shrinivasan (Nadopasana)
    Adiya pada arul purivai aravin shiram adil tiruvadi-Adi-Ambujam Krishna Arupadai vittinil-Adi-Chittur S.Subramanian
    Ashtaksharamula amariyunna-Adi-Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
    Bhairavi bhargavi-Chapu-R.K.Suryanarayana
    Bhakti margame nityamu manasa-Adi-Kunrakkudi Krishna Iyer
    Dhyanam seyya-K/Chapu-Vedanayakam Pillai
    Dina bandhu nive-Rupaka-Madurai G.S.Mani
    Enraikkum kripai varumo-Chapu-K.R.Narayanan
    Ettanai kavi padi-Adi-?
    Ettanai kavi padinum-Rupaka-Vedanayakam Pillai
    Ettum adiyavar irezhu ulaganaiyum-?-Abhirami Bhattar
    Gajamukha ganapatiye va-Rupaka-Rukmini Ramani
    Gangaikku nigarana-Adi-Rukmini Ramani
    Garala purisha paramesha krpaya pahi shambho-C/Rupaka-Vina Padmanabhiah
    Hanuma anuma o manasa hanuma namame-Adi-Balamuralikrishna
    Ilakku shirakka ilakkanam amainde-Ruipaka-Abhayambika
    Inda shadalam vanda varedenrarigilen-Rupaka-Gopalakrishna Bharati
    Itarameruga gati idiye sharanyamu satata-Adi-Annamacharya
    Jai jai rasm jai-Adi-Ganapati Sachidananda
    Jaya jagadishvari rakshamam-Adi-R.K.Suryanarayana
    Jaya jaya padmanabha murare jaya jagadisha-Adi-Svati Tirunal
    Kalayami tava padukam (sada) shri kamakshi -K/Chapu-Kadalur Subramaniam Kamakrodhadi chintala-Adi-Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
    Kamala nayana-Adi-Tiruvettiyur Tyagayya
    Kanye khila bharata-Adi-R.Shrinivasan (Nadopasana)
    Karuna tonu kapaduma kamita phalada rama-Rupaka-R.Venugopal
    Malaiyade maname malaiyade-Rupaka-Kotishvara Iyer
    Manam kanindu arula-Chapu-Padma Veeraraghavan
    Manasuloni doruka-?-?
    Manavi chekonavayya ma janakiramana-Rupaka-Patnam Subramania Iyer Marakatanga-Adi-Vinai Krishnamacharya
    Mariyadaiye peridam-Rupaka-Shivagangai Sundaramurti Bhagavatar
    Menu juchi mosa bokave manasa lonijada lilagu-Adi-Tyagaraja
    Muruga vallal pol karunai kolvor undo-Rupaka-Kovai Subri
    Nambi vanden unnai nalam pera-Adi-K.Hariharan
    Nenje kannanai-Adi-Chittur S.Subramanian
    Ni padamu nera nammiti niraja nayana-Rupaka-R.Venugopal
    Ni padamule nammitinayya nirajaksha rama-C/Triputa-Mysore Vasudevachar
    Nike dayaradu-?-Ponniah
    Nikela dayaradu ninu bhajinchina napai-Jhampa-Ramasami Shivan
    Niruttam iduntiru chitrambalavarai nittam-Adi-Muttu Tandavar
    Niye gati enru nambinom (tv)-Adi-Akkarai Sornalata
    Pan padum pungkuyile-Adi-Andavan Piccai
    Pann padum pungkuyile-Adi-Kamakshi Kuppuswami
    Parameshvara paripahimam-?-Bangalore S.Mukund
    Paripaliso guru-Adi-R.K.Padmanabha
    Paripaliso guru vadiraja-Adi-R.K.Padmanabha
    Parirakshaku levvura-Adi-T.Singaracharyulu
    Partu enna tan seivadam-Adi-Muttusvami Kavi
    Pittane bhaktaridam vaitta-T/Triputa-Nerur Shrinivasachar
    Purushottama yuvati-T/Eka-K.N.Srinivasan
    Purushottamane sharanam-Adi-Chitravina N.Ravikiran
    Putana jivitahara-Rupaka-Ennapadam Venkataramana Bhagavatar
    Rara sarigama-Adi-Ganapati Sachidananda
    Rasa bharitamu-Adi-Dokka Sriramamurti
    Rasika mahottama krishna shri rasa mahotsava-Chapu-Uttukadu Venkatasubbier Sadashiva hrdaya nivasini-Adi-K.Ramaraj
    Sadashivam upasmahe satatam-C/Triputa-Jayachamaraja Odeyar
    Sadhu sajjana poshana (lng)-Triputa-Govindacharya
    Sankatam tirtu andarul pankaja vadane un charana-T/Adi-D.Pattammal Saptashvarudham-?-Ganapati Sachidananda
    Sarasa dala netri amba sarasadala netri mam-Adi-Ashok R.Madhav
    Sarasangi (tv)-Adi-?
    Sarasangi kalavani-Rupaka-C.R.Balavishvanathan
    Sarasangi marulu minchi sarasaku (tv)-Adi-Vinai Krishnamacharya
    Sarasangi sangita (tv) Adi-Raji Raman
    Sarasangi savitri (tv)-Adi-Madokaram Prashanth Iyengar Sarasangiye-Chapu-Bangalore S.Mukund
    Sarasavadalu (p)-Adi-Bangalore S.Mukund
    Sarasiruha nayana-Adi-N.S.Ramachandran
    Sarvadhishtanamaina-Adi-Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
    Saurasenesham vallisham subramanyam bhajeham-Adi-Muttusvami Dikshitar
    Shankaran panginil tangidum pangiye-Adi-K.S.Krishnamurti
    Sharadambe samraksha-Rupaka-Bangalore S.Mukund
    Sharade varade sarasangi vinute-Rupaka-C.Rangiah
    Shoka roga bhayamula Adi-K.M.Soundaryavalli
    Shri padmanabha dinadayapara un padam-Jhampa-Lakshmi Krishna
    Shri ranganayakam cintayAmi-Adi-K.N.Ramseshan
    Soma sundara surya lochana-Adi-Muttiah Bhagavatar
    Tai shollum varttaiyai tattadu-Adi-Shuddhananda Bharati
    Teduvor tedum shelvame shivame (a)-Adi-Ramalingasvami
    Tillana (udara dhim)-Chapu-Nagamani Srinath
    Tirupati malaiyurai venkata va tiruvadi-Adi-Dandapani Deshikar
    Tiruttam idum-Adi-Muttu Tandavar
    Tondu sheidale vAzhvinal kadan-Adi-T.Lakshmana Pillai
    Tripura bhairavigudhanna (lkg)-Eka-Venkatamakhi
    Udaittanai vanja piraviyai-C/Eka-Abhirami Bhattar
    Udara dhim (t)-Chapu-Nagamani Srinath
    Unadu tiruvadi nambi vanden enakkoru-Adi-Gopalakrishna Bharati
    Unai anri tunai kanen shri ramachandra-K/Jhampa-Periyasamy Tooran
    Vagdevi vani-?-Suvarna Nalapat
    Vandeham govinda pada kamalam-Chapu-Balamuralikrishna
    Varalakshmi taye varavendum (tv)-Adi-Rukmini Sivakumar
    Varuvarai vazhvikkum-Adi-Rukmini Ramani
    Veda mula veda pada-Rupaka-Chitravina N.Ravikiran
    Vel endi nila mayil eri-Jhampa-Ambujam Krishna
    Vel endi va vadivelava-S/Chapu-Brazil Subramaniam

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