• If you could only have five jazz guitar books......

    From JimK@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 10 20:27:55 2020
    I lost all my jazz books in a fire a year ago. Three of those white book boxes full. I probably never could have studied them all. But I would like to repurchase a few of the important ones. But I can't remember any that I thought were most important
    except Berg's The Goal Note Method, which I just reordered from jazzbooks.com, and Levine's The Jazz Theory Book, of course.

    Would you say what jazz instructional books you consider the most important, say under five, or even one?

    Thanks.
    Jim

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  • From JimK@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 10 20:29:01 2020
    I regret putting "guitar" in the title. I didn't mean to ask about guitar books, more, how to play jazz in general.

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  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to JimK on Tue Aug 11 22:36:32 2020
    On 2020-08-11 03:29:01 +0000, JimK said:

    I regret putting "guitar" in the title. I didn't mean to ask about
    guitar books, more, how to play jazz in general.

    If your intent is to *avoid* guitar books I'd consider Bert Ligon's
    "Connecting Chords with Linear Harmony" and "Comprehensive Technique
    for Jazz Musicians".

    I probably have at least another 5 or 7 for guitar, but if your intent
    is to limit it to "jazz music" without reference to the instrument,
    there you go. I might add Barry Harris's "The Barry Harris Workshop
    Video" available through Howard Ree's Jazz Workshops webpage.

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  • From slowjammerukdog@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 12 00:28:24 2020
    I’m already reaching into the flames to rescue Ted Greene’s Chord Chemistry.

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  • From JimK@21:1/5 to Gerry on Thu Aug 13 20:48:30 2020
    No, I didn't mean to exclude guitar books, I just didn't want to limit to them. Don't see many replies, I haven't been here for a while and wonder if it's still active....

    Thanks.

    Lignon is one of the ones I think of as the top few I had, so thank you for reminding me of that. With The Goal Note Method, those two may be my top two that I lost.


    Jim



    On Tuesday, August 11, 2020 at 11:36:36 PM UTC-6, Gerry wrote:
    On 2020-08-11 03:29:01 +0000, JimK said:

    I regret putting "guitar" in the title. I didn't mean to ask about
    guitar books, more, how to play jazz in general.
    If your intent is to *avoid* guitar books I'd consider Bert Ligon's "Connecting Chords with Linear Harmony" and "Comprehensive Technique
    for Jazz Musicians".

    I probably have at least another 5 or 7 for guitar, but if your intent
    is to limit it to "jazz music" without reference to the instrument,
    there you go. I might add Barry Harris's "The Barry Harris Workshop
    Video" available through Howard Ree's Jazz Workshops webpage.

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  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to JimK on Fri Aug 14 22:33:36 2020
    On 2020-08-14 03:48:30 +0000, JimK said:

    No, I didn't mean to exclude guitar books, I just didn't want to limit
    to them. Don't see many replies, I haven't been here for a while and
    wonder if it's still active....

    As you can see, it's not. It's all moved to Facebook and away from the tenacious trolls.

    I'm in the neighborhood occasionally engaged in other, also dying, newsgroups.

    Lignon is one of the ones I think of as the top few I had, so thank you
    for reminding me of that. With The Goal Note Method, those two may be
    my top two that I lost.

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  • From JimK@21:1/5 to Gerry on Sat Aug 15 16:19:04 2020
    On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 11:33:39 PM UTC-6, Gerry wrote:
    On 2020-08-14 03:48:30 +0000, JimK said:

    No, I didn't mean to exclude guitar books, I just didn't want to limit
    to them. Don't see many replies, I haven't been here for a while and
    wonder if it's still active....
    As you can see, it's not. It's all moved to Facebook and away from the tenacious trolls.

    I'm in the neighborhood occasionally engaged in other, also dying, newsgroups.
    Lignon is one of the ones I think of as the top few I had, so thank you
    for reminding me of that. With The Goal Note Method, those two may be
    my top two that I lost.



    Thanks Gerry for the responses. Well, sorry to hear everyone's gone to Facebook. I'm not comfortable with Facebook.

    Take care and be safe....

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  • From Joey Goldstein@21:1/5 to JimK on Mon Aug 17 10:32:11 2020
    On 2020-08-10 11:27 p.m., JimK wrote:
    I lost all my jazz books in a fire a year ago. Three of those white book boxes full. I probably never could have studied them all. But I would like to repurchase a few of the important ones. But I can't remember any that I thought were most important
    except Berg's The Goal Note Method, which I just reordered from jazzbooks.com, and Levine's The Jazz Theory Book, of course.

    Would you say what jazz instructional books you consider the most important, say under five, or even one?

    Thanks.
    Jim


    The Chord-Scale Theory and Jazz Harmony by Nettles and Graff.

    How to Improvise by Hal Crook

    Patterns For Jazz - Coker, et al

    A Chromatic Approach To Jazz Melody And Harmony by David Liebman

    Thesaurus Of Melodic Patterns - Slonimsky.

    For guitar it'd be:

    The Mickey Baker Book (whatever it's called - for beginners)

    A Modern Method For Guitar (Vols 1-3) - William Leavitt

    The Advancing Guitarist - Mick Goodrick

    120 Exercises For Right Hand - Guiliani

    One of the Joe Pass Books waqs real important for me.
    I forget if it was the Joe Pass Method or the Joe Pass Style.
    They're both probably great.

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  • From James Seaberry@21:1/5 to Joey Goldstein on Wed Aug 19 05:57:57 2020
    On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 10:32:16 AM UTC-4, Joey Goldstein wrote:
    On 2020-08-10 11:27 p.m., JimK wrote:
    I lost all my jazz books in a fire a year ago. Three of those white book boxes full. I probably never could have studied them all. But I would like to repurchase a few of the important ones. But I can't remember any that I thought were most important
    except Berg's The Goal Note Method, which I just reordered from jazzbooks.com, and Levine's The Jazz Theory Book, of course.

    Would you say what jazz instructional books you consider the most important, say under five, or even one?

    Thanks.
    Jim

    The Chord-Scale Theory and Jazz Harmony by Nettles and Graff.

    How to Improvise by Hal Crook

    Patterns For Jazz - Coker, et al

    A Chromatic Approach To Jazz Melody And Harmony by David Liebman

    Thesaurus Of Melodic Patterns - Slonimsky.

    For guitar it'd be:

    The Mickey Baker Book (whatever it's called - for beginners)

    A Modern Method For Guitar (Vols 1-3) - William Leavitt

    The Advancing Guitarist - Mick Goodrick

    120 Exercises For Right Hand - Guiliani

    One of the Joe Pass Books waqs real important for me.
    I forget if it was the Joe Pass Method or the Joe Pass Style.
    They're both probably great.
    Jonathan Kreisberg's "Offerings Of Note" maybe?

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  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to James Seaberry on Wed Aug 19 22:07:50 2020
    On 2020-08-19 12:57:57 +0000, James Seaberry said:

    On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 10:32:16 AM UTC-4, Joey Goldstein wrote:
    On 2020-08-10 11:27 p.m., JimK wrote:> > I lost all my jazz books in a
    fire a year ago. Three of those white book boxes full. I probably never
    could have studied them all. But I would like to repurchase a few of
    the important ones. But I can't remember any that I thought were most
    important except Berg's The Goal Note Method, which I just reordered
    from jazzbooks.com, and Levine's The Jazz Theory Book, of course.> >> >
    Would you say what jazz instructional books you consider the most
    important, say under five, or even one?> >> > Thanks.> > Jim> >
    The Chord-Scale Theory and Jazz Harmony by Nettles and Graff.>> How to
    Improvise by Hal Crook>> Patterns For Jazz - Coker, et al>> A Chromatic
    Approach To Jazz Melody And Harmony by David Liebman>> Thesaurus Of
    Melodic Patterns - Slonimsky.>> For guitar it'd be:>> The Mickey Baker
    Book (whatever it's called - for beginners)>> A Modern Method For
    Guitar (Vols 1-3) - William Leavitt>> The Advancing Guitarist - Mick
    Goodrick>> 120 Exercises For Right Hand - Guiliani>> One of the Joe
    Pass Books waqs real important for me.> I forget if it was the Joe Pass
    Method or the Joe Pass Style.> They're both probably great.
    Jonathan Kreisberg's "Offerings Of Note" maybe?

    Is that good? I don't know it.

    I find I always go back to Alan Kingstone's "Barry Harris For Guitar"
    for some ideas.

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  • From JimK@21:1/5 to Joey Goldstein on Fri Aug 28 06:30:05 2020
    Hi Joey, long time. I still have the Harmonic Analysis book from the community college in Canada. I had that book under my desk at work, so it was not lost, thank goodness.

    thanks for the list.

    Jim


    On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 8:32:16 AM UTC-6, Joey Goldstein wrote:
    On 2020-08-10 11:27 p.m., JimK wrote:
    I lost all my jazz books in a fire a year ago. Three of those white book boxes full. I probably never could have studied them all. But I would like to repurchase a few of the important ones. But I can't remember any that I thought were most important
    except Berg's The Goal Note Method, which I just reordered from jazzbooks.com, and Levine's The Jazz Theory Book, of course.

    Would you say what jazz instructional books you consider the most important, say under five, or even one?

    Thanks.
    Jim

    The Chord-Scale Theory and Jazz Harmony by Nettles and Graff.

    How to Improvise by Hal Crook

    Patterns For Jazz - Coker, et al

    A Chromatic Approach To Jazz Melody And Harmony by David Liebman

    Thesaurus Of Melodic Patterns - Slonimsky.

    For guitar it'd be:

    The Mickey Baker Book (whatever it's called - for beginners)

    A Modern Method For Guitar (Vols 1-3) - William Leavitt

    The Advancing Guitarist - Mick Goodrick

    120 Exercises For Right Hand - Guiliani

    One of the Joe Pass Books waqs real important for me.
    I forget if it was the Joe Pass Method or the Joe Pass Style.
    They're both probably great.

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  • From JimK@21:1/5 to Gerry on Fri Aug 28 06:27:01 2020
    On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 11:33:39 PM UTC-6, Gerry wrote:
    On 2020-08-14 03:48:30 +0000, JimK said:

    No, I didn't mean to exclude guitar books, I just didn't want to limit
    to them. Don't see many replies, I haven't been here for a while and
    wonder if it's still active....
    As you can see, it's not. It's all moved to Facebook and away from the tenacious trolls.

    I'm in the neighborhood occasionally engaged in other, also dying, newsgroups.
    Lignon is one of the ones I think of as the top few I had, so thank you
    for reminding me of that. With The Goal Note Method, those two may be
    my top two that I lost.

    Well, I'm getting back into playing more. I might try to suffer facebook to reconnect, where on facebook?

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  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to JimK on Fri Aug 28 17:24:35 2020
    On 2020-08-28 13:27:01 +0000, JimK said:

    On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 11:33:39 PM UTC-6, Gerry wrote:
    On 2020-08-14 03:48:30 +0000, JimK said:

    No, I didn't mean to exclude guitar books, I just didn't want to limit
    to them. Don't see many replies, I haven't been here for a while and
    wonder if it's still active....
    As you can see, it's not. It's all moved to Facebook and away from the
    tenacious trolls.

    I'm in the neighborhood occasionally engaged in other, also dying, newsgroups.
    Ligon is one of the ones I think of as the top few I had, so thank you
    for reminding me of that. With The Goal Note Method, those two may be
    my top two that I lost.

    Well, I'm getting back into playing more. I might try to suffer
    facebook to reconnect, where on facebook?

    Jazz Guitar Chat
    Modern Jazz Guitar
    Jazz Guitar
    Jazz Guitar Forum
    Chord-Melody Guitar
    Jazz Guitar Confidential

    And there are more. Just search for "jazz" or "guitar" or similar.

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  • From Joey Goldstein@21:1/5 to JimK on Sat Aug 29 09:16:07 2020
    Hi Jim

    You Modern Harmonic Progression by Al Michalek?
    I used to recommend that book when it was still available.
    Very simple.
    Just what you need to get started to be able to play.


    On 2020-08-28 9:30 a.m., JimK wrote:
    Hi Joey, long time. I still have the Harmonic Analysis book from the community college in Canada. I had that book under my desk at work, so it was not lost, thank goodness.

    thanks for the list.

    Jim


    On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 8:32:16 AM UTC-6, Joey Goldstein wrote:
    On 2020-08-10 11:27 p.m., JimK wrote:
    I lost all my jazz books in a fire a year ago. Three of those white book boxes full. I probably never could have studied them all. But I would like to repurchase a few of the important ones. But I can't remember any that I thought were most important
    except Berg's The Goal Note Method, which I just reordered from jazzbooks.com, and Levine's The Jazz Theory Book, of course.

    Would you say what jazz instructional books you consider the most important, say under five, or even one?

    Thanks.
    Jim

    The Chord-Scale Theory and Jazz Harmony by Nettles and Graff.

    How to Improvise by Hal Crook

    Patterns For Jazz - Coker, et al

    A Chromatic Approach To Jazz Melody And Harmony by David Liebman

    Thesaurus Of Melodic Patterns - Slonimsky.

    For guitar it'd be:

    The Mickey Baker Book (whatever it's called - for beginners)

    A Modern Method For Guitar (Vols 1-3) - William Leavitt

    The Advancing Guitarist - Mick Goodrick

    120 Exercises For Right Hand - Guiliani

    One of the Joe Pass Books waqs real important for me.
    I forget if it was the Joe Pass Method or the Joe Pass Style.
    They're both probably great.

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  • From SteveK@21:1/5 to JimK on Mon Aug 31 11:13:18 2020
    On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 11:29:06 PM UTC-4, JimK wrote:
    I regret putting "guitar" in the title. I didn't mean to ask about guitar books, more, how to play jazz in general.

    If I lost my ridiculously large library, I would probably just buy these (and the Levine book you already mentioned.) I would buy them in-order from top-to-bottom.

    Charlie Parker or Miles Omnibook. OK, get both omnibooks and maybe you don't need the other books?
    Hal Galper, "Forward Motion"
    Randy Vincent, "Three-Note Voicings and Beyond"
    Barry Greene, "Solo Jazz Guitar Method"
    Gary Campbell "Expansions"
    Joe Pass "Chord Solos"--pretty advanced and no tab

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  • From SteveK@21:1/5 to JimK on Mon Aug 31 11:08:30 2020
    On Monday, August 10, 2020 at 11:29:06 PM UTC-4, JimK wrote:
    I regret putting "guitar" in the title. I didn't mean to ask about guitar books, more, how to play jazz in general.

    If I lost my ridiculously large library, I would probably just buy these (and the Levine book you already mentioned.) The first is my would be to buy them from top-to-bottom.

    Charlie Parker or Miles Omnibook. OK, get both omnibooks and maybe you don't need the others?
    Hal Galper, "Forward Motion"
    Randy Vincent, "Three-Note Voicings and Beyond"
    Barry Greene, "Solo Jazz Guitar Method"
    Gary Campbell "Expansions"
    Joe Pass "Chord Solos"--pretty advanced and no tab

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  • From JimK@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 1 11:26:01 2020
    Hi Joey, I got that book once on library loan from the community college in canada, and once on ebay. I copied it when I got it from the library, and am scanning it in. I'd like to share it once I finish. I don't know about copyright infringement etc.

    From what I have seen, there is only one other real harmonic analysis book like that and it's not nearly as good.

    Hopefully I can put it out there in the internet one of these days. Let me know if you'd like a copy and I'll try to finish scanning it.

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  • From Joey Goldstein@21:1/5 to JimK on Thu Sep 3 09:43:51 2020
    On 2020-09-01 2:26 p.m., JimK wrote:
    Hi Joey, I got that book once on library loan from the community college in canada, and once on ebay. I copied it when I got it from the library, and am scanning it in. I'd like to share it once I finish. I don't know about copyright infringement etc.

    From what I have seen, there is only one other real harmonic analysis book like that and it's not nearly as good.

    Hopefully I can put it out there in the internet one of these days. Let me know if you'd like a copy and I'll try to finish scanning it.


    I'm pretty sure that copying that book and distributing it to others
    will be illegal, especially if you charge money.

    There are many books out there now that cover the same territory,
    usually in more detail.
    Michalek's book was an extreme reduction of the materials, which is why
    I liked it.
    Just the most important facts/info for a young player to get started
    playing tunes.

    Nowadays, I recommend The Chord-Scale Theory and Jazz Harmony by Nettles
    and Graff.

    Mark Levine's theory book is also quite good in some ways.
    And there's a few other books out there whose titles I forget at the moment. There's one by a guy named Jaffe, I think.

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  • From JimK@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 14 00:06:41 2020
    Joey, shoot me an email, got something for ya.

    jkk251@gmail.com

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