Wes Montgomery was NOT overweight. I have tons of pictures of him and if you Google images of him you won't find one where he is significantly overweight. In fact, he always looked quite muscular, if anything.
A smoker, sure. But some people smoke for 60 years and don't die of a heart attack. Smoking is unhealthy, but rarely causes you to die of heart failure at the age of 45. Anyone who thinks that reads too many health clinic brochures.
This being said, it's a good bet his supposed 'overweight' physique and smoking had nothing to do with his heart attack. High blood pressure, hypertension and tons of stress are what did it.
On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 1:08:46 AM UTC-5, reality...@gmail.com wrote:
Wes Montgomery was NOT overweight. I have tons of pictures of him and
if you Google images of him you won't find one where he is
significantly overweight. In fact, he always looked quite muscular, if
anything.
A smoker, sure. But some people smoke for 60 years and don't die of a
heart attack. Smoking is unhealthy, but rarely causes you to die of
heart failure at the age of 45. Anyone who thinks that reads too many
health clinic brochures.
This being said, it's a good bet his supposed 'overweight' physique and
smoking had nothing to do with his heart attack. High blood pressure,
hypertension and tons of stress are what did it.
Thank you for your insight.
You're absolutely correct. He was not overweight. Yes, he was a "big"
guy but he was taller and had a larger frame but Wes not heavy and I've
seen thousands of photos and he was not overweight. The high blood
pressure, hypertension, stress and contrary to what you say, the
smoking, I believe, was a contributing factor.
I'm glad to see that someone pointed out this bit about his "weight
issue". Raising a large family, crazy travel and the sort adds up to a
LOT of stress.
On 2020-05-06 17:01:14 +0000, kyodoconsulting@gmail.com said:
On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 1:08:46 AM UTC-5, reality...@gmail.com wrote:
Wes Montgomery was NOT overweight. I have tons of pictures of him and
if you Google images of him you won't find one where he is
significantly overweight. In fact, he always looked quite muscular, if
anything.
A smoker, sure. But some people smoke for 60 years and don't die of a
heart attack. Smoking is unhealthy, but rarely causes you to die of
heart failure at the age of 45. Anyone who thinks that reads too many
health clinic brochures.
This being said, it's a good bet his supposed 'overweight' physique and >> smoking had nothing to do with his heart attack. High blood pressure,
hypertension and tons of stress are what did it.
Thank you for your insight.
You're absolutely correct. He was not overweight. Yes, he was a "big" guy but he was taller and had a larger frame but Wes not heavy and I've seen thousands of photos and he was not overweight. The high blood pressure, hypertension, stress and contrary to what you say, the
smoking, I believe, was a contributing factor.
I'm glad to see that someone pointed out this bit about his "weight issue". Raising a large family, crazy travel and the sort adds up to a LOT of stress.
Thank you both for your medical evaluation of Wes Montgomery. In future medical charts you might want to put an asterisk by at least one
element: Hypertension is another name for "high blood pressure": They
are the same thing.
I'm glad to hear that smoking will "rarely cause you to die of heart
failure at the age of 45." But opening it up to a broader range of age
(say from 10-90), "...smoking cigarettes also affects the heart and
blood vessels and remains one of the most *preventable* causes of heart disease." You can google to find a few hundred pages corroborating that information.
Those among us without a medical background only know that Wes
Montgomery died of a heart attack. We can't possibly divine that
family size or "crazy travel" had anything at all to do with it. There
are many who find neither of these stressful, but in fact relaxing. Wes
may well have had a predeliction for cholesterol and high blood
pressure; statistically, African-Americans do, even without smoking.
Both of these can lead to heard desease.
And now an analysis of what *really* killed Duke Ellington, Audie
Murphy and Ty Cobb...
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 7:04:23 PM UTC-5, Gerry wrote:
On 2020-05-06 17:01:14 +0000, kyodoconsulting@gmail.com said:
On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 1:08:46 AM UTC-5, reality...@gmail.com wrote:
Wes Montgomery was NOT overweight. I have tons of pictures of him and >> if you Google images of him you won't find one where he is
significantly overweight. In fact, he always looked quite muscular, if >> anything.
A smoker, sure. But some people smoke for 60 years and don't die of a >> heart attack. Smoking is unhealthy, but rarely causes you to die of
heart failure at the age of 45. Anyone who thinks that reads too many >> health clinic brochures.
This being said, it's a good bet his supposed 'overweight' physique and >> smoking had nothing to do with his heart attack. High blood pressure, >> hypertension and tons of stress are what did it.
Thank you for your insight.
You're absolutely correct. He was not overweight. Yes, he was a "big" guy but he was taller and had a larger frame but Wes not heavy and I've seen thousands of photos and he was not overweight. The high blood pressure, hypertension, stress and contrary to what you say, the smoking, I believe, was a contributing factor.
I'm glad to see that someone pointed out this bit about his "weight issue". Raising a large family, crazy travel and the sort adds up to a LOT of stress.
contributing factor, that would have been the other person who made that remark. I merely pointed out that he was not overweight.Thank you both for your medical evaluation of Wes Montgomery. In future medical charts you might want to put an asterisk by at least one
element: Hypertension is another name for "high blood pressure": They
are the same thing.
I'm glad to hear that smoking will "rarely cause you to die of heart failure at the age of 45." But opening it up to a broader range of age (say from 10-90), "...smoking cigarettes also affects the heart and
blood vessels and remains one of the most *preventable* causes of heart disease." You can google to find a few hundred pages corroborating that information.
Those among us without a medical background only know that Wes
Montgomery died of a heart attack. We can't possibly divine that
family size or "crazy travel" had anything at all to do with it. There
are many who find neither of these stressful, but in fact relaxing. Wes may well have had a predeliction for cholesterol and high blood
pressure; statistically, African-Americans do, even without smoking.
Both of these can lead to heard desease.
And now an analysis of what *really* killed Duke Ellington, Audie
Murphy and Ty Cobb...
Yes. Thanks for the clarification as I have a relative with hypertension and know the difference. My mistake for being redundant in my statement as I was trying simply adding to a conversation. As for the smoking, I did not suggest that it wasn't a
You could have made your point without making pompous remarks such as "adding asterisks" and "those of us without a medical background". Your points might be salient but really lost with your delivery.these responsibilities as a husband and father. I guess they were also "divining".
And nobody is "divining" when they talk how large his family was and the stresses associated with it. That is a fact, not a supposition or guess. Two of his brothers, Buddy and Monk, who had been interviewed about Wes having to shoulder a lot with
But what would they know. They were only his brothers.
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 7:04:23 PM UTC-5, Gerry wrote:
On 2020-05-06 17:01:14 +0000, kyodoconsulting@gmail.com said:
On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 1:08:46 AM UTC-5, reality...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> Wes Montgomery was NOT overweight. I have tons of pictures of him and> >>>> >> if you Google images of him you won't find one where he is> >>
significantly overweight. In fact, he always looked quite muscular, if> >>>> >> anything.
A smoker, sure. But some people smoke for 60 years and don't die of a> >>>> >> heart attack. Smoking is unhealthy, but rarely causes you to die of> >>>> >> heart failure at the age of 45. Anyone who thinks that reads too
many> >> health clinic brochures.
This being said, it's a good bet his supposed 'overweight' physique
pressure,> >> hypertension and tons of stress are what did it.smoking had nothing to do with his heart attack. High blood
Thank you for your insight.
You're absolutely correct. He was not overweight. Yes, he was a
"big"> > guy but he was taller and had a larger frame but Wes not heavy
and I've> > seen thousands of photos and he was not overweight. The
high blood> > pressure, hypertension, stress and contrary to what you
say, the> > smoking, I believe, was a contributing factor.
I'm glad to see that someone pointed out this bit about his "weight> >
issue". Raising a large family, crazy travel and the sort adds up to
LOT of stress.
Thank you both for your medical evaluation of Wes Montgomery. In
future> medical charts you might want to put an asterisk by at least
element: Hypertension is another name for "high blood pressure":They> are the same thing.
I'm glad to hear that smoking will "rarely cause you to die of heart>
failure at the age of 45." But opening it up to a broader range of age>
(say from 10-90), "...smoking cigarettes also affects the heart and>
blood vessels and remains one of the most *preventable* causes of
heart> disease." You can google to find a few hundred pages
corroborating that> information.
Those among us without a medical background only know that Wes>
Montgomery died of a heart attack. We can't possibly divine that>
family size or "crazy travel" had anything at all to do with it. There>
are many who find neither of these stressful, but in fact relaxing.
may well have had a predeliction for cholesterol and high blood>pressure; statistically, African-Americans do, even without smoking.
Both of these can lead to heard desease.
And now an analysis of what *really* killed Duke Ellington, Audie>
Murphy and Ty Cobb...
Yes. Thanks for the clarification as I have a relative with
hypertension and know the difference. My mistake for being redundant
in my statement as I was trying simply adding to a conversation. As
for the smoking, I did not suggest that it wasn't a contributing
factor, that would have been the other person who made that remark. I
merely pointed out that he was not overweight.
You could have made your point without making pompous remarks such as
"adding asterisks" and "those of us without a medical background".
Your points might be salient but really lost with your delivery.
And nobody is "divining" when they talk how large his family was and
the stresses associated with it. That is a fact, not a supposition or
guess. Two of his brothers, Buddy and Monk, who had been interviewed
about Wes having to shoulder a lot with these responsibilities as a
husband and father. I guess they were also "divining".
But what would they know. They were only his brothers.
On 2020-05-07 01:10:05 +0000, kyodoconsulting@gmail.com said:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 7:04:23 PM UTC-5, Gerry wrote:
On 2020-05-06 17:01:14 +0000, kyodoconsulting@gmail.com said:
On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 1:08:46 AM UTC-5, reality...@gmail.com wrote:
Wes Montgomery was NOT overweight. I have tons of pictures of him and> >>>> >> if you Google images of him you won't find one where he is> >>
significantly overweight. In fact, he always looked quite muscular, if> >>>> >> anything.
A smoker, sure. But some people smoke for 60 years and don't die of a> >>>> >> heart attack. Smoking is unhealthy, but rarely causes you to die of> >>>> >> heart failure at the age of 45. Anyone who thinks that reads too >>>> many> >> health clinic brochures.
This being said, it's a good bet his supposed 'overweight' physique >>>> and> >> smoking had nothing to do with his heart attack. High blood >>>> pressure,> >> hypertension and tons of stress are what did it.
Thank you for your insight.
You're absolutely correct. He was not overweight. Yes, he was a
"big"> > guy but he was taller and had a larger frame but Wes not heavy >>> and I've> > seen thousands of photos and he was not overweight. The
high blood> > pressure, hypertension, stress and contrary to what you >>> say, the> > smoking, I believe, was a contributing factor.
I'm glad to see that someone pointed out this bit about his "weight> > >>> issue". Raising a large family, crazy travel and the sort adds up to >>> a> > LOT of stress.
Thank you both for your medical evaluation of Wes Montgomery. In
future> medical charts you might want to put an asterisk by at least
element: Hypertension is another name for "high blood pressure":They> are the same thing.
I'm glad to hear that smoking will "rarely cause you to die of heart>
failure at the age of 45." But opening it up to a broader range of age> >> (say from 10-90), "...smoking cigarettes also affects the heart and>
blood vessels and remains one of the most *preventable* causes of
heart> disease." You can google to find a few hundred pages
corroborating that> information.
Those among us without a medical background only know that Wes>
Montgomery died of a heart attack. We can't possibly divine that>
family size or "crazy travel" had anything at all to do with it. There> >> are many who find neither of these stressful, but in fact relaxing.
may well have had a predeliction for cholesterol and high blood>pressure; statistically, African-Americans do, even without smoking.
Both of these can lead to heard desease.
And now an analysis of what *really* killed Duke Ellington, Audie>
Murphy and Ty Cobb...
Yes. Thanks for the clarification as I have a relative with
hypertension and know the difference. My mistake for being redundant
in my statement as I was trying simply adding to a conversation. As
for the smoking, I did not suggest that it wasn't a contributing
factor, that would have been the other person who made that remark. I merely pointed out that he was not overweight.
You could have made your point without making pompous remarks such as "adding asterisks" and "those of us without a medical background".
Your points might be salient but really lost with your delivery.
Yes, I could have, but that wouldn't underscore the pomposity of your claims.
I don't like these bogus "facts", you don't like my punctuation. Fair trade.
And nobody is "divining" when they talk how large his family was and
the stresses associated with it. That is a fact, not a supposition or guess. Two of his brothers, Buddy and Monk, who had been interviewed about Wes having to shoulder a lot with these responsibilities as a husband and father. I guess they were also "divining".
Millions of people "shoulder responsibilities" without heart desease;
this is not a confirmation regarding the medical details of his
passing. Calling this "divining" as the "cause of death" is accurate.
Some people live a life of vastly greater stress and don't have heart attacks. It could have been a contributing factor, or it could have
been irrelevant, just like his consumption of fried chicken, or
cigarettes. You haven't hardly walked back enough. Along with you two,
his brothers also aren't medical personnel.
But what would they know. They were only his brothers.
I'm glad you've underscored that: A sibling relationship too confers no medical expertise.
On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 1:43:57 AM UTC-5, Gerry wrote:
On 2020-05-07 01:10:05 +0000, kyodoconsulting@gmail.com said:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 7:04:23 PM UTC-5, Gerry wrote:
On 2020-05-06 17:01:14 +0000, kyodoconsulting@gmail.com said:
On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 1:08:46 AM UTC-5, reality...@gmail.com wrote:
Wes Montgomery was NOT overweight. I have tons of pictures of him and>> >>>>>> >>>> >> if you Google images of him you won't find one where he is> >>> >>>>>> >>>> significantly overweight. In fact, he always looked quite
muscular, if>> >>>> >> anything.
A smoker, sure. But some people smoke for 60 years and don't die of a>> >>>>>> >>>> >> heart attack. Smoking is unhealthy, but rarely causes you to >>>>>> die of>> >>>> >> heart failure at the age of 45. Anyone who thinks that >>>>>> reads too> >>>> many> >> health clinic brochures.
This being said, it's a good bet his supposed 'overweight' physique> >>>>>> >>>> and> >> smoking had nothing to do with his heart attack. High >>>>>> blood> >>>> pressure,> >> hypertension and tons of stress are what did >>>>>> it.
Thank you for your insight.
You're absolutely correct. He was not overweight. Yes, he was a> >>> >>>>> "big"> > guy but he was taller and had a larger frame but Wes not
heavy> >>> and I've> > seen thousands of photos and he was not
overweight. The> >>> high blood> > pressure, hypertension, stress and >>>>> contrary to what you> >>> say, the> > smoking, I believe, was a
contributing factor.
I'm glad to see that someone pointed out this bit about his "weight> >> >>>>> >>> issue". Raising a large family, crazy travel and the sort adds up >>>>> to> >>> a> > LOT of stress.
Thank you both for your medical evaluation of Wes Montgomery. In> >>
future> medical charts you might want to put an asterisk by at least>
pressure":> >> They> are the same thing.element: Hypertension is another name for "high blood
I'm glad to hear that smoking will "rarely cause you to die of heart>> >>>> >> failure at the age of 45." But opening it up to a broader range of
heart and>> >> blood vessels and remains one of the most *preventable* >>>> causes of> >> heart> disease." You can google to find a few hundred(say from 10-90), "...smoking cigarettes also affects the
pages> >> corroborating that> information.
Those among us without a medical background only know that Wes>> >>
Montgomery died of a heart attack. We can't possibly divine that>> >> >>>> family size or "crazy travel" had anything at all to do with it.
There>> >> are many who find neither of these stressful, but in fact
relaxing.> >> Wes> may well have had a predeliction for cholesterol and >>>> high blood>> >> pressure; statistically, African-Americans do, even
without smoking.> >> Both of these can lead to heard desease.
And now an analysis of what *really* killed Duke Ellington, Audie>> >> >>>> Murphy and Ty Cobb...
Yes. Thanks for the clarification as I have a relative with> >
hypertension and know the difference. My mistake for being redundant>
in my statement as I was trying simply adding to a conversation. As>factor, that would have been the other person who made that remark. I>
for the smoking, I did not suggest that it wasn't a contributing> >
merely pointed out that he was not overweight.You could have made your point without making pompous remarks such as>
"adding asterisks" and "those of us without a medical background".Your points might be salient but really lost with your delivery.
Yes, I could have, but that wouldn't underscore the pomposity of your claims.
I don't like these bogus "facts", you don't like my punctuation. Fair trade. >>
And nobody is "divining" when they talk how large his family was and> >
the stresses associated with it. That is a fact, not a supposition or>
guess. Two of his brothers, Buddy and Monk, who had beeninterviewed> > about Wes having to shoulder a lot with these
responsibilities as a> > husband and father. I guess they were also
"divining".
Millions of people "shoulder responsibilities" without heart desease;>
this is not a confirmation regarding the medical details of his>
passing. Calling this "divining" as the "cause of death" is accurate.
Some people live a life of vastly greater stress and don't have heart>
attacks. It could have been a contributing factor, or it could have>
been irrelevant, just like his consumption of fried chicken, or>
cigarettes. You haven't hardly walked back enough. Along with you two,>
his brothers also aren't medical personnel.
But what would they know. They were only his brothers.
I'm glad you've underscored that: A sibling relationship too confers
medical expertise.
Okay. You need to fulfill some void in your life with your insistence
of persisting in the usage of $7.00 words and loquacious dialogue. If
it makes you feel better, have the last word and you tell all your
friends how clever you are. I promise, I won't respond.
On 2020-05-08 00:24:15 +0000, kyodoco...@gmail.com said:
On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 1:43:57 AM UTC-5, Gerry wrote:
On 2020-05-07 01:10:05 +0000, kyodoco...@gmail.com said:
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 7:04:23 PM UTC-5, Gerry wrote:
On 2020-05-06 17:01:14 +0000, kyodoco...@gmail.com said:
On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 1:08:46 AM UTC-5, reality...@gmail.com wrote:
Wes Montgomery was NOT overweight. I have tons of pictures of him and>>
muscular, if>> >>>> >> anything.significantly overweight. In fact, he always looked quiteif you Google images of him you won't find one where he is> >>>
A smoker, sure. But some people smoke for 60 years and don't die of a>>
reads too> >>>> many> >> health clinic brochures.heart attack. Smoking is unhealthy, but rarely causes you to >>>>>> die of>> >>>> >> heart failure at the age of 45. Anyone who thinks that
This being said, it's a good bet his supposed 'overweight' physique> >>>>>> >>>> and> >> smoking had nothing to do with his heart attack. High >>>>>> blood> >>>> pressure,> >> hypertension and tons of stress are what did >>>>>> it.
Thank you for your insight.
You're absolutely correct. He was not overweight. Yes, he was a> >>> >>>>> "big"> > guy but he was taller and had a larger frame but Wes not
heavy> >>> and I've> > seen thousands of photos and he was not
overweight. The> >>> high blood> > pressure, hypertension, stress and >>>>> contrary to what you> >>> say, the> > smoking, I believe, was a
contributing factor.
I'm glad to see that someone pointed out this bit about his "weight> >> >>>>> >>> issue". Raising a large family, crazy travel and the sort adds up >>>>> to> >>> a> > LOT of stress.
Thank you both for your medical evaluation of Wes Montgomery. In> >> >>>> future> medical charts you might want to put an asterisk by at least> >>>> >> one> element: Hypertension is another name for "high blood
pressure":> >> They> are the same thing.
I'm glad to hear that smoking will "rarely cause you to die of heart>> >>>> >> failure at the age of 45." But opening it up to a broader range of >>>> age>> >> (say from 10-90), "...smoking cigarettes also affects the
heart and>> >> blood vessels and remains one of the most *preventable* >>>> causes of> >> heart> disease." You can google to find a few hundred
pages> >> corroborating that> information.
Those among us without a medical background only know that Wes>> >>
Montgomery died of a heart attack. We can't possibly divine that>> >> >>>> family size or "crazy travel" had anything at all to do with it.
There>> >> are many who find neither of these stressful, but in fact >>>> relaxing.> >> Wes> may well have had a predeliction for cholesterol and >>>> high blood>> >> pressure; statistically, African-Americans do, even
without smoking.> >> Both of these can lead to heard desease.
And now an analysis of what *really* killed Duke Ellington, Audie>> >> >>>> Murphy and Ty Cobb...
Yes. Thanks for the clarification as I have a relative with> >
hypertension and know the difference. My mistake for being redundant>
in my statement as I was trying simply adding to a conversation. As> >>> > for the smoking, I did not suggest that it wasn't a contributing> >factor, that would have been the other person who made that remark. I> >>> > merely pointed out that he was not overweight.
You could have made your point without making pompous remarks such as> >>> > "adding asterisks" and "those of us without a medical background".
Your points might be salient but really lost with your delivery.
Yes, I could have, but that wouldn't underscore the pomposity of your claims.
I don't like these bogus "facts", you don't like my punctuation. Fair trade.
And nobody is "divining" when they talk how large his family was and> > >>> the stresses associated with it. That is a fact, not a supposition or> >>> > guess. Two of his brothers, Buddy and Monk, who had been
interviewed> > about Wes having to shoulder a lot with these
responsibilities as a> > husband and father. I guess they were also
"divining".
Millions of people "shoulder responsibilities" without heart desease;>
this is not a confirmation regarding the medical details of his>
passing. Calling this "divining" as the "cause of death" is accurate.
Some people live a life of vastly greater stress and don't have heart>
attacks. It could have been a contributing factor, or it could have>
been irrelevant, just like his consumption of fried chicken, or>
cigarettes. You haven't hardly walked back enough. Along with you two,>
his brothers also aren't medical personnel.
But what would they know. They were only his brothers.
I'm glad you've underscored that: A sibling relationship too confers
medical expertise.
Okay. You need to fulfill some void in your life with your insistenceThanks, I think it would indeed make me feel better to add this: I've
of persisting in the usage of $7.00 words and loquacious dialogue. If
it makes you feel better, have the last word and you tell all your
friends how clever you are. I promise, I won't respond.
talked big about things I knew little about, or boasted at various
points in my life, and had people call my bluff. I felt foolish and
then I did what you can't: I said I was wrong, and when appropriate, I apologized. It was so much easier than dragging out the pretense. Hell,
I've made friends through that kind of honesty.
What I didn't do was whine about the other guy's punctuation,
rhetorical style, and "$7 dollar words". While on that topic,
"loquacious dialogue", would imply that both us were verbose; I think "monologue" or "soliloquy" was the word you might have been searching
for. And "insistence of persisting": Kind of repetitively repetitive,
no?
Ah, that void in my soul that can only be filled by speaking reasonably
to others has been filled!
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