• REAL BOOK WITH VERSES

    From charlieguitar@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 22 12:11:47 2020
    A while back I was reading about a Real Book that includes the verses to the tunes but can't remember it's name. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

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  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to charlieguitar on Thu Oct 22 17:28:54 2020
    On 2020-10-22 19:11:47 +0000, charlieguitar said:

    A while back I was reading about a Real Book that includes the verses
    to the tunes but can't remember it's name. Does anyone know what I'm
    talking about?

    No, I do not. Was "a while back" like six years or something?

    Sher Publications "New Real Book - Standards" has quite a few of those verses.

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  • From charlieguitar@21:1/5 to Gerry on Thu Oct 22 20:07:07 2020
    On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 8:28:57 PM UTC-4, Gerry wrote:
    On 2020-10-22 19:11:47 +0000, charlieguitar said:

    A while back I was reading about a Real Book that includes the verses
    to the tunes but can't remember it's name. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

    No, I do not. Was "a while back" like six years or something?

    Sher Publications "New Real Book - Standards" has quite a few of those verses.

    it seems like it was within the last three years. The one you mentioned might be it. I'll check it out. Thanks CR

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  • From Joey Goldstein@21:1/5 to charlieguitar on Fri Oct 23 09:55:21 2020
    On 2020-10-22 3:11 p.m., charlieguitar wrote:
    A while back I was reading about a Real Book that includes the verses to the tunes but can't remember it's name. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?


    The Sher Standards Real Book has the verses for most of its charts.

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  • From John@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 23 10:01:32 2020
    Not quite as convenient, but I don't think I've ever googled lyrics and not found them.

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  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to John on Fri Oct 23 22:48:50 2020
    On 2020-10-23 17:01:32 +0000, John said:

    Not quite as convenient, but I don't think I've ever googled lyrics and
    not found them.

    He's not talking about "lyrics" but what use to be called the "verse",
    that introductory part of a Broadway tune that allowed the singer to
    get upstage, the lights to shift, etc. What Ira Gershwin use to call
    "the vest".

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  • From John@21:1/5 to Gerry on Sat Oct 24 10:25:59 2020
    On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 10:48:54 PM UTC-7, Gerry wrote:
    On 2020-10-23 17:01:32 +0000, John said:

    Not quite as convenient, but I don't think I've ever googled lyrics and
    not found them.
    He's not talking about "lyrics" but what use to be called the "verse",
    that introductory part of a Broadway tune that allowed the singer to
    get upstage, the lights to shift, etc. What Ira Gershwin use to call
    "the vest".

    Aha. Just think, I actually learned something. Sorry for the bandwidth.

    John R.

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  • From Gerry@21:1/5 to John on Sat Oct 24 17:34:27 2020
    On 2020-10-24 17:25:59 +0000, John said:

    On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 10:48:54 PM UTC-7, Gerry wrote:
    On 2020-10-23 17:01:32 +0000, John said:

    Not quite as convenient, but I don't think I've ever googled lyrics and
    not found them.
    He's not talking about "lyrics" but what use to be called the "verse",
    that introductory part of a Broadway tune that allowed the singer to
    get upstage, the lights to shift, etc. What Ira Gershwin use to call
    "the vest".

    Aha. Just think, I actually learned something. Sorry for the bandwidth.

    For well over 70 years folk songs and the pop and rock songs that
    followed them used the terms "verse" for the part of the lyric this
    isn't repeated, and "chorus" for the repeated part. Your mistake was
    only in the narrow context of Broadway tunes of a certain period. I
    think they did away with this by the 60's.

    The reason Ira Gershwin called it "the vest" was this: It's not a
    jacket, it's not a shirt, what the hell it is it? It's the totally
    superflous and unnecessary part.

    And as sheet music proves, it is as thoroughly forgotten as a publisher
    can make it.

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  • From charlieguitar@21:1/5 to Gerry on Sun Oct 25 07:49:55 2020
    On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 11:33:11 PM UTC-4, Gerry wrote:
    On 2020-10-24 17:25:59 +0000, John said:

    On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 10:48:54 PM UTC-7, Gerry wrote:
    On 2020-10-23 17:01:32 +0000, John said:

    Not quite as convenient, but I don't think I've ever googled lyrics and >>> not found them.
    He's not talking about "lyrics" but what use to be called the "verse",
    that introductory part of a Broadway tune that allowed the singer to
    get upstage, the lights to shift, etc. What Ira Gershwin use to call
    "the vest".

    Aha. Just think, I actually learned something. Sorry for the bandwidth.
    For well over 70 years folk songs and the pop and rock songs that
    followed them used the terms "verse" for the part of the lyric this
    isn't repeated, and "chorus" for the repeated part. Your mistake was
    only in the narrow context of Broadway tunes of a certain period. I
    think they did away with this by the 60's.

    The reason Ira Gershwin called it "the vest" was this: It's not a
    jacket, it's not a shirt, what the hell it is it? It's the totally superflous and unnecessary part.

    And as sheet music proves, it is as thoroughly forgotten as a publisher
    can make it.
    They were show tunes remember and the verse was a part of the the play that usually introduced whatever was being expressed in the main body of the tune. Sometimes the verse was better than the tune that it introduced. I remember years ago there was a
    lot of argument in this group as to whether they should be called verses at all (how could there be a second verse etc.). Anyway thanks to Gerry, Joey (long time no see)and John for the advice on books. Charlie

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  • From dunlop212@21:1/5 to charlieguitar on Fri Dec 4 12:39:47 2020
    On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 10:49:57 AM UTC-4, charlieguitar wrote:
    On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 11:33:11 PM UTC-4, Gerry wrote:
    On 2020-10-24 17:25:59 +0000, John said:

    On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 10:48:54 PM UTC-7, Gerry wrote:
    On 2020-10-23 17:01:32 +0000, John said:

    Not quite as convenient, but I don't think I've ever googled lyrics and
    not found them.
    He's not talking about "lyrics" but what use to be called the "verse", >> that introductory part of a Broadway tune that allowed the singer to
    get upstage, the lights to shift, etc. What Ira Gershwin use to call
    "the vest".

    Aha. Just think, I actually learned something. Sorry for the bandwidth.
    For well over 70 years folk songs and the pop and rock songs that
    followed them used the terms "verse" for the part of the lyric this
    isn't repeated, and "chorus" for the repeated part. Your mistake was
    only in the narrow context of Broadway tunes of a certain period. I
    think they did away with this by the 60's.

    The reason Ira Gershwin called it "the vest" was this: It's not a
    jacket, it's not a shirt, what the hell it is it? It's the totally superflous and unnecessary part.

    And as sheet music proves, it is as thoroughly forgotten as a publisher can make it.
    They were show tunes remember and the verse was a part of the the play that usually introduced whatever was being expressed in the main body of the tune. Sometimes the verse was better than the tune that it introduced. I remember years ago there was a
    lot of argument in this group as to whether they should be called verses at all (how could there be a second verse etc.). Anyway thanks to Gerry, Joey (long time no see)and John for the advice on books. Charlie

    https://www.amazon.com/Just-Standards-Real-Book-Fakebook/dp/0757901611 (the "Just Jazz" one has the verses too).
    Pretty expensive though. I bought them years ago because of the big print and alternate changes.

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  • From ionahoopii@gmail.com@21:1/5 to charlieguitar on Wed Dec 30 16:41:37 2020
    On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 3:11:50 PM UTC-4, charlieguitar wrote:
    A while back I was reading about a Real Book that includes the verses to the tunes but can't remember it's name. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

    I have an old fakebook that I bought in the 80s that has the verses. It’s my favorite fakebook, and while I lost the cover many years ago, it was called something like America’s Favorite Standards. It’s gold.

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