• Re: Schubert Sopranos

    From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Sat Oct 15 17:50:02 2022
    On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 10:10:02 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    Wasn't this Seefried's earliest recording?:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=1944+ariadne+auf+naxos+seefried&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=657&ei=zVRLY4rTI4e6kPIPq8OoyAQ&iflsig=AJiK0e8AAAAAY0ti3f2iiwsR2BWZ2xFbV5uf7FqcHfkp&ved=0ahUKEwjK7fe1w-P6AhUHHUQIHashCkkQ4dUDCAc&uact=5&oq=1944+ariadne+auf+
    naxos+seefried&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoICAAQgAQQsQM6BQgAEIAEOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToGCAAQBRAeOgYIABAIEB5QAFi6VWCtVmgAcAB4AIAB6gKIAYEbkgEJMTguMTIuMC4xmAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWc&sclient=img#imgrc=necOyxtrxJZN0M

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  • From drh8h@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Sat Oct 15 19:55:25 2022
    For any humans who might be interested, there was a Handel "Laudate pueri" recording in which she participated, dated 1943. It was reissued in the two-lp "The Art of Irmgard Seefried" on HMV Treasury and Seraphim. I believe a recording attributed to the
    same year was issued in a CRQ Edition cd devoted to her.

    DH

    On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 8:50:04 PM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 10:10:02 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear
    Wasn't this Seefried's earliest recording?:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=1944+ariadne+auf+naxos+seefried&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=657&ei=zVRLY4rTI4e6kPIPq8OoyAQ&iflsig=AJiK0e8AAAAAY0ti3f2iiwsR2BWZ2xFbV5uf7FqcHfkp&ved=0ahUKEwjK7fe1w-P6AhUHHUQIHashCkkQ4dUDCAc&uact=5&oq=1944+ariadne+auf+
    naxos+seefried&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoICAAQgAQQsQM6BQgAEIAEOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToGCAAQBRAeOgYIABAIEB5QAFi6VWCtVmgAcAB4AIAB6gKIAYEbkgEJMTguMTIuMC4xmAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWc&sclient=img#imgrc=necOyxtrxJZN0M

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 15 20:40:41 2022
    On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 7:55:28 PM UTC-7, drh8h wrote:
    For any humans who might be interested, there was a Handel "Laudate pueri" recording in which she participated, dated 1943. It was reissued in the two-lp "The Art of Irmgard Seefried" on HMV Treasury and Seraphim. I believe a recording attributed to
    the same year was issued in a CRQ Edition cd devoted to her.

    DH

    The interview she gave Lanfranco Rasponi was included in his book THE LAST PRIMA DONNAS:

    https://books.google.com/books?newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&id=Dxo6AQAAIAAJ&dq=rasponi+last+prima+donnas&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=seefried

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Sat Oct 15 21:37:09 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    Concerning Schwarzkopf, according to the following:

    - I first heard Irmgard Seefried in the 1950s and 1960s singing lieder recitals in NYC. They were transforming superior to Schwartzkopf in their musicality, voice and interpretations. Her voice had a golden silver quality with a dark underpinning. The
    true quality which I heard in Town Hall and the Hunter College auditorium has never really been captured on record.
    What impressed everybody was the deep emotional and natural communication of her singing-something that Schwartzkopf -whom I heard in her NYC lieder debut - never achieved in concert...

    https://www.amazon.com/Irmgard-Seefried-Lieder/dp/B000M05VNE

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Fri Oct 21 18:16:30 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    (Y. upload):

    "Ave Maria - Esther Rethy - Grammophon 78 Rpm"

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Mon Oct 24 10:39:20 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rec.music.classical.recordings/c/JTajRg_39Do/m/THcriIPxIh4J

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Mon Oct 24 19:20:07 2022
    On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:16:32 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear
    (Y. upload):

    "Ave Maria - Esther Rethy - Grammophon 78 Rpm"

    Here is a clearer recording of that:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6kwcXHO1pk

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Tue Oct 25 07:51:30 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    (2022 Y. upload):

    "Erika Köth: "Ave Maria""

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Tue Oct 25 08:12:47 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    Seinemeyer's "Lied der Mignon III":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7DpqxGVjCE&list=OLAK5uy_mMdtjHj1CL_0GfoBc01ms3ZqJ83fvCqyw&index=38

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Tue Oct 25 08:17:25 2022
    On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 8:12:50 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear
    Seinemeyer's "Lied der Mignon III":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7DpqxGVjCE&list=OLAK5uy_mMdtjHj1CL_0GfoBc01ms3ZqJ83fvCqyw&index=38

    Maria Muller also recorded that:

    https://open.spotify.com/track/6WZk2VPxDmvggM59j8MH4P

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Tue Oct 25 08:27:44 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    (Y. upload):

    "Friederike Sailer: "Die Forelle""

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Tue Oct 25 08:59:31 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    (Y. upload):

    "Ilse Hollweg: "Die Forelle""

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Tue Nov 1 09:13:09 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    (Y. upload0:

    "ave maria, anneliese R"

    [Schubert's AVE MARIA sung by Anneliese Rothenberger}

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 4 19:19:03 2022
    On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 7:55:28 PM UTC-7, drh8h wrote:
    For any humans who might be interested, there was a Handel "Laudate pueri" recording in which she participated, dated 1943. It was reissued in the two-lp "The Art of Irmgard Seefried" on HMV Treasury and Seraphim. I believe a recording attributed to
    the same year was issued in a CRQ Edition cd devoted to her.

    DH
    On Saturday, October 15, 2022 at 8:50:04 PM UTC-4, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 10:10:02 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear
    Wasn't this Seefried's earliest recording?:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=1944+ariadne+auf+naxos+seefried&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=657&ei=zVRLY4rTI4e6kPIPq8OoyAQ&iflsig=AJiK0e8AAAAAY0ti3f2iiwsR2BWZ2xFbV5uf7FqcHfkp&ved=0ahUKEwjK7fe1w-P6AhUHHUQIHashCkkQ4dUDCAc&uact=5&oq=1944+ariadne+auf+
    naxos+seefried&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoICAAQgAQQsQM6BQgAEIAEOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToGCAAQBRAeOgYIABAIEB5QAFi6VWCtVmgAcAB4AIAB6gKIAYEbkgEJMTguMTIuMC4xmAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWc&sclient=img#imgrc=necOyxtrxJZN0M

    Seefried in Mahler 4:

    https://www.wfmt.com/2022/11/04/thomson-milhaud-and-mahler

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Sat Nov 5 08:10:00 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    (2022 Y. upload):

    "Mimi Coertse sings "An die musik" by Schubert."

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Sat Nov 5 08:47:39 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    (Y. upload):

    "Elisabeth Söderstöm sings Schubert's Goethe Lieder!"

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Thu Dec 29 22:51:41 2022
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    Rothenberger's Schubert cd:

    https://www.amazon.com/Schubert-Rosamunde-Lieder-Cologne-Collection/dp/B00H87JVP8

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Sat Apr 15 22:08:01 2023
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    (2023 Y. upload):

    "KIRSTEN FLAGSTAD SINGS FRUHLINGSGLAUBE franz schubert 1955"

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Sun Apr 16 12:53:35 2023
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    (Y. upload - also read the 800+ Comments):

    "Schubert - Ave Maria - Deanna Durbin"

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Wed Apr 26 20:32:31 2023
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    "Ave Maria" (Clara Ebers):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9cWYWHMsww&list=OLAK5uy_lBWEGYuh_ilIvFOszFYDYHfJCSD4c1vxc

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Bill Staab on Sat Apr 29 01:07:44 2023
    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 3:17:30 PM UTC-7, Bill Staab wrote:
    Surely Irmgard Seefried was perhaps the absolute finest of
    Schubert sopranos in the postwar era, singing with Gerald Moore
    just after the war and then mostly with Erik Werba. Many recordings
    on EMI and then mostly on DGG and live performances on Orfeo from
    Salzburg. Interpretively more perceptive than Ameling, more
    natural than Schwarzkopf, and with superlative diction and
    as expressive as any Schubert soprano one can hear

    Tebaldi sings "Ave Maria":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_UGwxfY1oI

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