• Re: Film music

    From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Wed Oct 12 09:10:55 2022
    On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 9:47:04 AM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 12:13:50 AM UTC-8, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Sunday, February 14, 2010 at 6:50:15 AM UTC-10, William Sommerwerck wrote:
    Are there any film scores, of the past, but more importantly
    some newer ones, that you'd say have a higher quality than
    the usual Hollywood fare? Equal in value as some classical
    pieces?
    The Hollywood film score has suffered a terrible decline over the past 20 years. The basic problem is that composers are largely writing "all music,
    all the time" scores, with 75% or more of the running time musically backed.
    This isn't new; that grand master of excess scoring, Max Steiner, was criticized for it during his life. * The first movie I remember with "too much" music was "Conehead the Barbiturate", scored by Basil Pouledoris. As I
    walked out of the theater, a woman's comment to her boyfriend mirrored my own thoughts -- "I've never seen a movie with so much music."
    The question is... Why?
    Bernard Herrmann laid down a number of rules about film scoring. Only one of
    them is invalid -- "The music should make an emotional connection between the audience and what's happening on the screen." -- but it helps us understand the current musical excess.
    In my view, there are two broad schools of directing -- American and European. American directing has traditionally been in-your-face, with intense involvement with the story and characters. European directing has usually been cooler, with less-explicit involvement. ** For reasons I don't
    understand, American directing has been moving in the direction of European,
    with an increasingly cool and even "detached" approach. Martin Scorsese's work gives a good example: "The Departed" is a much less immediately involving film than "GoodFellas" (to the extent that Jack Nicholson's typically emphatic performance looks quite out of place), though they're separated by only 16 years.
    (Y. upload):

    "How Martin Scorsese Uses Music"

    (Y. upload):

    "The Music of Satyajit Ray"

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Dinora on Fri Oct 14 09:15:51 2022
    On Sunday, February 14, 2010 at 5:26:14 AM UTC-8, Dinora wrote:
    Are there any film scores, of the past, but more importantly some
    newer ones, that you'd say have a higher quality than the usual
    Hollywood fare? Equal in value as some classical pieces?

    Wagner's influence:

    http://wagnertripping.blogspot.com/2013/12/wagners-influence-on-movie-music.html

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Dinora on Fri Oct 14 09:21:11 2022
    On Sunday, February 14, 2010 at 5:26:14 AM UTC-8, Dinora wrote:
    Are there any film scores, of the past, but more importantly some
    newer ones, that you'd say have a higher quality than the usual
    Hollywood fare? Equal in value as some classical pieces?

    Ever heard of FILM SCORE?:

    https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/daily/index.cfm

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Dinora on Mon Oct 31 15:24:46 2022
    On Sunday, February 14, 2010 at 5:26:14 AM UTC-8, Dinora wrote:
    Are there any film scores, of the past, but more importantly some
    newer ones, that you'd say have a higher quality than the usual
    Hollywood fare? Equal in value as some classical pieces?

    https://www.musicgrotto.com/best-film-composers/

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Dinora on Fri May 5 12:28:21 2023
    On Sunday, February 14, 2010 at 5:26:14 AM UTC-8, Dinora wrote:
    Are there any film scores, of the past, but more importantly some
    newer ones, that you'd say have a higher quality than the usual
    Hollywood fare? Equal in value as some classical pieces?

    https://groups.google.com/u/1/g/rec.arts.movies.past-films/c/2yVM_ARdnFM

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