(2023 Y. upload)
(2023 Y. upload)
Your post prompted me to listen to some late Arrau, and these lines of that Shakespeare sonnet came to mind.
In me thou see'st the glowing of such fire
That on the ashes of his youth doth lie,
I like to watch flames, and I like the glowing embers too.
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 03:24:48 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:alertness.
(2023 Y. upload)
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their interpretations lose sharpness, energy,
Henk
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 03:24:48 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:alertness.
(2023 Y. upload)
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their interpretations lose sharpness, energy,
Henk
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 03:24:48 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:alertness.
(2023 Y. upload)
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their interpretations lose sharpness, energy,
Henk
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
HT a formulé ce vendredi :
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists soundThey do not "lose" anything!... It seems normal to me that the fact of deepening, of digging their vision of the work involves them to
far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
decrease the tempo of it...
Since when is speed synonymous with quality ?!
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 23:05:15 UTC+2 schreef MELMOTH:routinelike.
HT a formulé ce vendredi :
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing linkThey do not "lose" anything!... It seems normal to me that the fact of
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound >>> far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their
interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
deepening, of digging their vision of the work involves them to
decrease the tempo of it...
Since when is speed synonymous with quality ?!
Do you really think that, for example, old Rubinstein's De Falla is 'deeper' than the younger version?
If so, how do you define 'deep'?
In general, speed isn't synonymous with quality. In certain circumstances, it may be a quality. When you play a Brahms Paganini étude, like ABM. However, my problem with the older ABM version isn't the speed, but the lack of purpose. It sounds
In my experience, age rarely creates deeper minds. The 'deepest' minds are young. They haven't yet found a convenient answer to their (musical or otherwise) questions.
Henk
On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 10:08:41 AM UTC+1, HT wrote:energy, alertness.
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 03:24:48 UTC+2 schreef gggg gggg:
(2023 Y. upload)
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their interpretations lose sharpness,
HenkYour post prompted me to listen to some late Arrau, and these lines of that Shakespeare sonnet came to mind.
In me thou see'st the glowing of such fire
That on the ashes of his youth doth lie,
I like to watch flames, and I like the glowing embers too.
On 4/28/2023 5:49 PM, HT wrote:routinelike.
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 23:05:15 UTC+2 schreef MELMOTH:
HT a formulé ce vendredi :
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing link >>> (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists soundThey do not "lose" anything!... It seems normal to me that the fact of
far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their
interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
deepening, of digging their vision of the work involves them to
decrease the tempo of it...
Since when is speed synonymous with quality ?!
Do you really think that, for example, old Rubinstein's De Falla is 'deeper' than the younger version?
If so, how do you define 'deep'?
In general, speed isn't synonymous with quality. In certain circumstances, it may be a quality. When you play a Brahms Paganini étude, like ABM. However, my problem with the older ABM version isn't the speed, but the lack of purpose. It sounds
any other art form. After rejecting the idea that "a good painting is one that has any blue in it," and "a good painting is one that does what the artist intends it to do (rejected by asking what if the artist wants to paint a bad painting), the semesterIn my experience, age rarely creates deeper minds. The 'deepest' minds are young. They haven't yet found a convenient answer to their (musical or otherwise) questions.
HenkI can clear this up easily. As an undergraduate, I took a course titled "Philosophy of the Arts." The main thing we did during the course of the semester was to figure out what constitutes "good" art. We focused on painting, but the idea translates to
A good painting is one that satisfies certain, not necessarily specified, criteria about what constitutes good painting."
Hope that helps.
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:routinelike.
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:44:17 AM UTC+1, HT wrote:
Op zaterdag 29 april 2023 om 00:16:12 UTC+2 schreef Frank Berger:
On 4/28/2023 5:49 PM, HT wrote:
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 23:05:15 UTC+2 schreef MELMOTH:
HT a formulé ce vendredi :
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing linkThey do not "lose" anything!... It seems normal to me that the fact of
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound
far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their >>> interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
deepening, of digging their vision of the work involves them to
decrease the tempo of it...
Since when is speed synonymous with quality ?!
Do you really think that, for example, old Rubinstein's De Falla is 'deeper' than the younger version?
If so, how do you define 'deep'?
In general, speed isn't synonymous with quality. In certain circumstances, it may be a quality. When you play a Brahms Paganini étude, like ABM. However, my problem with the older ABM version isn't the speed, but the lack of purpose. It sounds
translates to any other art form. After rejecting the idea that "a good painting is one that has any blue in it," and "a good painting is one that does what the artist intends it to do (rejected by asking what if the artist wants to paint a bad painting),In my experience, age rarely creates deeper minds. The 'deepest' minds are young. They haven't yet found a convenient answer to their (musical or otherwise) questions.
HenkI can clear this up easily. As an undergraduate, I took a course titled "Philosophy of the Arts." The main thing we did during the course of the semester was to figure out what constitutes "good" art. We focused on painting, but the idea
looking into someone's soul is deeper than looking into someone's eyes". The problem is why we believe that the soul is closer to how someone is than the eyes. The problem with Melmoth's 'deep' is why age would bring us closer to how the music is.A good painting is one that satisfies certain, not necessarily specified, criteria about what constitutes good painting."
Hope that helps.There is a slight difference. 'Good' refers to how something should be. For example, "you are a good boy". Hence, the criteria you mention. 'Deep' refers to being closer to how things are - and therefore having a better insight. For example, "
And here’s Horowitz final Hamburg concert - I remember a good Dichter SprichtHenkCherkassky’s 1992 Symphonic Etudes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FBhXCTqXh44
Op zaterdag 29 april 2023 om 00:16:12 UTC+2 schreef Frank Berger:routinelike.
On 4/28/2023 5:49 PM, HT wrote:
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 23:05:15 UTC+2 schreef MELMOTH:
HT a formulé ce vendredi :
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing link >>> (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists soundThey do not "lose" anything!... It seems normal to me that the fact of >> deepening, of digging their vision of the work involves them to
far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their
interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
decrease the tempo of it...
Since when is speed synonymous with quality ?!
Do you really think that, for example, old Rubinstein's De Falla is 'deeper' than the younger version?
If so, how do you define 'deep'?
In general, speed isn't synonymous with quality. In certain circumstances, it may be a quality. When you play a Brahms Paganini étude, like ABM. However, my problem with the older ABM version isn't the speed, but the lack of purpose. It sounds
to any other art form. After rejecting the idea that "a good painting is one that has any blue in it," and "a good painting is one that does what the artist intends it to do (rejected by asking what if the artist wants to paint a bad painting), theIn my experience, age rarely creates deeper minds. The 'deepest' minds are young. They haven't yet found a convenient answer to their (musical or otherwise) questions.
HenkI can clear this up easily. As an undergraduate, I took a course titled "Philosophy of the Arts." The main thing we did during the course of the semester was to figure out what constitutes "good" art. We focused on painting, but the idea translates
into someone's soul is deeper than looking into someone's eyes". The problem is why we believe that the soul is closer to how someone is than the eyes. The problem with Melmoth's 'deep' is why age would bring us closer to how the music is.A good painting is one that satisfies certain, not necessarily specified, criteria about what constitutes good painting."
Hope that helps.There is a slight difference. 'Good' refers to how something should be. For example, "you are a good boy". Hence, the criteria you mention. 'Deep' refers to being closer to how things are - and therefore having a better insight. For example, "looking
Henk
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:44:17 AM UTC+1, HT wrote:routinelike.
Op zaterdag 29 april 2023 om 00:16:12 UTC+2 schreef Frank Berger:
On 4/28/2023 5:49 PM, HT wrote:
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 23:05:15 UTC+2 schreef MELMOTH:
HT a formulé ce vendredi :
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing linkThey do not "lose" anything!... It seems normal to me that the fact of
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound
far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their >>> interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
deepening, of digging their vision of the work involves them to
decrease the tempo of it...
Since when is speed synonymous with quality ?!
Do you really think that, for example, old Rubinstein's De Falla is 'deeper' than the younger version?
If so, how do you define 'deep'?
In general, speed isn't synonymous with quality. In certain circumstances, it may be a quality. When you play a Brahms Paganini étude, like ABM. However, my problem with the older ABM version isn't the speed, but the lack of purpose. It sounds
to any other art form. After rejecting the idea that "a good painting is one that has any blue in it," and "a good painting is one that does what the artist intends it to do (rejected by asking what if the artist wants to paint a bad painting), theIn my experience, age rarely creates deeper minds. The 'deepest' minds are young. They haven't yet found a convenient answer to their (musical or otherwise) questions.
HenkI can clear this up easily. As an undergraduate, I took a course titled "Philosophy of the Arts." The main thing we did during the course of the semester was to figure out what constitutes "good" art. We focused on painting, but the idea translates
into someone's soul is deeper than looking into someone's eyes". The problem is why we believe that the soul is closer to how someone is than the eyes. The problem with Melmoth's 'deep' is why age would bring us closer to how the music is.A good painting is one that satisfies certain, not necessarily specified, criteria about what constitutes good painting."
Hope that helps.There is a slight difference. 'Good' refers to how something should be. For example, "you are a good boy". Hence, the criteria you mention. 'Deep' refers to being closer to how things are - and therefore having a better insight. For example, "looking
HenkCherkassky’s 1992 Symphonic Etudes
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:44:17 AM UTC+1, HT wrote:routinelike.
Op zaterdag 29 april 2023 om 00:16:12 UTC+2 schreef Frank Berger:
On 4/28/2023 5:49 PM, HT wrote:
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 23:05:15 UTC+2 schreef MELMOTH:
HT a formulé ce vendredi :
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing linkThey do not "lose" anything!... It seems normal to me that the fact of
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound
far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their >>> interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
deepening, of digging their vision of the work involves them to
decrease the tempo of it...
Since when is speed synonymous with quality ?!
Do you really think that, for example, old Rubinstein's De Falla is 'deeper' than the younger version?
If so, how do you define 'deep'?
In general, speed isn't synonymous with quality. In certain circumstances, it may be a quality. When you play a Brahms Paganini étude, like ABM. However, my problem with the older ABM version isn't the speed, but the lack of purpose. It sounds
to any other art form. After rejecting the idea that "a good painting is one that has any blue in it," and "a good painting is one that does what the artist intends it to do (rejected by asking what if the artist wants to paint a bad painting), theIn my experience, age rarely creates deeper minds. The 'deepest' minds are young. They haven't yet found a convenient answer to their (musical or otherwise) questions.
HenkI can clear this up easily. As an undergraduate, I took a course titled "Philosophy of the Arts." The main thing we did during the course of the semester was to figure out what constitutes "good" art. We focused on painting, but the idea translates
into someone's soul is deeper than looking into someone's eyes". The problem is why we believe that the soul is closer to how someone is than the eyes. The problem with Melmoth's 'deep' is why age would bring us closer to how the music is.A good painting is one that satisfies certain, not necessarily specified, criteria about what constitutes good painting."
Hope that helps.There is a slight difference. 'Good' refers to how something should be. For example, "you are a good boy". Hence, the criteria you mention. 'Deep' refers to being closer to how things are - and therefore having a better insight. For example, "looking
HenkCherkassky’s 1992 Symphonic Etudes
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:46:00 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:sounds routinelike.
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:39:06 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:44:17 AM UTC+1, HT wrote:
Op zaterdag 29 april 2023 om 00:16:12 UTC+2 schreef Frank Berger:
On 4/28/2023 5:49 PM, HT wrote:
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 23:05:15 UTC+2 schreef MELMOTH:
HT a formulé ce vendredi :
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing linkThey do not "lose" anything!... It seems normal to me that the fact of
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound
far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their
interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
deepening, of digging their vision of the work involves them to >> decrease the tempo of it...
Since when is speed synonymous with quality ?!
Do you really think that, for example, old Rubinstein's De Falla is 'deeper' than the younger version?
If so, how do you define 'deep'?
In general, speed isn't synonymous with quality. In certain circumstances, it may be a quality. When you play a Brahms Paganini étude, like ABM. However, my problem with the older ABM version isn't the speed, but the lack of purpose. It
translates to any other art form. After rejecting the idea that "a good painting is one that has any blue in it," and "a good painting is one that does what the artist intends it to do (rejected by asking what if the artist wants to paint a bad painting),In my experience, age rarely creates deeper minds. The 'deepest' minds are young. They haven't yet found a convenient answer to their (musical or otherwise) questions.
HenkI can clear this up easily. As an undergraduate, I took a course titled "Philosophy of the Arts." The main thing we did during the course of the semester was to figure out what constitutes "good" art. We focused on painting, but the idea
looking into someone's soul is deeper than looking into someone's eyes". The problem is why we believe that the soul is closer to how someone is than the eyes. The problem with Melmoth's 'deep' is why age would bring us closer to how the music is.A good painting is one that satisfies certain, not necessarily specified, criteria about what constitutes good painting."
Hope that helps.There is a slight difference. 'Good' refers to how something should be. For example, "you are a good boy". Hence, the criteria you mention. 'Deep' refers to being closer to how things are - and therefore having a better insight. For example, "
And here’s Horowitz final Hamburg concert - I remember a good Dichter SprichtHenkCherkassky’s 1992 Symphonic Etudes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FBhXCTqXh44This is Leonhardt’s final commercially released recording - and it’s a doozy. Forqueray.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mzyEQg3T6E8&pp=ygUURm9ycXVlcmF5IGxlb25oYXJkdCA%3DAnd Geoffrey Douglas Madge’s Art of the Fugue
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n4OB54229kiuUk1-bBCqhrVE8o-yFg01I
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:routinelike.
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:44:17 AM UTC+1, HT wrote:
Op zaterdag 29 april 2023 om 00:16:12 UTC+2 schreef Frank Berger:
On 4/28/2023 5:49 PM, HT wrote:
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 23:05:15 UTC+2 schreef MELMOTH:
HT a formulé ce vendredi :
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing linkThey do not "lose" anything!... It seems normal to me that the fact of
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound
far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their >>> interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
deepening, of digging their vision of the work involves them to
decrease the tempo of it...
Since when is speed synonymous with quality ?!
Do you really think that, for example, old Rubinstein's De Falla is 'deeper' than the younger version?
If so, how do you define 'deep'?
In general, speed isn't synonymous with quality. In certain circumstances, it may be a quality. When you play a Brahms Paganini étude, like ABM. However, my problem with the older ABM version isn't the speed, but the lack of purpose. It sounds
translates to any other art form. After rejecting the idea that "a good painting is one that has any blue in it," and "a good painting is one that does what the artist intends it to do (rejected by asking what if the artist wants to paint a bad painting),In my experience, age rarely creates deeper minds. The 'deepest' minds are young. They haven't yet found a convenient answer to their (musical or otherwise) questions.
HenkI can clear this up easily. As an undergraduate, I took a course titled "Philosophy of the Arts." The main thing we did during the course of the semester was to figure out what constitutes "good" art. We focused on painting, but the idea
looking into someone's soul is deeper than looking into someone's eyes". The problem is why we believe that the soul is closer to how someone is than the eyes. The problem with Melmoth's 'deep' is why age would bring us closer to how the music is.A good painting is one that satisfies certain, not necessarily specified, criteria about what constitutes good painting."
Hope that helps.There is a slight difference. 'Good' refers to how something should be. For example, "you are a good boy". Hence, the criteria you mention. 'Deep' refers to being closer to how things are - and therefore having a better insight. For example, "
And here’s Horowitz final Hamburg concert - I remember a good Dichter SprichtHenkCherkassky’s 1992 Symphonic Etudes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FBhXCTqXh44
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:46:00 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:sounds routinelike.
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:39:06 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:44:17 AM UTC+1, HT wrote:
Op zaterdag 29 april 2023 om 00:16:12 UTC+2 schreef Frank Berger:
On 4/28/2023 5:49 PM, HT wrote:
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 23:05:15 UTC+2 schreef MELMOTH:
HT a formulé ce vendredi :
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing linkThey do not "lose" anything!... It seems normal to me that the fact of
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound
far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their
interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
deepening, of digging their vision of the work involves them to >> decrease the tempo of it...
Since when is speed synonymous with quality ?!
Do you really think that, for example, old Rubinstein's De Falla is 'deeper' than the younger version?
If so, how do you define 'deep'?
In general, speed isn't synonymous with quality. In certain circumstances, it may be a quality. When you play a Brahms Paganini étude, like ABM. However, my problem with the older ABM version isn't the speed, but the lack of purpose. It
translates to any other art form. After rejecting the idea that "a good painting is one that has any blue in it," and "a good painting is one that does what the artist intends it to do (rejected by asking what if the artist wants to paint a bad painting),In my experience, age rarely creates deeper minds. The 'deepest' minds are young. They haven't yet found a convenient answer to their (musical or otherwise) questions.
HenkI can clear this up easily. As an undergraduate, I took a course titled "Philosophy of the Arts." The main thing we did during the course of the semester was to figure out what constitutes "good" art. We focused on painting, but the idea
looking into someone's soul is deeper than looking into someone's eyes". The problem is why we believe that the soul is closer to how someone is than the eyes. The problem with Melmoth's 'deep' is why age would bring us closer to how the music is.A good painting is one that satisfies certain, not necessarily specified, criteria about what constitutes good painting."
Hope that helps.There is a slight difference. 'Good' refers to how something should be. For example, "you are a good boy". Hence, the criteria you mention. 'Deep' refers to being closer to how things are - and therefore having a better insight. For example, "
And here’s Horowitz final Hamburg concert - I remember a good Dichter SprichtHenkCherkassky’s 1992 Symphonic Etudes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FBhXCTqXh44This is Leonhardt’s final commercially released recording - and it’s a doozy. Forqueray.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mzyEQg3T6E8&pp=ygUURm9ycXVlcmF5IGxlb25oYXJkdCA%3DAnd Geoffrey Douglas Madge’s Art of the Fugue
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n4OB54229kiuUk1-bBCqhrVE8o-yFg01I
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:39:06 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:sounds routinelike.
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:44:17 AM UTC+1, HT wrote:
Op zaterdag 29 april 2023 om 00:16:12 UTC+2 schreef Frank Berger:
On 4/28/2023 5:49 PM, HT wrote:
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 23:05:15 UTC+2 schreef MELMOTH:
HT a formulé ce vendredi :
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing linkThey do not "lose" anything!... It seems normal to me that the fact of
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound
far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their
interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
deepening, of digging their vision of the work involves them to >> decrease the tempo of it...
Since when is speed synonymous with quality ?!
Do you really think that, for example, old Rubinstein's De Falla is 'deeper' than the younger version?
If so, how do you define 'deep'?
In general, speed isn't synonymous with quality. In certain circumstances, it may be a quality. When you play a Brahms Paganini étude, like ABM. However, my problem with the older ABM version isn't the speed, but the lack of purpose. It
translates to any other art form. After rejecting the idea that "a good painting is one that has any blue in it," and "a good painting is one that does what the artist intends it to do (rejected by asking what if the artist wants to paint a bad painting),In my experience, age rarely creates deeper minds. The 'deepest' minds are young. They haven't yet found a convenient answer to their (musical or otherwise) questions.
HenkI can clear this up easily. As an undergraduate, I took a course titled "Philosophy of the Arts." The main thing we did during the course of the semester was to figure out what constitutes "good" art. We focused on painting, but the idea
looking into someone's soul is deeper than looking into someone's eyes". The problem is why we believe that the soul is closer to how someone is than the eyes. The problem with Melmoth's 'deep' is why age would bring us closer to how the music is.A good painting is one that satisfies certain, not necessarily specified, criteria about what constitutes good painting."
Hope that helps.There is a slight difference. 'Good' refers to how something should be. For example, "you are a good boy". Hence, the criteria you mention. 'Deep' refers to being closer to how things are - and therefore having a better insight. For example, "
And here’s Horowitz final Hamburg concert - I remember a good Dichter SprichtHenkCherkassky’s 1992 Symphonic Etudes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FBhXCTqXh44This is Leonhardt’s final commercially released recording - and it’s a doozy. Forqueray.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mzyEQg3T6E8&pp=ygUURm9ycXVlcmF5IGxlb25oYXJkdCA%3D
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:52:41 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:sounds routinelike.
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:46:00 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:39:06 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:44:17 AM UTC+1, HT wrote:
Op zaterdag 29 april 2023 om 00:16:12 UTC+2 schreef Frank Berger:
On 4/28/2023 5:49 PM, HT wrote:
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 23:05:15 UTC+2 schreef MELMOTH:
HT a formulé ce vendredi :
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing linkThey do not "lose" anything!... It seems normal to me that the fact of
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound
far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their
interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
deepening, of digging their vision of the work involves them to
decrease the tempo of it...
Since when is speed synonymous with quality ?!
Do you really think that, for example, old Rubinstein's De Falla is 'deeper' than the younger version?
If so, how do you define 'deep'?
In general, speed isn't synonymous with quality. In certain circumstances, it may be a quality. When you play a Brahms Paganini étude, like ABM. However, my problem with the older ABM version isn't the speed, but the lack of purpose. It
translates to any other art form. After rejecting the idea that "a good painting is one that has any blue in it," and "a good painting is one that does what the artist intends it to do (rejected by asking what if the artist wants to paint a bad painting),In my experience, age rarely creates deeper minds. The 'deepest' minds are young. They haven't yet found a convenient answer to their (musical or otherwise) questions.
HenkI can clear this up easily. As an undergraduate, I took a course titled "Philosophy of the Arts." The main thing we did during the course of the semester was to figure out what constitutes "good" art. We focused on painting, but the idea
looking into someone's soul is deeper than looking into someone's eyes". The problem is why we believe that the soul is closer to how someone is than the eyes. The problem with Melmoth's 'deep' is why age would bring us closer to how the music is.A good painting is one that satisfies certain, not necessarily specified, criteria about what constitutes good painting."
Hope that helps.There is a slight difference. 'Good' refers to how something should be. For example, "you are a good boy". Hence, the criteria you mention. 'Deep' refers to being closer to how things are - and therefore having a better insight. For example, "
And here’s Horowitz final Hamburg concert - I remember a good Dichter SprichtHenkCherkassky’s 1992 Symphonic Etudes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FBhXCTqXh44This is Leonhardt’s final commercially released recording - and it’s a doozy. Forqueray.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mzyEQg3T6E8&pp=ygUURm9ycXVlcmF5IGxlb25oYXJkdCA%3DAnd Geoffrey Douglas Madge’s Art of the Fugue
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n4OB54229kiuUk1-bBCqhrVE8o-yFg01IAnd Blandine Verlet’s final François Couperin - this is all I can see on YouTube
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VWP-fLk09S4&pp=ygUZVmVybGV0IGNvdXBlcmluIGZyYW5jb2lzIA%3D%3D
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:57:26 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:It sounds routinelike.
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:52:41 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:46:00 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:39:06 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 11:36:40 AM UTC+1, Mandryka wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 10:44:17 AM UTC+1, HT wrote:
Op zaterdag 29 april 2023 om 00:16:12 UTC+2 schreef Frank Berger:
On 4/28/2023 5:49 PM, HT wrote:
Op vrijdag 28 april 2023 om 23:05:15 UTC+2 schreef MELMOTH:
HT a formulé ce vendredi :
If you are older than 60, you'd better not listen to the missing linkThey do not "lose" anything!... It seems normal to me that the fact of
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_TIsIp6YK8). Even the best pianists sound
far worse when they pass that line. It's not just technique. Their
interpretations lose sharpness, energy, alertness.
deepening, of digging their vision of the work involves them to
decrease the tempo of it...
Since when is speed synonymous with quality ?!
Do you really think that, for example, old Rubinstein's De Falla is 'deeper' than the younger version?
If so, how do you define 'deep'?
In general, speed isn't synonymous with quality. In certain circumstances, it may be a quality. When you play a Brahms Paganini étude, like ABM. However, my problem with the older ABM version isn't the speed, but the lack of purpose.
translates to any other art form. After rejecting the idea that "a good painting is one that has any blue in it," and "a good painting is one that does what the artist intends it to do (rejected by asking what if the artist wants to paint a bad painting),In my experience, age rarely creates deeper minds. The 'deepest' minds are young. They haven't yet found a convenient answer to their (musical or otherwise) questions.
HenkI can clear this up easily. As an undergraduate, I took a course titled "Philosophy of the Arts." The main thing we did during the course of the semester was to figure out what constitutes "good" art. We focused on painting, but the idea
"looking into someone's soul is deeper than looking into someone's eyes". The problem is why we believe that the soul is closer to how someone is than the eyes. The problem with Melmoth's 'deep' is why age would bring us closer to how the music is.A good painting is one that satisfies certain, not necessarily specified, criteria about what constitutes good painting."
Hope that helps.There is a slight difference. 'Good' refers to how something should be. For example, "you are a good boy". Hence, the criteria you mention. 'Deep' refers to being closer to how things are - and therefore having a better insight. For example,
And here’s Horowitz final Hamburg concert - I remember a good Dichter SprichtHenkCherkassky’s 1992 Symphonic Etudes
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FBhXCTqXh44This is Leonhardt’s final commercially released recording - and it’s a doozy. Forqueray.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mzyEQg3T6E8&pp=ygUURm9ycXVlcmF5IGxlb25oYXJkdCA%3DAnd Geoffrey Douglas Madge’s Art of the Fugue
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n4OB54229kiuUk1-bBCqhrVE8o-yFg01IAnd Blandine Verlet’s final François Couperin - this is all I can see on YouTube
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VWP-fLk09S4&pp=ygUZVmVybGV0IGNvdXBlcmluIGZyYW5jb2lzIA%3D%3DTerrible sound, but it’s magic. Sofronitsky in Liszt and Debussy at the museum
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv7VjKrMPOg&pp=ygUZU29mcm9uaXRza3kgbXVzZXVtIGxpc3p0IA%3D%3D
An example of old person’s wisdom: Mitsuko Uchida’s Diabelli Variations
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mvIv9vlO3kHREAwR_2vIWUvt9Jt-QK2hI
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 3:50:10 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
An example of old person’s wisdom: Mitsuko Uchida’s Diabelli Variations
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mvIv9vlO3kHREAwR_2vIWUvt9Jt-QK2hI
I think this may be better than any of the other versions that I currently have...
those being Brendel, Buchbinder and Richter. The Richter would be great except that the recording is crap... and I just cannot tolerate that... Uchida's interpretation is on another level, to my old ears.
As always, YMMV...
Richter would be great except that the recording is crap...
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:15:53 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 3:50:10 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
An example of old person’s wisdom: Mitsuko Uchida’s Diabelli Variations
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mvIv9vlO3kHREAwR_2vIWUvt9Jt-QK2hI
I think this may be better than any of the other versions that I currently have...
those being Brendel, Buchbinder and Richter. The Richter would be great except that the recording is crap... and I just cannot tolerate that... Uchida's interpretation is on another level, to my old ears.
As always, YMMV...https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nXyWTaIzLvQ_DEwx6md6sNfDAHDq-BMnk
https://youtu.be/pAI4-9yc6kA
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:17:25 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:15:53 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 3:50:10 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
An example of old person’s wisdom: Mitsuko Uchida’s Diabelli Variations
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mvIv9vlO3kHREAwR_2vIWUvt9Jt-QK2hI
I think this may be better than any of the other versions that I currently have...
those being Brendel, Buchbinder and Richter. The Richter would be great except that the recording is crap... and I just cannot tolerate that... Uchida's interpretation is on another level, to my old ears.
As always, YMMV...https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nXyWTaIzLvQ_DEwx6md6sNfDAHDq-BMnk
https://youtu.be/pAI4-9yc6kA
And of course Schnabel: https://youtu.be/F7SdHbKwtUI
dk
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 5:19:36 AM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:17:25 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:15:53 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 3:50:10 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
An example of old person’s wisdom: Mitsuko Uchida’s Diabelli Variations
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mvIv9vlO3kHREAwR_2vIWUvt9Jt-QK2hI
I think this may be better than any of the other versions that I currently have...
those being Brendel, Buchbinder and Richter. The Richter would be great
except that the recording is crap... and I just cannot tolerate that...
Uchida's interpretation is on another level, to my old ears.
As always, YMMV...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nXyWTaIzLvQ_DEwx6md6sNfDAHDq-BMnk
https://youtu.be/pAI4-9yc6kA
And of course Schnabel: https://youtu.be/F7SdHbKwtUI
Boring!
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:15:53 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
Richter would be great except that the recording is crap...
There are several Richter recordings of the Diabellicals,
all from live performances. Which one are you referring
to?
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 12:34:58 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 at 5:19:36 AM UTC+1, Dan Koren wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 9:17:25 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 7:15:53 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
On Saturday, April 29, 2023 at 3:50:10 AM UTC-7, Mandryka wrote:
An example of old person’s wisdom: Mitsuko Uchida’s Diabelli Variations
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mvIv9vlO3kHREAwR_2vIWUvt9Jt-QK2hI
I think this may be better than any of the other versions that I currently have...
those being Brendel, Buchbinder and Richter. The Richter would be great
except that the recording is crap... and I just cannot tolerate that...
Uchida's interpretation is on another level, to my old ears.
As always, YMMV...
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nXyWTaIzLvQ_DEwx6md6sNfDAHDq-BMnk
https://youtu.be/pAI4-9yc6kA
And of course Schnabel: https://youtu.be/F7SdHbKwtUI
Boring!
Not at all when compared
to Brendull or Buchbinder.
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