• Stravinsky - Les Noces

    From Andy Evans@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 24 05:11:04 2023
    A great work, which inspired many later works by Bartok, Orff etc. In terms of ballet there's not much better then Nijinska's original choreography, which is wonderful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vVHV9-mYTg

    In terms of musical performances, one version stands out - the close-mic'd Pokrovsky Ensemble. Very Russian vocals. Love it or hate it, it's compelling. Here's the first tableau, but it's all on YT. Tempo is a consistent 120bpm.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efQP5PjS5-Q

    In terms of live performances I like Gergiev. He uses a nicely rapid tempo around 120bpm.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAXanZ1B7wI&t=180s

    Bernstein is slower at 110bpm, too slow for me. Stravinsky himself is also around 110bpm in 1934 and a touch slower in the later version. I don't rate the Bernstein, but Stravinsky is a reference.

    Review of versions by Dave Hurwitz. Quite useful - he likes Reuss which is good and clean but a trifle bland, but his reference is Ancerl. Ancerl is good, a little slower at 117bpm but pretty authentic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyiLDxny67U

    Do you guys have favourites?

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  • From Mandryka@21:1/5 to Andy Evans on Mon Apr 24 06:51:04 2023
    On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 1:11:07 PM UTC+1, Andy Evans wrote:
    A great work, which inspired many later works by Bartok, Orff etc. In terms of ballet there's not much better then Nijinska's original choreography, which is wonderful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vVHV9-mYTg

    In terms of musical performances, one version stands out - the close-mic'd Pokrovsky Ensemble. Very Russian vocals. Love it or hate it, it's compelling. Here's the first tableau, but it's all on YT. Tempo is a consistent 120bpm.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efQP5PjS5-Q

    In terms of live performances I like Gergiev. He uses a nicely rapid tempo around 120bpm.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAXanZ1B7wI&t=180s

    Bernstein is slower at 110bpm, too slow for me. Stravinsky himself is also around 110bpm in 1934 and a touch slower in the later version. I don't rate the Bernstein, but Stravinsky is a reference.

    Review of versions by Dave Hurwitz. Quite useful - he likes Reuss which is good and clean but a trifle bland, but his reference is Ancerl. Ancerl is good, a little slower at 117bpm but pretty authentic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyiLDxny67U

    Do you guys have favourites?

    There was an Royal Ballet performance which I enjoyed, they made a DVD with an interview with Bronislava Nijinska and some of the dancers. Worth seeking out.

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  • From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Andy Evans on Mon Apr 24 15:40:02 2023
    On Monday, 24 April 2023 at 22:11:07 UTC+10, Andy Evans wrote:
    A great work, which inspired many later works by Bartok, Orff etc. In terms of ballet there's not much better then Nijinska's original choreography, which is wonderful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vVHV9-mYTg

    In terms of musical performances, one version stands out - the close-mic'd Pokrovsky Ensemble. Very Russian vocals. Love it or hate it, it's compelling. Here's the first tableau, but it's all on YT. Tempo is a consistent 120bpm.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efQP5PjS5-Q

    In terms of live performances I like Gergiev. He uses a nicely rapid tempo around 120bpm.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAXanZ1B7wI&t=180s

    Bernstein is slower at 110bpm, too slow for me. Stravinsky himself is also around 110bpm in 1934 and a touch slower in the later version. I don't rate the Bernstein, but Stravinsky is a reference.

    Review of versions by Dave Hurwitz. Quite useful - he likes Reuss which is good and clean but a trifle bland, but his reference is Ancerl. Ancerl is good, a little slower at 117bpm but pretty authentic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyiLDxny67U

    Do you guys have favourites?

    Ancerl for me, (he is generally always very very crisp), although Craft is very good. I can't remember Stravinsky's recording in the big Stravinsky box.

    Ray Hall, Taree

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