Yet another clean, ho-hum recording of this.
The only surprising thing is at around 8:40 into the second movement
when the mix goes completey awry for several seconds as the woodwind
section gets faded up to MAX.
Mahler 2. It used to be special.
On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 8:19:46 AM UTC-7, Alex Brown wrote:
Yet another clean, ho-hum recording of this.
The only surprising thing is at around 8:40 into the second movement
when the mix goes completey awry for several seconds as the woodwind
section gets faded up to MAX.
Mahler 2. It used to be special.
Bychkov's Mahler was so good in person. I saw the Sixth w/ VPO in 2011. Powerful experience.
Yet another clean, ho-hum recording of this.
The only surprising thing is at around 8:40 into the second movement
when the mix goes completey awry for several seconds as the woodwind
section gets faded up to MAX.
Mahler 2. It used to be special.
--
- Alex Brown
On Thursday, 13 April 2023 at 01:19:46 UTC+10, Alex Brown wrote:
Yet another clean, ho-hum recording of this.
The only surprising thing is at around 8:40 into the second movement
when the mix goes completey awry for several seconds as the woodwind
section gets faded up to MAX.
Mahler 2. It used to be special.
--
- Alex Brown
We have heard so many Mahler recordings since the day Mahler was the new thing, that we've become Mahlerised. For me his 1st, 6th, 7th and Das
Lied are still a bit special, but the 2nd has not worn well. Bruckner has fared better to my ears.
Ray Hall, Taree
On 13/04/2023 04:39, Oscar wrote:
On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 8:19:46 AM UTC-7, Alex Brown wrote:
Yet another clean, ho-hum recording of this.
The only surprising thing is at around 8:40 into the second movement
when the mix goes completey awry for several seconds as the woodwind
section gets faded up to MAX.
Mahler 2. It used to be special.
Bychkov's Mahler was so good in person. I saw the Sixth w/ VPO in 2011. Powerful experience.He's been good on record too. His SWR Mahler 3 is one of my favourites ...
--
- Alex Brown
On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 2:56:13 PM UTC+10, Alex Brown wrote:
On 13/04/2023 04:39, Oscar wrote:> > On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at
8:19:46 AM UTC-7, Alex Brown wrote:> >> Yet another clean, ho-hum
recording of this.> >>> >> The only surprising thing is at around 8:40
into the second movement> >> when the mix goes completey awry for
several seconds as the woodwind> >> section gets faded up to MAX.> >>>
in person. I saw the Sixth w/ VPO in 2011. Powerful experience.Mahler 2. It used to be special.> >> > Bychkov's Mahler was so good
He's been good on record too. His SWR Mahler 3 is one of my favourites
- Alex Brown
So the answer lies not in the stars like Mr Bychkov, but in ourselves?
Do we, perhaps, feel nostalgia for the days when a new recording of a
big Mahler symphony was a rare and much-anticipated event?
Meanwhile, Bychkov has conducted Cosi Fan Tutte at Covent Garden, and
the performance, plus a documentary about this production, are
available from ROH Stream.
Bychkov's Mahler was so good in person. I saw the Sixth w/ VPO in 2011. Powerful experience.
M'enfin! This particular critic appears to be ... Belgian.
And all Frenchmen agree that Belgians are stupid.
always right about everything: https://www.forumopera.com/cd-dvd-livre/mahler-symphonie-n2/Bychkov's Mahler was so good in person. I saw the Sixth w/ VPO in 2011. Powerful experience.He did it with the NYPO around that time, IIRC. Very disappointing. I have a recording of one of the concerts in the run to refresh my memory. An overrated conductor. His current 2nd is also disappointing, as pointed out by French critics who are
Simonel
On Monday, April 17, 2023 at 8:41:19 AM UTC+10, Dan Koren wrote:
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7, Andrew Clarke wrote:
M'enfin! This particular critic appears to be ... Belgian.Even Belgians agree that Belgians are stupid.
And all Frenchmen agree that Belgians are stupid.
dkThe exception being Bobby Jaspar from Liege, a brilliant saxophonist and flautist who was mixing it with the big boys in the USA just before his early death. He was also bright enough to be married to Blossom Dearie for a few years ...
On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 3:35:27 PM UTC-7, Andrew Clarke wrote:
M'enfin! This particular critic appears to be ... Belgian.Even Belgians agree that Belgians are stupid.
And all Frenchmen agree that Belgians are stupid.
dk
raymond....@gmail.com <raymond....@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, 13 April 2023 at 01:19:46 UTC+10, Alex Brown wrote:
Yet another clean, ho-hum recording of this.
The only surprising thing is at around 8:40 into the second movement
when the mix goes completey awry for several seconds as the woodwind
section gets faded up to MAX.
Mahler 2. It used to be special.
--
- Alex Brown
We have heard so many Mahler recordings since the day Mahler was the new thing, that we've become Mahlerised. For me his 1st, 6th, 7th and Das
Lied are still a bit special, but the 2nd has not worn well. Bruckner has fared better to my ears.
Ray Hall, Taree
Hi Ray, for me it has been the opposite. I have tried to get Bruckner, hearing some live performances with Chicago and numerous recordings, but to no avail. For me, Mahler is different. I like everything he wrote and can find enjoyment even in just average recordings. To each his own I guess :)
https://www.forumopera.com/cd-dvd-livre/mahler-symphonie-n2/
https://www.forumopera.com/cd-dvd-livre/mahler-symphonie-n2/
Bychkov strongly disappoints
On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 18:46:01 -0700 (PDT), Andrew Clarke <andrewc...@gmail.com> wrote:
I mention this, because in the case of Daniel Harding's new recording of The Planets, what's said to be going on and what I actually hear are two very different things.Harding did Ives' Three Places in New England with Berlin Philharmonic
some time ago. The audience was hard-pressed to bring him back with
applause even once!
I mention this, because in the case of Daniel Harding's new recording of The Planets, what's said to be going on and what I actually hear are two very different things.
On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 1:33:36 AM UTC+10, Mr. Mike wrote:
On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 18:46:01 -0700 (PDT), Andrew Clarke
<andrewc...@gmail.com> wrote:
I mention this, because in the case of Daniel Harding's new recording of The Planets, what's said to be going on and what I actually hear are two very different things.Harding did Ives' Three Places in New England with Berlin Philharmonic
some time ago. The audience was hard-pressed to bring him back with
applause even once!
One swallow some time ago does not make a summer. Especially if the swallow is Ives and the perch is the Philharmoniker.
Have you listened to his The Planets or does his alleged failure in Berlin some time ago excuse you from so doing?
Andrew Clarke
Canberra
My interest was piqued by this exchange so I did start to listen, but
only got through Mars. Mr Hurwitz was right in that it is a very soft-grained affair without menace or tang, and is very much not helped
by a low-impact, distant recording (unusually from this label for the
BRSO).
- Alex.
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