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    From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 5 23:39:37 2023
  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 6 03:14:57 2023
    Op donderdag 6 april 2023 om 08:39:40 UTC+2 schreef Dan Koren:
    https://youtu.be/K17shGx4qbY
    https://youtu.be/rosYAcJ7zyA
    https://youtu.be/p8cTzugtGAU
    https://youtu.be/kq5sD0po0A0
    https://youtu.be/4FZhN0em9-4
    https://youtu.be/XmNfuUXvac0

    What do you think?

    dk

    Godowsky and Lisitsa among these ones. My preferences aren't included.

    Henk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 6 17:46:04 2023
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 3:14:59 AM UTC-7, HT wrote:
    Op donderdag 6 april 2023 om 08:39:40 UTC+2 schreef Dan Koren:
    https://youtu.be/K17shGx4qbY
    https://youtu.be/rosYAcJ7zyA
    https://youtu.be/p8cTzugtGAU
    https://youtu.be/kq5sD0po0A0
    https://youtu.be/4FZhN0em9-4
    https://youtu.be/XmNfuUXvac0

    What do you think?

    Godowsky and Lisitsa among these
    ones. My preferences aren't included.

    Who are your preferences?
    Can you post links?

    Thx

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Thu Apr 6 19:23:02 2023
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:39:40 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    https://youtu.be/K17shGx4qbY
    https://youtu.be/rosYAcJ7zyA
    https://youtu.be/p8cTzugtGAU
    https://youtu.be/kq5sD0po0A0
    https://youtu.be/4FZhN0em9-4
    https://youtu.be/XmNfuUXvac0

    What do you think?

    dk

    I have versions by Pollini (1972), Lisita at Carnagie Hall, and Jan Lisiecki... and they are all just fine to me... but then, I am *still* quite easy to please, especially with quality recordings. Some of those really old recordings are just too painful
    to listen to, even thought the performances themselves are great. I just cannot tolerate old scratchy recordings. With modern technology you would think that there would be a way to make them sound pristine, but I assume that this would be asking too
    much... oh well, I can dream, can't I?

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Thu Apr 6 19:43:52 2023
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:23:05 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:39:40 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    https://youtu.be/K17shGx4qbY
    https://youtu.be/rosYAcJ7zyA
    https://youtu.be/p8cTzugtGAU
    https://youtu.be/kq5sD0po0A0
    https://youtu.be/4FZhN0em9-4
    https://youtu.be/XmNfuUXvac0

    What do you think?

    I have versions by Pollini (1972), Lisita at
    Carnagie Hall, and Jan Lisiecki... and they
    are all just fine to me... but then, I am *still*
    quite easy to please, especially with quality
    recordings. Some of those really old recordings
    are just too painful to listen to, even thought the
    performances themselves are great. I just cannot
    tolerate old scratchy recordings. With modern
    technology you would think that there would
    be a way to make them sound pristine, but I
    assume that this would be asking too much...
    oh well, I can dream, can't I?

    The technology is available, however the
    equipment and the software are expensive,
    and the process is time consuming. There
    isn't enough of a market to pay for it.

    dk

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Thu Apr 6 20:14:26 2023
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:43:55 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:23:05 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:39:40 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    https://youtu.be/K17shGx4qbY
    https://youtu.be/rosYAcJ7zyA
    https://youtu.be/p8cTzugtGAU
    https://youtu.be/kq5sD0po0A0
    https://youtu.be/4FZhN0em9-4
    https://youtu.be/XmNfuUXvac0

    What do you think?

    I have versions by Pollini (1972), Lisita at
    Carnagie Hall, and Jan Lisiecki... and they
    are all just fine to me... but then, I am *still*
    quite easy to please, especially with quality
    recordings. Some of those really old recordings
    are just too painful to listen to, even thought the
    performances themselves are great. I just cannot
    tolerate old scratchy recordings. With modern
    technology you would think that there would
    be a way to make them sound pristine, but I
    assume that this would be asking too much...
    oh well, I can dream, can't I?
    The technology is available, however the
    equipment and the software are expensive,
    and the process is time consuming. There
    isn't enough of a market to pay for it.

    How sad.

    I had some recordings of Fritz Kreisler from the first 2 decades of the last century, and while his mastery of the violin was apparent, the sound qualtiy drove me nuts. It is just a darn shame that these recording cannot be restored for a reasonable cost.
    ..

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Thu Apr 6 21:06:43 2023
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:17:00 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:14:29 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:43:55 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:23:05 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:39:40 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    https://youtu.be/K17shGx4qbY
    https://youtu.be/rosYAcJ7zyA
    https://youtu.be/p8cTzugtGAU
    https://youtu.be/kq5sD0po0A0
    https://youtu.be/4FZhN0em9-4
    https://youtu.be/XmNfuUXvac0

    What do you think?

    I have versions by Pollini (1972), Lisita at
    Carnagie Hall, and Jan Lisiecki... and they
    are all just fine to me... but then, I am *still*
    quite easy to please, especially with quality
    recordings. Some of those really old recordings
    are just too painful to listen to, even thought the
    performances themselves are great. I just cannot
    tolerate old scratchy recordings. With modern
    technology you would think that there would
    be a way to make them sound pristine, but I
    assume that this would be asking too much...
    oh well, I can dream, can't I?

    The technology is available, however the
    equipment and the software are expensive,
    and the process is time consuming. There
    isn't enough of a market to pay for it.

    How sad.

    NASA can do it. They're spending too much
    time, money and effort to send people to the
    Moon and beyond, instead of doing useful
    work that benefits all of humankind.

    I can pretty much assure you that just about everything that NASA does becomes very useful work that benefits all of humankind...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spinoff_technologies#:~:text=Well%2Dknown%20products%20that%20NASA,swimsuits%2C%20and%20CMOS%20image%20sensors.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=products+that+are+a+direct+result+of+NASA&rlz=1C1GTPM_enUS1017US1018&oq=products+that+are+a+direct+result+of+NASA&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i22i29i30.18514j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Thu Apr 6 20:16:57 2023
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:14:29 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:43:55 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:23:05 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:39:40 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    https://youtu.be/K17shGx4qbY
    https://youtu.be/rosYAcJ7zyA
    https://youtu.be/p8cTzugtGAU
    https://youtu.be/kq5sD0po0A0
    https://youtu.be/4FZhN0em9-4
    https://youtu.be/XmNfuUXvac0

    What do you think?

    I have versions by Pollini (1972), Lisita at
    Carnagie Hall, and Jan Lisiecki... and they
    are all just fine to me... but then, I am *still*
    quite easy to please, especially with quality
    recordings. Some of those really old recordings
    are just too painful to listen to, even thought the
    performances themselves are great. I just cannot
    tolerate old scratchy recordings. With modern
    technology you would think that there would
    be a way to make them sound pristine, but I
    assume that this would be asking too much...
    oh well, I can dream, can't I?

    The technology is available, however the
    equipment and the software are expensive,
    and the process is time consuming. There
    isn't enough of a market to pay for it.

    How sad.


    NASA can do it. They're spending too much
    time, money and effort to send people to the
    Moon and beyond, instead of doing useful
    work that benefits all of humankind.

    dk

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Thu Apr 6 21:17:41 2023
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 9:06:46 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:17:00 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:14:29 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:43:55 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:23:05 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:39:40 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    https://youtu.be/K17shGx4qbY
    https://youtu.be/rosYAcJ7zyA
    https://youtu.be/p8cTzugtGAU
    https://youtu.be/kq5sD0po0A0
    https://youtu.be/4FZhN0em9-4
    https://youtu.be/XmNfuUXvac0

    What do you think?

    I have versions by Pollini (1972), Lisita at
    Carnagie Hall, and Jan Lisiecki... and they
    are all just fine to me... but then, I am *still*
    quite easy to please, especially with quality
    recordings. Some of those really old recordings
    are just too painful to listen to, even thought the
    performances themselves are great. I just cannot
    tolerate old scratchy recordings. With modern
    technology you would think that there would
    be a way to make them sound pristine, but I
    assume that this would be asking too much...
    oh well, I can dream, can't I?

    The technology is available, however the
    equipment and the software are expensive,
    and the process is time consuming. There
    isn't enough of a market to pay for it.

    How sad.

    NASA can do it. They're spending too much
    time, money and effort to send people to the
    Moon and beyond, instead of doing useful
    work that benefits all of humankind.
    I can pretty much assure you that just about everything that NASA does becomes very useful work that benefits all of humankind...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spinoff_technologies#:~:text=Well%2Dknown%20products%20that%20NASA,swimsuits%2C%20and%20CMOS%20image%20sensors.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=products+that+are+a+direct+result+of+NASA&rlz=1C1GTPM_enUS1017US1018&oq=products+that+are+a+direct+result+of+NASA&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i22i29i30.18514j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    The following begins:

    - No one can deny that NASA has achieved extraordinary things in its relatively short lifetime. However, NASA is not without its critics.

    https://science.howstuffworks.com/nasa7.htm

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Fri Apr 7 00:00:37 2023
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 9:06:46 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:17:00 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:14:29 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:43:55 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:23:05 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:39:40 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    https://youtu.be/K17shGx4qbY
    https://youtu.be/rosYAcJ7zyA
    https://youtu.be/p8cTzugtGAU
    https://youtu.be/kq5sD0po0A0
    https://youtu.be/4FZhN0em9-4
    https://youtu.be/XmNfuUXvac0

    What do you think?

    I have versions by Pollini (1972), Lisita at
    Carnagie Hall, and Jan Lisiecki... and they
    are all just fine to me... but then, I am *still*
    quite easy to please, especially with quality
    recordings. Some of those really old recordings
    are just too painful to listen to, even thought the
    performances themselves are great. I just cannot
    tolerate old scratchy recordings. With modern
    technology you would think that there would
    be a way to make them sound pristine, but I
    assume that this would be asking too much...
    oh well, I can dream, can't I?

    The technology is available, however the
    equipment and the software are expensive,
    and the process is time consuming. There
    isn't enough of a market to pay for it.

    How sad.

    NASA can do it. They're spending too much
    time, money and effort to send people to the
    Moon and beyond, instead of doing useful
    work that benefits all of humankind.

    I can pretty much assure you that just about
    everything that NASA does becomes very
    useful work that benefits all of humankind...

    Including starving children in Africa and in
    South East Asia? NASA's 2023 budget is
    more than $25B. This amounts to more
    than 3 dollars for each person living on
    this planet.

    dk

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Fri Apr 7 17:27:48 2023
    On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 12:00:40 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 9:06:46 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:17:00 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:14:29 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:43:55 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:23:05 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:39:40 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    https://youtu.be/K17shGx4qbY
    https://youtu.be/rosYAcJ7zyA
    https://youtu.be/p8cTzugtGAU
    https://youtu.be/kq5sD0po0A0
    https://youtu.be/4FZhN0em9-4
    https://youtu.be/XmNfuUXvac0

    What do you think?

    I have versions by Pollini (1972), Lisita at
    Carnagie Hall, and Jan Lisiecki... and they
    are all just fine to me... but then, I am *still*
    quite easy to please, especially with quality
    recordings. Some of those really old recordings
    are just too painful to listen to, even thought the
    performances themselves are great. I just cannot
    tolerate old scratchy recordings. With modern
    technology you would think that there would
    be a way to make them sound pristine, but I
    assume that this would be asking too much...
    oh well, I can dream, can't I?

    The technology is available, however the
    equipment and the software are expensive,
    and the process is time consuming. There
    isn't enough of a market to pay for it.

    How sad.

    NASA can do it. They're spending too much
    time, money and effort to send people to the
    Moon and beyond, instead of doing useful
    work that benefits all of humankind.

    I can pretty much assure you that just about
    everything that NASA does becomes very
    useful work that benefits all of humankind...

    Including starving children in Africa and in
    South East Asia? NASA's 2023 budget is
    more than $25B. This amounts to more
    than 3 dollars for each person living on
    this planet.

    NASA's budget is miniscule in the bigger picture (even though this graph is from 2018)...

    https://observablehq.com/@skyegould/nasas-budget

    ... and is very close to having the smallest budget of *any* federal agency. The DOD has a budget of $773 billion, which is about 31 times larger than that of NASA (just how many dollars for each person living on the planet is that?), so maybe you should
    be chastising them instead for the "starving children in Africa and in South East Asia".

    Just so there is no misunderstandong...

    https://www.thebalancemoney.com/nasa-budget-current-funding-and-history-3306321

    "A report by the Space Foundation estimated that activities related to space contributed $180 billion to the economy in 2005—more than eight times the department's own budget."

    NASA is a good thing, not a bad thing...

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  • From raymond.hallbear1@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Fri Apr 7 21:01:11 2023
    On Saturday, 8 April 2023 at 10:27:51 UTC+10, Paul Alsing wrote:

    NASA can do it. They're spending too much
    time, money and effort to send people to the
    Moon and beyond, instead of doing useful
    work that benefits all of humankind.

    I can pretty much assure you that just about
    everything that NASA does becomes very
    useful work that benefits all of humankind...

    Including starving children in Africa and in
    South East Asia? NASA's 2023 budget is
    more than $25B. This amounts to more
    than 3 dollars for each person living on
    this planet.
    NASA's budget is miniscule in the bigger picture (even though this graph is from 2018)...

    https://observablehq.com/skyegould/nasas-budget

    ... and is very close to having the smallest budget of *any* federal agency. The DOD has a budget of $773 billion, which is about 31 times larger than that of NASA (just how many dollars for each person living on the planet is that?), so maybe you
    should be chastising them instead for the "starving children in Africa and in South East Asia".

    Just so there is no misunderstandong...

    https://www.thebalancemoney.com/nasa-budget-current-funding-and-history-3306321

    "A report by the Space Foundation estimated that activities related to space contributed $180 billion to the economy in 2005—more than eight times the department's own budget."

    NASA is a good thing, not a bad thing...

    If electrical generation of energy by fusion ever really becomes commercially viable (there are some who say it is many many decades away), then the moon is a very important source for lithium fuel (it is in the moon dust). As such, whoever establishes
    themselves on the moon, has some mastery over a potential source of fuel not easily found on Earth.

    Ray Hall, Taree

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Sun Apr 9 09:32:17 2023
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 9:06:46 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:17:00 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:14:29 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:43:55 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:23:05 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:39:40 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    https://youtu.be/K17shGx4qbY
    https://youtu.be/rosYAcJ7zyA
    https://youtu.be/p8cTzugtGAU
    https://youtu.be/kq5sD0po0A0
    https://youtu.be/4FZhN0em9-4
    https://youtu.be/XmNfuUXvac0

    What do you think?

    I have versions by Pollini (1972), Lisita at
    Carnagie Hall, and Jan Lisiecki... and they
    are all just fine to me... but then, I am *still*
    quite easy to please, especially with quality
    recordings. Some of those really old recordings
    are just too painful to listen to, even thought the
    performances themselves are great. I just cannot
    tolerate old scratchy recordings. With modern
    technology you would think that there would
    be a way to make them sound pristine, but I
    assume that this would be asking too much...
    oh well, I can dream, can't I?

    The technology is available, however the
    equipment and the software are expensive,
    and the process is time consuming. There
    isn't enough of a market to pay for it.

    How sad.

    NASA can do it. They're spending too much
    time, money and effort to send people to the
    Moon and beyond, instead of doing useful
    work that benefits all of humankind.
    I can pretty much assure you that just about everything that NASA does becomes very useful work that benefits all of humankind...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spinoff_technologies#:~:text=Well%2Dknown%20products%20that%20NASA,swimsuits%2C%20and%20CMOS%20image%20sensors.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=products+that+are+a+direct+result+of+NASA&rlz=1C1GTPM_enUS1017US1018&oq=products+that+are+a+direct+result+of+NASA&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i22i29i30.18514j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    (Y. upload):

    "Neil deGrasse Tyson on The Dark Side of NASA | JHS Ep. 327"

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Thu Apr 13 22:57:08 2023
    On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 5:27:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 12:00:40 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 9:06:46 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:17:00 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 8:14:29 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:43:55 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 7:23:05 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:39:40 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    https://youtu.be/K17shGx4qbY
    https://youtu.be/rosYAcJ7zyA
    https://youtu.be/p8cTzugtGAU
    https://youtu.be/kq5sD0po0A0
    https://youtu.be/4FZhN0em9-4
    https://youtu.be/XmNfuUXvac0

    What do you think?

    I have versions by Pollini (1972), Lisita at
    Carnagie Hall, and Jan Lisiecki... and they
    are all just fine to me... but then, I am *still*
    quite easy to please, especially with quality
    recordings. Some of those really old recordings
    are just too painful to listen to, even thought the
    performances themselves are great. I just cannot
    tolerate old scratchy recordings. With modern
    technology you would think that there would
    be a way to make them sound pristine, but I
    assume that this would be asking too much...
    oh well, I can dream, can't I?

    The technology is available, however the
    equipment and the software are expensive,
    and the process is time consuming. There
    isn't enough of a market to pay for it.

    How sad.

    NASA can do it. They're spending too much
    time, money and effort to send people to the
    Moon and beyond, instead of doing useful
    work that benefits all of humankind.

    I can pretty much assure you that just about
    everything that NASA does becomes very
    useful work that benefits all of humankind...

    Including starving children in Africa and in
    South East Asia? NASA's 2023 budget is
    more than $25B. This amounts to more
    than 3 dollars for each person living on
    this planet.
    NASA's budget is miniscule in the bigger picture (even though this graph is from 2018)...

    https://observablehq.com/@skyegould/nasas-budget

    ... and is very close to having the smallest budget of *any* federal agency. The DOD has a budget of $773 billion, which is about 31 times larger than that of NASA (just how many dollars for each person living on the planet is that?), so maybe you
    should be chastising them instead for the "starving children in Africa and in South East Asia".

    Just so there is no misunderstandong...

    https://www.thebalancemoney.com/nasa-budget-current-funding-and-history-3306321

    "A report by the Space Foundation estimated that activities related to space contributed $180 billion to the economy in 2005—more than eight times the department's own budget."

    NASA is a good thing, not a bad thing...

    (2023 Y. upload):

    "The Moon, Mars, and Beyond: New Head of Science Has Big Plans for NASA | Amanpour and Company"

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