• OT: Lee Kuan Yew interview touching on Vietnam War

    From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 2 15:05:17 2023
    https://youtu.be/VexrmTacOAA

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  • From Graham@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Sun Apr 2 16:37:39 2023
    On 2023-04-02 4:32 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:05:20 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:

    https://youtu.be/VexrmTacOAA


    20+ years later:

    https://youtu.be/_KrKdj50mPk

    IMHO Lee Kuan Yew was the
    greatest head of state of the
    1900s -- bt very very very far.

    No other nation accomplished
    what Singapore accomplished
    in 50 years under his Dictatorship.

    dk
    Corrected it for you:-)

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Sun Apr 2 15:32:07 2023
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:05:20 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:

    https://youtu.be/VexrmTacOAA


    20+ years later:

    https://youtu.be/_KrKdj50mPk

    IMHO Lee Kuan Yew was the
    greatest head of state of the
    1900s -- bt very very very far.

    No other nation accomplished
    what Singapore accomplished
    in 50 years under his leadership.

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Graham on Sun Apr 2 15:45:29 2023
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:37:44 PM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
    On 2023-04-02 4:32 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:05:20 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:

    https://youtu.be/VexrmTacOAA


    20+ years later:

    https://youtu.be/_KrKdj50mPk

    IMHO Lee Kuan Yew was the
    greatest head of state of the
    1900s -- bt very very very far.

    No other nation accomplished
    what Singapore accomplished
    in 50 years under his Dictatorship.

    Corrected it for you:-)

    Absolutely false. Have you ever
    been to Singapore? Did you ever
    ask Singaporeans about the
    supposed "dictatorship"?

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Bob Harper on Mon Apr 3 10:50:13 2023
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 10:28:09 AM UTC-7, Bob Harper wrote:
    On 4/2/23 3:45 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:37:44 PM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
    On 2023-04-02 4:32 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:05:20 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:

    https://youtu.be/VexrmTacOAA


    20+ years later:

    https://youtu.be/_KrKdj50mPk

    IMHO Lee Kuan Yew was the
    greatest head of state of the
    1900s -- bt very very very far.

    No other nation accomplished
    what Singapore accomplished
    in 50 years under his Dictatorship.

    Corrected it for you:-)

    Absolutely false. Have you ever
    been to Singapore? Did you ever
    ask Singaporeans about the
    supposed "dictatorship"?

    Dan, regardless of LKY's success in
    building Singapore (which I agree
    was amazing), that he was in all
    relevant respects an authoritarian
    or perhaps a 'benevolent dictator'
    is beyond peradventure.


    You really do not know your facts
    (or maybe you know YOUR FAXES)
    and do not even understand the
    meaning of the words DICTATOR
    or DICTATORSHIP.

    Can you provide the name(s) of
    any person(s) who were jailed,
    persecuted, or fired from their
    job(s) for disagreeing with LKY?

    I am holding my breath .....

    The fact Singapore had/has some
    laws that do/did not align with US
    notions of democracy does not
    make it a dictatorship.

    One should also remember that
    Singapore's legal framework was
    inherited from Malaysia, which
    in turn inherited its legal system
    from ..... the UK ?!?

    Please review your history.

    The US media painted Singapore
    a lot darker than it is/was because
    of pressure from the government
    and the CIA, who were worried LKY
    might tilt towards China and wanted
    to be able to build a case just in case
    they might decide to replace him. This
    is beyond debate, and pretty obvious
    from some of the interviews I posted.

    dk

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  • From Bob Harper@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Mon Apr 3 10:28:04 2023
    On 4/2/23 3:45 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:37:44 PM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
    On 2023-04-02 4:32 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:05:20 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:

    https://youtu.be/VexrmTacOAA


    20+ years later:

    https://youtu.be/_KrKdj50mPk

    IMHO Lee Kuan Yew was the
    greatest head of state of the
    1900s -- bt very very very far.

    No other nation accomplished
    what Singapore accomplished
    in 50 years under his Dictatorship.

    Corrected it for you:-)

    Absolutely false. Have you ever
    been to Singapore? Did you ever
    ask Singaporeans about the
    supposed "dictatorship"?

    dk


    Dan, regardless of LKY's success in building Singapore (which I agree
    was amazing), that he was in all relevant respects an authoritarian or
    perhaps a 'benevolent dictator' is beyond peradventure.

    Bob Harper

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  • From Marc S@21:1/5 to Bob Harper on Mon Apr 3 11:47:07 2023
    Bob Harper schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 19:28:09 UTC+2:
    On 4/2/23 3:45 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:37:44 PM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
    On 2023-04-02 4:32 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:05:20 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:

    https://youtu.be/VexrmTacOAA


    20+ years later:

    https://youtu.be/_KrKdj50mPk

    IMHO Lee Kuan Yew was the
    greatest head of state of the
    1900s -- bt very very very far.

    No other nation accomplished
    what Singapore accomplished
    in 50 years under his Dictatorship.

    Corrected it for you:-)

    Absolutely false. Have you ever
    been to Singapore? Did you ever
    ask Singaporeans about the
    supposed "dictatorship"?

    dk


    Dan, regardless of LKY's success in building Singapore (which I agree
    was amazing), that he was in all relevant respects an authoritarian or perhaps a 'benevolent dictator' is beyond peradventure.

    Bob Harper

    In Dan's world Netanyahu has dictatorial aims for which he demonizes him, but LKY is ofc not a dictator and is endorsed - hehe.

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  • From Marc S@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Mon Apr 3 11:48:14 2023
    Dan Koren schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 19:50:16 UTC+2:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 10:28:09 AM UTC-7, Bob Harper wrote:
    On 4/2/23 3:45 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:37:44 PM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
    On 2023-04-02 4:32 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:05:20 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:

    https://youtu.be/VexrmTacOAA


    20+ years later:

    https://youtu.be/_KrKdj50mPk

    IMHO Lee Kuan Yew was the
    greatest head of state of the
    1900s -- bt very very very far.

    No other nation accomplished
    what Singapore accomplished
    in 50 years under his Dictatorship.

    Corrected it for you:-)

    Absolutely false. Have you ever
    been to Singapore? Did you ever
    ask Singaporeans about the
    supposed "dictatorship"?

    Dan, regardless of LKY's success in
    building Singapore (which I agree
    was amazing), that he was in all
    relevant respects an authoritarian
    or perhaps a 'benevolent dictator'
    is beyond peradventure.

    You really do not know your facts
    (or maybe you know YOUR FAXES)
    and do not even understand the
    meaning of the words DICTATOR
    or DICTATORSHIP.

    Can you provide the name(s) of
    any person(s) who were jailed,
    persecuted, or fired from their
    job(s) for disagreeing with LKY?

    I am holding my breath .....

    The fact Singapore had/has some
    laws that do/did not align with US
    notions of democracy does not
    make it a dictatorship.

    One should also remember that
    Singapore's legal framework was
    inherited from Malaysia, which
    in turn inherited its legal system
    from ..... the UK ?!?

    Please review your history.

    The US media painted Singapore
    a lot darker than it is/was because
    of pressure from the government
    and the CIA, who were worried LKY
    might tilt towards China and wanted
    to be able to build a case just in case
    they might decide to replace him. This
    is beyond debate, and pretty obvious
    from some of the interviews I posted.

    dk

    Dan, I didn't make it through all of this shit, but let me kindly remind you, that you are not a Singaporean and that LKY is not your Führer - no matter how much you wish this to be true.

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Marc S on Mon Apr 3 11:51:37 2023
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
    Dan Koren schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 19:50:16 UTC+2:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 10:28:09 AM UTC-7, Bob Harper wrote:
    On 4/2/23 3:45 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:37:44 PM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
    On 2023-04-02 4:32 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:05:20 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote: >>>>
    https://youtu.be/VexrmTacOAA


    20+ years later:

    https://youtu.be/_KrKdj50mPk

    IMHO Lee Kuan Yew was the
    greatest head of state of the
    1900s -- bt very very very far.

    No other nation accomplished
    what Singapore accomplished
    in 50 years under his Dictatorship.

    Corrected it for you:-)

    Absolutely false. Have you ever
    been to Singapore? Did you ever
    ask Singaporeans about the
    supposed "dictatorship"?

    Dan, regardless of LKY's success in
    building Singapore (which I agree
    was amazing), that he was in all
    relevant respects an authoritarian
    or perhaps a 'benevolent dictator'
    is beyond peradventure.

    You really do not know your facts
    (or maybe you know YOUR FAXES)
    and do not even understand the
    meaning of the words DICTATOR
    or DICTATORSHIP.

    Can you provide the name(s) of
    any person(s) who were jailed,
    persecuted, or fired from their
    job(s) for disagreeing with LKY?

    I am holding my breath .....

    The fact Singapore had/has some
    laws that do/did not align with US
    notions of democracy does not
    make it a dictatorship.

    One should also remember that
    Singapore's legal framework was
    inherited from Malaysia, which
    in turn inherited its legal system
    from ..... the UK ?!?

    Please review your history.

    The US media painted Singapore
    a lot darker than it is/was because
    of pressure from the government
    and the CIA, who were worried LKY
    might tilt towards China and wanted
    to be able to build a case just in case
    they might decide to replace him. This
    is beyond debate, and pretty obvious
    from some of the interviews I posted.

    Dan, I didn't make it through all of this shit,

    Maybe you should.

    but let me kindly remind you, that you are
    not a Singaporean

    How would one know?

    and that LKY is not your Führer - no matter
    how much you wish this to be true.

    I never looked for "Führers".
    Stop projecting yourself on
    the rest of the universe.

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Marc S on Mon Apr 3 11:55:04 2023
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 11:47:09 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:

    In Dan's world Netanyahu has dictatorial
    aims for which he demonizes him, but
    LKY is ofc not a dictator and is endorsed

    LKY built a nation, while Netanyahu
    is destroying his. You are really a
    completely brainfucked imbecile.

    Netanyahu has fired government
    officials for not agreeing with him.

    If this isn't dictatorship, then what is?

    dk

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  • From Marc S@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Mon Apr 3 12:07:47 2023
    Dan Koren schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 20:51:40 UTC+2:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
    Dan Koren schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 19:50:16 UTC+2:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 10:28:09 AM UTC-7, Bob Harper wrote:
    On 4/2/23 3:45 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:37:44 PM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
    On 2023-04-02 4:32 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:05:20 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote: >>>>
    https://youtu.be/VexrmTacOAA


    20+ years later:

    https://youtu.be/_KrKdj50mPk

    IMHO Lee Kuan Yew was the
    greatest head of state of the
    1900s -- bt very very very far.

    No other nation accomplished
    what Singapore accomplished
    in 50 years under his Dictatorship.

    Corrected it for you:-)

    Absolutely false. Have you ever
    been to Singapore? Did you ever
    ask Singaporeans about the
    supposed "dictatorship"?

    Dan, regardless of LKY's success in
    building Singapore (which I agree
    was amazing), that he was in all
    relevant respects an authoritarian
    or perhaps a 'benevolent dictator'
    is beyond peradventure.

    You really do not know your facts
    (or maybe you know YOUR FAXES)
    and do not even understand the
    meaning of the words DICTATOR
    or DICTATORSHIP.

    Can you provide the name(s) of
    any person(s) who were jailed,
    persecuted, or fired from their
    job(s) for disagreeing with LKY?

    I am holding my breath .....

    The fact Singapore had/has some
    laws that do/did not align with US
    notions of democracy does not
    make it a dictatorship.

    One should also remember that
    Singapore's legal framework was
    inherited from Malaysia, which
    in turn inherited its legal system
    from ..... the UK ?!?

    Please review your history.

    The US media painted Singapore
    a lot darker than it is/was because
    of pressure from the government
    and the CIA, who were worried LKY
    might tilt towards China and wanted
    to be able to build a case just in case
    they might decide to replace him. This
    is beyond debate, and pretty obvious
    from some of the interviews I posted.

    Dan, I didn't make it through all of this shit,
    Maybe you should.

    I trust my judgement more than yours.

    but let me kindly remind you, that you are
    not a Singaporean
    How would one know?

    You once showed me proof in a private mail... in a desperate attempt to prove me your nationality - which I never doubted.

    and that LKY is not your Führer - no matter
    how much you wish this to be true.
    I never looked for "Führers".
    Stop projecting yourself on
    the rest of the universe.

    I think you are the one projecting a whole lot here... you have this weird fetish about asia, a place you imagine things to be perfect or at least better... maybe not generally, but specifically wrt some countries. You are the one idolizing a dictator -
    not me.

    BTW I think Singapore looks like shit; I was there twice as a child. Ofc it's clean... but there is no life in the buildings imo. It all looks so clean and lifeless; totally different from Korea, Japan or HK.


    dk

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  • From Marc S@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Mon Apr 3 12:10:05 2023
    Dan Koren schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 20:55:07 UTC+2:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 11:47:09 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:

    In Dan's world Netanyahu has dictatorial
    aims for which he demonizes him, but
    LKY is ofc not a dictator and is endorsed
    LKY built a nation, while Netanyahu
    is destroying his. You are really a
    completely brainfucked imbecile.

    Netanyahu has fired government
    officials for not agreeing with him.

    If this isn't dictatorship, then what is?

    That is not dictatorship. You have to view this case specifically.

    What about the governmental control over the media in Singapore you fool.


    dk

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  • From Marc S@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Mon Apr 3 12:13:53 2023
    Dan Koren schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 20:55:07 UTC+2:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 11:47:09 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:

    In Dan's world Netanyahu has dictatorial
    aims for which he demonizes him, but
    LKY is ofc not a dictator and is endorsed
    LKY built a nation, while Netanyahu
    is destroying his.

    This ofc is not true, but why would debate this with a lunatic like you?

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Marc S on Mon Apr 3 12:16:38 2023
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 12:07:50 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:

    but let me kindly remind you, that you are
    not a Singaporean

    How would one know?

    You once showed me proof in a private mail...
    in a desperate attempt to prove me your
    nationality - which I never doubted.

    I showed you evidence I was born in
    Romania, no less and no more. This
    does not mean I am Romanian -- I
    am not. It also does not mean one
    may not have acquired additional
    residences or citizenships. You
    obviously cannot read English.

    you have this weird fetish about asia, a
    place you imagine things to be perfect
    or at least better... maybe not generally,
    but specifically wrt some countries.

    I have no fetishes about anything. There
    are plenty of things I like in Asian cultures,
    as there are plenty of things I dislike. What
    one believes about Singapore or not does
    not change the fact that Singapore has
    managed to accomplish since 1965 is
    unprocedented by any objective metric.

    BTW I think Singapore looks like shit; I
    was there twice as a child.

    Then you probably knew shit very well.
    Do you still wear your diapers?

    Ofc it's clean... but there is no life in the
    buildings imo. It all looks so clean and
    lifeless; totally different from Korea,
    Japan or HK.

    They probably didn't let you in.

    dk

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  • From Marc S@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Mon Apr 3 12:18:52 2023
    Dan Koren schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 21:16:41 UTC+2:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 12:07:50 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:

    but let me kindly remind you, that you are
    not a Singaporean

    How would one know?

    You once showed me proof in a private mail...
    in a desperate attempt to prove me your
    nationality - which I never doubted.
    I showed you evidence I was born in
    Romania, no less and no more. This
    does not mean I am Romanian -- I
    am not. It also does not mean one
    may not have acquired additional
    residences or citizenships. You
    obviously cannot read English.
    you have this weird fetish about asia, a
    place you imagine things to be perfect
    or at least better... maybe not generally,
    but specifically wrt some countries.
    I have no fetishes about anything. There
    are plenty of things I like in Asian cultures,
    as there are plenty of things I dislike. What
    one believes about Singapore or not does
    not change the fact that Singapore has
    managed to accomplish since 1965 is
    unprocedented by any objective metric.
    BTW I think Singapore looks like shit; I
    was there twice as a child.
    Then you probably knew shit very well.
    Do you still wear your diapers?
    Ofc it's clean... but there is no life in the
    buildings imo. It all looks so clean and
    lifeless; totally different from Korea,
    Japan or HK.
    They probably didn't let you in.

    dk

    My dear friend... I am not reading any of this any further...

    It's not my fault you are too stupid to realize that LKY was a dictator.

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  • From Marc S@21:1/5 to Marc S on Mon Apr 3 12:17:39 2023
    Marc S schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 21:07:50 UTC+2:
    Dan Koren schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 20:51:40 UTC+2:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 11:48:17 AM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
    Dan Koren schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 19:50:16 UTC+2:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 10:28:09 AM UTC-7, Bob Harper wrote:
    On 4/2/23 3:45 PM, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:37:44 PM UTC-7, Graham wrote:
    On 2023-04-02 4:32 p.m., Dan Koren wrote:
    On Sunday, April 2, 2023 at 3:05:20 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote: >>>>
    https://youtu.be/VexrmTacOAA


    20+ years later:

    https://youtu.be/_KrKdj50mPk

    IMHO Lee Kuan Yew was the
    greatest head of state of the
    1900s -- bt very very very far.

    No other nation accomplished
    what Singapore accomplished
    in 50 years under his Dictatorship.

    Corrected it for you:-)

    Absolutely false. Have you ever
    been to Singapore? Did you ever
    ask Singaporeans about the
    supposed "dictatorship"?

    Dan, regardless of LKY's success in
    building Singapore (which I agree
    was amazing), that he was in all
    relevant respects an authoritarian
    or perhaps a 'benevolent dictator'
    is beyond peradventure.

    You really do not know your facts
    (or maybe you know YOUR FAXES)
    and do not even understand the
    meaning of the words DICTATOR
    or DICTATORSHIP.

    Can you provide the name(s) of
    any person(s) who were jailed,
    persecuted, or fired from their
    job(s) for disagreeing with LKY?

    I am holding my breath .....

    The fact Singapore had/has some
    laws that do/did not align with US
    notions of democracy does not
    make it a dictatorship.

    One should also remember that
    Singapore's legal framework was
    inherited from Malaysia, which
    in turn inherited its legal system
    from ..... the UK ?!?

    Please review your history.

    The US media painted Singapore
    a lot darker than it is/was because
    of pressure from the government
    and the CIA, who were worried LKY
    might tilt towards China and wanted
    to be able to build a case just in case
    they might decide to replace him. This
    is beyond debate, and pretty obvious
    from some of the interviews I posted.

    Dan, I didn't make it through all of this shit,
    Maybe you should.
    I trust my judgement more than yours.
    but let me kindly remind you, that you are
    not a Singaporean
    How would one know?
    You once showed me proof in a private mail... in a desperate attempt to prove me your nationality - which I never doubted.

    *To explain: Dan out of nowhere sent me a picture of his passport in an E-Mail to prove me his nationality...

    I never asked for this shit and I never doubted it... Seems as if I have gotten under his skin in some way; why would he care so much that he would sent me a picture of his passport - wtf... what a crazy guy.

    and that LKY is not your Führer - no matter
    how much you wish this to be true.
    I never looked for "Führers".
    Stop projecting yourself on
    the rest of the universe.
    I think you are the one projecting a whole lot here... you have this weird fetish about asia, a place you imagine things to be perfect or at least better... maybe not generally, but specifically wrt some countries. You are the one idolizing a dictator -
    not me.

    BTW I think Singapore looks like shit; I was there twice as a child. Ofc it's clean... but there is no life in the buildings imo. It all looks so clean and lifeless; totally different from Korea, Japan or HK.


    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Marc S on Mon Apr 3 13:57:42 2023
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 12:18:54 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:

    It's not my fault you are too stupid
    to realize that LKY was a dictator.

    Curiously, no one in Singapore
    noticed it either.

    dk

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  • From Marc S@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Mon Apr 3 14:18:50 2023
    Dan Koren schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 22:57:45 UTC+2:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 12:18:54 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:

    It's not my fault you are too stupid
    to realize that LKY was a dictator.
    Curiously, no one in Singapore
    noticed it either.

    dk

    Funny cause I heard Singaporeans themselves say that he was a dictator - all of the times though they still seemed to view him positively majorly.
    And this is a problem you idiot. You should not idealize this, even if he did good things...

    You seem to screw around with definitions of words just as you wish - truly characteristic of your deranged mindset that also equates Netanyahu with Putin.
    According to objective standards he was a dictator - whether the Singaporeans liked him or not, does not matter in the slightest you god damn idiot.

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Marc S on Mon Apr 3 14:29:33 2023
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
    Dan Koren schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 22:57:45 UTC+2:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 12:18:54 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:

    It's not my fault you are too stupid
    to realize that LKY was a dictator.

    Curiously, no one in Singapore
    noticed it either.

    Funny cause I heard Singaporeans
    themselves say that he was a dictator -

    Can you provide a single example of
    a person jailed, or fired from a state
    job for disagreeing with LKY? That
    would be DICTATORSHIP.

    People use terms like "Nazi", "Fascist"
    or "Dictator" coloquially all the time.
    Don't pretend you don't know.

    One of the classic sayings in the SW
    and computer industries is "In God
    we trust -- everyone else bring data!".

    You are a pluted brainfucked imbecile.

    dk

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  • From Marc S@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Mon Apr 3 15:21:39 2023
    Dan Koren schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 23:29:36 UTC+2:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 2:18:52 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:
    Dan Koren schrieb am Montag, 3. April 2023 um 22:57:45 UTC+2:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 12:18:54 PM UTC-7, Marc S wrote:

    It's not my fault you are too stupid
    to realize that LKY was a dictator.

    Curiously, no one in Singapore
    noticed it either.

    Funny cause I heard Singaporeans
    themselves say that he was a dictator -
    Can you provide a single example of
    a person jailed, or fired from a state
    job for disagreeing with LKY? That
    would be DICTATORSHIP.

    Look I'm not here to teach you how a dictatorship or a dictator is defined.

    I am also not here to look things up for you; as far as I know dissidents were silenced (quite a while ago since I read about it), but not in a "mean" manner, but a "soft" dictatorship is a still a dictatorship. And I don't think it's good, and as it
    seems the dictatorship still lives on in some ways. He surely has done good things, but he still was a dictator and I think Singapore "as a whole" is wrong... like I said... very lifeless. It's as if LKY's way with things sort of made all things a bit
    too clinical... and also fake.

    There are many Singaporeans who will agree with me that he was a dictator you idiot - most of them will like him, as they are brainwashed... just like you wrt Israel. You go live in your fantasy world behind your scuba mask.


    People use terms like "Nazi", "Fascist"
    or "Dictator" coloquially all the time.
    Don't pretend you don't know.

    Well I don't use those terms coloquially and I don't think it would make sense to do so. And your argument has nothing to do with what I said you fool.


    One of the classic sayings in the SW
    and computer industries is "In God
    we trust -- everyone else bring data!".

    Well, I believe you lack the intellect to interpret data in any meaningful way - proof besides of your obvious idiocy: your covid data "analysis"... so all data will be useless.


    You are a pluted brainfucked imbecile.

    And you are a self-hating Jew who should do teshuvah for being such an idiot! Hehe


    dk

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 3 16:39:24 2023
    I do not have horse in this race, but I asked openAI the question... "Was Lee Kuan Yew a dictator?" and the answer was as follows...

    "Lee Kuan Yew, who served as the first Prime Minister of Singapore from 1959 to 1990, is often characterized as a strong and authoritarian leader. However, whether he was a dictator is a matter of debate.

    Lee Kuan Yew was known for his strict policies and for taking a firm hand in governing Singapore, which included restrictions on the media, limitations on political opposition, and strict laws on public order. However, he also oversaw significant
    economic and social progress in Singapore during his tenure, turning it into a prosperous and developed nation.

    Some argue that Lee Kuan Yew's leadership style was necessary to transform Singapore from a poor and unstable country into a prosperous and stable one, while others contend that his policies stifled political dissent and civil liberties.

    Ultimately, whether Lee Kuan Yew was a dictator or not depends on how one defines the term. Some would argue that his authoritarian tendencies and strong-arm tactics make him a dictator, while others would say that his actions were necessary for the
    greater good of Singapore."

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Mon Apr 3 17:56:44 2023
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 4:39:27 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    I do not have horse in this race, but I asked openAI the question... "Was Lee Kuan Yew a dictator?" and the answer was as follows...

    "Lee Kuan Yew, who served as the first Prime Minister of Singapore from 1959 to 1990, is often characterized as a strong and authoritarian leader. However, whether he was a dictator is a matter of debate.

    Lee Kuan Yew was known for his strict policies and for taking a firm hand in governing Singapore, which included restrictions on the media, limitations on political opposition, and strict laws on public order. However, he also oversaw significant
    economic and social progress in Singapore during his tenure, turning it into a prosperous and developed nation.

    Some argue that Lee Kuan Yew's leadership style was necessary to transform Singapore from a poor and unstable country into a prosperous and stable one, while others contend that his policies stifled political dissent and civil liberties.

    Ultimately, whether Lee Kuan Yew was a dictator or not depends on how one defines the term. Some would argue that his authoritarian tendencies and strong-arm tactics make him a dictator, while others would say that his actions were necessary for the
    greater good of Singapore."

    Could you ask it the question--what is the future of classical music recordings?

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  • From Paul Alsing@21:1/5 to gggg gggg on Mon Apr 3 18:34:13 2023
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 5:56:47 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 4:39:27 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    I do not have horse in this race, but I asked openAI the question... "Was Lee Kuan Yew a dictator?" and the answer was as follows...

    "Lee Kuan Yew, who served as the first Prime Minister of Singapore from 1959 to 1990, is often characterized as a strong and authoritarian leader. However, whether he was a dictator is a matter of debate.

    Lee Kuan Yew was known for his strict policies and for taking a firm hand in governing Singapore, which included restrictions on the media, limitations on political opposition, and strict laws on public order. However, he also oversaw significant
    economic and social progress in Singapore during his tenure, turning it into a prosperous and developed nation.

    Some argue that Lee Kuan Yew's leadership style was necessary to transform Singapore from a poor and unstable country into a prosperous and stable one, while others contend that his policies stifled political dissent and civil liberties.

    Ultimately, whether Lee Kuan Yew was a dictator or not depends on how one defines the term. Some would argue that his authoritarian tendencies and strong-arm tactics make him a dictator, while others would say that his actions were necessary for the
    greater good of Singapore."

    Could you ask it the question--what is the future of classical music recordings?

    Sure. Go ahead...

    https://chat.openai.com/chat

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  • From gggg gggg@21:1/5 to Paul Alsing on Mon Apr 3 20:53:16 2023
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 6:34:16 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 5:56:47 PM UTC-7, gggg gggg wrote:
    On Monday, April 3, 2023 at 4:39:27 PM UTC-7, Paul Alsing wrote:
    I do not have horse in this race, but I asked openAI the question... "Was Lee Kuan Yew a dictator?" and the answer was as follows...

    "Lee Kuan Yew, who served as the first Prime Minister of Singapore from 1959 to 1990, is often characterized as a strong and authoritarian leader. However, whether he was a dictator is a matter of debate.

    Lee Kuan Yew was known for his strict policies and for taking a firm hand in governing Singapore, which included restrictions on the media, limitations on political opposition, and strict laws on public order. However, he also oversaw significant
    economic and social progress in Singapore during his tenure, turning it into a prosperous and developed nation.

    Some argue that Lee Kuan Yew's leadership style was necessary to transform Singapore from a poor and unstable country into a prosperous and stable one, while others contend that his policies stifled political dissent and civil liberties.

    Ultimately, whether Lee Kuan Yew was a dictator or not depends on how one defines the term. Some would argue that his authoritarian tendencies and strong-arm tactics make him a dictator, while others would say that his actions were necessary for
    the greater good of Singapore."

    Could you ask it the question--what is the future of classical music recordings?
    Sure. Go ahead...

    https://chat.openai.com/chat

    Thank you. I couldn't sign up because I don't have a phone.

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