• Re: Rubinstein competition 2023

    From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 29 08:29:06 2023
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:16:23 AM UTC-7, HT wrote:

    Did anyone follow this year's competition? Who are the finalists?

    https://arims.org.il/

    This year Netanyahu's putsch
    has grabbed all the headlines.

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Wed Mar 29 08:53:59 2023
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:29:09 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:16:23 AM UTC-7, HT wrote:

    Did anyone follow this year's competition? Who are the finalists?
    https://arims.org.il/

    This year Netanyahu's putsch
    has grabbed all the headlines.


    I no longer watch the Rubinstein
    because of its jury controlled by
    the Vardi-Kaplinsky gang. They
    are the equivalent of the Likud
    in piano music.

    dk

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 29 08:16:21 2023
    Did anyone follow this year's competition? Who are the finalists?

    Henk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Wed Mar 29 09:30:49 2023
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:54:02 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:29:09 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:16:23 AM UTC-7, HT wrote:

    Did anyone follow this year's competition? Who are the finalists?
    https://arims.org.il/

    This year Netanyahu's putsch
    has grabbed all the headlines.

    I no longer watch the Rubinstein
    because of its jury controlled by
    the Vardi-Kaplinsky gang. They
    are the equivalent of the Likud
    in piano music.


    The algorithm for deciding the
    prize winners is simply this: 1)
    find a finalist who studied with
    Vardi, or at least took master
    classes with him; 2) find a
    finalist who studied with
    Kaplinsky; 3) even better if
    they are the same person(s);
    4) distribute the prizes among
    them.

    dk

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  • From HT@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 29 11:50:30 2023
    Op woensdag 29 maart 2023 om 18:30:52 UTC+2 schreef Dan Koren:

    The algorithm for deciding the
    prize winners is simply this: 1)
    find a finalist who studied with
    Vardi, or at least took master
    classes with him; 2) find a
    finalist who studied with
    Kaplinsky; 3) even better if
    they are the same person(s);
    4) distribute the prizes among
    them.

    Vardi had a few excellent students. I don't know about Kaplinsky. In fact, I only know about her that she has connections with Julliard, believes that Giltburg is overrated (I agree) and that TD (RIP) hated her.

    BTW, I saw somewhere the names of the finalists. All completely unknown to me, perhaps except for what, I believe, is a young Canadian called Kevin Chen. The finalists play Tchaikovsky, Liszt, Prokofiev #3 and Bartok #2. Only the last one is something to
    look forward to - in the right hands, and I don't know if a certain Ferro is the one with the right hands.

    Henk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 29 12:38:48 2023
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 11:50:33 AM UTC-7, HT wrote:
    Op woensdag 29 maart 2023 om 18:30:52 UTC+2 schreef Dan Koren:
    The algorithm for deciding the
    prize winners is simply this: 1)
    find a finalist who studied with
    Vardi, or at least took master
    classes with him; 2) find a
    finalist who studied with
    Kaplinsky; 3) even better if
    they are the same person(s);
    4) distribute the prizes among
    them

    Vardi had a few excellent students.

    He is also the head of the piano
    mafia in Israel.

    I don't know about Kaplinsky. In fact,

    She is a gasbag.

    I only know about her that she has connections
    with Julliard, believes that Giltburg is overrated
    (I agree) and that TD (RIP) hated her.

    She teaches (or has taught) at Juilliard.
    Giltburg is a sewing machine, and not a
    particularly good one.

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Wed Mar 29 16:12:01 2023
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 9:30:52 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:54:02 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:29:09 AM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 8:16:23 AM UTC-7, HT wrote:

    Did anyone follow this year's competition? Who are the finalists?
    https://arims.org.il/

    This year Netanyahu's putsch
    has grabbed all the headlines.

    I no longer watch the Rubinstein
    because of its jury controlled by
    the Vardi-Kaplinsky gang. They
    are the equivalent of the Likud
    in piano music.

    The algorithm for deciding the
    prize winners is simply this: 1)
    find a finalist who studied with
    Vardi, or at least took master
    classes with him; 2) find a
    finalist who studied with
    Kaplinsky; 3) even better if
    they are the same person(s);
    4) distribute the prizes among
    them.

    One more thought comes to mind:
    as far as one remembers, in most
    of the Rubinstein competitions the
    top prize was awarded to someone
    who did not deserve it according to
    public opinion. Women and Asian
    competitors were often overlooked,
    even when they were clearly better
    than the others: Etsuko Terada, Yeol
    Eum Son, Diana Kacso, Ching Yun Hu
    and Khatia Buniatishvili were thought
    by the public at the time to have
    performed better than the higher
    prize winners.

    In 1974, the jury surprised everyone
    by eliminating Christian Blackshaw
    from the finals, while promoting
    Emanuel Axe and awarding him
    the first prize, over Eugene Indjic
    and Janina Fialkowska. Ruby was
    in the jury that years, however there
    wara rampant rumors he was already
    disconnected from the world around
    him and the actual decisions were
    made by Mme Rubinstein.

    In 1977, Gerhard Oppitz won over
    Diana Kacso and Etsuko Terada,
    even though he played like a
    brick. The scuttlebutt was this
    was a politically motivated
    decision because the state
    needed or wanted something
    from Germany. No one could
    have imagied he would win
    the gold after playing like a
    brick in the finals.

    In 1980, Gregory Allen won over
    Ian Hobson and Geoffrey Tozer.
    Has anyone heard of him since?

    In 1983, Jeffrey Turd Kahane
    won the gold over Fei Ping Hsu
    and Hung-Kuan Chen in a classic
    display of anti-Asian prejudice.

    I skipped the 1986 through 2001
    competitions. In 2005 Gavrylyuk
    and Levit won gold and silver and
    Yeol Eum Son only got the bronze,
    even though it was plainly obvious
    she was the best,

    No first prize was awarded in 2008,
    Roman Rabinovich and Ching-Yun Hu
    tied for second and Buniatishvili "won"
    the bronze. CYH is a far better pianist
    than Roman Rabinovich was, is, or
    will ever be.

    In 2014, Seong-Jin Cho placed 3rd
    "behind" Steven Lin and Antonii
    Baryshevskyi.

    In 2017, Sara Daneshpour was
    awarded 3rd prize, while Szymon
    Nehring and Daniel Ciobanu were
    awarded first and second prizes.

    There are plenty of recordings
    available on YT for everyone to
    be able to verify my assessments.

    The pattern that emerges from all
    the above is that the Rubinstein
    tends to prefer traditional sewing
    machines and overvalues men
    over women and whites over
    Asians.

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Wed Mar 29 18:13:05 2023
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 4:12:04 PM UTC-7, Dan Koren wrote:

    In 1977, Gerhard Oppitz won over
    Diana Kacso and Etsuko Terada,
    even though he played like a
    brick. The scuttlebutt was this
    was a politically motivated
    decision because the state
    needed or wanted something
    from Germany. No one could
    have imagied he would win
    the gold after playing like a
    brick in the finals.


    No one had in fact imagined at
    the time that Oppitz would even
    make it to the finals. Diana Kacso
    was by the far the best in 1977. I
    blame it on Vardi.

    dk

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  • From Owen Hartnett@21:1/5 to Dan Koren on Wed Mar 29 22:11:20 2023
    On 2023-03-29 19:38:48 +0000, Dan Koren said:

    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 11:50:33 AM UTC-7, HT wrote:
    Op woensdag 29 maart 2023 om 18:30:52 UTC+2 schreef Dan Koren:
    The algorithm for deciding the> > prize winners is simply this: 1)> >
    find a finalist who studied with> > Vardi, or at least took master> >
    classes with him; 2) find a> > finalist who studied with> > Kaplinsky;
    3) even better if> > they are the same person(s);> > 4) distribute the
    prizes among> > them

    Vardi had a few excellent students.

    He is also the head of the pianomafia in Israel.
    I don't know about Kaplinsky. In fact,
    She is a gasbag.

    I only know about her that she has connections> with Julliard, believes
    that Giltburg is overrated> (I agree) and that TD (RIP) hated her.
    She teaches (or has taught) at Juilliard.Giltburg is a sewing machine,
    and not aparticularly good one.
    dk

    Would you call a particularly good sewing machine a Singer?

    -Owen

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 29 19:37:41 2023
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 11:50:33 AM UTC-7, HT wrote:
    Op woensdag 29 maart 2023 om 18:30:52 UTC+2 schreef Dan Koren:

    The algorithm for deciding the
    prize winners is simply this: 1)
    find a finalist who studied with
    Vardi, or at least took master
    classes with him; 2) find a
    finalist who studied with
    Kaplinsky; 3) even better if
    they are the same person(s);
    4) distribute the prizes among
    them.

    Vardi had a few excellent students.

    Yes indeed, however it is not clear if
    he contributed anything to their skills.
    Vardi is very conservative musically.
    He is a "Yekke". ;-)

    I don't know about Kaplinsky. In fact, I
    only know about her that she has
    connections with Julliard, believes

    "Veda" has chaired Juilliard's piano
    department since 1997. She is the
    ultimate insider, il capo di tutti capi.

    that Giltburg is overrated (I agree)
    and that TD (RIP) hated her.

    Obviously, she knows more about
    piano performance than TD ever
    did.

    BTW, I saw somewhere the names of
    the finalists. All completely unknown
    to me, perhaps except for what, I believe,
    is a young Canadian called Kevin Chen.
    The finalists play Tchaikovsky, Liszt,
    Prokofiev #3 and Bartok #2. Only the
    last one is something to look forward
    to - in the right hands, and I don't know
    if a certain Ferro is the one with the right
    hands.

    I haven't had time to listen to the earlier
    stage recitals, which are all available now
    on YT. From the finalists, Kevin Chen, Elio
    Cecina and Yukine Kuroki have bagged a
    number of first prizes in second tier piano
    rodeos. They would probably finish ahead
    of the others if the Rubinstein were free of
    politics. With Arik and Veda in the jury it is
    impossible to tell.

    dk

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  • From Dan Koren@21:1/5 to Owen Hartnett on Wed Mar 29 19:23:15 2023
    On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:11:34 PM UTC-7, Owen Hartnett wrote:

    Would you call a particularly
    good sewing machine a Singer?

    No. I would call it a Brother.

    dk

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