https://www.bbc.com/news/64919126

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On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 2:08:22 PM UTC+11, Dan Koren wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/64919126

I often wonder how these statistics are collected, especially for items from Instagram and fitness pods. Are they getting stats from eClassical and Presto for downloads? They can tell us how many CDs and vinyl records are being sold in the US, but can
they really determine which downloads or streamings are being sold to Americans from international sources? I'm sceptical.

Meanwhile, I love the sales pitch:

"Last year's vinyl record sales demonstrate that vinyl is "cementing its role as a fixture of the modern music marketplace," RIAA Chairman and CEO Mitch Glazier said in a post on Medium."Music lovers clearly can't get enough of the high-quality sound and
tangible connection to artists vinyl delivers," Glazier said, "and labels have squarely met that demand with a steady stream of exclusives, special reissues, and beautifully crafted packages and discs.""

Sounds a bit like the coffee table book market, except for the promise of a tangible connection with Katy Perry.

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

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A rather eye-opening statistic of US sales of vinyl at 41 million vs. 33 million
for CDs. These are presumably units.

A point that has been raised before concerns the definition of a unit.
For example, does the big Ormandy box count as 1 unit or 120 units?

Sales of popular music in the US outsells classical by perhaps 10:1,
though I can’t cite any hard numbers on this. So, I’m guessing that’s what’s driving the vinyl resurgence. Record Store Day is a really big
deal here and it’s virtually all Rock.

The BBC report doesn’t stratify the numbers according to genre.
I wish they had reported that, if the industry tracks that sort of detail.


Jerry


On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:08:22 PM UTC-4, Dan Koren wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/64919126

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On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 05:35:37 -0700, Andrew Clarke wrote:

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 2:08:22???PM UTC+11, Dan Koren wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/64919126

I often wonder how these statistics are collected, especially for items from Instagram and fitness pods. Are they getting stats from eClassical and Presto for downloads? They can tell us how many CDs and vinyl records are being sold in the US, but can

they really determine which downloads or streamings are being sold to Americans from international sources? I'm sceptical.

Skepticism is required of BBC readers. I suspect they are
only counting sales by the three record companies: Universal,
Warner and Sony.

Meanwhile, I love the sales pitch:

"Last year's vinyl record sales demonstrate that vinyl is "cementing its role as a fixture of the modern music marketplace," RIAA Chairman and CEO Mitch Glazier said in a post on Medium."Music lovers clearly can't get enough of the high-quality sound

and tangible connection to artists vinyl delivers," Glazier said, "and labels have squarely met that demand with a steady stream of exclusives, special reissues, and beautifully crafted packages and discs.""

Sounds a bit like the coffee table book market, except for the promise of a tangible connection with Katy Perry.

Sounds like the BBC is doing press-release journalism.

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On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:13:56 PM UTC+11, Pluted Pup wrote:

On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 05:35:37 -0700, Andrew Clarke wrote:

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 2:08:22???PM UTC+11, Dan Koren wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/64919126

I often wonder how these statistics are collected, especially for items from Instagram and fitness pods. Are they getting stats from eClassical and Presto for downloads? They can tell us how many CDs and vinyl records are being sold in the US, but

can they really determine which downloads or streamings are being sold to Americans from international sources? I'm sceptical.

Skepticism is required of BBC readers. I suspect they are
only counting sales by the three record companies: Universal,
Warner and Sony.

Meanwhile, I love the sales pitch:

"Last year's vinyl record sales demonstrate that vinyl is "cementing its role as a fixture of the modern music marketplace," RIAA Chairman and CEO Mitch Glazier said in a post on Medium."Music lovers clearly can't get enough of the high-quality sound

and tangible connection to artists vinyl delivers," Glazier said, "and labels have squarely met that demand with a steady stream of exclusives, special reissues, and beautifully crafted packages and discs.""

Sounds a bit like the coffee table book market, except for the promise of a tangible connection with Katy Perry.

Sounds like the BBC is doing press-release journalism.

I'm afraid your jeremiad about the state of British journalism is misplaced in this instance. The BBC is quoting a report from the Recording Industry Association of America and the comment is from an American spokesman called Mitch, like the guy who didn'
t sign The Beatles in the 1960s because he thought guitar bands were on the way out.

Andrew Clarke
Canberra

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It doesn't matter if the absolute numbers are true (and in what prior year would the statistics have been better?. The trends are what is telling. The bottom line is that the market for physical media is going to become ever more niche.

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On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:13:56 AM UTC-7, Andrew Clarke wrote:

On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:13:56 PM UTC+11, Pluted Pup wrote:

On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 05:35:37 -0700, Andrew Clarke wrote:

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 2:08:22???PM UTC+11, Dan Koren wrote:

https://www.bbc.com/news/64919126

I often wonder how these statistics are collected, especially for items from Instagram and fitness pods. Are they getting stats from eClassical and Presto for downloads? They can tell us how many CDs and vinyl records are being sold in the US, but

can they really determine which downloads or streamings are being sold to Americans from international sources? I'm sceptical.

Skepticism is required of BBC readers. I suspect they are
only counting sales by the three record companies: Universal,
Warner and Sony.

Meanwhile, I love the sales pitch:

"Last year's vinyl record sales demonstrate that vinyl is "cementing its role as a fixture of the modern music marketplace," RIAA Chairman and CEO Mitch Glazier said in a post on Medium."Music lovers clearly can't get enough of the high-quality

sound and tangible connection to artists vinyl delivers," Glazier said, "and labels have squarely met that demand with a steady stream of exclusives, special reissues, and beautifully crafted packages and discs.""

Sounds a bit like the coffee table book market, except for the promise of a tangible connection with Katy Perry.

Sounds like the BBC is doing press-release journalism.

I'm afraid your jeremiad about the state of British journalism is misplaced in this instance. The BBC is quoting a report from the Recording Industry Association of America and the comment is from an American spokesman called Mitch, like the guy who

didn't sign The Beatles in the 1960s because he thought guitar bands were on the way out.


You don't expect Pluted to be able to
read or to connect the dots, or do you?

Even after we thought we hit bottom
with Herman and Melmoth, Pluted
redefines imbecility.

dk

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